Geocaching - a filthy habit?

November 1, 2003

Hi, maybe I'm wrong, but there's something about geocaching that's bothering me. I'm seeing this through the eyes of a newbie so maybe that means I'm unqualified or maybe it just means I have a fresh perspective. Anyway...

It's this idea of hiding the cache by sticking it under the ground cover, or under water or in a place that's just not readily visible.

I've been going through the forums and geocaching sites reading messages and generally just trying to get up to speed. I've seen several messages by geocachers saying "the cache was out in the open so I covered with some twigs and leaves". I've see pictures of people hauling their cache up out of a lake.

I've also been out looking for several caches and found areas that looked like they had been rooted up by pigs.

While I am totally into electronics and high tech (including gps) I don't especially want to get dirty or disturb the environment. I don't want to look under rocks (spiders, snakes, etc.). I don't want to dig through the underbrush (poison ivy, poison oak, thorns, spiders, snakes, etc.). I don't want to get dirty crawling around looking under bushes. I don't want dig up the ground.

Yes, I know there are virtual caches that meet these requirements, but that doesn't have the fun of "the hunt".

Geocaching is still in it's infancy as a sport. I have a few suggestions that might make it more appealing to more people:

- Caches should not require moving rocks, plants or ground cover.

- Caches should not be placed under water.

- Caches should be hidden in a place that is visible to a person standing up.

To follow these rules hiding a cache might take a little more finesse, but this is a creative group. (Camouflage would still be ok.)

Maybe I sound like a wimp, but I have actually spent a lot of time outdoors. One of the primary creeds of any serious camper or hiker is that you should leave the area in the same condition you found it (or better). The geocachers current lack of respect for the environment is what's gotten the community banned from the National Parks.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. That's my 2 cents worth...

3.8k · November 1, 2003

We are not talking about taking leaves from trees. We will pick up duff and cover a cache.

This meets the condition of making an area better. With more air circulation the composting process is improved helping nutrients back into the soil. By picking up trash as we leave we make the area more pristine. People who might not typically enjoy the outdoors are introduced to a sport that will eventually bring them into the group that wants to protect urban parks.

Originally I was concerned about Geotrails. Until I noticed the deer trails through the woods. Most of the time I follow deer trails until I get to the cache.

My feeling is that most of the backlash against geocachers is in reallity a backlash against non-geocachers. Because we spend little time in the parks we are lumped together with those who run into the woods to "enjoy nature" with their grills and beer and food wrappers.

My rant response worth 1 cent.

November 1, 2003

For the most part, I've seen the positive side of geocaching. Areas have become cleaner because gc'ers have cached in and trashed out, have worked to keep caches from being too visible and prey to unintentional finders who might be disturbed by or disturb the caches, have reclaimed neglected parks, and have worked with permission of land managers to do so. In the area I generally cache in, the cache trails are often less visible than the deer and wildlife trails around them. Digging buried caches is universally accepted as being in the worst taste possible, and new cachers are encouraged to respect natural areas, not desecrate them in their searches. A good cache and cacher blends his or her cache into the surrounding area, not in opposition to it. In all honesty, I've carried an infinite amount more junk out of the woods in my life than I've put into it by geocaching.

Given the parameters you have set in where and what you want to look for in a cache, you might find that this game is not for you. Honestly, if you were to try to follow some of the rules you want, there wouldn't be many opportunities to cache for anything outside of your own windowsill plant garden, and even then, well... it is a dirty game sometimes.

(I too follow an outdoor creed, one that I've practiced both personally and professionally all my life. Geocaching can fit into those guidelines, if practiced with diligence and concern for the environment.)

"All of us are standing in the mud, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde

2.7k · November 1, 2003

Why don't you go out and get some real experience so your rant can have some factual basis.

And what is your basis for this unfounded statement. "The geocachers current lack of respect for the environment is what's gotten the community banned from the National Parks".

