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Posted (edited)

Geocaching.com is receiving a hotfix momentarily to correct the following issues:

 

  • Find logs and hidden caches show up on Maps Beta after 5 minutes, down from 15
  • Smiley icons have slightly modified to add contrast
  • yyyy-MM-dd and dd/mm/yyyy date format options added to profile settings
  • PMO cache icons on Maps Beta no longer appear in a different color than their typical cache type counterparts, the shape remains a circle to distinguish from regular caches
  • Added PMO caches to the Maps Beta legend
  • PMO caches are now hidden on Maps Beta for basic members when zoom is below level 13 (the point at which icons grow larger)
  • Favorites counts were added to Maps Beta cache info bubbles

 

Thanks!

And what about http://feedback.geocaching.com/forums/75863-report-a-problem/suggestions/1786013-html-misinterpretation ???

Edited by Rhialto
Posted

Geocaching.com is receiving a hotfix momentarily to correct the following issues:

 

  • <snip>

 

Thanks!

 

Some good improvements.

I find that when found caches are hidden I still get the mouseover tooltip.

In crowded areas this makes it difficult to mouseover the desired unfound cache.

 

(Are the fixed width survey results going to be published?)

Posted

I love the new look and the ease of use, great job! The only thing I have an issue with is the "Feedback" tab sticking way out there... kinda annoying!

 

I took care of that with two clicks! (hint Firefox w/ adblock plus and adblock plus element hider)

 

Shouldn't have to. Very few geocachers are tech savvy enough to even know what you are talking about, much less, to do it.

 

Really - I think they are!

Posted

Since the geocaching site update, I've been paying more attention to some of the sites I view regularly. The NY Times, Washington Post and Philadephia Inquirer all seem to use a fixed width. So do CNN, ESPN and Nascar.(snip)

 

All three of those sites are terrible looking and working too!

Posted (edited)

I love the new look and the ease of use, great job! The only thing I have an issue with is the "Feedback" tab sticking way out there... kinda annoying!

 

I took care of that with two clicks! (hint Firefox w/ adblock plus and adblock plus element hider)

 

Shouldn't have to. Very few geocachers are tech savvy enough to even know what you are talking about, much less, to do it.

 

I have to agree... I have used adblock plus to get rid of the word "Feedback" but am still left with an empty green box sticking out over the first characters in the line! How do I get rid of the box as well please??

 

Chris

 

Ahh... solved by installing the element hider extension to AdBolck Plus and reading the user notes.

 

Thanks Frank,

 

Chris

Edited by Matthew 7:7 Too
Posted

The personalisation of the beta maps doesn't remember the personalisation when I leave the page. On the original maps, the problem that the personalisation doesn't even get remembered when zooming in/out and moving the map is still not fixed.

I'm using FF 4.X

 

i can't replicate that, the personalization is there whatever i do, navigate away from the page, zoom in and out

 

not sure what you're referring to

Posted

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Now that the Beta Maps have became the default maps it’s a little hard to think of them as ‘beta’. Would Groundspeak at least add a toolbar to the beta maps so that we don’t have to keep going back to the Original (non-beta) Maps to navigate the website?

Posted

I love the new look and the ease of use, great job! The only thing I have an issue with is the "Feedback" tab sticking way out there... kinda annoying!

 

I took care of that with two clicks! (hint Firefox w/ adblock plus and adblock plus element hider)

 

Shouldn't have to. Very few geocachers are tech savvy enough to even know what you are talking about, much less, to do it.

 

Really - I think they are!

Frank, there are a lot of us around here that have never had anything to do with what makes a computer tick. We just use what we have and feel that it should work as advertised and not get screwed up in the name of "progress". I never "upgrade" anything on my computer as long as it's still working for me, mainly because I don't understand how to fix it if it screws up. And I've never before heard of adblock - I can only guess what it is by the context of your sentence. My latest cache (GC2R4D5), which I realize that you would classify it as basic and quite simple to do, took me 6 hr. of trial and error, etc., to get it looking like it does. And that was before Geocaching.com screwed things up!!!.

Posted

Thanks for another Hotfix. I like the new way of distinguishing PMO caches with circles instead of squares much better than the gold icons.

 

Also much thanks for making Personalization on by default.

