+cache_test_dummies Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I've always been fascinated by maps. I enjoy looking at them, and I like working with them, especially when I am visiting an unfamiliar area. I always like to know where I am with respect to the roads, rivers, mountains and interesting sites around me. One of the reasons I enjoy caching is that it involves the use of maps. I am curious as to whether an interest and enjoyment of cartography is a general trait of other cachers. I'd also be interested to hear if there are those who don't like working with maps, but still enjoy caching. Quote Link to comment
+clearpath Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I love maps, I really do ... Seriously, I could sit and looks at maps for hours and not get tired of it. To me, armchair traveling is awesome and helps fuel the fire for real traveling adventures. Quote Link to comment
+CompuCash Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 and I thought I was all alone! Glad to see there are at least 3 of us. Went on a cruise and ended up buying a map and a GPS so I would know where I was. Was really great! Quote Link to comment
+Team Neos Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Make that at least four. I love maps. I like old ones and new ones, hand-drawn ones, maps in color and maps drawn in pencil. I have my science kids draws maps of everything I can think of and try to get them to learn to read maps of every kind. I love maps. Way back in the 70s, I took on of those standardized tests that they were so fond of, and one of my teachers told me that I was the first person in our school to get a perfect score on the mapping section. The testing company must have questioned my results, because I had to take that section over again, with three adults watching me do it. I scored perfectly again! I couldn't understand how anyone could not score prefectly---I mean all you did was look at the map and answer the question! OK, now that I am a teacher, I understand that some people can't just look at it and "see" the answer, but it was hard for me to understand way back when. Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I couldn't live without maps. I can get as immersed in a map as I can most novels. They're informative, interesting and asthetic, and there are so many variations. I have a collection of several hundred; they are as simple as trail maps and as complex as topos, aeronautical and weather charts. I especially like the National Geographic series of maps. While traveling, I usually have a map on my lap and moniter it constantly. I have even been known to drool on a map! And, often, I dream about what life was like before maps. I reckon, in an earlier life, I might have been a cartographer! Quote Link to comment
+NoLemon Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Another map lover here. As long as I can remember I've loved them and been able to read them. I'm a sucker for old maps at antique stores. I really don't get why so many people seem to be map challenged. As a previous poster said, it is right there in multiple colors on the paper. Quote Link to comment
+Search1128 Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Yes. I like maps... Back in college my roomate and I went to the old thrift store and bought a bunch of maps from the national geographics on the shelves for like 10 cents each. We searched from the early 70's to present (which was then the early 90's). Over the span of those 20 years of mags on the shelf we ended up having copies of maps to complete the whole globe. We took the maps home and posted them on the walls of our room in such a way that we were "inside" the globe. It was pretty cool. We also filled in the gaps with space maps which we painted with spots of glow in the dark paint. At night we left earth and floated through space! Yes. I like maps..... Quote Link to comment
+Stunod Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I like maps I like them a lot Quote Link to comment
ozarkray Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I just saw this story and thought it would be a good thing to share. Hope it's not too long. How many of you think that this would be the perfect job? Ray Los Angeles TimesCOLUMN ONE They're All Over the Map The Auto Club's intrepid cartographers traverse the rural Southwest cataloging the uncharted features of a changing landscape. By John O'Dell Times Staff Writer October 20, 2004 VIRGIN MOUNTAINS, Ariz. — Shane Henry steered his truck along a dusty road, emerging from a steep, cool pine forest and dead-ending on the edge of a precipice. The uncharted spot provided a breathtaking, 30-mile-wide panoramic view of the Virgin River Gorge, stretching northeast into Utah. For Henry, a field cartographer for the Automobile Club of Southern California, it was a great day of discovery. After finding the overlook, he spotted ruins of a forgotten century-old cattle ranch near a pair of freshwater springs. Between overlook and ruins, he had also found 