Doesn't it make you wonder why small tupperware containers are considered litter by the USFS and must be removed from our lands while they allow you to go make a firepit, cook your meal, and leave your firepit for others to find and use. Or some concerned Cacher who cleans up old firepits as part of CITO, and carries out several bags of trash from the waste of others.

Tahosa - Dweller of Mountain Tops.

24.7k · November 1, 2003

Thinking about where you would hide a cache helps you find it. Funny as that sounds it saves you from 'rooting' around in the dirt.

I have no idea where your no underwater cache came rule from. But that's a valid cache.

Caches should be hidden so that a geocacher can find it but a non geocacher won't find it by accident. This may or may not have anything to do with standing up.

The best hides do this last bit very well. Something that with a little though will reward you with a find and yet you didn't have to 'root' around.

Generally rooting is a newbie thing because pro's are smarter than that.

November 1, 2003

I agree with you on some points. I do not like having to do a lot of rooting around (that's why I usually use the clue - and I hate lame clues). When I hide a cache, I always have a little bit of it visible so that someone can spot it (sometimes having to bend down) without having to disturb the area.

I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me.

5.9k · November 1, 2003

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I've also been out looking for several caches and found areas that looked like they had been rooted up by pigs.

Then you should destroy any wild or domesticated pig you encounter to prevent such disturbance.

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I don't want to look under rocks (spiders, snakes, etc.).

Then this ain’t the hobby for you dude.

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I don't want dig up the ground

Good, you’re not supposed to.

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Geocaching is still in it's infancy as a sport

You can’t say that if you have only just started. Geocaching is over the hill and sliding quickly towards senility.

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I have a few suggestions that might make it more appealing to more people:

It’s already appealing to thousands as it is, the server can’t handle any more appeal.

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To follow these rules hiding a cache might take a little more finesse, but this is a creative group.

Well there’s the world wide web, go start a game and make the rules the way you want.

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Maybe I sound like a wimp, but I have actually spent a lot of time outdoors

You can’t count the time you spend walking to the mailbox.

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The geocachers current lack of respect for the environment is what's gotten the community banned from the National Parks.

I’m unsure where you obtained this pearl of wisdom. The reason we cannot hide (legally) in the NPs is due to misinformation and lack of understanding, much like this thread.

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That's my 2 cents worth...

Here’s a dollar, do some research before you make blanket and absolute statements.

http://fp1.centurytel.net/Criminal_Page/

November 1, 2003

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While I am totally into electronics and high tech (including gps) I don't especially want to get dirty or disturb the environment. I don't want to look under rocks (spiders, snakes, etc.). I don't want to dig through the underbrush (poison ivy, poison oak, thorns, spiders, snakes, etc.). I don't want to get dirty crawling around looking under bushes. I don't want dig up the ground.

Follow these rules to protect the environment.

Stay in your house, don't use any electricity, or water, don't eat any food and hold your breathe forever. Doing anything else will disturb the environment.

That's my .02!

Maps?!? I don't need no stinking maps! I got coordinates!

There's a fine line between Geocaching and mental illness, I'm just not sure which side of the line I'm on!

November 1, 2003

I really dont understand how you can make such statements without even one found cache or one placed cache on your stats page.I think maybe you should at least try the game out first before you make an opinion on it then if you still feel the same GO AWAY!!!!!

November 1, 2003

Well, judging by the resposes it looks like I might have hit a nerve.

Some of the responses are defensive and some are outright hostile.

Here are a few more things to think about:

Yes, I am new to this hobby. Maybe I don't see it the way you do, but I am seeing it the way many "outsiders" would. If there are things about this activity that are turning me off you can be sure there are many others who haven't bothered to say anything at all. They will just invest their time, energy and money in something else.

Maybe instead of using ammo cans, tupperware and plastic film canisters somebody should think about milk cartons, small cereal boxes (variety pack) and paper match boxes. At least these things will decompose if they are abandoned. The plastic and metal caches that are being hidden now will be around for a long, long time. It may be treasure to a geocacher, but it's trash to anyone else.