Posted

I’m not going to get into the argument about fixed layout. I accept that that is Groundspeak’s choice. The problem is that we cache owners have been allowed to play a part in the web page design for our caches and this fixed layout change has had a negative impact on our designs; specifically the background image. It would be nice if Groundspeak would incorporate our backgrounds into their fixed layout design (i.e. provide a border around the fixed layout that resembles the appearance that used to exist rather than having the background spread from wall to wall on the screen). I think that would take care of most of the objections.

 

Anyway, I have removed all custom backgrounds from all of our caches because they look so awful with the new fixed layout design. I have been replacing the backgrounds with a simple Groundspeak green background that I think improves the overall look of the page.

 

Here is a example: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=71eb5dc7-4da4-479b-bff0-0b88f670c84a

 

If you would like to use our green background it is:

http://img.geocaching.com/cache/d30f1159-698a-4431-892f-b5b4ca44f860.jpg

Posted

I’m not going to get into the argument about fixed layout. I accept that that is Groundspeak’s choice. The problem is that we cache owners have been allowed to play a part in the web page design for our caches and this fixed layout change has had a negative impact on our designs; specifically the background image. It would be nice if Groundspeak would incorporate our backgrounds into their fixed layout design (i.e. provide a border around the fixed layout that resembles the appearance that used to exist rather than having the background spread from wall to wall on the screen). I think that would take care of most of the objections.

 

Anyway, I have removed all custom backgrounds from all of our caches because they look so awful with the new fixed layout design. I have been replacing the backgrounds with a simple Groundspeak green background that I think improves the overall look of the page.

 

Here is a example: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=71eb5dc7-4da4-479b-bff0-0b88f670c84a

 

If you would like to use our green background it is:

http://img.geocaching.com/cache/d30f1159-698a-4431-892f-b5b4ca44f860.jpg

 

Nice. Thanks for sharing the link for the color. It looks way better than all the white.

I just wish they would get rid of fixed width.

Posted (edited)

Fixed width is one thing, but why should that require us losing the ability to choose the width of an element?

 

I had some partial-width DIVs

<div style="float:right; width:45%">...</div>

which are now full-width for no reason I can fathom. They worked perfectly fine at any width!

 

That nested-DIVs trick somebody mentioned above didn't work for me, so I have to resort to complaining. You think I like that?

Edited by Viajero Perdido
Posted

On a positive note, I see you've been tinkering with the site CSS. My profile suddenly only looks half as bad as it did a few days earlier, and I haven't touched a thing.

 

I'll wait a few more days to see whether it fixes itself completely, or I have to go in and make some repairs.

Posted

The personalisation of the beta maps doesn't remember the personalisation when I leave the page. On the original maps, the problem that the personalisation doesn't even get remembered when zooming in/out and moving the map is still not fixed.

I'm using FF 4.X

 

i can't replicate that, the personalization is there whatever i do, navigate away from the page, zoom in and out

 

not sure what you're referring to

 

I'm referring to the standard maps, not the beta maps

Posted

Today, one of my old broken puzzle caches got fixed by some update and one of my new puzzle caches gets broken. Both of them are using tables.

 

For me, the fixed width is not a problem. Actually some of my old cache pages were already using fixed width before this change. The problem, which remains, is adjusting the width of columns. Relative width attributes like width:25%; should be allowed. Now I have to position images by using transparent images as padding.

Posted

The personalisation of the beta maps doesn't remember the personalisation when I leave the page. On the original maps, the problem that the personalisation doesn't even get remembered when zooming in/out and moving the map is still not fixed.

I'm using FF 4.X

 

i can't replicate that, the personalization is there whatever i do, navigate away from the page, zoom in and out

 

not sure what you're referring to

 

I'm referring to the standard maps, not the beta maps

 

your post above states you have a problem with both however, they both work fine for me

Posted

Fix the %*&()% background "tiled" issue already. You screwed this up, which in turn is making some of my caches not possible due to the way I incorporated the background. Enough people have complained, I personally know of 7 people who have contacted GS directly, and they have all been told that WE need to change our HTML. Well sorry, but that's not possible the way you have your table format set up. Fix what is broke before making all these changes. Seriously.

