Geocaching.com site update May 4th 2011

[+msrubble]

clicking on forum username results in: "Sorry. You must first log in to view this profile."

 

Right. Did you try logging in at that point? I just logged in by clicking on your username. I had to log in to the forums, and then log on to geocaching.com.

 

Sorry the other two routes didn't work for you.

[+Frank Broughton]

"Save as default" when editing a cache page doesn't stick. Each time I edit a listing I have to check both of these boxes.

 

 

One other thing, the box for editing the short description of a listing only allows me to display three lines of text at a time.

 

WinXP with Firefox 4.0.1.

 

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

 

I think the "Save as default" options are a 3rd party Greasemonkey extention, aren't they?

 

Yes it is.... and a good one, should be stock!

[jholly]

Original maps still broken.

 

display some random group of caches.

enable personalization (no finds, no hides)

pan display.

the personalization still shows selected, but finds and hides show at the new pan

have to turn off personalization and turn it back on

 

Can we fix it so once set personalization is sticky? That would be appreciated.

O/S Vista Browser FF 3.6.17

Edited May 8, 2011 by jholly

[+mpilchfamily]

The personalization of the map seems to be all over the place. I keep hearing people having problems with it yet i haven't had this problem. I've used 4 different PCs in 4 different locations. I've used the latest version of Firefox, Beta version of Firefox, IE8 and the latest version of Chrome. If its some sort of regional problem then i'm not seeing it either. I live and work in MD but the IP for our PCs at work bounce back as several different locations. It will either show as Florida, Texas, or Colorado. I've zoomed out of the map and moved to a different state and zoomed in checking out caches then move back up to my home location and the smilies still show and in the correct place. Only problem i have is having to check the Personalize box every time i pull up the map. Even if i navigate away from the map page and come back i have to check the box again. But while on the map i don't loose the smilies.

[+Bambography]

I'm using the new Date format choice however it isn't being used on the PMO cache view Audit log. Still US date format. Most confusing!

[jholly]

The personalization of the map seems to be all over the place. I keep hearing people having problems with it yet i haven't had this problem. I've used 4 different PCs in 4 different locations. I've used the latest version of Firefox, Beta version of Firefox, IE8 and the latest version of Chrome. If its some sort of regional problem then i'm not seeing it either. I live and work in MD but the IP for our PCs at work bounce back as several different locations. It will either show as Florida, Texas, or Colorado. I've zoomed out of the map and moved to a different state and zoomed in checking out caches then move back up to my home location and the smilies still show and in the correct place. Only problem i have is having to check the Personalize box every time i pull up the map. Even if i navigate away from the map page and come back i have to check the box again. But while on the map i don't loose the smilies.

which map are you talking about, Original or Beta? You will note that I said Original. The Betas seem to work correctly with personalization but they ignore my ignore list. That is why I don't use them.

 

It would be nice if you read the post carefully, understand what is being talked about before you chime in that the world is a bowl of cream and cherries.

[+mpilchfamily]

The personalization of the map seems to be all over the place. I keep hearing people having problems with it yet i haven't had this problem. I've used 4 different PCs in 4 different locations. I've used the latest version of Firefox, Beta version of Firefox, IE8 and the latest version of Chrome. If its some sort of regional problem then i'm not seeing it either. I live and work in MD but the IP for our PCs at work bounce back as several different locations. It will either show as Florida, Texas, or Colorado. I've zoomed out of the map and moved to a different state and zoomed in checking out caches then move back up to my home location and the smilies still show and in the correct place. Only problem i have is having to check the Personalize box every time i pull up the map. Even if i navigate away from the map page and come back i have to check the box again. But while on the map i don't loose the smilies.

which map are you talking about, Original or Beta? You will note that I said Original. The Betas seem to work correctly with personalization but they ignore my ignore list. That is why I don't use them.

 

It would be nice if you read the post carefully, understand what is being talked about before you chime in that the world is a bowl of cream and cherries.

Both! I haven't had any problems with either for the past 2 or 3 days. Sure there where some issues with the original maps soon after the site update but no problems recently.

