Tymbee Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 I've tried using Track Up as the orientation setting when viewing maps-- but only for a brief period. Don't care for it at all and find it quite confusing and harder to visualize the "big picture". My wife's preference on the other hand is exactly the opposite. With orientating set to North Up she has a hard time visualizing which way to turn unless she can read the printed turn directions. She much prefers Track Up. Is this a male/female thing? Left brain / right brain phenomenon? Sure sign I'm losing it??? Quote Link to comment
+trezurratt Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Definately North Up. It's just the way I have always read a map. My 60CSx came W/default set to track up, which I guess is the norm. I was thinking? What the hell is this? Until I read in the manual that it could be changed to north up. Don't worry, your not losing it. I've tried using Track Up as the orientation setting when viewing maps-- but only for a brief period. Don't care for it at all and find it quite confusing and harder to visualize the "big picture". My wife's preference on the other hand is exactly the opposite. With orientating set to North Up she has a hard time visualizing which way to turn unless she can read the printed turn directions. She much prefers Track Up. Is this a male/female thing? Left brain / right brain phenomenon? Sure sign I'm losing it??? Quote Link to comment
kb9nvh Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 track up when zoomed below 1.2 mi North up 1.2mi and out. the 60csx changes automatically and can be set to your preference. My old gpsV did not do this...this is one of the new features I forget to tell everyone about but I love it. Definately North Up. It's just the way I have always read a map. My 60CSx came W/default set to track up, which I guess is the norm. I was thinking? What the hell is this? Until I read in the manual that it could be changed to north up. Don't worry, your not losing it. I've tried using Track Up as the orientation setting when viewing maps-- but only for a brief period. Don't care for it at all and find it quite confusing and harder to visualize the "big picture". My wife's preference on the other hand is exactly the opposite. With orientating set to North Up she has a hard time visualizing which way to turn unless she can read the printed turn directions. She much prefers Track Up. Is this a male/female thing? Left brain / right brain phenomenon? Sure sign I'm losing it??? Quote Link to comment
bgarland Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Obviously personal preference. :-) I like to use track up for in car driving and north up for trail hiking. Quote Link to comment
bgarland Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Obviously personal preference. :-) I like to use track up for in car driving and north up for trail hiking. Quote Link to comment
bgarland Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Obviously personal preference. :-) I like to use track up for in car driving and north up for trail hiking. Quote Link to comment
bgarland Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Obviously personal preference. :-) I like to use track up for in car driving and north up for trail hiking. Quote Link to comment
bgarland Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Obviously personal preference. :-) I like to use track up for in car driving and north up for trail hiking. Quote Link to comment
+trezurratt Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 How is this done? I can't find it in the manual? Is it as simple as putting it back on track up? I figured it out!! Still seems wierd seeing Indiana on the left. I see..... track up varies on the direction your facing. North is up no matter what direction your facing. Do you still have to get your bearing when using track up? I will experiment with this when I finally get out. This weekend is going to be near 100. Not sure I will get in my first cache this weekend. Thanks guys.... track up when zoomed below 1.2 mi North up 1.2mi and out. the 60csx changes automatically and can be set to your preference. My old gpsV did not do this...this is one of the new features I forget to tell everyone about but I love it. Definately North Up. It's just the way I have always read a map. My 60CSx came W/default set to track up, which I guess is the norm. I was thinking? What the hell is this? Until I read in the manual that it could be changed to north up. Don't worry, your not losing it. I've tried using Track Up as the orientation setting when viewing maps-- but only for a brief period. Don't care for it at all and find it quite confusing and harder to visualize the "big picture". My wife's preference on the other hand is exactly the opposite. With orientating set to North Up she has a hard time visualizing which way to turn unless she can read the printed turn directions. She much prefers Track Up. Is this a male/female thing? Left brain / right brain phenomenon? Sure sign I'm losing it??? Quote Link to comment
