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AtwellFamily

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I have a number of coins in the works but this is a large 'coin a month project' I have just finalized the artwork with the mint. This artwork is before some changes the mint made but is very close to what the finished product will look like.

 

Once I get the samples for the first 3 coins I will post a page where people can join the group. I expect the samples in late February. The project is slated for 7 coins. Like I said I have some other projects in the works already but I am excited about this. I'll send email to those on my list when the page it up. Here is the artwork for three of the designs in the series. Price will be VERY reasonable for those who participate from the beginning, and buy the entire series. There will also be an LE finish only available to those in the group.

 

There will be a number of cointest over the next 3 months for XLE versions of the coins. Study up on your US Flag History.

 

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Looks like an interesting and fun project. Designs are well done.

Thanks. New artist I started to use for a few coins and he does do nice work. The text and the edge of the coins will be fully raised the artowrk on the back will be half raised in 3D. This will do 2 things. Make the text easy to read and give the effect that the artwork is behind the text.

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And I just learned something new! I didn't know the Betsy Ross flag wasn't an official flag!

 

I love the way you did the backs, very nice. Dependent on finances and whatnot I'll probably be interested in the set when they're ready..

 

Just one note.. the little bits of back that show in the folds of the "Star Spangled Banner".. should they be red instead of white?

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fox-and-the-hound

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And I just learned something new! I didn't know the Betsy Ross flag wasn't an official flag!

 

I love the way you did the backs, very nice. Dependent on finances and whatnot I'll probably be interested in the set when they're ready..

 

Just one note.. the little bits of back that show in the folds of the "Star Spangled Banner".. should they be red instead of white?

 

Hmm... nice catch! It only seems to be on that second design, too. These are really looking nice and I'm particularly impressed with the third. Can't wait to see how these look "in the flesh"! :yikes:

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Just one note.. the little bits of back that show in the folds of the "Star Spangled Banner".. should they be red instead of white?

 

This was the artwork before the mint and I didn't catch that from the artist. I did catch it from the mint. I also fixed the stripes to look a bid more even.

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What a fantastic set of geocoins! I *love* the design!!

 

I am sitting in my New England Colonial Home - The West House - built circa 1796, proundly displaying our period accurate Star Spangled Banner!! I am a huge US Flag buff so I'm hoping I might get in on the XLE's for my collection! Will definitely be circulating some of these gems when they're out!

 

Thanks,

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What a fantastic set of geocoins! I *love* the design!!

 

I am sitting in my New England Colonial Home - The West House - built circa 1796, proundly displaying our period accurate Star Spangled Banner!! I am a huge US Flag buff so I'm hoping I might get in on the XLE's for my collection! Will definitely be circulating some of these gems when they're out!

 

Thanks,

DrJeepStr

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Queenie-Boo-Bay

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I just could not wait to show these to Dad, but he had already seen them.

He did say we would get on the list.

I would like to share a flag we have on display at our house:

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This is our Flag and my Brother Fredhead.

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This is the Flag upclose, with certificate, and challange coins.

 

This flag was actually flown in Iraq.

 

We have another waiting to be framed, as well as the flag that drapped my Grandfathers casket at his funeral.

This flag also contains brass from the three shot volley.

 

Please see my Grandfather's TB:

In Memory of "Junie" TB27G7T

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AtwellFamily

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Well that must have been to easy. :D First post and it is correct. :D

 

Congrats fox-and-the-hound!

 

Nothing to prove this but the story says:

"George Washington's original pencil sketch for the flag indicated 6-pointed stars, a form he apparently preferred. Betsy Ross, however, recommended a 5-pointed star. When the committee protested that it was too difficult to make, she took a piece of paper, folded it deftly, and with a single snip of her scissors, produced a symmetrical five-pointed star. This seeming feat of magic so impressed her audience that they readily agreed to her suggestion."

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Elizabeth Griscom Ross (1752-1836), was a Philadelphia seamstress, married to John Ross, an upholsterer who was killed in a munitions explosion in 1776. She kept the upholstery shop going and lived on Arch Street, not too far from the State House on Chestnut, where history was being made almost every day. According to most historians, she has been incorrectly credited with designing the first Stars and Stripes. The story has enormous popularity, yet the facts do not substantiate it. Lets begin with the legend itself.