The things I'm saying are just food for thought. Maybe my suggestions aren't perfect, but they might at least start some constructive improvement.

24.7k · November 1, 2003

Tiger88,

You are too funny.

6.5k · November 1, 2003

Sheesh I thought Tigersockpuppets were banned from the forums?

Why don't you just work on the Xbox/ Sega geocaching game? You say you like the sport and have a lot of tech skills. I'm sure there would be a huge demand for that version from people who share your point of view.

Criminal-I hope I get the chance to meet you some day. You wrote the reply I was thinking as I read the original post.

These changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes;

Nothing remains quite the same.

Through all of the islands and all of the highlands,

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane

3.8k · November 1, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger88:
Well, judging by the resposes it looks like I might have hit a nerve.

Some of the responses are defensive and some are outright hostile.

Here are a few more things to think about:

Yes, I am new to this hobby. Maybe I don't see it the way you do, but I am seeing it the way many "outsiders" would. If there are things about this activity that are turning me off you can be sure there are many others who haven't bothered to say anything at all. They will just invest their time, energy and money in something else.

Part of the problem here is that you are making statements that are not based in fact. Without the facts your responsed verge on the edge of being an enviromental wacko. By and large Geocaching is a very enviroment friendly activity.

Maybe instead of using ammo cans, tupperware and plastic film canisters somebody should think about milk cartons, small cereal boxes (variety pack) and paper match boxes. At least these things will decompose if they are abandoned. The plastic and metal caches that are being hidden now will be around for a long, long time. It may be treasure to a geocacher, but it's trash to anyone else.

Paper and cardboard packages would be torn to shreds in a matter of days and the contents would be scattered around the area. So we have trash spread around not to mention that the first rain would render the cache unusable. Then another cache would be placed. No doubt that all the trash from the first cache would not be completely picked up. So much for not impacting the area.

The things I'm saying are just food for thought. Maybe my suggestions aren't perfect, but they might at least start some constructive improvement.

In order for your comments to start constructive improvement you need to respond specifically to replys that are made to you. Without the reasoned exchange of ideas this thread will just become one man trying to get the users of this sites ire up.

November 1, 2003

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Originally posted by Tiger88:
..........The things I'm saying are just food for thought. Maybe my suggestions aren't perfect, but they might at least start some constructive improvement.

Let me get this straight: You have determined that this hobby, as practiced by tens of thousands world wide, needs improvement and you're the one to improve it without ever having participated in it yourself? There is a name for this type of behavior. Can you think of it?

November 1, 2003

I am hoping that since you have no finds or hides, this is a BIG joke. Let's see.....

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Maybe instead of using ammo cans, tupperware and plastic film canisters somebody should think about milk cartons, small cereal boxes (variety pack) and paper match boxes. At least these things will decompose if they are abandoned. The plastic and metal caches that are being hidden now will be around for a long, long time. It may be treasure to a geocacher, but it's trash to anyone else.

Well, maybe your not thinking straight, after all you siad you were an "outdoors type". Anyone who has experience outdoors will have experienced rain. Cardboard will decompose alright. But the idea of geocaching is to have containers that keep things DRY!!!!

If you are really serious, here's some advice:

This sport, like all other sports, isn't for everyone. I really don't have grand hopes of a world where everyone geocaches. So, I tell anyone who ask how it's done and let them decide if they want to do it or not. If you don't like how it's played, give some ideas, like you have, and hope for the best, but don't expect all of us to change because you have some problems with it.

Last, but certainly not least, the "constructive improvements" comment. I don't see how putting caches in containers that will decompose in 3 weeks as being constructive. Nor do I see how raking up DEAD leaves as being destructive. Man, your post are REALLY FUNNY!!!

" If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride...and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards." Paul "Bear" Bryant

God Bless you and your family.

