+Sileny Jizda Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Shortcut May Cost Geocachers (Link) Shortcut may cost geocachers Coshocton man cited after driving car onto football practice field By Joe Mizer The Times-Reporter Posted Dec 13, 2009 @ 11:52 PM The driver and passengers of this car, which was driven across a football practice field at Waterworks Park and was eventually stuck in the soft ground, were given a ride to a local business Sunday at New Philadelphia. An expedition into geocaching Sunday ended for three Coshocton men with Nathan C. Vestal, 24, of 1701 Orchard St. being charged by New Philadelphia police with criminal trespassing. Officer Ty Norris said Vestal, with two other Coshocton residents as passengers, drove his Chevrolet Corsica onto a football practice field behind the Waterworks Baseball Fields off Mill Ave. SW. A passerby reported seeing the vehicle stuck in the mud behind the ballfields at 3:18 p.m. Norris said Sunday night the vehicle will remain there until a towing company and New Philadelphia parks and recreation officials figure out a way to remove it without causing further damage. “About 20 feet of the practice field was torn up,” Norris said. He noted that Vestal drove onto the field “because they thought they could make it through.” Geocaching, according to its Internet Web site, is a high-tech treasure-hunting game played throughout the world by adventure seekers equipped with GPS devices.... Post your thoughts or stories. Quote Link to comment
+Gitchee-Gummee Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 ........and the gene-pool widens. Quote Link to comment
+brotherbill54 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 The following news article appeared on the front page of todays local newspaper, The Times-Reporter in New Philadelphia, Ohio. There was also an accompanying photograph showing the vehicle sunk in mud up to its axle behind the centerfield fence at the youth baseball field. There is no access road around this field; the cachers decided that it was to far to walk and tried to drive around on the grass instead. Cachers please show respect for other peoples property and privacy. This kind of bad press will only make it harder for our sport to be accepted in this community. Self-control and common sense people. Shortcut may cost geocachers Coshocton man cited after driving car onto football practice field. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Joe Mizer The Times-Reporter Posted Dec 13, 2009 @ 11:52 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- .An expedition into geocaching Sunday ended for three Coshocton, Ohio men with Nathan C. Vestal, 24, of 1701 Orchard St. being charged by New Philadelphia, Ohio police with criminal trespassing. Officer Ty Norris said Vestal, with two other Coshocton residents as passengers, drove his Chevrolet Corsica onto a football practice field behind the Waterworks Baseball Fields off Mill Ave. SW. A passerby reported seeing the vehicle stuck in the mud behind the ballfields at 3:18 p.m. Norris said Sunday night the vehicle will remain there until a towing company and New Philadelphia parks and recreation officials figure out a way to remove it without causing further damage. “About 20 feet of the practice field was torn up,” Norris said. He noted that Vestal drove onto the field “because they thought they could make it through.” Geocaching, according to its Internet Web site, is a high-tech treasure-hunting game played throughout the world by adventure seekers equipped with GPS devices. The basic idea is to locate hidden containers, called geocaches, outdoors and then share their experiences online. “Geocaching is enjoyed by people from all age groups, with a strong sense of community and support for the environment,” the Web site says. Norris said the men found the hidden geocache nearby while he was writing Vestal his citation, and while they were waiting for a tow truck. Once the tow truck driver arrived, they decided not to attempt to pull out the car. “They may have to wait until the ground freezes,” Norris said. He added that in addition to the citation, Vestal will be charged a towing fee and “whatever it costs the city to fix what was damaged.” Norris took the three men to a Bluebell Dr. NW business to await a ride back to Coshocton. He urges anyone doing geocaching to “just use common sense, that’s the primary thing.” Quote Link to comment
+WatchDog2020 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Thought I'd post the photo Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 ROFLMAO!!! there are a lot of foolish people in the world and as Geocaching grows in popularity you will find more and more of them hunting for caches. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Thought I'd post the photo Probably this cache, or possibly this one Either way, no one has logged a find since Black Friday. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 .... “just use common sense, that’s the primary thing.” Yup. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 ROFLMAO!!! there are a lot of foolish people in the world and as Geocaching grows in popularity you will find more and more of them hunting for caches. Yup. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 .... “just use common sense, that’s the primary thing.” Yup. Sadly it isn't as common as some other human traits. Quote Link to comment
+jellis Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) I hope they think twice next time they are in a situation like that. But they should have left the geocaching part out. But I guess you can't lie to the police. I agree it is not geocachings's fault for someone else's stupidity. We were going to try for a cache behind a school. The cache owner says the best way was to go through the school after school is out. We passed on it. There are still plenty of caches out ther Alamogul says. Edited December 14, 2009 by jellis Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 They probably would have had better traction on Astroturf. Quote Link to comment
+DragonsWest Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Stupid is as stupid does. Geocaching or not that was a less than brilliant conclusion to attempt driving a car across a sodden field. OTOH, they may now have set the world record for Most Obvious Geo Trail. Quote Link to comment
+ArcherDragoon Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Really don't think it is about respect as it is about stupidity...and common sense... They seemed to have a lack of common sense...and an over-abundance of the "DOH" factor... Quote Link to comment