[jholly]

The personalization of the map seems to be all over the place. I keep hearing people having problems with it yet i haven't had this problem. I've used 4 different PCs in 4 different locations. I've used the latest version of Firefox, Beta version of Firefox, IE8 and the latest version of Chrome. If its some sort of regional problem then i'm not seeing it either. I live and work in MD but the IP for our PCs at work bounce back as several different locations. It will either show as Florida, Texas, or Colorado. I've zoomed out of the map and moved to a different state and zoomed in checking out caches then move back up to my home location and the smilies still show and in the correct place. Only problem i have is having to check the Personalize box every time i pull up the map. Even if i navigate away from the map page and come back i have to check the box again. But while on the map i don't loose the smilies.

which map are you talking about, Original or Beta? You will note that I said Original. The Betas seem to work correctly with personalization but they ignore my ignore list. That is why I don't use them.

 

It would be nice if you read the post carefully, understand what is being talked about before you chime in that the world is a bowl of cream and cherries.

Both! I haven't had any problems with either for the past 2 or 3 days. Sure there where some issues with the original maps soon after the site update but no problems recently.

Well then you have special blessings. Must be nice.

[+Don_J]

Original maps still broken.

 

display some random group of caches.

enable personalization (no finds, no hides)

pan display.

the personalization still shows selected, but finds and hides show at the new pan

have to turn off personalization and turn it back on

 

Can we fix it so once set personalization is sticky? That would be appreciated.

O/S Vista Browser FF 3.6.17

 

I'm experiencing the same behavior.

XPSP3

FF 3.6.17

[+curious4cache]

clicking on forum username results in: "Sorry. You must first log in to view this profile."

 

Right. Did you try logging in at that point? I just logged in by clicking on your username. I had to log in to the forums, and then log on to geocaching.com.

 

Sorry the other two routes didn't work for you.

 

Willing to try most anything at this point...

clicked on your username, got the "sorry..." page

tried logging in as you suggest

got the "sorry..." page again

 

Spinning in infinity here! Caught in an endless loop...

[+addisonbr]

On the old maps, you could click on a cache icon and load it to your GPSr using just the little summary pop-up. The new beta maps don't have this feature. Now if you want to load a cache into you GPSr you have to actually go to the cache page. This really slows down the process. We're disappointed that this functionality was lost.

why you even bother doing that when you're a premium member and can run PQ?

I'm a PM and I like loading caches into my GPSr directly from the maps as well. I can be a lot more granular about targeting a specific location, and it can take a lot less time than generating a new PQ. Couple of clicks and I'm done, easy-peasy.

[+curious4cache]

Not sure if my problem is related to this. I can (obviously) log into forums successfully. However, all three accounts in my household (myself and two daughters) can't log onto main geocaching.com site.

 

I had this problem too and finally resolved it last night. I had the problem in IE8 and IE9 on one computer, but no issue in FF4 on the same computer, or IE8 on another.

 

The symptoms I had were that I would properly type in my user name and password, but I would be redirected back to the login page (if there), or the main page with the box at the top would continue to show me as a visitor.

 

I finally found out that I had added GC.com to my list of trusted websites (must have been long ago for another reason) in IE. Once I removed it from the list of trusted sites, I was able to log in and stay logged in. :-) Seems like something in the "Trusted sites" zone of the security tab in IE tools->Internet options was preventing the logging in from sticking.

 

Thank You Thank You Thank You!

Had this same exact problem starting 5/7/11, spent much of the day today on the forums... applying suggestions

 

Finally found your post and... PROBLEM RESOLVED

 

Is this related to recent upgrade, or fixes on it?

how odd (and how horribly frustrating) not to be able to log into the GC.com site

[+Dgwphotos]

Not sure if my problem is related to this. I can (obviously) log into forums successfully. However, all three accounts in my household (myself and two daughters) can't log onto main geocaching.com site.

 

I had this problem too and finally resolved it last night. I had the problem in IE8 and IE9 on one computer, but no issue in FF4 on the same computer, or IE8 on another.

