Nanocaches

[+SDAJumpmaster]

SInce the description for a microcache is a 35mm film canister, I would like to suggest a new category called "Nanocache" for the itty bitty bison tubes we all keep finding out there!

 

If it is smaller than 1" in length and 1/4" in diameter, it should be classified as a Nano.

[+TeamK-9]

I think it's just fine the way it is. A bison cylinder is a micro in my mind. It having a different title wouldn't make me want to find it any more or less.

 

There are probably half a dozen different sizes of ammo cans, and hundreds of sizes of tupperware. If sizes were to be added for every different unique size of container then there would be too many.

 

I like it the way it is now, simple and informative.

[+robert]

Too many options dilutes the differences between them. As it is right now, a micro is defined as 35mm film can or smaller, which includes nanos.

 

[+Airmapper]

I'd really hate to hear about nanocaches hidden in the woods.

[+geognerd]

If it is smaller than 1" in length and 1/4" in diameter, it should be classified as a Nano.

I don't see how anything smaller than this could hold a logsheet. Well, I guess the 1" is wide enough for the sheet, but trying to roll it up to be less than 1/4" is tough. To be a real cache, the container has to be able to hold a logsheet. I have found small magnetic containers that measure 3/8" in length and 3/8" in diameter, but those were parts of multis that only held a little slip of paper with the next stage's coordinates.

[+q22q17]

Found one yesterday that was one of those breath strip containers. It only held the log sheet. Was listed as a micro. Personally, I like regulars or large, easier to find and better place to drop TB's....... If this were a poll, I would say micro covers it.

[+Jester2112]

I'd really hate to hear about nanocaches hidden in the woods.

Then whatever you do, DO NOT look at THIS CACHE.

[+wornout]

If it is smaller than 1" in length and 1/4" in diameter, it should be classified as a Nano.

I don't see how anything smaller than this could hold a logsheet. Well, I guess the 1" is wide enough for the sheet, but trying to roll it up to be less than 1/4" is tough. To be a real cache, the container has to be able to hold a logsheet. I have found small magnetic containers that measure 3/8" in length and 3/8" in diameter, but those were parts of multis that only held a little slip of paper with the next stage's coordinates.

Here is one, unfortunately they are out there, I found one today. They unscrew and a log 1/4 inch wide and 10 inches long fits in there just fine. And so it goes.

[+Airmapper]

I'd really hate to hear about nanocaches hidden in the woods.

Then whatever you do, DO NOT look at THIS CACHE.

You do know I HAD to look after you said that.

[+Thrak]

If it is smaller than 1" in length and 1/4" in diameter, it should be classified as a Nano.

I don't see how anything smaller than this could hold a logsheet. Well, I guess the 1" is wide enough for the sheet, but trying to roll it up to be less than 1/4" is tough. To be a real cache, the container has to be able to hold a logsheet. I have found small magnetic containers that measure 3/8" in length and 3/8" in diameter, but those were parts of multis that only held a little slip of paper with the next stage's coordinates.

Here is one, unfortunately they are out there, I found one today. They unscrew and a log 1/4 inch wide and 10 inches long fits in there just fine. And so it goes.

I found one similar to that in Chico at this cache: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...4b-97cedfd798e3

 

It's an incredibly small magnetic container. I used the tweezers on my little Swiss Army Knife to remove the log.

[+GeoLite69]

these nano caches are my forte,they can be purchased through oriental trading as flashing earring jewelry for .88$ or through www.floridageocaching.com as mr magneto's for 3$,suit yourselves i'm just an oregon hider and these things are "NANO" micro's,a 35mm cannister here in oregon is considered a small,and a five gallon bucket a luxury.whatcha gonna say now?

[tossedsalad]

I'd really hate to hear about nanocaches hidden in the woods.

Then whatever you do, DO NOT look at THIS CACHE.

AAAAHHHHHRRRRGGGGG!!!!! I looked and now I'm BLIND!!! Where's my white cane?

[+dogbreathcanada]

Mork Cache? Nanoo nanoo.

[+fishingfools]

Mork Cache? Nanoo nanoo.

oh I am so stealing that for a two stage multi nano

[+wimseyguy]

Mork Cache? Nanoo nanoo.

oh I am so stealing that for a two stage multi nano

I saw that. Sheesh if you hide it who will help me find it?

[+Jester2112]

I'd really hate to hear about nanocaches hidden in the woods.

Then whatever you do, DO NOT look at THIS CACHE.

AAAAHHHHHRRRRGGGGG!!!!! I looked and now I'm BLIND!!! Where's my white cane?