Posted
Fix the %*&()% background "tiled" issue already.
As has been mentioned before in this thread, background images have always been tiled on cache pages. The change is that some people see more of the tiled background because of the fixed-width layout.
Posted

Fix the %*&()% background "tiled" issue already. You screwed this up, which in turn is making some of my caches not possible due to the way I incorporated the background. Enough people have complained, I personally know of 7 people who have contacted GS directly, and they have all been told that WE need to change our HTML. Well sorry, but that's not possible the way you have your table format set up. Fix what is broke before making all these changes. Seriously.

 

I guess when you pay the big $30 fee you are entitled to express your opinion in whatever manner you choose. I know how quickly I would react to someone who told me what to do in the tone you use here. One source I saw referenced more than 2,000,000 geocaching accounts. So I guess the seven you reference will carry a lot of weight with the programmers.

 

Civility is often lacking in computer forums for some reason that eludes me.

Posted

Fix the %*&()% background "tiled" issue already. You screwed this up, which in turn is making some of my caches not possible due to the way I incorporated the background. Enough people have complained, I personally know of 7 people who have contacted GS directly, and they have all been told that WE need to change our HTML. Well sorry, but that's not possible the way you have your table format set up. Fix what is broke before making all these changes. Seriously.

 

I guess when you pay the big $30 fee you are entitled to express your opinion in whatever manner you choose. I know how quickly I would react to someone who told me what to do in the tone you use here. One source I saw referenced more than 2,000,000 geocaching accounts. So I guess the seven you reference will carry a lot of weight with the programmers.

 

Civility is often lacking in computer forums for some reason that eludes me.

 

I'm agreeing with kelinore. It worked fine before. Now it is broken. It shows a lack of considration for those who have been playing this game for a few years. Far more than 7 caches have been affected. I checked on a Mac, and the background does not work there either. I've just removed most of my backgrounds, and archived the cache that was affected.

Now. Other problems. It takes at least a minute (frequently more) to view My Profile.

Signing in takes me to another site, which brings up the 'trying to access one of your favorite sites. Do you want to?' Another few added steps. :( Guess that's because I'm using Windows XP. But it's annoying to be brought to a different site to sign in.

Posted

Fix the %*&()% background "tiled" issue already. You screwed this up, which in turn is making some of my caches not possible due to the way I incorporated the background. Enough people have complained, I personally know of 7 people who have contacted GS directly, and they have all been told that WE need to change our HTML. Well sorry, but that's not possible the way you have your table format set up. Fix what is broke before making all these changes. Seriously.

 

I guess when you pay the big $30 fee you are entitled to express your opinion in whatever manner you choose. I know how quickly I would react to someone who told me what to do in the tone you use here. One source I saw referenced more than 2,000,000 geocaching accounts. So I guess the seven you reference will carry a lot of weight with the programmers.

 

Civility is often lacking in computer forums for some reason that eludes me.

 

I'm agreeing with kelinore. It worked fine before. Now it is broken. It shows a lack of considration for those who have been playing this game for a few years. Far more than 7 caches have been affected. I checked on a Mac, and the background does not work there either. I've just removed most of my backgrounds, and archived the cache that was affected.

Now. Other problems. It takes at least a minute (frequently more) to view My Profile.

Signing in takes me to another site, which brings up the 'trying to access one of your favorite sites. Do you want to?' Another few added steps. :( Guess that's because I'm using Windows XP. But it's annoying to be brought to a different site to sign in.

+1

Not only did they force a fixed width that broke lots of cache pages, but they also screwed over the HTML on a lot of profile pages. I had some tables that took less than the full width. Now the tables go from wall to wall and anything I do is stripped out. We won't even start to mention the maps. A lot of work was done on the maps this past week and they are mostly useable. But a lot was broken and a lot of people certainly got upset. A lot still needs to be fixed, or some really good explanations other than "This is what is needed to make IE work."

Posted

Ahh... solved by installing the element hider extension to AdBolck Plus and reading the user notes.

 

Thanks Frank,

 

Chris

 

You are welcome Chris - it is a powerful tool to help with many sites design one may not personally like.

Posted

I'm not going to get into the argument about fixed layout. I accept that that is Groundspeak's choice. The problem is that we cache owners have been allowed to play a part in the web page design for our caches and this fixed layout change has had a negative impact on our designs; specifically the background image. It would be nice if Groundspeak would incorporate our backgrounds into their fixed layout design (i.e. provide a border around the fixed layout that resembles the appearance that used to exist rather than having the background spread from wall to wall on the screen). I think that would take care of most of the objections.