 

The symptoms I had were that I would properly type in my user name and password, but I would be redirected back to the login page (if there), or the main page with the box at the top would continue to show me as a visitor.

 

I finally found out that I had added GC.com to my list of trusted websites (must have been long ago for another reason) in IE. Once I removed it from the list of trusted sites, I was able to log in and stay logged in. :-) Seems like something in the "Trusted sites" zone of the security tab in IE tools->Internet options was preventing the logging in from sticking.

 

Thank You Thank You Thank You!

Had this same exact problem starting 5/7/11, spent much of the day today on the forums... applying suggestions

 

Finally found your post and... PROBLEM RESOLVED

 

Is this related to recent upgrade, or fixes on it?

how odd (and how horribly frustrating) not to be able to log into the GC.com site

 

That issue is not related to the site update, as it existed before. I had that problem myself a while ago.

[+t4e]

 

I can give you one example of this. Boss walks into my office and says, "drive to town X" which happens to be 60 miles from office. Boss knows that I cache and allows me to grab a cache after I complete the job (note I don't charge for the time I am caching) I have no way of knowing which town town X is going to be as I am an emergency responder.

I don't have time to run a PQ and I am not allowed to have GSAK on my work computer. I can however pull up the map, and quickly send 2 caches to my GPS. Very easy and quick.

 

Not everyone caches in the same way and for me the I have less then 5 minutes usually to get out the door after my pager goes off. Speed is necessary.

 

what GPS do you have?

 

 

I'm a PM and I like loading caches into my GPSr directly from the maps as well. I can be a lot more granular about targeting a specific location, and it can take a lot less time than generating a new PQ. Couple of clicks and I'm done, easy-peasy.

 

i really have a hard time seeing how that is more efficient, but whatever works for you

Edited May 9, 2011 by t4e

[+addisonbr]

i really have a hard time seeing how that is more efficient, but whatever works for you

For me it mostly boils down to (1) not having to figure out what settings will generate just the couple of caches I've ID'd on a map, and (2) not having to wait for the PQ to run or bump up against the daily PQ limit. I see it, I click it, and I walk out the door.

[Raver Dave]

Have to say it's rare I use PQ's (apart from the My Finds one), I'll run one every few weeks to a month just to make sure my GSAK database is up up to date and if I'm going away some where then I'll run one for that area to use with GSAK / Memory Map on the laptop.

 

For day to day local caching I still use the main map to decide where to go and fire them over as needed.

[knowschad]

I rarely use the Send to GPS feature from the maps, because I prefer the formatting that GSAK does for me, but I did often use the Bookmark option that was on the old style maps balloon and is now also missing. I would use that to easily build a bookmark list that I would then turn into a Pocket Query. Now, to do that, I have to actually go in to each cache page to bookmark the cache.

[+t4e]

I rarely use the Send to GPS feature from the maps, because I prefer the formatting that GSAK does for me, but I did often use the Bookmark option that was on the old style maps balloon and is now also missing. I would use that to easily build a bookmark list that I would then turn into a Pocket Query. Now, to do that, I have to actually go in to each cache page to bookmark the cache.

 

is it? i see that option present on both maps

 

 

[OpinioNate]

Thanks for continuing to comment on the release. We are reviewing all your suggestions and complaints here as well as in User Voice.

 

I just wanted to take a moment to share with you this graph displaying weekend performance for the last 6 weeks. As you can see the database has, at times, been pegged at nearly 100% during our busiest periods.

 

Now I will direct your attention to the bold orange line representing database performance since our upgrade last Wednesday. It's a beautiful thing.

 

 

We will not let this success make us complacent, however. The team is laser-focused on improving site functionality as well as performance going forward.

[+irlpguy]

Well I echo the majority of the users that are not at all impressed with the improvements to the site. In particular the fixed width really has caused nothing but problems and work to resolve. Any cache page I have which used a picture larger than the 670 has been reduced in size and subsequently everything on the cache page is changed. I have 14 new cache pages and caches to list, after loading one of them and seeing what happens to it when viewed I am likely to NOT even bother.