10 miles of a drivable dirt road. None are on the Auto Club's current "Indian Country" road map, but all his finds will be on a new version due out in two years. Despite the popularity of Global Positioning System navigation and earth-blanketing satellite photography, there are still places few have seen and roads few have traveled. Henry and his senior road-mapping colleague, John Skinner, are helping to find them. The duo of Skinner and Henry doesn't have the same poetic ring as Lewis and Clark. But 200 years after the famous explorers began their mapping trip through the American West, Skinner and Henry are doing much the same work, traveling the rugged backcountry of the Southwest, looking for something new. The two explorers are a rarity in the modern world of mapmaking. Rand McNally Co. and the various AAA groups are the primary publishers of U.S. road maps. Most full-time field researchers work on roadways in urban and suburban areas. Skinner and Henry "are probably the only ones in the U.S. doing what they do" with backcountry mapping, says Bill Scharf, head of the Auto Club's cartography division. The Los Angeles-based club publishes 90 different maps and distributes 7 million road maps annually. It tries to update them every other year. Every dirt road and trail shown on them will eventually be driven and rated by the Auto Club's field cartographers. But they rarely work together. "There's too much work to do to team up," Skinner says. They spend 10 months a year on the road, racking up about 60,000 miles each in four-wheel-drive trucks. The Auto Club provides the trucks, which are adorned with the club's logo and a banner: "Map Unit." Their territory is vast. Skinner and Henry cover the Mojave Desert, the Sierra Nevada, rural regions of 13 Southern California counties and all of Baja California. They also map the Four Corners area — a 130,000-square-mile region surrounding the point where Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Utah all touch — which is included in the club's celebrated Indian Country map. That map is a fixture in tourists' cars and ranchers' pickups alike. Its accuracy is why "everyone around here uses it," says Ed Chamberlin, curator of the Hubbell Trading Post National Historic Site museum on the Navajo Reservation in Ganado, Ariz. Novelist Tony Hillerman, whose mysteries featuring Navajo Tribal Police Lt. Joe Leaphorn have brought the Four Corners region alive for millions of readers, has also made the map a key part of his fictional cop's crime-fighting arsenal. Henry, 42, a former actor, has been on the job for three years; Skinner, 59, is a trained geographer who has been riding trail for the Auto Club for 22 years. Skinner quit in the '90s and moved to Arizona for three years in pursuit of a romance that ultimately failed. When the heartbreak healed, he asked for his old job back and hit the road again. "This job is not good for relationships," says Skinner, who has been engaged three times but has never married. Skinner and Henry work in trucks loaded with GPS navigation systems and highly detailed federal topographical maps to trace their tracks. Backseats and cargo areas are filled with piles of extra maps, cellphones, tents and food. They carry jacks, flares, survival kits, tire pumps, extra fuel lines, transmission oil and fan belts. As they drive, Skinner and Henry continually check special odometers, accurate to within one-thousandth of a mile, to verify that the distances already listed on maps are precise. They also rate road conditions to ensure that routes haven't been washed out by flash floods or altered by construction. Their discoveries may include stone quarries, mines, washes, overlooks, abandoned towns and a dizzying variety of unpaved roads. Dirt roads on AAA maps are rated from graded and gravel-topped thoroughfares to badly eroded and rutted tracks best suited for four-wheel-drive enthusiasts. "We want to make sure that if a mom in her Volvo decides to take one of these roads, she'll be able to make it," Henry says. On the job, Skinner and Henry usually sleep in motels, not tents. Still, notes Denis Cosgrove, a cultural geography professor at UCLA, the two are throwbacks who resemble "the early topographers, trekking out into inaccessible places and trying to reduce a part of the world to a page on a map." The job has its perils. Skinner and Henry have had encounters with mountain lions and rattlesnakes. And they give wide berth to desert compounds littered with the glass vials and metal cooking pots that mark the illegal drug-making operations of modern outlaws. The mapmakers say their work requires a big helping of self-confidence. Henry was on a rough dirt road in the mountains northwest of Lake Powell in Utah when he saw the road ahead disappearing between some rocks. Usually he would get out and walk the route to see where it went before proceeding, but it was late and he was tired, so he just drove on. As Henry passed the curve it turned into a narrow, terrifying stretch made up of loose