avroair Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Curious if people would be interested in entering a Great Coin Race - Around the Cache World in 80 caches. For a $20 entrance fee each participant would get 3 coins (one to enter the race, a spare and a race exclusive coin). The coins would look like a hot air balloon. Each coin would travel from cache to cache and have to accomplish 7 great feats (tba later). Once your coin completes the 7 feats they get a 'Seven Feats' prize coin. The balloon race coins would be trackable and have a balloon as an icon. Just gathering thoughts, opinions and ideas? Post them here. (coin design to come later). The main goal is to get a bunch of coins out into caches for people to move along. Each coin in the race would have a traveler label explaining what it is doing and how to help it along. Quote Link to comment
+summerandnana Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 That sounds like great fun. Quote Link to comment
+Ryder3 & Better Half Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 REALLY COOL IDEA!!! You can count us in! Sounds like a BLAST!!! Will be waiting for further details! Thanks! Quote Link to comment
+chief20r2 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Great Idea !!!! Count me in. Quote Link to comment
+sillygirl & jrr Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Count us in. Sounds like great fun. Quote Link to comment
+SeabeckTribe Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 This sounds like a fun adventure. Count the Tribe in. Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Sounds fun. I'll keep watching for more details... That will be two balloon coins in the collection! Quote Link to comment
+Team Honeybunnies Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Count us in! What kind of time frame are we looking at? Quote Link to comment
+studlyone Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I'm in. This is a great idea. Ian Quote Link to comment
+UOTrackers Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 This sounds like a lot of fun! How could you ensure the coins travel by caching and not by air mail? Or will air mail be allowed? It's not easy to get a coin across the pond without this unless people post their trips and accept extra baggage. Quote Link to comment
+WWC-World's Worst Cacher Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 great idea! I am in Quote Link to comment
+fox-and-the-hound Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 This is a great idea definitely want to hear more! Quote Link to comment
+Dani Du & the Muttley Crew Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Sounds like fun to me. Count me in. Dani Du Quote Link to comment
danoshimano Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Please add my name to the list! Quote Link to comment
+Makk&Sunny Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Add us too. Sounds like a lot of fun... Quote Link to comment
+Lee-2 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 COOL IDEA! Sounds like fun. Count us in. Quote Link to comment
+nielsenc Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I like it. Print the instructions on the coin, like we did for Generic, so people know what they are for. Hopefully you release a bunch so people dont keep them! Quote Link to comment
+scaw Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 would love to join in too Quote Link to comment
+Team JSAM Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Yea what they said, I'm in! Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted July 22, 2006 Author Share Posted July 22, 2006 time frame: 80 days. hehe Quote Link to comment
+ozymandiasism Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 time frame: 80 days. hehe Have you thought about options for the 7 feats yet? Quote Link to comment
ParentsofSAM Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 I LOVE it.....put us on the list! Can we enter more than one set? Quote Link to comment
+bobuk Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 please put my name down sounds good to me b. Quote Link to comment
+JackSpratsMom&Dad Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Sounds like great fun....count me in. Quote Link to comment
+allwayslooking_99 Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 Sign us up, up and away..... Great idea Quote Link to comment
+BlkSqrl413 & MrsBlkSqrl Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 We're definitely interested! Sounds like alot of fun Please keep us posted! Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted July 23, 2006 Author Share Posted July 23, 2006 time frame: 80 days. hehe Have you thought about options for the 7 feats yet? Yeah I begun thinking about the feats but if you have any suggestions post them here! They would be things like: 1) move thru 7 caches 2) cross a time zone 3) be placed in an event, puzzle, multi, regular cache (the first three being easier with more and more difficult challenges...) we could actually have 15 challenges that are harder and harder to accomplish (and build on one another) I don't see why someone can't enter more than once. Quote Link to comment
+Team LightningBugs Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 I'd probably enter, but I don't seem to have much luck with these things. Quote Link to comment
+ozymandiasism Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 time frame: 80 days. hehe Have you thought about options for the 7 feats yet? Yeah I begun thinking about the feats but if you have any suggestions post them here! They would be things like: 1) move thru 7 caches 2) cross a time zone 3) be placed in an event, puzzle, multi, regular cache (the first three being easier with more and more difficult challenges...) we could actually have 15 challenges that are harder and harder to accomplish (and build on one another) I don't see why someone can't enter more than once. Depends on how complicated the feats are... 80 days might not be enough (god knows some people keep TBs for weeks, myself included, guilt as charged). Maybe we can do somehting like the premier geocoin race... but give out more specific missions... let's say...to visit 15 specific countries, etc. And maybe there can be more winning categories? Just a thought Quote Link to comment