+Centex Trekker Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 track up when zoomed below 1.2 mi North up 1.2mi and out. the 60csx changes automatically and can be set to your preference. My old gpsV did not do this...this is one of the new features I forget to tell everyone about but I love it. That's what I'd like to see. How do I set it up for this behavior? Quote Link to comment
The Man Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 (edited) Track up unless on a plane then North up! Edited July 29, 2006 by The Man Quote Link to comment
Neo_Geo Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 North Up. That's how I've always read a map. I get all discombobulated if set to Track Up. But then having the automatic next turn pop-up screen flash with track up just before a turn does help greatly. Quote Link to comment
+team5150 Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 North Up...Just like looking at a map.....but thats just my opinion... Quote Link to comment
+thefiveofus Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 track up a vast majority of the time, both driving and hiking... I like to get the max map real estate in front of me,, and there's a little N indicator if I get confused... north up when I zoom out to 120 miles or so, e.g. if I need the big picture while driving... Quote Link to comment
bgarland Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Obviously personal preference. :-) I like to use track up for in car driving and north up for trail hiking. Sorry about the multiple posts. My internet connection got hosed up and somehow generated all thes posts when I intended to just post once. Quote Link to comment
+FamilyDNA Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 North up, definately. Drives me crazy because when I use street routing it always switches itself to track up and I have to go in and switch back to North up. Quote Link to comment
+Quoddy Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Track up... unless you are using a paper map at the same time. Don't you want to know what's in the direction you are going? Quote Link to comment
+Redwoods Mtn Biker Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Obviously personal preference. :-) I like to use track up for in car driving and north up for trail hiking. Same here. I look at maps so much hiking and biking, that I'm used to north being up. Track up makes so much more sense in the car. Rich Owings www.MakeYourOwnMaps.com www.GPStracklog.com “We were desert mystics, my friends and I, poring over our maps as others do their holy books.” – Edward Abbey Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Obviously personal preference. :-) I like to use track up for in car driving and north up for trail hiking. Same here. I look at maps so much hiking and biking, that I'm used to north being up. Track up makes so much more sense in the car. <snip> Same here. If it is set to Track Up when I am hiking and I stop, the map keeps flipping around and makes me dizzy. Quote Link to comment
+kayak-cowboy Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 i use track up while driving. when on trail I don't use the map screen just use the direction arrow. I don't have topo maps on my gps so the map screen would be of no use. Quote Link to comment
+Munin Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 If I'm actively following the map (hiking or driving) then definitely Track Up - I like my maps to line up with what my eyes see. Even with paper topo maps I'll usually turn the map so that it lines up with the terrain. A secondary reason is that the map screen (at least on the Garmin's I've used) is off-center from the current position, with about 2/3 of the map towards the top and only 1/3 on the bottom, so Track Up also usually gives me the best view of the terrain ahead. It's one of the reasons I started to really like the mag compass on my 76CS/CSx GPSrs - bop a button, map swivels around to what my brain thinks of as the "right direction". (My brain's one of those older models, so anything that reduces its processing load is usually A Good Thing. ) If I'm sitting at home and just mousing around the map to plan something out, then typically North Up. Otherwise the map just ends up randomly oriented, which I find rather annoying. Male vs female? Errr, I dunno - I'm male...make of that what you will. Quote Link to comment
+Jhwk Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Mine automatically switched to my preferred method, depending on the use. Track up while routing, North up for all other uses. Quote Link to comment
+Marcie/Eric Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Trackup. That way I know what's ahead of me. Would you look at a map from the side? Well, I don't anyways... Quote Link to comment