 

This is a huge step backward. "WHY" fix the width at this narrow format? Please tell me this will be changed to something larger that works on a larger screen. White, White and more White - enough already.

 

Really HQ do I have to put up with advertising on my cache page.

 

I am not a fan of the new Beta maps, but don't use them all that often so can live with them provided changes are made.

 

Quite a number of my cache pages now look like crap, it would be nice if you let us all know how to resolve these issues without huge expenditures of time on our part. I will certainly be holding off on any new listings till this fixed witdth gets FIXED.

[+AndrewRJ]

 

I can give you one example of this. Boss walks into my office and says, "drive to town X" which happens to be 60 miles from office. Boss knows that I cache and allows me to grab a cache after I complete the job (note I don't charge for the time I am caching) I have no way of knowing which town town X is going to be as I am an emergency responder.

I don't have time to run a PQ and I am not allowed to have GSAK on my work computer. I can however pull up the map, and quickly send 2 caches to my GPS. Very easy and quick.

 

Not everyone caches in the same way and for me the I have less then 5 minutes usually to get out the door after my pager goes off. Speed is necessary.

 

what GPS do you have?

 

I have a 60CX, would love to upgrade but that isn't in the budget right now.

[+AndrewRJ]

Thanks for continuing to comment on the release. We are reviewing all your suggestions and complaints here as well as in User Voice.

 

I just wanted to take a moment to share with you this graph displaying weekend performance for the last 6 weeks. As you can see the database has, at times, been pegged at nearly 100% during our busiest periods.

 

Now I will direct your attention to the bold orange line representing database performance since our upgrade last Wednesday. It's a beautiful thing.

 

 

We will not let this success make us complacent, however. The team is laser-focused on improving site functionality as well as performance going forward.

That is a massive change! Very impressive.

[+Bowlr]

Without reading every last post here, I have a problem or rather a question.

When the Beta map comes up for me, I see the map, then that goes grey on me and then all I see are all the caches on the map and no streets. No idea why. Is there something I need to turn on or something I need to do? If no answer, is thee a way I can just go to the original map without going thru the Beta map?

Other than that, it is just a matter of time before I get used to all the other features that have changed.

[+DCMG]

Not sure if my problem is related to this. I can (obviously) log into forums successfully. However, all three accounts in my household (myself and two daughters) can't log onto main geocaching.com site.

 

I had this problem too and finally resolved it last night. I had the problem in IE8 and IE9 on one computer, but no issue in FF4 on the same computer, or IE8 on another.

 

The symptoms I had were that I would properly type in my user name and password, but I would be redirected back to the login page (if there), or the main page with the box at the top would continue to show me as a visitor.

 

I finally found out that I had added GC.com to my list of trusted websites (must have been long ago for another reason) in IE. Once I removed it from the list of trusted sites, I was able to log in and stay logged in. :-) Seems like something in the "Trusted sites" zone of the security tab in IE tools->Internet options was preventing the logging in from sticking.

 

Thank You Thank You Thank You!

Had this same exact problem starting 5/7/11, spent much of the day today on the forums... applying suggestions

 

Finally found your post and... PROBLEM RESOLVED

 

Is this related to recent upgrade, or fixes on it?

how odd (and how horribly frustrating) not to be able to log into the GC.com site

 

You are quite welcome. For me it only started to happen since the site upgrade. I've never had this problem before.

 

--DCMG

[+DanPan]

[deleted]

Edited May 9, 2011 by DanPan

[+GammaPiSigma]

I had to replace the html tables I was using on my Archangel (http://coord.info/GC1AATC) cache.

 

Forcing all tables to 100% width is not a good idea as it completely destroyed the formatting which was essential in defining the type of puzzle. I had to replace the html with an image as it didn't matter what I tried the html parser just overwrote every style I applied with the pre-defined styles. Not good.