rock rubble with a 200-foot drop on one side. He kept going, in part because an Auto Club map indicated that the road led across the mountain summit. But about 200 yards from the top he found himself trapped. The road's loose rock had turned into a series of 18-inch-high granite ledges. "Those steps were just a little too high for my truck tires to roll over," Henry says. He couldn't make a U-turn because the road was too narrow. One option was to back downhill, but he faced a mile-long path of scree with the long drop on one side. So he decided to keep going up. He exited the truck very carefully, so he wouldn't slip off the precipice, then gathered rocks to build a little ramp so he could drive over the step. Then every 30 feet or so he stopped because of another granite step and had to build a new ramp. It took Henry four hours to drive 200 yards. "This is a good example of why we drive all these roads," he says. On the older map it showed as a rough but usable dirt road across the summit. "But it had deteriorated so badly it was impassable for most people, so I took it out" for the new map, he says. Skinner and Henry can trace their jobs back to 1905, when AAA published its first road map and helped pioneer the industry at a time when motorists were few and marked roads fewer. In those days, maps were basically logbooks written to describe trips with descriptions of key geographic spots, gas stations, historic buildings, river bends, anything to guide drivers. Later, auto clubs and other promoters invented names for roads and posted road signs for travelers to follow. But there was no uniformity. The same road could be called one name by a city, another by a real estate developer who had published his own map and something else by a local travel and touring club. It wasn't until 1916, when Rand McNally started its own route numbering system, that travelers heading south from Boston to Florida could follow a route that retained the same name from state to state — as long as they used Rand McNally maps. Finally, in 1924, the federal government adopted a uniform numbering system so that major travel routes would retain their identities across the country. Both Skinner and Henry took circuitous routes to land their current jobs. Skinner was a ship navigator in the Navy, then earned a degree in geography from Cal State Fresno. He worked four years for a local AAA office as a tourist counselor, offering maps and advice on trips. When a job opened up as a field cartographer in 1979, he took it. Henry grew up in rural Oregon and earned a master of fine arts degree in classical theater at the University of Alabama. He spent 15 years traveling the country as an actor and dancer in regional theaters. He met Skinner by chance when Skinner was on a mapping trip in Los Padres National Forest and was fixing a flat tire. Henry was out hiking and struck up a conversation. Skinner told him about an opening for another map researcher. A typical day of mapping covers 30 to 50 miles of dirt roads. On trips to Baja California and Indian Country, Skinner and Henry often travel for three weeks at time. But the Auto Club requires them to take off one day in seven. "It can be a real pain when you are out in the middle of nowhere, and the only thing you can do with your day off is sit around a lonely motel or campsite," Henry says. Although he and Skinner meet plenty of storekeepers, restaurant workers and travelers in their work, their return visits are so far apart that friendships rarely form. "You do have to like to work by yourself," Henry says. Yet of the 10 field cartographers the Southern California club has hired in the last 35 years, only one has quit for good to pursue a more normal lifestyle. That was Dan Goodwin, now a 44-year-old environmental health and safety manager for a manufacturer in Pasadena. In 1986, with a newly minted geography degree from UC Santa Barbara, Goodwin thought the job would be perfect, but eventually the loneliness got to him. "I found myself wishing that I had someone with me on those road trips to share it with," he says. Goodwin quit in 1989. The club prides itself on the accuracy of its maps, but errors do occur. Sometimes a field researcher fails to properly record the distance between road junctions, or omits a creek or gives a bad road a better rating than it deserves. "Every once in a while we'll get a call or a letter from someone who took a car or a Winnebago too far down a road and got stuck or found that the road was a lot nastier than the map suggested," says Jim Kendall, the local Auto Club's map research chief. So when Skinner or Henry makes a rare appearance at the club's Costa Mesa office, he is often handed a pile of complaints to check out before the next map is printed. Sometimes the cartographers find the mistakes on their own. On a trip near Capitol Reef National Park in southern Utah last year, Henry drove across a little creek and stopped for lunch. Then a sudden thunderstorm hit and dumped enough water to swell the creek