+GixxerUT Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 like "muggles"???? Why don't internet forum people use everyday terms like "onlookers", as they would if they were talking in real life with real life everyday people? Or do Geocachers talk that way when they meet in real life too? Quote Link to comment
Mushtang Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Or do Geocachers talk that way when they meet in real life too? Bingo Quote Link to comment
+zygote2k Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 why the geeky screen name? Quote Link to comment
[MTB]_Intrepid Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 We use geeky lingo? Why do you call an ultracool bike like a GSX-R a "Jixxer"??? Quote Link to comment
+Perrin Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 I have to say that the term "muggles" has been in use as every day cacher vocab in my area pretty much since I started. Which was over a year ago. I'm not sure why that has to be refered to as "geeky". True it was pretty much ripped off from Harry Potter, but calling Harry Potter geeky is very much going against the mainstream view at the moment. You can use other terms if you want, though. No one is forcing you to use it. So what other terms are you having a problem with? Quote Link to comment
+zygote2k Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 I would call Harry Potter a nerd. Quote Link to comment
+southdeltan Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 why the geeky screen name? Pot, meet kettle. sd Quote Link to comment
+Honest John & Suzies Jule Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I use it when running into strangers, while looking for a cache, I ask, Are you the Muggle's? Only a fellow Geocacher would then introduce themselves. It's a code word now! Like my geeky signature Quote Link to comment
+2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I thought we were ALL rather a geeky bunch, Cachers that is. Running around with a GPSr looking for something that someone left for us to find - McToys in Tupperware?? That is NOT GEEKY??? Shirley~ Quote Link to comment
Captain Chaoss Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Consider any other "sport", hobby, or lifestyle. You can probably come up with examples of unique terminology that is understood by those who enjoy that specific pastime. Full court press, hail mary, ringers, 18 wheeler, crotch rocket, Hog, rice burner... need I go on ? Why would Geocachers use a simplistic/childish term such as "Muggle" ? I think when you consider all the more advanced terminology that comes with it - Latitude, Longitude, confluence, signal dispersion, etc. - it kind of was natural to interject and adopt some less harsh jingo. After all, this is for fun isn't it ? I believe another thread on the subject of the use of the word "Muggle" stated that in the Potter books, a Muggle was someone unaware of the secret world hidden all around, the magic out of sight to their daily world. Kind of describes ( in a poetic way ) the relationship Geocaching holds. So, adopting the term Muggle makes sense, even if in a "geeky" way. After all, how many people, even if they DO find out Geocaching, think its geeky anyway to spend hundreds of dollars to run around finding Tupperware instead of sitting in front of the TV, watching others earn several million for playing a game ? I'll take the geeky terms, thanks. Quote Link to comment
+AuntieWeasel Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Why don't internet forum people use everyday terms like "onlookers", as they would if they were talking in real life with real life everyday people? Every human endeavor has its own jargon. But, honestly, how handy do you find the word "onlooker" talking in real life with real life everyday people? It seems a bit...stiff to me. "Ho, Mabel! Let us cease our petting in this orange grove, for yonder is an onlooker!" ....ehhhhh, I dunno. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Like Floppy Disk, Block, Monkey Wrench, and a bunch of other lingo is a step up? Quote Link to comment
+GixxerUT Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 why the geeky screen name? touche' lol I guess it's where people are willing to draw the line; as others have eluded, geocaching itself is pretty geeky. And us talking about it on the internet is another facet of geekiness. Quote Link to comment
+Two Geeks and a GPS Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I, personally, am also against the use of the term "muggle." I guess I am not ready to admit the extent of my geekiness! Quote Link to comment
+NightPilot Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 So, how much does the ho, Mabel, charge for petting? Is there an extra charge for onlookers, or for permitting them? Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Mabel is a NUMBERS Ho, and she enjoys a cache rich environment - with or without onlookers Quote Link to comment
+hukilaulau Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 My 9 year old has a way of "un-geeking" the lingo. She tells her friends she's going "Geocrashing." Today, as a couple of middle-aged women approaced us on the trail while we were looking for a cache, she whispered (loudly) "Look out, Muggers!" They looked startled, to say the least! Quote Link to comment
+fly46 Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 "Ho, Mabel! Let us cease our petting in this orange grove, for yonder is an onlooker!" Nothing needs to follow that. Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Didja notice it's usually the newbies that bring up this question and the seasoned folks only chime in on it? Quote Link to comment