God bless

22k · November 1, 2003

Just in case you are serious:

Not everyone is going to like the same things. I think you shouldn't be so surprised that the majority of cachers didn't slap their collective foreheads and ask "where have you been this whole time?"

You can certainly join in on any part of this sport that appeals to you. Their are many levels of play that might meet your personal criteria, and going for the ones that you prefer doesn't make you a wimp. Just don't think that the rules are going to change just because the tougher ones offend your personal sensibilities.

1.7k · November 1, 2003

Since this thread's title, and initial post focus on getting dirty:

(1)Try the underwater caches - they should be clean.

(2)I guess that I was brought up wrong. I couldn't spend a lot of time outdoors without picking up some dirt....

(3) "I've also been out looking for several caches" - then log your finds. or are you just taking potshots because you don't like this activity? It is OK to not like geocaching, but why make the post? I wouldn't go to a caver's web site and post about how dirty/stupid/or unattractive their hobby is. (It isn't, but that is besides the point.)

Sounds like a sock puppet account to me.

DustyJacket

Not all those that wander are lost. But in my case...

2.1k · November 1, 2003

I'm convinced. In fact, my first geocache that I plan on hiding tomorrow will now be a sheet of natural paper and three acorns for trade items. These things will be placed in a pre-wetted empty toilet-paper tube.

Come on, before anyone else responds to this obvious troll of a post with anything even closely resembling sincerity, do the mods think they could actually do something more than slapping Jomarac around and demask this sock puppet, scooby-style?

Jinkies...

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Arrr, there be smurfs ta smurf.

22k · November 1, 2003

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Come on, before anyone else responds to this obvious troll of a post with anything even closely resembling sincerity, do the mods think they could actually do something more than slapping Jomarac around and demask this sock puppet, scooby-style?

Jinkies...

You mean we can't let a troll in from time to time? I think it's good practice to pull together and get huffy at someone who disagrees with anything we're doing.

November 1, 2003

Regarding caches hidden under rocks -- get yourself a good hiking stick.

Regarding rooted by pigs -- maybe they were pigs.

Regarding caches under the water -- if you don't like that type, then don't go after them.

You have just as much control over how the sport goes for YOU as others do -- just stay away from the cache types you don't like.

Me, I like a good hunt. I don't like to walk up and 'there it is' just sitting out in the open. Don't consider that a challenge.

This week we spent more than two days (total) doing a cache called "Red Scorpion" here in south Florida -- check it out -- this is your worst nightmare !!

November 1, 2003

This HAS to be a sock puppet doesn't it? No one would have the lack of common sense as to come on a specialist site like this and rip into its basic subject matter surely? Well, unless they were the kind of person who also fills their underwear with poison ivy for fun.

Nah, has to be a leg pull post - but, I will admit that, if it is, it's a darn good one!

Only nuts eat squirrels,

Snake

November 1, 2003

In my post, I was giving the benefit of the doubt, and was being nice to a noob. Your secondary suggestions imply that you are either one of the most naive "outdoor types" I ever heard from, you are trolling for attention, or you are simple. Your choice.

My suggestion for you is to watch the Nature Channel with a can of bug spray handy, and your Mom nearby to handle anything else that scares you.

Honestly, even with the relative politeness of this forum in comparison to many others, you are about to get seriously flamed. Even in the best of Leave No Trace ethics, human beings leave some impact. Ours game is fairly benign in the long run; yours is creating trash.

But if you are trolling, you did liven up the forums for about thirty-eight seconds.

"All of us are standing in the mud, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde

November 1, 2003

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Originally posted by Tiger88:
Well, judging by the resposes it looks like I might have hit a nerve.

Some of the responses are defensive and some are outright hostile.

Here are a few more things to think about:

Yes, I am new to this hobby. Maybe I don't see it the way you do, but I am seeing it the way many "outsiders" would. If there are things about this activity that are turning me off you can be sure there are many others who haven't bothered to say anything at all. They will just invest their time, energy and money in something else.