I warned you not to look!

[+fly46]

I just got about half a dozen of those.

And I've found the place to put the first one. It's just a matter of time before I do.

They can be painted with a silver sharpie and end up being Almost the color of a guard rail.

[+Mighty Nimbus]

I just got about half a dozen of those.

And I've found the place to put the first one. It's just a matter of time before I do.

They can be painted with a silver sharpie and end up being Almost the color of a guard rail.

I recently purchased 8 of those on eBay. I fitted them with laminated coordinates and they will become part of a 9 point multi across a 6 mile area. Good times.

[+Polar B's]

That just wrong, just plain wrong

[+Wacka]

Those "blinkies" are all over the SF Bay area. Marky and Joani had about 3 gross of them!

[+budd-rdc]

Yup, there has been a fad of hiding the "blinkers" (the nanocaches smaller than most fingernails) in the first 6 months of this year in the San Francisco Bay Area. For the most part, they've been hidden with common sense, which means they are visible in plain sight.

 

Your GPSr's accuracy is in feet, not in fraction of an inch.

 

These things can be a maintenance nightmare, as the log sheets become full very quickly. It wouldn't be fair to ask us to write like Buddhist monks who can fit hundreds of characters on a rice grain.

 

It also requires the finder to roll up the log sheet very carefully before replacing which can be time consuming.

 

They are practical to use if you need to place an intermediate stage of a multi in an environment where larger containers can't be hidden well. Otherwise, I predict the novelty will wear off very quickly for both the finders and the hiders.

 

For me, bison tubes are considered good micros - not too small, weather-proof, allow more creative attachments, and fit larger log sheets to save on maintenance trips. It still requires the finders to roll up the log sheets carefully, though.

 

As for the OP's question, I'm against adding a new container type for nanos. It should be up to the hider to mention the specifics of the container size (or not, depending on the intent) in the listing.

Edited October 10, 2005 by budd-rdc

[+BBWolf+3Pigs]

If it is smaller than 1" in length and 1/4" in diameter, it should be classified as a Nano.

I don't see how anything smaller than this could hold a logsheet. Well, I guess the 1" is wide enough for the sheet, but trying to roll it up to be less than 1/4" is tough. To be a real cache, the container has to be able to hold a logsheet. I have found small magnetic containers that measure 3/8" in length and 3/8" in diameter, but those were parts of multis that only held a little slip of paper with the next stage's coordinates.

The guts of one of my caches is a section of a BIC pen. There's also the tiny ID capsule for pets you can get at PetSmart. It holds a small sheet of paper.

[+tands]

I've got a bucky-tube micro ready to go as soon as I can do the following:

 

Roll the log up tight enough.

 

Find 2 bucky-bowls to use as caps.

 

Convince S that I'm not the crazed micro-hider she knows I am.

 

- T of TandS

[vagabond]

We did one yesterday and it took us longer to reroll the log then it did to find it

[+robert]

If you glue (using really small glue ) a toothpick to the small log sheets you can use that to roll it up. Just break off the part of the toothpick that would prevent the micro from closing.

[+robert]

If you do a google search for "micro cache container" you come up with some interesting caches, including some nanos. This one shows a logsheet.

 

Edited October 11, 2005 by robert

[+wornout]

That just wrong, just plain wrong

Realy wrong if that cacher that is going to place 9 of these for a multi in a 6 square mile area places them "in the woods", I mean come on..!!!!!

[+WizCreations]

There's a cache here that is 3/5" length by 1/8" diameter

[+FlyfishermanMike]

If I used one of thoes tiny little magnetic containers I tell how small it is and how hard it will be to sign and roll up the log. If you don't like them, don't try to find them. I personally love them.

 

^^ike

[+sept1c_tank]

Not really nano; breath strip size

(you try signing it) :

 

[+Mighty Nimbus]

That just wrong, just plain wrong  

Realy wrong if that cacher that is going to place 9 of these for a multi in a 6 square mile area places them "in the woods", I mean come on..!!!!!

Cry havoc! None of them will be in the woods though. I intend to make this a wheelchair accessible cache also.

[+wornout]

That just wrong, just plain wrong  

Realy wrong if that cacher that is going to place 9 of these for a multi in a 6 square mile area places them "in the woods", I mean come on..!!!!!

Cry havoc! None of them will be in the woods though. I intend to make this a wheelchair accessible cache also.

I think that is a cool idea since they will work in places with a lot of foot traffic.

[+TeamAO]

Let's see a piko-cache.

[tossedsalad]

Let's see a piko-cache.

