Moun10Bike Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I have been contacted by the author of an upcoming book with a working title of Other Americans: underground, overground, off the grid that profiles groups of people who get together regularly to do interesting, strange, dangerous, or downright bizarre things. For some reason, he thinks that geocachers qualify! His desire is to join a "field trip" of 10-12 number of geocachers. He envisions a "light expedition that would avail our 2 photographers and myself, a writer, of all that makes geocaching so splendid and addictive. Since the book is a pictorial, photo opps are very important, and a range of geocaching phenomenon is desired." After some discussion, the following criteria were determined for the outing: Date of Tuesday, July 19 A group of "mixed experience levels so the story is not heavily skewed to the pros" Distance to trailhead less than 2 hours from Seattle Total hiking time of less than 5 hours Less than 500 feet of elevation gain I have committed to this outing and thus am looking for 10 or 11 others who have that day free and would be able to join us on the expedition. Given the need for mixed experience levels and a relatively small group size, I may need to be selective in who attends. That said, who is interested, and does anyone have any ideas for a good place to take them that "would avail our 2 photographers and myself, a writer, of all that makes geocaching so splendid and addictive?" Thanks! Quote Link to comment
+Prying Pandora Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Darn! I have to work. Quote Link to comment
+WeightMan Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 And I will be caching my way north on the Oregon coast. Double dang. Quote Link to comment
+podlians pod Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 tuesday the 19th let me check my schedule but what timeframe are we looking at such as 0400-2200 or what? if you can get me timeframes i may be able to make it then Quote Link to comment
+CENT5 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 (edited) I'm in and it's the day after my 53rd B'day. If I qualify that is. Edited July 7, 2005 by CENT5 Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 If I could JUST depend on my new server I'd be there in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment
+ZillahBillies Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 (edited) Wow! Pretty cool stuff. Can't go ourselves, but think it's great offer/oppertunity for those who can attend. Best of luck & have a ball! Hope you can keep us all posted on the book release date. I'm sure we'll buy a copy. Edited July 7, 2005 by ZillahBillies Quote Link to comment
+Shop99er Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Why do these things happen on days when I have to be at work? Quote Link to comment
lucyandrickie Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 If I can hitch a ride with someone, I can make it. As for what cache, M10B Multi Maze would be a good one but as the owner, M10B may not want that one. Quote Link to comment
MarcusArelius Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Do I hear a return trip to the festering head being planned? Quote Link to comment
Team Misguided Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 *cough* *cough* (I wish, job's too new to call in sick to go caching) Technically isn't the Ebey Bluffs trail head less than two hours from Seattle? The elevation gain would be less than 500 feet or pretty close to it. Scary Ladder would be fun as well. If you want to give them the whole interesting, strange, dangerous, or downright bizarre experience. Quote Link to comment
+Allanon Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I don't want to sound negative (even though that's the way this is going to be taken), but it sounds like this is more of a piece on hiking with a little geocaching thrown in. Of the 5 criteria, only one is about the caching/cachers...and one is the date. The other 3 are about hiking. What about the fabulous "drive by" view caches that a group os us did last Saturday? Vertago View was by far the most spectular 'view' for pictorial opportunities I've experienced even though the day was not blue and sunny (yes, I know there are also views on the tops of mountains available from hikes I haven't been on), but the point is it doesn't have to exclude non-hiking caches. We had a blast driving all over the hills last Saturday. And what do you know...we even did some walking as well... And what about cache machines? Event Caches? CITO events? Maybe not the greatest 'views', but sure a lot better for 'photo ops' if you ask me. I guess it's just my opinion that todays cachers are a lot more diverse and that "all that makes geocaching so splendid and addictive" is more than a five hour hike. gets off my reinforced soap box, puts it away, and goes to hide under LandRovers rock... Quote Link to comment
+xy,xx,xy,xy,xy,xy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 gets off my reinforced soap box, puts it away, and goes to hide under LandRovers rock... I thought it was a SCREW. Quote Link to comment
+Defender1 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I'm off on July 19th and would like to be considered for the trip. Thanks Quote Link to comment