+flask Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 daa- da. daaaa-da. daa-da, daa-da, dadadadadada.... Quote Link to comment
Spamiam Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I would call Harry Potter a nerd. Actually, Hermione's the nerd(ette). Harry's the rebellious type. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 like "muggles"???? Why don't internet forum people use everyday terms like "onlookers", as they would if they were talking in real life with real life everyday people? Or do Geocachers talk that way when they meet in real life too? C'mon who are you really, flask's sock puppet? We also say 'angst' in here a lot; well at least carleenp does. How often do you say that in everyday conversation? Quote Link to comment
+flask Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 my sockpuppets almost NEVER post in the forums. one of mine posted just to make a post (it's not really a secret who it is...) one of mine posted in order to ask a question anonymously. if I'D asked, it would have raised eyebrows, but under the sockpuppet it got answered and disappeared into oblivion. if i wanted to comment on the stupiditiy of the term "muggle" i could have derailed any other thread, thankyouverymuch. WHY the geeky lingo? WHY, you ask? helloooooo, have you looked in a mirror lately? have you ever been to a geocaching event? thar's geeks in them thar hills, and they're all walking around with GPSrs on their little belt clips. that explains the geekiness. now, if you'd like to discuss the other abonination and the addlepated sheeplings that use it, i'll give everyone else a moment to clear the room. i was just thinking this morning that i hadn't had a good "muggle" rant in a few days. if you'll excuse me, it's almost monday and as a special birthday gift i have to go kick some puppies. Quote Link to comment
+cachew nut Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I would call Harry Potter a nerd. geek ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gk) n. Slang A person regarded as foolish, inept, or clumsy. A person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept. nerd also nurd ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nûrd) n. Slang A foolish, inept, or unattractive person. A person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept. dork ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dôrk) n. Slang. A stupid, inept, or foolish person It would seem that the difference between geek and nerd is appearance and clumsiness, and Harry Potter isn't really unattractive. I'm not sure about his clumsiness. He's probably more of a dork then a geek or nerd, although that description probably doesn't fit well either. However, I always associated geekiness with computer knowledge, love of gadgets, and use of scientific terminology. Using the term muggle changes geocaching from being geeky to being dorky. Quote Link to comment
Spamiam Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 (edited) And some of us are pretty danged cute *and* smart, therefore quite comfortable with "geeky language". It's a gift. Edited January 10, 2005 by Spamiam Quote Link to comment
Vacman Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I believe that I am muggling this Marwelled topic right now.... Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 if you'll excuse me, it's almost monday and as a special birthday gift i have to go kick some puppies. Geeezus! ROFL! Quote Link to comment
Radman Forever Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 geocaching is for geeks, nerds and dorks! we stand united and proud! with our pocket calculators and thick-rimmed glasses, we will someday conquer the world! Quote Link to comment
+dunos Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 All groups of people have their own terms. It ties group members together, creating a common bond between them. Quote Link to comment
+GixxerUT Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 All groups of people have their own terms. It ties group members together, creating a common bond between them. you mean like Trekkies and Lan Partygoers? yup, there's definitely some psychology to belongingness and having identity within a defined group, and the lingo/jargon adds to the differentiation btw; DORK also has another whale of a meaning Quote Link to comment
+AtoZ Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I for one have NEVER bitten the head off of a chicken, a boomerrang yes but bitten no. So I am not a GEEK, though I playone in real life. No I am a nerd/hacker etc..... GEEK NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cheers Quote Link to comment
+Salvelinus Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I guess this activity can become geeky, But... If you go on a 6 hour adventurous hike to get one smilie face rather than spend the same amount of time getting 10 lamp post smilie faces, then you are definitely a "geomoron". Apply Within Salvelinus Quote Link to comment
+ibycus Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I find the ripped off Harry Potter terminology strangely appropriate. Onlooker to me just doesn't convey the same significance. Muggle makes refference specifically to those who aren't part of the group participating in the activity. Can you think of a non-geeky synonym that will be as widely understood that conveys the same message in as compressed a format? I can't. Quote Link to comment
+Two Geeks and a GPS Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Actually, Hermione's the nerd(ette). Hermione will be a real heartbreaker in a couple of years. Nerdette or not!!! Quote Link to comment