into a torrent. A creek that had been 6 inches deep was now 3 feet deep, and it would have flooded Henry's engine had he tried to drive back. But his Auto Club map showed he was near a dirt road leading to a highway, so he took it. Unfortunately, the map failed to show that the road crossed the same creek again before reaching the highway. When he arrived at the second crossing, the water was deep and running fast. But Henry carries a pair of 6-foot boards in his pickup for just such emergencies, and he spent several hours piling up rocks so he could lay the boards over them as a makeshift bridge. After driving across, Henry says, "I saw a homemade sign someone had put up that said, 'Creek may rise without warning.' " That second crossing is now on the Auto Club's Indian Country map. Copyright 2004 Los Angeles Times Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 One of the reasons I enjoy caching is that it involves the use of maps. I am curious as to whether an interest and enjoyment of cartography is a general trait of other cachers. I love reading maps. I'll sit down and read them the way I'd read a book. I'm as likely to take a trail map to the head as I am to bring the sports page. Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Please tell me you mean the trail head! Quote Link to comment
+shawhh Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 another map lover here! a good topo is just as interesting as a novel. imagination taking you up and over that saddle, plotting a route to that peak, seeing what that drainage looks like based on the topography and elevation. ah, yes, many an hour spent poring over maps. excellent entertainment. -harry Quote Link to comment
+CompuCash Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 (edited) Please tell me you mean the trail head! the septic tank is worried about where he reads the map? Edited October 22, 2004 by CompuCash Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Please tell me you mean the trail head! Now why would I bring the sports page to a trail head? Quote Link to comment
+Allen_L Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 (edited) Now why would I bring the sports page to a trail head? To read? or maybe to use just behind the first tree? Back on subject, I like maps as well, I have good many paper ones, and have been buying mapping software long before there was geocaching. I got my GPS pre-geocaching to help me make maps of where I hiked. Edited October 22, 2004 by AllenLacy Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Maps? we don't need no stinkin' maps! Maps are for girly-men. Columbus didn't have no stinkin' map did he? And another thing: We won't ask for directions, either! As long as we can get out of the woods within three days, we're OK. Usually if you just follow a crik downstream, you'll get SOMEWHERE! NO matter how fur back in the swamp we get, there's usually a beer can lying around somewhere you can use to boil water in. And as long as you got a knife, there's plenty of critters around to eat. So what good's a map gonna do? Besides, I never saw a map that had a picture of ME stuck on it! That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. Quote Link to comment
+JoesBar Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I have been looking at maps since I was a kid. (And I'm still lost. ) But seriously, I enjoy reading maps and learning what they have to tell. Quote Link to comment
+Dr Bombay and Lulu Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 And I thought I was the only one........................... Arm chair traveling is my thing.. Quote Link to comment
+Corp Of Discovery Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I think I've got more than a few atlases of various types around the house (25 or so that I can find in just a couple of minutes), not to mention a box or two of fold up maps (a LOT of them National Geographic ones). Does that answer your question? Quote Link to comment
+Rogue_monkey Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 maps maps and more maps, I have a map of pretty much everywhere i've gone. I can sit around with a map for hours, yup it would bore some people but I can do it. Yes i do love maps too, ah feels much better to come out about that. Quote Link to comment
Tahosa and Sons Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Love maps and even have a collection of maps, some which are old and worth some $$$'s Wouldnt go in the woods naked or without a map. Quote Link to comment
+Alan2 Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I like maps and mazes. Wonder if they're related? Quote Link to comment