That's pico-cache to you buddy!

 

[+HugoBear]

Can we have a femto-cache?

[tossedsalad]

Can we have a femto-cache?

Yes, but it will have to be a difficulty 5, because you will need a scanning tunneling microscope to sign the log book!

[GeoVet]

How low can you go? Ammo cans or not at all. I take school kids caching, and without the swag it's "a rip off, how cheap . . .". I know, the thrill of the hunt, but kids want STUFF. It's the hidden treasure aspect that jazzes them up. One more pill bottle, one more film can. Enough! Ammo cans, man!

[+Airmapper]

I'll admit, I'd take 1 ammo can over 3 micros. I don't even trade that much, but it's still cool to go through and see what everyones left behind. Besides, how do you get a travel bug in a nonocache?

[+sbell111]

Here is one, unfortunately they are out there, I found one today. They unscrew and a log 1/4 inch wide and 10 inches long fits in there just fine. And so it goes.

That pic looks VERY familiar.

 

I don't have a problem with those. They are magentic and I've never seen one that wasn't stuck to a metallic object, usually in plain site. Until they start making trees out of steel, I doubt we'll see very many of these in the woods.

[+GRANPA ALEX]

How low can you go? Ammo cans or not at all. I take school kids caching, and without the swag it's "a rip off, how cheap . . .".

I take kids out too . . . you know you can avoid caching any of the small stuff by choosing the caches that you elect to explore.

 

My kids have 'learned' to love the challenge of the hunt and the joy of finding a micro/nano . . . they holler out loud, as if they have discovered gold.

 

Of course, they are 6 years & older and I have influenced them, somewhat. It's just that the swag gets to be 'me too' very quickly, same stuff and boring . . . it is the hunt & joy of the find that make it fun.

[GeoVet]

My kids have 'learned' to love the challenge of the hunt and the joy of finding a micro/nano . . . they holler out loud, as if they have discovered gold.

 

I teach middle schoolers in a 3 week mini course. They're really quite mercenary about caching. Some kids just don't get " the thrill of the hunt". It's all about getting there first and getting the goods. Some kids, just like real people, will develop into life-long cachers with respect for the gestalt of the game. I still like ammo cans better.

[+Wacka]

Here is one, unfortunately they are out there, I found one today.  They unscrew and a log 1/4 inch wide and 10 inches long fits in there just fine.  And so it goes.

That pic looks VERY familiar.

 

I don't have a problem with those. They are magentic and I've never seen one that wasn't stuck to a metallic object, usually in plain site. Until they start making trees out of steel, I doubt we'll see very many of these in the woods.

I have seen two of those attached to trees!

[+humanloofa]

I only go after the small one bymyself, My son likes to trade. He had a hard time believing a bison tube was really a cache. So did I the first time I saw one. The smallest I have hidden so far is a 2 breath strip containers.

[+Deliveryguy428]

Convince S that I'm not the crazed micro-hider she knows I am.

 

- T of TandS

I think I just stepped in something icky and squishy or Blue Skies if you know what I mean :-D

 

You are what she thinks you are....trust me, your evil in micrs as I am evil in puzzles as of late....now when our forces combine we are Capt. Puzzle Micro!

[Pinster56]

If you do a google search for "micro cache container" you come up with some interesting caches, including some nanos.  This one shows a logsheet.

 

I just bought a bunch of these. Is there a site where I can print off a log sheet like this one?

[+BigFurryMonster]

If it is smaller than 1" in length

 

Smaller than one second in length ?! That's quite big!! (unless you're too near the poles)

[+fauxSteve]

Smaller than one second in length ?! That's quite big!! (unless you're too near the poles)

But I hear that they're good for numbers runs; you can find 60 of them in a minute!

 

The biggest problem with most of those nano-caches (pet identification tubes and those little round ones that I've found a few times) is getting the log in and out. However, they work great as waypoints since less paper is generally needed. The "micro" category is still good, and if you think the finder needs to know that it's a really small micro then you can make a note of it on the cache page.

[+ChinCache]

Pet I.D. tube in the woods screwed to an abandoned stucture. so far about six cachers have found this stage of a multi I have hidden.

[+Ed & Julie]

No problem, as long as the description states "nano-cache" so I know to ignore it...

[+BigHank]

I think that micro covers it well enough, and I agree with the poster that said if you hide a "nano," then please note it in the cache description.

I prefer ammo can size caches, and larger. I recently did the biggest cache container I have ever found, in Phoenix while on a trip out there. When the cache owner said "Mine's bigger than most" he wasn't kidding at all, and he proved that size does matter.