reino Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Sounds like fun... I would love to be a part of it. I'm coming up on my one year cacheversary, and have cached solo and with groups. Quote Link to comment
+GeekGirl Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 This sounds right up my alley! I've been at this a year and have met some really cool people that keep me hooked on this. The group events I've been a part of (both the "official" ones like the Cache Machines and the CITO event, and the informal ones like yesterday's trek to the Ape Cache) have been highlights for me. Anyways...I'm stuck at work (in Federal Way) until 10:30 a.m., but if this adventure happens to start after that I'd love to tag along. Quote Link to comment
Moun10Bike Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Of the 5 criteria, only one is about the caching/cachers...and one is the date. The other 3 are about hiking. There's no requirement for hiking. I simply asked for suggestions that met the criteria listed. These criteria came about through my discussions with the author to determine the maximum time output/physical effort to which he and his crew could commit given their schedules, equipment requirements, etc. We could do all drive-bys if that's what the group wanted. My first suggestion to the author had been Ebey Bluffs and Whidbey Island, but he nixed that as he felt it was too far to go. He might not realize how easy it is to get to Whidbey, but I think we may want to stick to "mainland" caches. Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I don't want to sound negative (even though that's the way this is going to be taken), but it sounds like this is more of a piece on hiking with a little geocaching thrown in. Of the 5 criteria, only one is about the caching/cachers...and one is the date. The other 3 are about hiking. What about the fabulous "drive by" view caches that a group os us did last Saturday? Vertago View was by far the most spectular 'view' for pictorial opportunities I've experienced even though the day was not blue and sunny (yes, I know there are also views on the tops of mountains available from hikes I haven't been on), but the point is it doesn't have to exclude non-hiking caches. We had a blast driving all over the hills last Saturday. And what do you know...we even did some walking as well... And what about cache machines? Event Caches? CITO events? Maybe not the greatest 'views', but sure a lot better for 'photo ops' if you ask me. I guess it's just my opinion that todays cachers are a lot more diverse and that "all that makes geocaching so splendid and addictive" is more than a five hour hike. gets off my reinforced soap box, puts it away, and goes to hide under LandRovers rock... I think you read the conditions wrong. These are limitations not must do. Date of Tuesday, July 19 Reporter has a deadline to meet. A group of "mixed experience levels so the story is not heavily skewed to the pros" Wants a full range to look to report from. Distance to trailhead less than 2 hours from Seattle This is a maximum distance and doesn't mean it has to go that far. Total hiking time of less than 5 hours Again a maximum and it doesn't have to go that long. Less than 500 feet of elevation gain Again, a maximum... The reporter is out doing his job and is already carrying gear with him which means s/he doesn't want to work too hard just to get a story out on us. M10B did ask for ideas and there were no exclusions of non-hiking caches that I can see with these conditions. So based on that, vertago is a good suggestion. Cache machines are not because of the timing and the duration. Event caches don't work out with this either again because of the timing. Quote Link to comment
+Lolita Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I'd love to join , if the caches are dog friendly ( very well behaved dog ) and I'm not working that day. Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Count me in. The APE cache might fit. Or other caches in the Pass. Quote Link to comment
+Allanon Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Sorry all. I knew I was being a little sensitive and inflammatory in my reply. It's been a bad week. I appologize to all and specifically to M10B. M10B did ask for ideas and there were no exclusions of non-hiking caches that I can see with these conditions. So based on that, vertago is a good suggestion. Thanks. Cache machines are not because of the timing and the duration. True, and it was just an example. Event caches don't work out with this either again because of the timing. Oh, with M10B organizing it...I bet one could be arranged. Quote Link to comment
+Anonymous' Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I'll talk to my dad about it. Maybe he can take a day off of work. Quote Link to comment
+blindleader Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 The criteria suggest a max nine hour day. The presence of photographers (professional, I presume) suggests that the outing should include some scenic, or at least interesting, terrain and locations. I don't know how much the author's intent can be steered, but I suggest that an attempt be made to show him a bit of what Geocaching is really like. Large group hunts are not the norm and shouldn't be presented as the way it's usually done. So I think at least part of the day should be just one or two cachers doing their thing. If I wanted to show someone as much as possible of what Geocaching is about in one day, here's what I would try to include. One or two high value (scenic/interesting) hikes, less than two hours each, round trip. A short series of urban micros, including at least one evil hide. A short multi that includes some puzzling between the first and final stage. A puzzle cache. A couple of drive-up, guard-rail type caches should be easy to work into the itinerary. Total about ten caches. Quote Link to comment