Prairie Jeepin Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 (edited) Another map aficionado here In particular I enjoy comparing old maps of an area to current maps. This is a great to way to discover lost places and forgotten landmarks. It is a terrific way to learn and feel history. And then take that knowledge into the outdoors and see in person what the map has been telling you. I have loved maps for as long as I can remember, and have had numerous collections of them over the years. I can sit and stare at them for hours imagining trips and explorations. Looking for potential Jeep trails is an obsession. In fact, an ongoing project of mine is much the same as the Map Unit AAA guys -- I take assorted maps and drive around looking for unmarked roads/trails/tracks. Sometimes road allowances that are shown as unimproved or impassable, are in fact little jewels for jeep exploration. My ex used to get annoyed at my ability to immerse myself in my maps and history books thereby making her seem nonexistant "My kingdom is a Map" PJ Edited October 23, 2004 by Prairie Jeepin Quote Link to comment
MMACH 5 Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I mentioned this in another thread about demographics... I’ve loved maps ever since third grade. We had a “Map Unit” in which we were supposed to draw a map of our route to and from school. I went nuts and mapped the entire west side of Plano, TX, to scale. Mind you Plano was a much smaller than it is today. Ever since, I’ve been hooked on knowing where this and that would fall on a map. Every season, I draw up maps of all the soccer fields where our team will play, complete with "zoom" in areas around the fields to show small streets around the parking lots. I can sit and stare for hours at road maps, trail maps, topo maps, even maps of amusement parks. They are fascinating and beautiful. Quote Link to comment
+Mosaica Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I'm a super map-geek-grrl. My dream house has a large project room, and the walls are made of cork-board, so I can put up all my topo maps, and then mark places that I've been & places that I'd like to go with little pins. Yum. I spent some time researching different folding methods for topo maps, and I found a great method which I apply to each new topo map I get, and I also water-proof all my paper topo maps with Map-Seal. I'm told that some places sell topo maps which are printed on that synthetic waterproof paper, with special inks, but I haven't had a chance to try them. ../Mosaica Quote Link to comment
rebapac Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I'm astonished. I had no idea there were so many people who liked maps for the same reasons I do. My love of maps got started late in life, I was a Boy Scout when learned to read and use them. I think I was 12 years old. I like to know where things and places are in relation to other things and places. Maps tell me that and it gives me a feeling of community and that I'm part of it all. I like maps of historical battles, from Roman conquests to all the conflicts that have followed. Maps and charts of the early explorers discovering new worlds take me along with the team on the same journey. Map reading is a skill I could not do without. I wouldn't be able to move around without them. I have a sizable collection and they take me everywhere. Quote Link to comment
+Stuey Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I've always been fascinated by maps. I am curious as to whether an interest and enjoyment of cartography is a general trait of other cachers. Paper maps, no.... Digital maps, yep, love 'em! Quote Link to comment
Cholo Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Remember the Arlo and Janis newspaper comics where Janis "catches" Arlo reading maps? It worries her and she doesn't understand. We understand. Quote Link to comment
+EWDaron10 Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 (edited) Paper maps, no.... Digital maps, yep, love 'em! I like both!! I use DeLorme's Street Atlas to map the routes I plan to drive when I go on vacation. I start several months in advance so that I can check out the sights that will be along my route in their database. I then print the maps for my trip and also upload it all to my PDA to use with a connected GPSr. While I'm travelling I stop at the first visitor center that I come to as I enter each state and get a copy of their official highway map. I have found some interesting reading on these over the years. Presently I have a collection of these maps covering most of the U.S. I also have NPS maps of the National Parks that I have visited. Edited October 24, 2004 by ErnieD1125 Quote Link to comment
+kph100 Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 My wofe thinks im mad for keep buying maps, but they are great arent they... so much information. Currently buying up all Ordnance survey maps at 1;50000 scale to cover whole of country. Thats UK by the way .... so bit easier that USA Yep part of attraction of caching is the map planning to work out where to start the walk etc..... Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Huh! I never would have thunk it. I could take'em or leave'em. A map is only a tool to get me where I'm going if I don't already know. Here's a disturbing thought, maybe I'm the wierd one! Quote Link to comment