Maybe instead of using ammo cans, tupperware and plastic film canisters somebody should think about milk cartons, small cereal boxes (variety pack) and paper match boxes. At least these things will decompose if they are abandoned. The plastic and metal caches that are being hidden now will be around for a long, long time. It may be treasure to a geocacher, but it's trash to anyone else.

The things I'm saying are just food for thought. Maybe my suggestions aren't perfect, but they might at least start some constructive improvement.

(1) My bet is that this is a sock puppet -- come on, who is it??

(2) If not, then my first response is that I'm glad that all those others with your views have not started geocaching. Perhaps you should consider putting your GPS up for sale on ebay, before you get it dirty.

(3) Oh yes, I don't know how I forgot this one -- did you want some cheese to go with your wine?

November 1, 2003

Ummmmm....ever think about taking up cake decorating for a hobby Tiger ?

Aging is not for wimps !

Hey, my gray hair is just a disquise !

November 1, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger88:
Maybe instead of using ammo cans, tupperware and plastic film canisters somebody should think about milk cartons, small cereal boxes (variety pack) and paper match boxes. At least these things will decompose if they are abandoned. The plastic and metal caches that are being hidden now will be around for a long, long time. It may be treasure to a geocacher, but it's trash to anyone else.

As stated in my earlier response, I thought some of your points had merit, but this is really quite silly. Firstly, the responsible cachers to whom I presume you direct your suggetions, do not "abandon" their property. Secondly, my caches, like the rest of the property I own (much of which will be around for a long time) is not trash, to me or to anyone else. Anyone who may think they are trash, are ignorantly mistaken.

What actually are you attempting to resolve here? In the whole scheme of this complex world, do you really have a problem with a tupperware container being left in the woods?

I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me.

1.1k · November 1, 2003

And to think that all this time I have been going to humor websites to read some funny stuff.

I think i will just stay right here instead.

More.

I need to read more jokes from some sockpuppet!

Way to funny.

And it is even a "dirty" sockpuppet.

logscaler.

"Why shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction?

Fiction, after all, has to make sense."

Mark Twain.

November 1, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger88:
Maybe instead of using ammo cans, tupperware and plastic film canisters somebody should think about milk cartons, small cereal boxes (variety pack) and paper match boxes. At least these things will decompose if they are abandoned.

And, if NOT abandoned, they WON'T decompose! LOL.

Hey, you had a good run for your money there. Tell us who you are and take the applause for a great wind up.....

Only nuts eat squirrels,

Snake

6.5k · November 1, 2003

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Originally posted by ju66l3r:
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Come on, before anyone else responds to this obvious troll of a post with anything even closely resembling sincerity, do the mods think they could actually do something more than slapping Jomarac around and demask this sock puppet, scooby-style?

...

Its either beat a dead horse, or play with a troll, there has to be something to do.

They're slapping Jomarc around?!! Where are these threads?? those are the ones I want to be reading!

3k · November 1, 2003

I'm sorry, but if I come home from geocaching and I'm not tired and dirty, it means I probably didn't have any fun at all.

1.9k · November 1, 2003

Gotta be a windup.

TeamX40 my username says I,m a Troll.

Can I keep on Trolling ?

1.4k · November 1, 2003

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welch wrote:
They're slapping Jomarac around?!! Where are these threads?? those are the ones I want to be reading!

Me too.

*****

November 1, 2003

We like our game the way it is and if you've come to change it, find another type game to mess with. We'll play ours and you play yours.

Just don't make your game GEOCACHING!

it's 5 o'clock somewhere!!

22k · November 1, 2003

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Originally posted by Cave Troll & Joan:
Gotta be a windup.

TeamX40 my username says I,m a Troll.

Can I keep on Trolling ?

ok by me! This is probably the safest place to play with a troll.

Get too close and you get grabbed. "I will keep you and pet you and name you George!"