 

Anyway, I have removed all custom backgrounds from all of our caches because they look so awful with the new fixed layout design. I have been replacing the backgrounds with a simple Groundspeak green background that I think improves the overall look of the page.

 

Here is a example: http://www.geocachin...f0-0b88f670c84a

 

If you would like to use our green background it is:

http://img.geocachin...5b4ca44f860.jpg

 

I like - thanks! I will be using it. Looks much better with that background.

Posted

Is it possible to use Ad-Block Plus or a Greasemonkey Script to fix the fixed-width issue?

No, I don't think so. I'm sure if it was we would have at least a half dozen scripts or rules to choose from by now. That is something driven by the site wide CSS.

Posted (edited)

Is it possible to use Ad-Block Plus or a Greasemonkey Script to fix the fixed-width issue?

No, I don't think so. I'm sure if it was we would have at least a half dozen scripts or rules to choose from by now. That is something driven by the site wide CSS.

 

See #56 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=273473&view=findpost&p=4700780

Using: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stylish/

 

(Does what I want... you may need to play to get what you want...)

Edited by aB5dEglYeS5P
Posted (edited)

I hope the decision makers are monitoring this thread and might deign to provide a response, in one venue or another. It's been almost two weeks since the May 4th geocaching.com website sea change. Since then, we've seen some of the changes reversed, others fixed, and many complimented. A few days after the big change, I got a request to participate in a survey and presumably so did a fairly large number of other (randomly selected?) geocachers. The survey specifically sought our opinion about the "fixed-width" changes. The survey asked if we did/didn't like the fixed-width layout in A) our profile page; B ) our cache listings; C) other people's cache listings or D)uniformly disliked the fixed-width look. (Option D might have been the opposite: Don't mind the change ... I don't remember which way it was worded. But my response was that I really DIS-liked the change). As far as I've been able to tell, no changes have come about as a result of the survey thus far. I also haven't seen any reporting of the survey results. So, it becomes natural to ask: is the fixed-width layout here to stay? Will we be given an answer one way or the other? Is an internal debate raging and we'll be told when HQ is good and ready?

 

As an unimportant, but personal, aside - I have no intention of "fixing" my cache pages to look better with this (awful) fixed-width layout. I'm also not going to leave the awful-looking cache pages active for much longer so that's my personal reason for wondering if we'll get official word about the permanency of this change. And if the answer's already been given, would someone please point that out to me? And I'll save some trouble for those would respond in one predictable manner: yes, I know that GC.com doesn't "owe" me or anyone an explanation or ruling ... I'm just asking if there will be one.

 

thanks

- fish

Edited by fishiam
Posted
As far as I've been able to tell, no changes have come about as a result of the survey thus far. I also haven't seen any reporting of the survey results. So, it becomes natural to ask: is the fixed-width layout here to stay? Will we be given an answer one way or the other? Is an internal debate raging and we'll be told when HQ is good and ready?
I don't know the inside story at Groundspeak, but based on my experience with other corporate sites:

 

The fixed-width layout isn't something that can be changed quickly and easily with a simple hotfix. Once they decided to assume a fixed width, that assumption was baked into other aspects of the new site design. They can't just turn off the fixed width without breaking other parts of the site design that depend on the fixed width.

 

Also, the new site layout was just part of a bigger update. Rolling back to the old layout isn't an option, unless they roll back everything. And from what I've read, there are a lot of important infrastructure changes and bugfixes in the update. They aren't going to roll back those changes just to roll back the layout.

 

So if they switch to a liquid layout, they're going to do it by moving forward with a new design, not by going backwards to the old design. Given the number of votes and supporters on the feedback site, I'm sure they're aware of the issue, and of the interest many of their users have in the issue:

http://feedback.geocaching.com/forums/75775-geocaching-com/suggestions/1786865-narrow-layout-kills-listing-and-profile-layout

Posted

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this or not but if you go to the cache page the dates found are all messed up. It is showing caches that I found in 2009 as being found yesterday and others on dates that are all wrong.