+CacheFreakTim Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Self-control and common sense people. Or if you get caught doing something stupid dont mention Geocaching Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 When are people finally going to wise up and buy Jeeps. Corsicas are no good in the mud. Quote Link to comment
BCProspectors Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 The gene pool could use some chlorine. Quote Link to comment
+okie-wan Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 If your family tree looks like a phone pole............there's your sign! Quote Link to comment
+GeoGeeBee Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 The real question is, did they log the DNF? "Should have been a quick PNG but we had a little problem..." Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 The real question is, did they log the DNF? "Should have been a quick PNG but we had a little problem..." The article says the 2 passengers actually found the cache while the driver was being written his citation. Quote Link to comment
+GeoGeeBee Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 The real question is, did they log the DNF? "Should have been a quick PNG but we had a little problem..." The article says the 2 passengers actually found the cache while the driver was being written his citation. D'oh! So the question is, what did they write in the log? "Quick PNG, TFTC?" Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 So let me get this straight. The newspaper article basically says that some guy was being stupid while geocaching and that means geocaching is a stupid activity? OK, it doesn't say that. I would give the article writer credit for adding in the geocachers typically have a strong sense of commumity. They could have left out that the cacher was geocaching while he got stuck The writer could have rewritten the article to say that geocachers come from all walks of life, including those that don't have the best common sense. And this makes me wonder. What in the world makes a person think it's OK to drive a car on a sports field? What exactly ARE these people thinking?! Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I've merged the two topics regarding this incident. Post #1 and post #3 were the original posts of the two topics that have now been merged. Carry on. Quote Link to comment
+DragonsWest Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 OK, I was confused for a minute there, what with the 'Respect' title vanishing. Quote Link to comment
+Moose Mob Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Someone was looking for PNGs* today PNGs - Park 'n Get Stuck Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Stealth will be required during games. I guess they just figured that, well... since there weren't any ballgames going on... Quote Link to comment
+kh54s10 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 These are the same type of people that give GPS a bad name. I read a story about a year ago where someone drove their car down railroad track then said that the GPS said to go there. Yesterday my GPS tried to send me on a oneway road in my town in the wrong direction. I said "Stupid GPS" and ignored it - I knew where I was and where I was going anyway. Quote Link to comment
+Hoosier Ranger Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I think I see the problem: They thought it was too far to walk. That's a problem with too many geocachers nowadays. I try to make all of my hides so one has to walk or bike to find the cache. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Wait a minute-if this was in Ohio, why wasn't there an event there with temporary unpublished caches at every 528" along the fence for them to find on the way to the outfield? Quote Link to comment
+zoltig Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Well of all the bad luck!!... I think my Jeep would have made it across that field and back! Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 And with those new stealth tires you installed you wouldn't have left a mark either. Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Perhaps they could make it into an Earthcache. Quote Link to comment
+journey4truth Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Thankfully I plan to contribute to the gene pool by never having children. My stupidity dies with me. Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 (edited) The most interesting question this raises is the last line of the article... they may have to leave their car there until the ground freezes! Wonder how long that car will sit there, a beacon to the whole community "Here's your sign!". Every day as he walks past his car on his way to work you know he looks at it and thinks "If I ever get it back I'm buyin' some mudders!" Edited December 15, 2009 by TheAlabamaRambler Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 The most interesting question this raises is the last line of the article... they may have to leave their car there until the ground freezes! Wonder how long that car will sit there, a beacon to the whole community "Here's your sign!". Every day as he walks past his car on his way to work you know he looks at that it and thinks "Shoulda bought mud tires." I don't even think mud tires would have helped that car. It was destined to get stuck. I can't help but wonder if the cop asked the tow truck driver to leave it there to teach the guy a lesson. You know it can't be fun to see your car stuck waiting for the second bill from the tow truck company. Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I don't even think mud tires would have helped that car. It was destined to get stuck. I can't help but wonder if the cop asked the tow truck driver to leave it there to teach the guy a lesson. You know it can't be fun to see your car stuck waiting for the second bill from the tow truck company. The tow bill is nothing compared to what they are going to charge him to re-turf the field. Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I don't even think mud tires would have helped that car. It was destined to get stuck. I can't help but wonder if the cop asked the tow truck driver to leave it there to teach the guy a lesson. You know it can't be fun to see your car stuck waiting for the second bill from the tow truck company. The tow bill is nothing compared to what they are going to charge him to re-turf the field. Depending on his luck, the insurance company might pick up the tab for that. If he's smart, he would head out there with a shovel and some seed after the car is gone and fix it himself. Quote Link to comment