[+IdaLabs]

I'm having problems with notifications from geocaching.com I noticed earlier that I had received a text on a new cache, but not an email. I'm set up for both and I'd received both types of notifications on other caches today. Just now, I received two texts that the cache had been found (it's on my watchlist) by two different cachers, but the log message was the same on each. Looking at the cache page, the second cacher had not even logged it. Anyone else experiencing anything like this?

[+Folboter JAF]

Please get rid of the fixed width! Not only does it look terrible because of all the whitespace, but it's an incredible waste of space! Each cache listed in my profile (and in other lists) takes up several lines, and I have to do so much scrolling to get to the bottom of every cache page I look at. Please put it back to fluid width!

[+mrcanoehead224]

Not sure if my problem is related to this. I can (obviously) log into forums successfully. However, all three accounts in my household (myself and two daughters) can't log onto main geocaching.com site.

I had this problem too and finally resolved it last night. I had the problem in IE8 and IE9 on one computer, but no issue in FF4 on the same computer, or IE8 on another.

 

The symptoms I had were that I would properly type in my user name and password, but I would be redirected back to the login page (if there), or the main page with the box at the top would continue to show me as a visitor.

 

I finally found out that I had added GC.com to my list of trusted websites (must have been long ago for another reason) in IE. Once I removed it from the list of trusted sites, I was able to log in and stay logged in. :-) Seems like something in the "Trusted sites" zone of the security tab in IE tools->Internet options was preventing the logging in from sticking.

Thank You Thank You Thank You!

Had this same exact problem starting 5/7/11, spent much of the day today on the forums... applying suggestions

 

Finally found your post and... PROBLEM RESOLVED

 

Is this related to recent upgrade, or fixes on it?

how odd (and how horribly frustrating) not to be able to log into the GC.com site

You are quite welcome. For me it only started to happen since the site upgrade. I've never had this problem before.

 

--DCMG

well, that was incredibly simple. I've been so busy that I only had the chance to look again now for resolutions. Didn't even need to start my browser, opened a new tab in IE8 and opened GC page, already logged in!

Thanks everyone!

[+Olddffart]

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Edited May 10, 2011 by Olddffart

[+Olddffart]

Something else several of us have noticed the last few days - we are not getting New Published Notifications until 2-4 hrs. after they are published.

Anyone else seeing this ??

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[+The Trekbuddies]

could we have the old maps as default untill the new maps are fixed, new cache goes live , look at the map its not there , switch to old maps there it is.

@olddffart i also expect the 2 to 4 hour delay in new Published Notifications listings is to give the new maps time to cache the new listings as they are cached and not live.

As for the fixed width there is nothing to say that hasn't already been said, is this new white space going to be filled with advertising? , if you dont like fixed width or advertising on your listing , host them on your own webspace and link to it on the listing, although if they didnt try to fix something that wasn't broke this would not be needed.

It will be interesting to see how Groundspeak play this out , will they listen to their customers or will it just be tough!

[+edscott]

Until the beta maps are totally functional why not make the original maps the default setup?

[+Lil Devil]

Until the beta maps are totally functional why not make the original maps the default setup?

It's a performance thing. The old maps are very hard on the database, while the new maps are light and easy. In order to keep the site running well for everyone, they made the new maps the default. You can always click to get the old maps, but I suspect only a small percentage of people really need all the functionality of the old maps, so they keep strumming along with the new maps.

[+addisonbr]

It's a performance thing. The old maps are very hard on the database, while the new maps are light and easy. In order to keep the site running well for everyone, they made the new maps the default. You can always click to get the old maps, but I suspect only a small percentage of people really need all the functionality of the old maps, so they keep strumming along with the new maps.

That seems like a pretty good trade-off. Default to the beta maps which are computationally cheap but only 99.X% accurate. But retain the option to switch to a more expensive map that closes the gap on the remaining fraction - if you need it.

[+JBnW]

Is the site running at all right now (1320 US-Central)?

[+fuzziebear3]

Is the site running at all right now (1320 US-Central)?

 

Nope, I can't get to my profile page now ... I get an error.

[+fuzziebear3]

Is the site running at all right now (1320 US-Central)?

 

Nope, I can't get to my profile page now ... I get an error.