adampierson Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I'm not sure why that has to be refered to as "geeky". True it was pretty much ripped off from Harry Potter, but calling Harry Potter geeky is very much going against the mainstream view at the moment. Just a note about the term "muggle", although people may have adopted term from the Harry Potter series, J.K. Rowlings didn't create term. She had adopted it (like most of the other items her books) from other sources. Quote Link to comment
+Phone guy Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 What about gumf? Quote Link to comment
+Savoy 6 Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Synonym- bystander, viewer, member of the audience, observer, witness, watcher In my line of work we have rubber-neckers, the uh-oh squad, the oh-no squad,scanner land I'm no fan of Potter, but I do find if funny in regards to the unknowing C'mon, like others said, it's fun. What's the big deal Quote Link to comment
SICILIANS Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 As to Adopted Terminolgy, I'll draw the line at using any lingo from either the Teletubies or the Wiggles... Quote Link to comment
+ibycus Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Just a note about the term "muggle", although people may have adopted term from the Harry Potter series, J.K. Rowlings didn't create term. She had adopted it (like most of the other items her books) from other sources. You sure about that? I remember reading somewhere that someone was sueing her for stealing the term from their book, but I don't think she conceeded that she had. It always seemed like very natural terminology for me, an extention of being muddled up or something like that, hence it wouldn't surprise me if it was 'invented' multiple times. Quote Link to comment
+ibycus Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Synonym- bystander, viewer, member of the audience, observer, witness, watcher Like I said, I don't think those are synonyms. Muggle adds something to the idea of someone watching. They have to also be non-caching folks. Quote Link to comment
tholt4 Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 My wife thinks I'm a geek when "cashing". Quote Link to comment
+cache_test_dummies Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 My wife thinks I'm a geek when "cashing". MY wife thinks I'm a geek whether I'm caching or not. But I'm not, am I? Quote Link to comment
+GixxerUT Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 My wife thinks I'm a geek when "cashing". MY wife thinks I'm a geek whether I'm caching or not. But I'm not, am I? if you also listen to the Crash Test Dummies, it's certain mmmmm mmmm mmmm mmmm "once, there was a muggle........" Quote Link to comment
Voncachstein Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I think that the whole muggle thing is a little weirdish too. like he said, i would say onlookers, or walkers, hunters, whatever they are. Geocaching can be more fun than just a hike. My group of cachers, Team BSWS (Break Stuff With Sticks) for example, is a bunch of teens and we like to make the hike more "fun" than a straight walk. Next time, try hitting people, trees, or ice with sticks. it adds at least a tiny bit of fun hearing your friends yell and run after you. Quote Link to comment
+Honest John & Suzies Jule Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Next time, try hitting people, trees, or ice with sticks. it adds at least a tiny bit of fun hearing your friends yell and run after you. I want to party with you! Quote Link to comment
+The Neverlanders Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 My daughter calls non-cachers Nuggles (the N for Non). She said it sound more caching than Muggles. If that makes sense. But hey she is 13, stuck between being a kid and an adult. Such an akward age! Quote Link to comment
+GixxerUT Posted January 11, 2005 Author Share Posted January 11, 2005 Next time, try hitting people, trees, or ice with sticks. it adds at least a tiny bit of fun hearing your friends yell and run after you how about mountain bikers? I would pay you. My partners are too slim now, and I can't keep up with them, so I need some "help". Quote Link to comment
+bradandangela.com Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 (edited) I believe another thread on the subject of the use of the word "Muggle" stated that in the Potter books, a Muggle was someone unaware of the secret world hidden all around, the magic out of sight to their daily world. Kind of describes ( in a poetic way ) the relationship Geocaching holds. So, adopting the term Muggle makes sense, even if in a "geeky" way. You brought a tear to my eye! That's just beautiful! I like the term muggle, I like Harry Potter, I am definitely a geek, and I don't care. Didn't these guys see Revenge of the Nerds? The Nerds won! Edited January 11, 2005 by bradandangela.com Quote Link to comment
+bigredmed Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 like "muggles"???? Why don't internet forum people use everyday terms like "onlookers", as they would if they were talking in real life with real life everyday people? Or do Geocachers talk that way when they meet in real life too? I work for a medical school. When my wife and I are out and meet up with someone from the medical school, she refers to them as "Borg". I think the "muggle" term is silly and juvenile and therefore don't use it. But its the same as calling other UNMC employees Borg. A way of communicating your thoughts in a narrowcasting mode while in a public place. I refer to geocachers as cachers and non-geocachers as "other people" or "non-cachers". Quote Link to comment
+The Navigatorz Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 First of all, I am not a geek, and anyone who replies to this forum is a geek. Hey, wait a minute.... Quote Link to comment
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