2.1k · November 1, 2003

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Originally posted by Jomarac5:

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welch wrote:
They're slapping Jomarac around?!! Where are these threads?? those are the ones I want to be reading!

Me too.

Oh, come on, J.

In the grand history of moderation here, I think you're the only one who has actually had their posting privileges temporarily revoked for a week.

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Arrr, there be smurfs ta smurf.

1.4k · November 1, 2003

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ju66l3r wrote:
In the grand history of moderation here, I think you're the only one who has actually had their posting privileges temporarily revoked for a week.

You're far too kind. Don't forget that RobertM shares that distinction equally with me.

*****

2.5k · November 1, 2003

I would check the "star" ratings on the cache pages and pick an easier one for your first cache. Once you find that first one, your opinion will most likely change. Welcome to geocaching.

November 1, 2003

I don't know whether to Yawn or laugh my butt off.

"The more I study nature, the more I am amazed at the Creator."

- Louis Pasteur

1.3k · November 1, 2003

If this is a serious concern, (I doubt it. It stinks of trolling.) you need to know a few things. You are not the first environmentally attuned person to attack geocaching. I can imagine these people, past and present, gleefully finding "evidence" of environmental harm associated with geocaching, and hoping to spoil the fun of others in order feel as if they have "made a difference".

Geocaching, if done responsibly, has no more impact than any of hundreds of other outdoor pursuits. Anyone can see this. It is, however, not yet a mainstream outdoor activity. The fact that it is still growing, changing, and gaining acceptance might make it seem like a vulnerable target for environmentalists wishing to "make their mark". The ironic thing is, if geocaching were eliminated entirely, it would matter little compared to activities like backcountry camping, hiking, ATV's, etc.

If you truly wish to make a difference, work to ban these high impact activities before you go after a sport that has almost no environmental consequences by comparison.

I'm sure you realize that people will probably laugh in your face if you tell them to stop camping. Millions of people worldwide have been camping outdoors for thousands of years. That's a pretty daunting task, attacking a time honored tradition. Caching on the other hand, is relatively new, and environmental grumblings might have a better chance of being taken seriously in this case. So, like the opportunistic predator, the environmental wackos attack the weakest animal in the herd of outdoor pursuits. Not very valiant. They should be ashamed of their cowardice, and gain respect by going after the real polluters. Fight a tough battle, one you might stand no chance of winning. Go after big oil companies, or something. Leave the family friendly pursuits of your (environmenally aware) geocaching brothers alone.

I would like to see all of the geocaches weighed upon a balance, with all of the trash cachers have removed. You will likely find that the tons of unsightly trash taken out of our forests and wildlands is vast compared to the few game pieces carefully placed to blend with the environment.

If all of the geocaches were placed according to your standards of ready visibility, they would constitute a horrble eyesore. Perhaps you have a hidden agenda, to make caches visible so other environmentalists will readily see them as out of place, rather than in harmony with the environment.

And finally, dirt. We are all made of the same stuff. Molecules and atoms combined to form complex materials. The same particles that make up the dirt you so abhorr, are the very essence of your being, and that of everything in the world you seek to protect. Before you worry about getting dirt on yourself, worry about getting yourelf on the planet.

[This message was edited by Bloencustoms on March 32, 1999 at 25:60 PM]

1.2k · November 1, 2003

Nothing to see here folks, return to your homes, move along.....

"Afghanistan was a battle. Iraq was a battle. The war goes on."

November 1, 2003

Cereal boxes?!?!?!?!?!

ROFL!!!!!!

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38.2k · November 1, 2003

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Maybe instead of using ammo cans, tupperware and plastic film canisters somebody should think about milk cartons, small cereal boxes (variety pack) and paper match boxes. At least these things will decompose if they are abandoned. The plastic and metal caches that are being hidden now will be around for a long, long time. It may be treasure to a geocacher, but it's trash to anyone else.

I'm assuming this guy is a troll and I really hate to fall for it, but if he isn't then he's definitely not the quickest clam in the bushel.