+DeadHead82 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Wow, opened up the forums after work tonight and what do i see!? Why that's my home town! Those are the ball fields at which I played up until high school. I've since moved away to complete school, but never thought in a million years I'd see something like this on a world-wide forum. The Tuscarawas River runs behind the ballfields. Not too far away is a water treatment facility, hence the name "Water Works Fields." No wonder it was soupy and muddy. It's a floodplain for crying out loud! I don't know what possessed the dude to try and get his car through there, but he sure paid for it. lol I'm still in shock that my little po-dunk hometown got some publicity, albeit bad press. The first thing i thought was "Leave it to good ol' Phila to come out with something like this." Sure, it's good for a laugh I guess but, unfortunately, people make bad decisions no matter what their activity of choice. I'm sure when I get home for Christmas my mom will that that article clipped and show it to me. Now I can tell her it hasn't been just the talk of the town, the story reached a far wider audience! Quote Link to comment
+geodarts Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 To some people the entire world is a parking place; to others the world is just a road. This kind of stuff is not limited to cachers but it does give new meaning to the idea of drive up finds. Quote Link to comment
+pklong Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 The article says the 2 passengers actually found the cache while the driver was being written his citation. "Took McToy, left Chevrolet" ? Quote Link to comment
+joukkusisu Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 "Took McToy, left Chevrolet" ? Ding ding. Winner. Quote Link to comment
+brslk Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 "Took McToy, left Chevrolet" ? Ding ding. Winner. Not trading up... I'd rather have the McToy... Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 These are the same type of people that give GPS a bad name. I read a story about a year ago where someone drove their car down railroad track then said that the GPS said to go there. Yesterday my GPS tried to send me on a oneway road in my town in the wrong direction. I said "Stupid GPS" and ignored it - I knew where I was and where I was going anyway. Yes, there are a lot of "Old School" Truck Drivers that talk smack all day about GPS. I guess that they don't realize that it's nothing more than a glorified electronic map. They say things like..."If you need a GPS you shouldn't be driving a truck" of "If you can't read a map..." I guess they think drivers are just blindly staring at the GPS and driving like they were in a simulator?? Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 DeadHead82... if its still there when you go home for Christmas, pictures? Quote Link to comment
+Scuba4jews Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 To quote Bill Engvall: Here's your sign. Wear it with pride. Quote Link to comment
+DeadHead82 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 @knowschad: Totally! The ballfields aren't very far from my mom's. I doubt the local police will let the car sit there for very long. They've probably winched it out already. However, I will go snap a picture of the aftermath. I'll go ahead a figure out what cache it was so i can find the whereabouts. Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 DeadHead82... if its still there when you go home for Christmas, pictures? If it's still there by Christmas, someone will have slapped a hide-a-key on it and tried to get it published as a geocache. Quote Link to comment
+power69 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Shortcut May Cost Geocachers (Link) Shortcut may cost geocachers Coshocton man cited after driving car onto football practice field By Joe Mizer The Times-Reporter Posted Dec 13, 2009 @ 11:52 PM The driver and passengers of this car, which was driven across a football practice field at Waterworks Park and was eventually stuck in the soft ground, were given a ride to a local business Sunday at New Philadelphia. An expedition into geocaching Sunday ended for three Coshocton men with Nathan C. Vestal, 24, of 1701 Orchard St. being charged by New Philadelphia police with criminal trespassing. Officer Ty Norris said Vestal, with two other Coshocton residents as passengers, drove his Chevrolet Corsica onto a football practice field behind the Waterworks Baseball Fields off Mill Ave. SW. A passerby reported seeing the vehicle stuck in the mud behind the ballfields at 3:18 p.m. Norris said Sunday night the vehicle will remain there until a towing company and New Philadelphia parks and recreation officials figure out a way to remove it without causing further damage. “About 20 feet of the practice field was torn up,” Norris said. He noted that Vestal drove onto the field “because they thought they could make it through.” Geocaching, according to its Internet Web site, is a high-tech treasure-hunting game played throughout the world by adventure seekers equipped with GPS devices.... Post your thoughts or stories. so was it a 35mm film cannister with magnet stuck to top of goalposts? even standing on roof of car wouldn't raise you high enough. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 But come spring thaw it will be a traveling cache and we all know those cannot be published. Quote Link to comment
+Too Tall John Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 (edited) Thought I'd post the photo Probably this cache, or possibly this one Either way, no one has logged a find since Black Friday. One's been logged now, and on the right date... Edited December 18, 2009 by Too Tall John Quote Link to comment
+rob3k Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Thought I'd post the photourl=http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=d80f1f26-bcd1-4dff-96a4-34f7ecea3cb8]Probably this cache[/url], or possibly this one Either way, no one has logged a find since Black Friday. One's been logged now, and on the right date... Could that really be it? It's all of 300 feet from parking. Quote Link to comment
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