Posted

There still seems to be an issue with the "Last Found" column on certain cache listings. When looking at a list of nearby caches or of my own finds, the column seems to be displayed and sorts as expected.

 

However, when I look at a list of caches found by another cacher, the date the other cacher found the cache isn't shown; only the date that I found it (if I found it) and the last date that ANY cacher found the cache. There is no way to see when the other cacher found the cache without going to the cache page and searching for their log. This was not the case previously and I can only assume that this recent "update" has caused this.

 

Are there any plans to correct this situation? Or did anybody else even know it existed?

Posted (edited)

I just noticed today that the "View the Image Gallery" on cache pages no longer shows the number of images in the gallery. I'm not sure if this change was introduced in this update, but it must be fairly recent. I often use the image gallery when selecting potential caches, using the image count as a possible indicator of a better than average cache. Now I have to view the gallery to see the number of images. Before, I would normally only click the link if there were more than a couple images. Is there a reason why this was removed and is it possible to get it restored?

Edited by rtyrie
Posted (edited)
I just noticed today that the "View the Image Gallery" on cache pages no longer shows the number of images in the gallery.

Looking at one of my cache pages, the link says "View the Image Gallery of 3 images"

 

Yes, this is a change because it used to say something like "View the Image Gallery (3 images)"

 

Edit to add link.

Edited by Lil Devil
Posted

There still seems to be an issue with the "Last Found" column on certain cache listings. When looking at a list of nearby caches or of my own finds, the column seems to be displayed and sorts as expected.

 

However, when I look at a list of caches found by another cacher, the date the other cacher found the cache isn't shown; only the date that I found it (if I found it) and the last date that ANY cacher found the cache. There is no way to see when the other cacher found the cache without going to the cache page and searching for their log. This was not the case previously and I can only assume that this recent "update" has caused this.

 

Are there any plans to correct this situation? Or did anybody else even know it existed?

 

Yep, I noticed that last night - haven't used that function for a while so I don't know when it started.

Posted
I just noticed today that the "View the Image Gallery" on cache pages no longer shows the number of images in the gallery.

Looking at one of my cache pages, the link says "View the Image Gallery of 3 images"

 

Yes, this is a change because it used to say something like "View the Image Gallery (3 images)"

 

Edit to add link.

 

Thanks, I've taken another look and have found that if the gallery only has 1 image, it does not show the count. If there is more than 1 image, then the url is as you have described. I think they just need to make a minor change to their counter.

Posted (edited)

Ok Groundspeak, please explain something to me. When I go to the new map, the first thing that pops up is the box that says Congratulations, you found it. I have seen this box more times than I care to. Each time that I see it, I check "do not show this box again". Guess what? I keep seeing the box. Why does the box give us a choice as to whether or not we want to see it or not, if our choice doesnt matter.

 

Now, about the maps, one feature that we had available to us on the old maps was a listing of the caches that are currently displayed on the screen. That came in very handy of you wanted to find one cache in particular while on the map page. Sure, if you are looking for one cache in particular, we know there are other ways to do that. But, lets say Im looking at the caches within 5 miles of my home, and I have filtered out my finds. But, I want to see that one cache that I was just emailed about, with the new map, I need to hover on each icon to see which one has the name Im looking for. On the old maps, all I had to do was scroll down the names of the caches and when I found the one I wanted, click and it shows me on the map where it is.

 

Groundspeak seems to be pushing us more and more into using GSAK or some other 3rd party programs for searching for items. The site, IMO took a major step backwards in the mapping department on this latest upgrade.

Edited by Berta, Nick and Zoey
Posted (edited)

There still seems to be an issue with the "Last Found" column on certain cache listings. When looking at a list of nearby caches or of my own finds, the column seems to be displayed and sorts as expected.

 

However, when I look at a list of caches found by another cacher, the date the other cacher found the cache isn't shown; only the date that I found it (if I found it) and the last date that ANY cacher found the cache. There is no way to see when the other cacher found the cache without going to the cache page and searching for their log. This was not the case previously and I can only assume that this recent "update" has caused this.

 

Are there any plans to correct this situation? Or did anybody else even know it existed?

 

Yep, I noticed that last night - haven't used that function for a while so I don't know when it started.