"You can't make a man by standing a sheep on his hind legs. But by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" - Max Beerbohm

November 1, 2003

I think your opening words say it all, " I might be wrong"! Go with you first instinct. If you think you might be you probably are. " WRONG YOU ARE! I'm relatively new to this too. I've found ten caches in the past couple weeks, planted one of my own too. Getting out and WALKING, is good for you, so you might get a little dirty, take a towel and wipe your hands, get help for your arachnaphobia, wear gloves, or take up another pursuit. Leave Geocaching to us that enjoy it for what it is.

November 1, 2003

We visited several caches in/around a neighboring town today and found a handful that had been "hid" by the same person. most of these met your suggested "requirements." They were above ground, they were not covered by any found material, and they were roughly head-high so no "irritating" stooping was required.

Unfortunately, each cache was visible from the car.

I prefer a little more challenge. I also know how to use hand soap and I'm not afraid of water.

I'd suggest that you stick to caches involving magnetic keyboxes. I'll keep poking through the leaves and pinestraw, thank you.

3.8k · November 1, 2003

speechless

==============="If it feels good...do it"================

**(the other 9 out of 10 voices in my head say: "Don't do it.")**

.

November 2, 2003

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Caches should be hidden in a place that is visible to a person standing up

There's a game that's really a lot like geocaching that many of us have played that exactly follows your suggestions! It's called "Easter Egg Hunt". Here's how you play it - you take eggs, you hard boil them, and then dye them bright colors. You then put the eggs in places where they'll be hidden - but not too hard to find! It requires a lot of creativity, especially the part where you get to dye the eggs pretty colors. I bet you'd really like this game - maybe you should try it! (And think about it, since the eggs are organic, if they aren't found, they'll eventually decompose and disappear.)

2.6k · November 2, 2003

ROTFLMAO

And I bet someone else is also. its too funny has to be a troll.

Oh and by the way today 11/2/03 is the first day I have been able log onto the forums in over a week. Sure glad there's SCGC.

All who look are not lost

November 2, 2003

[This message was edited by Cruzin! on November 03, 2003 at 10:23 AM.]

November 2, 2003

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Originally posted by ju66l3r:
I'm convinced. In fact, my first geocache that I plan on hiding tomorrow will now be a sheet of natural paper and three acorns for trade items. These things will be placed in a pre-wetted empty toilet-paper tube.

Additional hints:

Ybbx sbe gur 3 lbhat fncyvatf wbvarq ng gur tebhaq.

November 3, 2003

Since you don't like getting dirty and you wish tochange this sport here are some suggestions on changing other sports, mainly because they are to violent and dirty:

Football(American, not the overseas soccer version) Wrap them all up in charmins tp since it is soft. play on a giant down filled pillow. No Tackling you have to tap them on the shoulder. The ball can be a bit hard if inflated to much so to be safe use a nerf sponge ball. If a single cloud in the sky whether rain or not cancel the game.

With those new rules that should make football more enjoyable by more people to play. That way we can all be profeesional fotball players and make millions a year.

My $0.00 cents worth . Since that is how much I value this thread.

GeoCache Pickup Line: Hey I'm looking for treasure, Can I look around your chest?

5.7k · November 3, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger88:
- Caches should not require moving rocks, plants or ground cover.

- Caches should not be placed under water.

- Caches should be hidden in a place that is visible to a person standing up.

If this had been posted on April 1st, I would have assumed this was a good joke.

quote:
I don't especially want to get dirty or disturb the environment.

I'm afraid that geocaching is not a pastime you will enjoy if you don't enjoy getting dirty, getting stickers, ticks, chiggers, poison oak, thirsty, hot, cold, wet, etc., etc.

Limiting the possible hiding methods, and thus the creativity of the cache hider, would be a bad idea. It would take a lot of fun and challenge away from geocaching.

--Marky

...Be nice to your fellow geocachers, they might be Hemlock...

Geocaching - a filthy habit?

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