+okpondlady/N5PNE Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 My father was always facinated with maps. Before his illnesses when he could get around and travel he ALWAYS had book Atlas's. After he was in the nursing home, we papered his walls with framed pictures of maps. He loved them. Would study them for hours. I think alot of it came from him being injured in Korea and knowing where he was when he was injured and then waking up in a totally different place. In order for him to "place" himself he mapped. He had only been told where he had been because he was in a coma until he was back in Tokyo. For a poor boy from Checotah who would have probably ended up being a farmer like his daddy, he traveled a long ways off. Karen Quote Link to comment
+LSUMonica Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 (edited) Lets see, I like -- Maps - I normally buy or get one free for every state and major city I visit. I recently cleaned out my maps when I got a new car but still have at least 6 state maps and 3 city maps in the car and moved the rest inside. History - My family would refuse to stop at another historical marker on vacation after a while. Cemetaries - I love looking at the gravestones and imagining the life of the person. Puzzles - I LOVE logic puzzles and have books on puzzles! Tech Toys -- what can I say, I am a girl geek, I own 2 desktop PCs, 2 Laptops, 2 PDAs, 2 zip drives, a cross tablet, AND 2 GPSrs. Getting "Lost" - I wonder where this road leads... Outdoors - I was a pre-med/zoology major in college and even took herpetology (that snakes, salamanders and frogs) and does anyone wonder why I like geocaching so much!!! Edited October 27, 2004 by LSUMonica Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 I hate maps, they cost me a bundle. We have geologic maps that show mineral deposits, fault lines, strata layers, etc. Then we have topos used to find old caves and mines. They help in locating ghost towns. Every time I spend much time studying the maps it ends up meaning we will be going somewhere to find something. There goes the money for gas, motels, food, fix-a-flat and so on. The most costly map we ever bought was a Magellan Platinum with Mapsend Topo. I always thought maps were a necessity and you couldn't have too many of them. They also help increase the waistline by sitting and studying them instead of going and doing! But we enjoy them just the same. John Quote Link to comment
+cache_us_if_you_can Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 I'm another map lover. I drive my wife nuts with my maps. I guess she seems to think a 5 drawer file cabinet stuffed full of maps is a bit much... Or maybe it's the fact that I'm always bringing home even more maps. And when I'm not bringing them home my dad is dropping them off for me. In fact, last week he dropped off 60-some USGS topo maps (dating from 1954 to 1988) that were my grandfathers. I'll spend hours looking over maps, looking at where I've been, where I want to go.... Before I know it another day off has passed with me going nowhere because I've spent the whole time reading the map and not moving. Quote Link to comment
koz Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 in previous threads, there have been attempts to glean what we all have in common: given other posts, clearly not religion, views on gun-control, or capitalism...not even being techno-geeks....but i think we've stumbled upon a common (albeit not universal) denominator: love of maps....i too thought i was the only one so obsessed! Quote Link to comment
+nfa Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 I love maps!!! Long before I found geocaching, I was into orienteering. I always have had maps on my walls, of local areas, the US, and the world. It's always been one of my favorite things about National Geographic (you know, the maps that fall out when you pick up the magazine). Even if I know a cache will be simple to find, I always visit topozone or one of the other map sites and peruse the surrounding area. I am so happy to now have topo maps of my part of the country loaded into my meridian. I also like Buxley's maps, but that's the topic of another thread. Thanks for the thread nfa-jamie Quote Link to comment
+Tzoid Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 I have been a map lover as long as I can remember. I have the world atlas lying in the sofa for easy access. Whenever someone mentions a place I haven't heard of before, I just have to locate it. :-) Quote Link to comment
+Alan2 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Ok, I don't mind few hits. I believe male cachers like maps more than female cachers. Quote Link to comment