It started at the time of the site "update". I can't imagine why anyone would want to look at a specific cacher's finds and see the date that some other cacher last found a cache, so it had to be an unintentional side effect of the new site layout. But then again, logic doesn't always play into the plans of some. :D

Edited by Aquacache
Posted

... when I look at a list of caches found by another cacher, the date the other cacher found the cache isn't shown; only the date that I found it (if I found it) and the last date that ANY cacher found the cache. There is no way to see when the other cacher found the cache without going to the cache page and searching for their log. This was not the case previously and I can only assume that this recent "update" has caused this.

 

Are there any plans to correct this situation? Or did anybody else even know it existed?

 

Yes! Please support the bug I reported on this:

http://feedback.geocaching.com/forums/75863-report-a-problem/suggestions/1824037-found-date-is-missing-from-friend-page

 

This is useful to check when my friend last went caching, and which caches he found.

Posted
Now, about the maps, one feature that we had available to us on the old maps was a listing of the caches that are currently displayed on the screen. That came in very handy...

I agree that was useful. I hope the 'old' maps aren't taken away entirely, because I used that feature a lot. It was very easy to map a general area and use Ctrl-F to zero in on caches you were trying to locate.

 

I also liked that the caches were sorted by waypoint number - I'm often looking for caches that were placed in or around certain dates, and the waypoint number sorting is a pretty good proxy for that (it's not perfect, but pretty correlated). So I could scroll through the list by date and keep my eyes out for anything interesting.

Posted

...I can't imagine why anyone would want to look at a specific cacher's finds and see the date that some other cacher last found a cache, ... :D

You are right, this change is complete nonsense! And I would say it has nothing to do with the changes of html, the beta maps, or the fixed width.

Posted (edited)

Is it a bug or a feature ... ??

 

In others cachers profile .... the list of found caches

 

before update you saw the date the other cacher found the cache

after the update you see the last date anybody found the cache

 

I think that´s stupid. In other cachers profile I´m interested when they found it, not anybody ...

 

Biggi_H

 

edit: sorry for double posting ... didn´t saw the post above....

Edited by Biggi_H
Posted (edited)

Here is another seemingly very odd thing that has accompanied the changes of late. A local puzzle cache, Floating Flyers (GC2MHZ7), shows all text in the Found It logs (and Notes) in the font color used to write the cache text - a golden yellow color. I haven't found other puzzle caches (yet) similarly affected but ... how did this one happen? If it's a new feature, I'd like to use it to change the font color of certain entries in many of my cache pages!

 

... Never Mind ... it went away ... but was there the past two days.

Edited by fishiam
Posted

Here is another seemingly very odd thing that has accompanied the changes of late. A local puzzle cache, Floating Flyers (GC2MHZ7), shows all text in the Found It logs (and Notes) in the font color used to write the cache text - a golden yellow color. I haven't found other puzzle caches (yet) similarly affected but ... how did this one happen? If it's a new feature, I'd like to use it to change the font color of certain entries in many of my cache pages!

I'm not seeing it - maybe it was a general net glitch? It's possible that when you loaded the page your browser didn't pick up the closing tag for the font color - try reloading it now?

 

In other news, the background image on that page combined with the new fixed width feature has successfully hypnotized me.

 

I must kill... the queen...

Posted
When I go to the new map, the first thing that pops up is the box that says Congratulations, you found it. I have seen this box more times than I care to. Each time that I see it, I check "do not show this box again". Guess what? I keep seeing the box.

This would be a cookie problem. Either you're not accepting cookies from geocaching.com, or your cookies are corrupted. Set your browser to accept cookies, or clear your cookies to resolve this issue.

Posted
A local puzzle cache, Floating Flyers (GC2MHZ7), shows all text in the Found It logs (and Notes) in the font color used to write the cache text - a golden yellow color.

 

... Never Mind ... it went away ... but was there the past two days.

I bet a reviewer saw your first post and corrected it.

 

This was a big problem up until a couple of releases ago. When a cache was first submitted, HTML Tidy was not run on the description, but it was run on all subsequent edits. So sometimes a cache with bad HTML would creep through. All that had to be done to fix it was click the "edit" link, then save, which would make it get cleaned up by HTML Tidy. A reviewer probably did this when s/he saw your post.

 

As of a couple of releases ago, all caches are run through HTML Tidy even upon first submission.

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