+MAG315 Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 On my Lowrance, I have the screen set for track up until I get close to the cache, then I set it for "heading" up which lets the internal compass orient the map with the bearing to the cache up. Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 If I'm actively following the map (hiking or driving) then definitely Track Up - I like my maps to line up with what my eyes see. Even with paper topo maps I'll usually turn the map so that it lines up with the terrain. A secondary reason is that the map screen (at least on the Garmin's I've used) is off-center from the current position, with about 2/3 of the map towards the top and only 1/3 on the bottom, so Track Up also usually gives me the best view of the terrain ahead. It's one of the reasons I started to really like the mag compass on my 76CS/CSx GPSrs - bop a button, map swivels around to what my brain thinks of as the "right direction". (My brain's one of those older models, so anything that reduces its processing load is usually A Good Thing. ) If I'm sitting at home and just mousing around the map to plan something out, then typically North Up. Otherwise the map just ends up randomly oriented, which I find rather annoying. Male vs female? Errr, I dunno - I'm male...make of that what you will. Ditto that but with a MeriPlat. Quote Link to comment
+Inmountains Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 Having been a Realtor for 16 years, and staring at maps DAILY, NORTH UP is the way I "see" a map, I can't "see" it any other way. Then again, I pretty much know my direction wherever I am, just a natural sense. It is whatever you are used to. Quote Link to comment
Tymbee Posted August 1, 2006 Author Share Posted August 1, 2006 Having been a Realtor for 16 years, and staring at maps DAILY, NORTH UP is the way I "see" a map, I can't "see" it any other way. Then again, I pretty much know my direction wherever I am, just a natural sense. Same here. I have a friend however who can go into a shopping mall she's never been at before for 10 minutes, then come out and she's completely disoriented. Has no idea which way to go-- assuming she's able to find the car of course. I do have to admit that while I think I have a pretty good sense of direction in general, when I do manage to get lost, that sense of direction which ordinarily keeps me out of trouble, somehow seems to act against me. Like feeding info into a computer gone haywire: "THAT DOES NOT COMPUTE... THAT DOES NOT COMPUTER... THAT... " Weird... Quote Link to comment
+Campmaster Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 No question, Track up for me. ~CMT Quote Link to comment
alwaysGPS Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 track up when zoomed below 1.2 mi North up 1.2mi and out. the 60csx changes automatically and can be set to your preference. How is the setting done? Thought there is only one setting allowable - either "Track up" or "North up" and not depending on zoom level? I would prefer Track up to show me the direction that I am heading. North up is more for big picture view like looking at a paper map. Anyway, as others said, its personal preference. Cheers. Quote Link to comment
arthurking83 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I agree with everyone else that says use what makes more sense to you. I tried using track up and it made me all disorientated if I got out of the car and out on foot. My main reason for using North up, (always got my head in the street directory (as a delivery driver) so that's what I'm used to), but mainly to keep a check on my orientation... half an hour driving north east.....half an hour driving north...... using track up I never spent any time noticing the orientation of the compass to see in what direction I've BEEN travelling! This gives me a greater sense of where I am and how to go on from there (without the need to rely on the GPS if worse comes to worse) Quote Link to comment
+Munin Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 (edited) track up when zoomed below 1.2 mi North up 1.2mi and out. the 60csx changes automatically and can be set to your preference. How is the setting done? Thought there is only one setting allowable - either "Track up" or "North up" and not depending on zoom level? On the Garmin 60/76-series, underneath the Orientation (North vs Track) setting there should be a "Below" setting that takes a zoom level value. (If you read the two settings together it might be a little more meaningful - "Track Up...below 5 miles") Edit to clarify: The "Below" option is underneath the "Orientation" setting if you're on the Map Setup - General page. (As opposed to the Satellite display's options menu, which provides North vs Track Up, but lacks the "Below" setting. ) Edited August 1, 2006 by Munin Quote Link to comment
CenTexDodger Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I am definitely a north-up person. as others have said, it is how you read a map. The flaw is if you are heading due south, then the orientation is backwards--something that is on your right will be on the left side of the map screen! Quote Link to comment
+LLB Quest'ers Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I am definitely a north-up person. as others have said, it is how you read a map. The flaw is if you are heading due south, then the orientation is backwards--something that is on your right will be on the left side of the map screen! My girlfriend is the north-up person in our group.. I like the track up method with all the map in front of me. If I want to orient myself to north, I carry my compass at all times for this. I find using this with the track on allows me to backtrack easier and to figure out where I'm going on the topo map... But, no matter which way you use, as long as you get to where you want to, no matter how many turns you take to get there. Quote Link to comment