+freespirit1402 Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 possibly, sounds interesting Quote Link to comment
+whitebear Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 I may be interested as well Quote Link to comment
+oldnavy59 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 sounds fun count me in Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Awesome idea,,, Count me in !! Quote Link to comment
+globalgirl Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 (edited) Brilliantly fun notion, count me in. P.S. I like ozymandiasism's ideas re: more time, specific missions and especially more winning categories. Not to overly complicate things but, how bout... Perhaps the "missions" could be assigned points for difficulty - i.e. those that require more time, distance, trouble (like logging it thru an event cache would get a tad fewer pts. than say... getting it to the top of Everest, the moon, etc. Edited July 24, 2006 by globalgirl Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 Great idea's so far... the plan is formulating... I like the points idea... more points for harder tasks... and we could have a list of 80 tasks... varied so the goal would be to hit as many as possible. Ok list your feat ideas people! Quote Link to comment
+globalgirl Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Well o.k. I'll bite to get the juices drooling 'round here. But just fuzzy brainstorming 'cuz no doubt both missions and pt. assignments will be necessarily arbitrary (and muchly debated). For starters, I'm thinking we'd want the focus of the missions to be on global geographics and geocaching related. And ideally devised such that the playing field will be generally globally level. e.g. a mission of all 50 states clearly leaves a goodly part of the Planet at a disadvantage (not to mention begs the question as to what might be comparable in say... South Africa.) Then again... I guess these little travelers can be sent anywhere and helped by folks all over the globe, so... Nonetheless, I hafta say a mission of all 50 states (for example) seems mighty narrow-minded for an "Around the World in 80 days" race. Other thoughts... I'm thinkin'... maybe a point system ranging from 1 - 1000. With the top of Everest assigned the 1k and each and every generic cache logged 1 pt. of course. <btw, should you manage to get your coin first on the moon, then you win, hands-down, no question!> Each country visited (can only get points once for each country visited): 50 pts. 5 countries visited: bonus of 100 pts. (i.e. total of 350 pts.) 10 countries visited: bonus of 300 pts. (i.e. total 800 pts.) Most countries visited: 1000 pts. Most miles: I dunno, maybe 800 pts. Cross a time zone: 100 pts. Cache above 14,000 ft. say, 250 pts. Cache below sea level (i.e. underwater), likewise 250 pts. Cache within say... 50 miles of one of the 7 Wonders of the World: 500 pts. Various 'n sundry other notions... Logged at an event cache might be 20 pts. Logged into a newly placed cache: 50 pts. 5 star difficulty or 5 star terrain cache: 100 pts. (each) I'd also like to see a few pts. added for a wheelchair accessible cache. Furthest north cache: 250 pts. Likewise, South, East and West (based on our trusty Equator and the jolly ol' Prime Meridian): 250 pts. Then there's - how to verify (not to mention track) missions successfully completed (photos with gps coords?) Timewise? Well yes, we couuuld do just 80 days. But... I'd give it at least 3 months - possibly 6, maybe even a year... Just a potpourii of stray thoughts here - hopefully to stir up further input. I'm happy to help organize, etc. anyway I can (shoot, I might even whittle a custom little "passport" for each coin in the race similar to these little honeys.) But I dare say... Bottom line? Let's remember this is a GAME after all. So let's try to keep fair 'n FUN! Quote Link to comment
+Lemon Fresh Dog Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I would be in. The only "challenge" I see is coin attrition. (ie - stolen). So it would be neat to be able to enter multiple coins. Quote Link to comment
+manchanegra Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Seems interesting. Is this for USA and Canada residents only or for all the world residents? Quote Link to comment
+ozymandiasism Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Well o.k. I'll bite to get the juices drooling 'round here. But just fuzzy brainstorming 'cuz no doubt both missions and pt. assignments will be necessarily arbitrary (and muchly debated). For starters, I'm thinking we'd want the focus of the missions to be on global geographics and geocaching related. And ideally devised such that the playing field will be generally globally level. e.g. a mission of all 50 states clearly leaves a goodly part of the Planet at a disadvantage (not to mention begs the question as to what might be comparable in say... South Africa.) Then again... I guess these little travelers can be sent anywhere and helped by folks all over the globe, so... Nonetheless, I hafta say a mission of all 50 states (for example) seems mighty narrow-minded for an "Around the World in 80 days" race. Other thoughts... I'm thinkin'... maybe a point system ranging from 1 - 1000. With the top of Everest assigned the 1k and each and every generic cache logged 1 pt. of course. <btw, should you manage to get your coin first on the moon, then you win, hands-down, no question!