Radman Forever Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 I have always loved maps, lets me know where I have cached across the state. Quote Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 For one birthday sometime during the Sullen Years (when I was around 14-17, I think), my mother gave me a present that actually caused me to forgo the standard teen reaction to any gift from a parent -- normally a grunt, a shrug, or an eyeroll. It was a big, giant world atlas. I was just delighted with it, and I actually became temporarily civil enough to express appreciation for it. I had my nose buried in that thing for hours. I still have it now, more than 25 years later -- it's out of date, but I still use it for reference pretty frequently. (I don't know whether this will skew Alan2's impression or not, but this post is from the female half of the hermit crabs.) Quote Link to comment
+Team Spike Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 (edited) I love maps too! Every time I go to look up one quick thing I am still looking at the map half an hour later. As someone else posted, when I hear of a new place in the news I have to go and look it up. Great for increasing knowledge of places. I have a collection of Victorian maps of various parts of England, USA and the world famed and hanging on the walls, including a map showing the distance to various places in England from "Hickss Hall" along horse and carriage routes. Groover Edited October 28, 2004 by Team Spike Quote Link to comment
Apollo Bob Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Oh yeah - love maps. Always have. My girlfriend teases me about it. One of the best parts of visiting a museum for me is getting the map at the information desk and plotting my route through the exhibits. Even marking with a pen the path so far. She thinks its a hoot because I get so excited. Can't explain it. Haven't really used maps much on my cache hunts, because I've primarily done urban ones where I know exactly where I am, but I do check the topo map link on each cache page - usually very accurate regarding cache placements... Quote Link to comment
+Sevateem Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 (edited) Does having 6 map programs on the computer and untold number of paper maps count as liking them? Edited October 30, 2004 by Sevateem Quote Link to comment
davwil Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 Hello, my name is Dave and I like maps. When I was a kid, and the family was on the road (to Boston, New York, Toronto, Niagara Falls etc.) I was the little eight year old in the right seat reading the ESSO road map. I always saved those National Geographic maps whenever they fell out of the center section. As a matter of fact I would always flip through the pages to see if a map would fall out and then grab it and let someone else read the magazine. Later on in life in the course of my work, I was visiting a logging camp (yes they still exist in New Brunswick) consisting of lots of those white construction trailers. Crew quarters, Office, Kitchen trailer and a MAP room!!!! Its walls were completely covered in NGS TOPO maps of the section they were working, When I went into the room everytinhg else just dissappeared and I was totally immersed in the huge maps... like I was flying over the landscape looking down at the rivers and forest. If someone hadn't called my name I think i might still be there (maybe I am). Years later I had gone through many changes (and GPS receivers). I was visiting my Dad when he spotted the Garmin that I habitually wear on my belt. He asked what it was and I told him about how I used it for hiking and driving and Geocaching..... You know what he said?????? "GOT ANY MAPS ON IT?" D. Quote Link to comment
eggman7360 Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 I can count myself in this group too. I use maps continuosly to a point of having most of the ones I need memorized! I still like to look at them alot. Quote Link to comment
+olbluesguy Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 I don't know what to say that hasn't been said here already. I thought I was the only one who would rather read a map than read a book. I once had a cabin up in the Mountains,and on the screened in porch I had put together six topo maps of the area that covered the whole wall. Hikers,and hunters who wondered off the trail and got lost often came upon the cabin.If I was there I could point them in the right direction using the map. If they came when I wasn't there they had a way to find their way on their own. I often found notes thanking me for putting it there. Quote Link to comment
solohiker Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 A GPS without mapping software is like a pen without paper. Quote Link to comment
+The Puzzler Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 A GPS without mapping software is like a pen without paper. I am forced to dissagree. Without a map maybe. But, although convenient, software is only one way of viewing a map, paper with a GPS is often better than software (bigger view, less weight, no batteries). Quote Link to comment
+Delta-S Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 All you map freaks (I'm one too) should check out the geocaching National Map Corps Forum Your map mania can have a higher purpose. Quote Link to comment
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