-Oz- Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I use track up because its easier at a quick glance. If I want it north up I can just rotate the map in my head. For driving track up is definitely my perference. If i'm comparing to a paper map I'll just rotate the GPSr so its properly oriented. Quote Link to comment
explorerboy Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Obviously personal preference. :-) I like to use track up for in car driving and north up for trail hiking. I totally agree. Quote Link to comment
+piper28 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Wife and I are both north up people. Tried track up, just didn't like it. I have to admit, I was a little surprised that she also felt that way, but it works well, since we don't have to change the setting ever then. Quote Link to comment
+CJOttawa Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Track-up below 800meters (about 2500feet). For local navigation, north up just gets confusing - I want to know what's left and what's right of me - and I'm usually zoomed to this level when auto-routing. For long-range nav, north-up gives that "global view." BTW: I was taught to use a map "track up" when flying a plane. I have no idea what the norm is for nautical or terrestrial navigation. Quote Link to comment
+H2OBob Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I use track up, because I have maps on the GPSr, and as I'm walking toward the cache, or down a trail, I can compair the actual terrain or trail to what is on the screen. Seems logical to me, however, try both ways, and use whatever seems most natural to you. Quote Link to comment
+Cache Heads Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Obviously personal preference. :-) I like to use track up for in car driving and north up for trail hiking. Could you repeat that one more time? But, seriously, I agree with you. I hate using track up when I'm hiking-- it's way too confusing. But in the car it works. Quote Link to comment
+dtr Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I've only had my first GPSr unit for about a week, but I've tried both and so far I like using the track up as the north bearing is displayed in the upper right corner of the map screen. Quote Link to comment
+weakfish Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I've tried using Track Up as the orientation setting when viewing maps-- but only for a brief period. Don't care for it at all and find it quite confusing and harder to visualize the "big picture". My wife's preference on the other hand is exactly the opposite. With orientating set to North Up she has a hard time visualizing which way to turn unless she can read the printed turn directions. She much prefers Track Up. Is this a male/female thing? Left brain / right brain phenomenon? Sure sign I'm losing it??? I use "North UP" for land use and "Track Up" for Marine use... Not sure why... I guess because when I used to use paper maps in the truck they're all "north up" and all of the big Furuno or Northstar GPS I used on commercial boats were set to rotate the charts so your heading was always up. Quote Link to comment
bgarland Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Obviously personal preference. :-) I like to use track up for in car driving and north up for trail hiking. Could you repeat that one more time? But, seriously, I agree with you. I hate using track up when I'm hiking-- it's way too confusing. But in the car it works. Yea. Yea, Yea...I have worked my entire life around computers, I was already embarrassed enough. Thanks for rubbing it in. Quote Link to comment
+1701eh Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 North up!!! If something were to happen to the GPS or the backup, I would still remember my basic track well enough to be able to use my compass and get back out. Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Noth up. I get discoriented if the map is spinning. Quote Link to comment
+G & E Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 North up all the time. My wife finds that difficult and prefers it the other way so maybe you're right about the male female thing. Quote Link to comment
+naviguesser74 Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Interesting to see this debate again. As a navigator in the Navy, I used to see it both ways in that some captains thought "in relative," especially submariners, thus, target angle and angle on the bow. However, most think "in true," that is, north is up and everything is reported relative to north. Quote Link to comment
+Thrak Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 I had always set it for North up because I thought, "Duh........ that's how maps work". One day I set it for Track up just to see what it was like. I've left it that way ever since. Track up for me. Quote Link to comment
+Dogs Dad Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Always North up, can't get used to reading a map any other way when hiking but I can see the attraction of track up when driving and will give it a go Quote Link to comment
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