 

Ok, now it's back again. Either a quick fix, or there is an instability.

[+Bowlr]

Am I the only one that don't see the GC number on the cache page now?

[+Semper Questio]

Am I the only one that don't see the GC number on the cache page now?

 

I'm seeing it fine on Chrome under Win 7.

[+Artemis&Apollo]

I just noticed that the map on the cache page has lost its map-controls. I can’t zoom in/out or switch from map view to satellite view. WinXP/Chrome & IE8.

 

Is this another ‘save resources’ take-away?

 

 

[+The Jester]

Has any one else noticed that the blue bar on the count to next favorite point (on log page) is counting backwards? It used to get taller (grow upwards) as you logged caches, now it starts full up and gets shorter - or is it the grey bar growing downwards?

[+dbox]

I just noticed that the map on the cache page has lost its map-controls. I can’t zoom in/out or switch from map view to satellite view. WinXP/Chrome & IE8.

 

Is this another ‘save resources’ take-away?

 

 

 

The same is here! So these maps are useless!

[+De Wijngemachtigde]

Perhaps it has been mentioned before, I did not read through the entire thread, but I found that when the additional hint is long, it mixes up with the decrypting key, for instance in this cache. Something to fix for the next update.

[+cajunabear]

Not sure if this is on the radar but the "Pocket Queries ready for download" tab page does keep pocket queries that are set to run once and then delete for the 7 days. I have not had the opportunity to see if that is true of all Pocket Query settings.

[+dfx]

Not sure if this is on the radar but the "Pocket Queries ready for download" tab page does keep pocket queries that are set to run once and then delete for the 7 days. I have not had the opportunity to see if that is true of all Pocket Query settings.

 

That has been true ever since they introduced the "for download only" PQs.

[+colin&daddy]

I just noticed that the map on the cache page has lost its map-controls. I can’t zoom in/out or switch from map view to satellite view. WinXP/Chrome & IE8.

 

Is this another ‘save resources’ take-away?

 

 

 

The same is here! So these maps are useless!

 

A week in and this update is going from screwed up to halfway better to a whole lot worse. I would venture to say that map functionality is just about at the top of the list of priorities for a whole lot of cachers. I don't really care what the page layout looks like, although the fixed width and the obtrusive backgrounds are ill-considered at best and downright insulting at worst. But removing zoom and switch type functions is incomprehensible. Could one of the official Groundspeak reps please let us know what the plan is with the maps?

[jholly]

A week in and this update is going from screwed up to halfway better to a whole lot worse. I would venture to say that map functionality is just about at the top of the list of priorities for a whole lot of cachers. I don't really care what the page layout looks like, although the fixed width and the obtrusive backgrounds are ill-considered at best and downright insulting at worst. But removing zoom and switch type functions is incomprehensible. Could one of the official Groundspeak reps please let us know what the plan is with the maps?

I have to agree. We seem to be going backwards. I'm glad to hear the performance graph is a nice thing to look at, but the maps are not a nice thing to look at. The beta's are not really usable and the originals are broken is so many ways. Can we get the float back on the originals? That stupid fixed width really makes those maps suck and they are the only thing that is close to working. I keep going back to the thoughts that there are so many things on the feedback site that were top issues and not one of them was a new UI. Why do you continually ignore what is being asked for and give us something we did not ask for and which seems to upset a large number of people? I have noticed in this thread there are a lot of folks that have been around for a while and have not posted before but now their first post is expressing their displeasure of the site. Others that have been around for a while with only a couple posts are also expressing displeasure. It would be nice to hear what direction we are going.

[+Hobo2]

I love the new look and the ease of use, great job! The only thing I have an issue with is the "Feedback" tab sticking way out there... kinda annoying!

[+purple_pineapple]

I'm noticing some very strange behaviour in Chrome - namely trying to log a cache through the 'Log Your Visit' link on the cache page. It doesn't display any of the logging fields, and just has an advert in the middle of the screen instead...

 

I can try and post a screen shot if it helps... anyone else seeing this?