 

George Washington was a frequent visitor to the home of Mrs. Ross before receiving command of the army. She embroidered his shirt ruffles and did many other things for him. He knew her skill with a needle. Now the General of the Continental Army, George Washington appeared on Mrs. Ross's dooorstep around the first of June, 1776, with two representatives of Congress, Colonel Ross and Robert Morris. They asked that she make a flag according to a rough drawing they carried with them. At Mrs.Ross's suggestion, Washington redrew the flag design in pencil in her back parlor to employ stars of five points instead of six. ("Her version" of the flag for the new republic was not used until six years later.)

 

This account of the creation of our first flag was first brought to light in 1870 by one of her grandsons, William J. Canby, at a meeting of the Historical Society of Pennsylvania. This took place 94 years after the event supposedly took place! Mr. Canby was a boy of eleven years when Mrs. Ross died in his home.

 

In the many years since the story was told, numerous historians have conducted vigorous searches into extant government records, personal diaries,and writings of Washington and his contemporaries and none of them have been able to verify the claims of Canby. One verifiable fact is this; the minutes of the State Navy Board of Pennsylvania for May 29, 1777, say in part "An order on William Webb to Elizabeth Ross for fourteen pounds twelve shillings, and two pence, for making ship's colours,&c, put into Richards store". The minutes show that Elizabeth Ross made ship's colors for Pennsylvania state ships. Some of the facts, among others, that have been discovered by this research that cast doubt on Canby's claim are these; He asserted that the stars and stripes were in common if not general use soon after the signing of the Declaration of Independence, nearly a year before the resolution of Congress proclaiming the flag. There is no record of the flag being discussed or of a committee being appointed for the design of the flag in either the Journals of the Continental Congress or the diaries and writings of Washington around this time. Meetings with Colonel Ross and Robert Morris cannot be documented. Further, it is illogical to assume that Washington was present at the alleged meeting with Betsy Ross on the design of the flag when it is known that he wanted a national standard made for the use of the army in 1779.

 

But I think that the question that begs to be asked is; Why have so many generations of Americans come to accept this legend as fact? After Canby's death, a book written by his brother George Canby and nephew Lloyd Balderson was published in 1909. The book, The Evolution of the American Flag, presented in more detail the claims for Betsy Ross made by William Canby in 1870. Among other things, the authors describe the formation of the Betsy Ross Memorial Association, and reproduced a painting by Charles H. Weisgerber depicting the alleged meeting of the committee of Congress with Betsy Ross. The picture, entitled Birth of Our Nations Flag, is actually a composite portrait made up of from pictures of her granddaughters and other decendants. The artist took liberties with history by painting the stars in the flag in a circle. This painting, incidently, stirred a great deal of public interest in the subject when it was first exibited, at the Columbian Exposition in Chicago in 1893. Following this, money to purchase the Betsy Ross house in Philadelphia was raised by selling ten-cent subscriptions to the American Flag House and Betsy Ross Memorial Association, incorporated in 1898. Each contributor received a certificate of membership that included a picture of the house, her grave in Mt. Moriah Cemetery in Philadelphia, and a color reproduction of the Weisberger painting. This campaign gave the legend wide publicity and the Weisberger painting was reproduced in school history textbooks thoughout the United States!

 

In the days of Betsy Ross we did not have the benefit of a frenetic press corps to witness, probe, and record the events of the day. Careful historians do not accept the legend and neither should we. At the same time, there often seems to be a wistful regret, best expressed, perhaps, by President Woodrow Wilson when asked his opinion of the story. He replied, "Would that it were true!"

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Well that must have been to easy. :D First post and it is correct. :D

 

Congrats fox-and-the-hound!

 

Nothing to prove this but the story says:

"George Washington's original pencil sketch for the flag indicated 6-pointed stars, a form he apparently preferred. Betsy Ross, however, recommended a 5-pointed star. When the committee protested that it was too difficult to make, she took a piece of paper, folded it deftly, and with a single snip of her scissors, produced a symmetrical five-pointed star. This seeming feat of magic so impressed her audience that they readily agreed to her suggestion."

 

:( That's the way I remember it from grade school, too! Thanks so much for the cointest. I must have just timed it by chance perfectly!

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So if I'm reading the website correctly the 3 choices of metals are antique silver, sandblasted silver, and sandblasted gold, right? But you have to keep the one plating choice per each set ordered, right?

 

How does one go about getting the XLE version? Is that (antique gold) for the entire set or just one of the coins?

 

When is the last day you will be accepting subscriptions for the series?

 

Will coins be made available separately as they come in in case one wanted to just get particular flags?

 

Sorry for all the questions...I'm trying to budget. :angry:

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