> Each country visited (can only get points once for each country visited): 50 pts. 5 countries visited: bonus of 100 pts. (i.e. total of 350 pts.) 10 countries visited: bonus of 300 pts. (i.e. total 800 pts.) Most countries visited: 1000 pts. Most miles: I dunno, maybe 800 pts. Cross a time zone: 100 pts. Cache above 14,000 ft. say, 250 pts. Cache below sea level (i.e. underwater), likewise 250 pts. Cache within say... 50 miles of one of the 7 Wonders of the World: 500 pts. Various 'n sundry other notions... Logged at an event cache might be 20 pts. Logged into a newly placed cache: 50 pts. 5 star difficulty or 5 star terrain cache: 100 pts. (each) I'd also like to see a few pts. added for a wheelchair accessible cache. Furthest north cache: 250 pts. Likewise, South, East and West (based on our trusty Equator and the jolly ol' Prime Meridian): 250 pts. Then there's - how to verify (not to mention track) missions successfully completed (photos with gps coords?) Timewise? Well yes, we couuuld do just 80 days. But... I'd give it at least 3 months - possibly 6, maybe even a year... Just a potpourii of stray thoughts here - hopefully to stir up further input. I'm happy to help organize, etc. anyway I can (shoot, I might even whittle a custom little "passport" for each coin in the race similar to these little honeys.) But I dare say... Bottom line? Let's remember this is a GAME after all. So let's try to keep fair 'n FUN! Neat Idea. My personal opinion as follow: 1. I think it will be very cool to see your coin earning thousands and millions of points. However, it will get complicated, becqause it LOOKS complicated... "100+250+500+1+25=waaaaat?". I would suggest that we limit the point system to 1-10 point. Anyting above 5pt should not be easy to get. At all. 2. I would probably eliminate the point reward for crossing a time zone. Points awarded for each country visited should be enough 3. I would probbaly reword "newly placed caches" as FTF caches. (What is considered to be newly placed?) 4. Wheelchair Accessable caches. I think it is a great concept, but isn't a lot of urban caches are wheelchair accessible (50%+)? I can be wrong. 5. I think the further E/W/N/S might be stretching it a little... 6. LOVE the passport idea! good call! 7. Most important point. Who will have time to manage all the stats? The more complicated we make the game, the more time it will take to update the playfield. I can see it becoming extremely time consuming to update on a weekly bases.... Now your turn. Quote Link to comment
+globalgirl Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Is this for USA and Canada residents only or for all the world residents? Why open to each and every geoaddict on the Planet of course! Quote Link to comment
+globalgirl Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Lots there to ponder, ozy. More later, but for now... 3. I would probbaly reword "newly placed caches" as FTF caches. (What is considered to be newly placed?) By newly placed, I mean a new hide. A newly hidden cache with the coin left for... not necessarily only the FTF, but whomever will move it along swiftly in the race. Quote Link to comment
+Whistlen Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I'm game...errr....want to play the game that is! ADD ME TOO PLEASE! Quote Link to comment
glennk721 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I'm Game Please put me on the list, Glenn Quote Link to comment
+summerandnana Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Here are a few of my ideas: visit a nightcache visit an event cache visit a mountain cache visit a river or lake cache most caches visited most miles traveled visit an urban cache visit an ammo box cache visit another continent the list can certainly be added to and at first glance these may all seem rather boring and simple but I feel if you start getting too complicated it will get very frustrating - these coud all be easily verified - a tag could have all the criteria listed and maybe a way to mark them off as completed? Quote Link to comment
+globalgirl Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Curious if people would be interested in entering a Great Coin Race - Around the Cache World in 80 caches. For a $20 entrance fee each participant would get 3 coins (one to enter the race, a spare and a race exclusive coin). The coins would look like a hot air balloon. Each coin would travel from cache to cache and have to accomplish 7 great feats (tba later). Once your coin completes the 7 feats they get a 'Seven Feats' prize coin. The balloon race coins would be trackable and have a balloon as an icon. Yup, (though thousands of pts. could be easily calculated in a nanosecond via a well-built spreadsheet), I too am beginning to wonder if a convoluted point system wouldn't be a nightmare to track (unless some whiz-bang backender would like to step up and create a dynamic database ). Thus... looking back on avroair's original notion - it might well be better to simply devise a set of 7 Feats/Missions, that each coin would strive to complete. The first (2nd and 3rd?) to complete all might get a special bundle of coins/trinkets (we could all chip in something to sweeten the prize.) BUT - *ALL* who eventually completed all 7 feats (within some generous time limit) would get one of the special "Seven Feats" coins. The fun would lie mainly in devising truly fun missions. My first thought is simply 7 countries of course, but we could also have them gather something from each, or... complete some other such task w/in each country (like... get a pic with Msr. Blair!) And/or... the 7 countries have to include at least 3 different continents, or some such. And/or... 80 caches in each of 7 countries, and/or... Truly blathering here now, but suffice, putting our creative efforts into devising 7 fun missions would no doubt make the whole affair far more manageable (and I'd still consider whittling a custom bitty passport for each entry - uh, depending on how many we're talking about here...). <o.k. somebody else's turn again... > Quote Link to comment
+manchanegra Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Is this for USA and Canada residents only or for all the world residents? Why open to each and every geoaddict on the Planet of course! Great! Count me in please! Alberto aka manchanegra Quote Link to comment
+crunchberry Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Throw me on the list - sounds like a blast! Quote Link to comment
+BigC & LilC Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 I Love the idea...count us in Quote Link to comment
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