Team Misguided Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 (edited) My first suggestion to the author had been Ebey Bluffs and Whidbey Island, but he nixed that as he felt it was too far to go. He might not realize how easy it is to get to Whidbey, but I think we may want to stick to "mainland" caches. Well according to this Ebey Bluff's fits the 2 hours from Seattle requirement. But if you want to stick with the boring mainland, then I'd suggest doing a section of caches along the Iron Horse Trail. (to include the tunnel of course) *edited to add that I know the link doesn't go to the Ebey Bluffs trailhead, I was just trying to make a quick point* Edited July 7, 2005 by Team Misguided Quote Link to comment
+Right Wing Wacko Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 (edited) I won't be able to even ask for the time off until tomorrow, so I'll get back to you then... I would really like to do this. Cache Suggestions: I know.... two of these are mine, but they are two that I am really proud of. Kelcema Lake About an hour east of Everett. A 2/3 mike hike with only about 100 feet of elevation gain to a nice subalpine lake in the Boulder River Wilderness. Barclay Lake Trail Again about 40 minutes east of Everett. About a mile hike on a flat trail thru old growth forest. The cache is hidden on the trail before the lake as I thought the lake area to busy for the cache to last. Great views of the North side of Mt Baring. The place is just begging for another cache... perhaps your group could place one! Iron Goat Trail What can I say.... it's a Mohai cache! An hour east of Everett from near the top of Stevens Pass. A hike along the old Great Northern Railroad grade and thru abandoned snowsheds. Lots of history! Several miles of easy hiking. Hey... I did it on my own so anyone can do it! [] This one also has the advantage of two other rather easy caches being hidden near the trailhead. Just about anything by GeoRoo or Mohai along US2 would probably also qualify! Edited July 8, 2005 by Right Wing Wacko Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 ...who get together regularly to do interesting, strange, dangerous, or downright bizarre things... That sounds like a vote for BFH, in which case I'm in. Quote Link to comment
+willcall Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 (edited) dadgum -- BFH is on my top 5 to do list, but I can't commit to a weekday! edit -- How did "dadgum" switch to "dadgum"? Funny software trick edit again - "d_mn" @#$#&$%$*% software! Edited July 7, 2005 by willcall Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 You should save that for Halloween night run. Quote Link to comment
+Shop99er Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 ...who get together regularly to do interesting, strange, dangerous, or downright bizarre things... That sounds like a vote for BFH, in which case I'm in. Well, if it winds up including BFH, I might have to be ill......I got sick leave..... Quote Link to comment
+Allanon Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 After my earlier rant, and and if a long hike with elevation gain is not involved, I'd like to participate as well... if I'm still welcome that is... Quote Link to comment
+AndrewRJ Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Depending on the time frame I may be able to make it. I would sure like to! Quote Link to comment
+Right Wing Wacko Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 After re-reading Moun10Bikes message I withdrawl my suggested caches and re-nominate BFH! What else could be more bizzare! I checked with the boss.... I've got the day off if I want it. Quote Link to comment
+evergreenhiker! Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I have to work...darn it! Mondays and Tuesdays are our busy days. Quote Link to comment
+Lolita Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Regardless of where, when, which cache, I'd love to join. I'm off work that day and can't think of anything I'd rather do. Hopefully the requirements will lend themselves to something special for the author to take away. Beautiful scenery . a unique hide , PNW geocaching hospitality ! Quote Link to comment
Moun10Bike Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 I'm liking the BFH suggestion! Quote Link to comment
MarcusArelius Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I'm liking the BFH suggestion! Cool! I am starting to feel symptoms in my eyes and legs. I just can't see going to work that day or stand to be there . I made the mistake of introducing the Boss to geocaching. I hope he is not tracking my logs and forume posts . Quote Link to comment
+Riddlers Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 While we can't make it, I would like to suggest that Anderson Island would make a good photo shoot as well as provide several different types of caches. We just did 14 on the Island in about 6 hours with over 50's group of four. The trip over where you have to find clues on the ferry, to the bushwackeres delight would show a deverse cache type. Quote Link to comment
+Prying Pandora Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I'm going to see if I can move my clients' appointments to a different day so I can attend this. (fingers crossed) Quote Link to comment
+OldBaldEagle Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I could make it. If there is still room, let me know. Quote Link to comment
fishiam Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 (edited) My 9 year old daughter (Miss K) and I would enjoy being part of this. In terms of geocaching experience I'd say we're past the novice stage but still learning lots of new tricks all the time. If there's room still for the two of us, let us know and I'll plan accordingly. peace, fishiam ps - What is BFH? I've read through the posts and it doesn't seem to be spelled out anywhere. Edited July 9, 2005 by fishiam Quote Link to comment
+Allanon Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 BFH = The Bloated, Festering Head of my First Victim Quote Link to comment
+The Navigatorz Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 (edited) If it hasn't been decided yet, I'd like to suggest 4 caches in the Mt. Index area which all appear to be great photography locations. I'd take the day off from work to do these. The 4 caches are within 4 miles of each other, but it appears the longest walk/hike to each is about 1/4 mile. The caches are: Mt. Baring View, What a View, Another Great View, and Vertigo View. Distance from Seattle is 56 miles, (from my place its 92 miles). Just a suggestion. If not this time, perhaps another day. Edit: Wooops, I re-read the thread and saw where these were already suggested. Edited July 10, 2005 by The Navigatorz Quote Link to comment
+Prying Pandora Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 I'm going to see if I can move my clients' appointments to a different day so I can attend this. (fingers crossed) I have almost all of them rescheduled. I'm in! Quote Link to comment
Ellylidan Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 If you bipod sacks of crap are going to come in mass and bring me dinner, please respect my home. I saw what you did to the lair of Fenny. Quote Link to comment
+hydnsek Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Well dang, go to Minneapolis on a business trip and the cool geocaching outings fill up before you find out about them! But I'd still like to be included if I'm not too late and fit any requirements. Many good suggestions in this thread! The Index area view caches are very scenic, but to me they don't provide as much a picture of geocaching as something that requires a bit more GPS work. I'm only saying this because you can basically drive to them, and the hides aren't very hard - it's all about the view! Which of course would be great for the photographer, but not entirely representative of caching. I like some of the other suggestions, about mixing a few kinds of caches, like a scenic one, an evil micro, a puzzle cache, a multi, etc. My contribution: I think Jester's Lake to Lake Micro Multi would be a great one - several clever cache hides along a scenic park route with a lake at either end. Of course, I too would like to do BFH....altho he'd surely think us wackos after that. Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 I like some of the other suggestions, about mixing a few kinds of caches, like a scenic one, an evil micro, a puzzle cache, a multi, etc. My contribution: I think Jester's Lake to Lake Micro Multi would be a great one - several clever cache hides along a scenic park route with a lake at either end. Thanks for the plug - your check is in the mail. Along the route of Lake to Lake are a number of other caches of all levels and types - simple trad caches, evil micros, interesting puzzles, etc. Most are listed on the cache page. Another benefit: you can have the cache hider along so you don't get skunked! Quote Link to comment
Moun10Bike Posted July 11, 2005 Author Share Posted July 11, 2005 I received some email from a respected source that indicates that BFH might not be a good choice for a group outing of this nature. So, I'd like to take that option off the table and look at other suggestions. Let's plan on making the decision by Friday. Quote Link to comment
+willcall Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Dismembered heads aren't good press? Quote Link to comment
+EraSeek Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 (edited) I have vacation, so I am open to go. If you do scary ladder, there are also several other nearby caches to hit, and you can make it there without the ferry ride. Of coarse anywhere near or on whidbey is a favorite of mine, but I'm willing to go just about anywhere the group wants. Also I'll add a suggested cache site if you want to hit just one that is a bit closer and an awesome spot. Skagit View from Craft Island http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?II...99e&LID=2123024 THERE IS A MINUS TIDE FROM 9AM TILL 2PM. L&R's series http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...dd-a04a4ecb171f along lake Kechaless is also a possible. Easy, fun, biking with a great scenic setting, and you can get a bit adventerous with the Kechaless Crossing II cache! (I probably spelled all that wrong) Edited July 12, 2005 by EraSeek Quote Link to comment
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