+JohnE5 Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 I'm planning on hiding 26 mirco letterboxes. Each has a letter of the alphabet stamp inside. Each letter box will be titled "Reason 1,2,3, etc. to not find a micro" I will then place a puzzle cache that has a message spelled out using those numbers stamps, i.e. 5=G 22=a. What I need help with is coming up with 26 reason to/not to, find/not find a micro/geocache. I'm not sure if this series might offend some cachers since they love to find/hide micros. On the other hand I don't want people of filter them directly out because of their size. I plan on the puzzle to be huge container deep in the woods to make up for all the micro-spew in the area. What great reasons can you think of? Quote
AZcachemeister Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 OK! Reason 'L'. Lame Locations! Micro caches are seldom located at really cool places you would have gone to otherwise (except for the smiley). Quote
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) Reason G - You can't leave Geocoins in them. (edited to give the Reason Letter) Edited October 5, 2009 by BBWolf+3Pigs Quote
AZcachemeister Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 'M' Can't use the 'M' word. The cache is probably a micro due to an excessive number of non-cachers that would find a larger container and steal it. Quote
+Cristo9FP Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) Reason #22 not to find micros - You can't leave geocoins in them. Well that's just not true. I have found coins in at least 3 micros, and left the same number. Granted, they're not common, but I wouldn't say "can't". How about Tiny logs? Re-rolling a nano log often takes longer than finding it. Edited October 5, 2009 by Cristo9FP Quote
AZcachemeister Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 'T' TRADES! No room for trades! There is room for argument that the proliferation of micros has diminished the interest in trading and/or has reduced the overall quality of trades. Quote
AZcachemeister Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Reason #22 not to find micros - You can't leave geocoins in them. Well that's just not true. I have found coins in at least 3 micros, and left the same number. Granted, they're not common, but I wouldn't say "can't". How about Tiny logs? Re-rolling a nano log often takes longer than finding it. That should be: 'U' For unsignable log! The dang thing is just too small to handle, and is often full when you get there. Quote
AZcachemeister Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 'V' Verbose logs not accepted. Back in the day, the physical log in the cache might have a full page written by each of the finders. Nowadays most folks just sign their name, and the more descriptive logs are done online. Quote
+Roaring_Fork Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) My Reasons to not have them: N = You can only look at so many newspaper boxes. E = A small magnet stuck to a large electrical box - not much fun in that. R = How do I roll the log up to fit in that micro???? L = If I have to lift up another light pole lid I'm going to scream!!!! All in all, I don't like the micro's but they do give me a smiley face on my cache lists. Edited October 5, 2009 by Roaring_Fork Quote
+Allanon Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Your kidding write? Why wood you waist your time with something like this? Quote
+KBI Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 You're hiding 26 new micros ... as a protest against micros? Quote
+Isonzo Karst Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Dude, you're offering people 26 micros before they can get to the big cache, while you yourself characterize your area as suffering from "micro-spew"? and your thinking on this is....?????? 26 small or regular trading caches, leading to a huge trading cache, that I can understand. But 26 micros?? carping about micros? color me confused Please note, I am NOT anti-micro, and I've never bought into the "largest cache the area will support" notion. I'm just struggling with an anti-micro micro series. Especially with an expressed concern that people will filter them based on size. Perhaps that's a clue that people really don't want to hunt them? If you want to combat "micro-spew", try hiding trading caches. Quote
GOF and Bacall Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Perhaps the OP is actually looking for a way to force encourage folks to find a bunch of micro caches. Quote
+Crafty Turtle Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 F for Family Fun. ...microcaches are not fun for families. (no swaps, no rewards, too hard for the littlest kids to find) Also F is for frustration and fiendishness. Quote
+Wogus! Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Especially with an expressed concern that people will filter them based on size. Perhaps that's a clue that people really don't want to hunt them? YES! Thank you for saying that. If I don't WANT to see a ton of Micros on my PQ then I shouldn't have to. Market this multi to your TARGET AUDIENCE: Micro lovers. Leave those of us who don't like Micros, and don't want to spend our time hunting them down, to do our own thing, please and thank you. Quote
+sbell111 Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Especially with an expressed concern that people will filter them based on size. Perhaps that's a clue that people really don't want to hunt them? YES! Thank you for saying that. If I don't WANT to see a ton of Micros on my PQ then I shouldn't have to. Market this multi to your TARGET AUDIENCE: Micro lovers. Leave those of us who don't like Micros, and don't want to spend our time hunting them down, to do our own thing, please and thank you. While I agree that the OP's logic appears to be flawed, it should be noted that no one is forcing you to do anything. Quote
+Snoogans Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Especially with an expressed concern that people will filter them based on size. Perhaps that's a clue that people really don't want to hunt them? YES! Thank you for saying that. If I don't WANT to see a ton of Micros on my PQ then I shouldn't have to. Market this multi to your TARGET AUDIENCE: Micro lovers. Leave those of us who don't like Micros, and don't want to spend our time hunting them down, to do our own thing, please and thank you. While I agree that the OP's logic appears to be flawed, it should be noted that no one is forcing you to do anything. Yes, but take a moment to soak up the irony. I haven't seen so much irony in a thread since TG coined the term "argue spew." This could be fun. Quote
+carleenp Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 A=Angst in the forums caused by micro caches. Quote
+bflentje Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Don't letterboxes have to be big enough to hold a stamper and a stamp log book? Smallest LB I've ever seen would be considered a medium sized small. Quote
+KBI Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 I = Intolerance of other people's caching prefences. Quote
+StarBrand Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 A=Angst in the forums caused by micro caches. Good to see a reference to angst - its been a while (hi Carleenp!!) S=Sigh - I can see where to look from 10 parking spaces away Quote
+L0ne.R Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Don't letterboxes have to be big enough to hold a stamper and a stamp log book? Smallest LB I've ever seen would be considered a medium sized small. It can be done: Although, I don't think this hider has considered that the logsheet will very likely get wet and ruin any signature stamp images. Quote
+GrateBear Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 A reason to hide a micro: You don't have to gather an armful of bark/dead branches/rocks to cover the ammo can with. Quote
+Castle Mischief Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 31 replies and nobody has harped on the use of commercially available stamps in a letterbox hybrid? I'm shocked. Quote
+Wogus! Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 While I agree that the OP's logic appears to be flawed, it should be noted that no one is forcing you to do anything.Did I somehow imply I felt I was being forced to do something?? That being said, 1. The logic truly is... um... tortured, in my opinion and 2. I see with some frequency hiders of Micros trying to... how do I put this delicately... disguise the fact, shall I say, that the cache in question IS in fact a Micro (most commonly by stretching the guidelines and listing them as a "Small"). Now, maybe I'm reading OP incorrectly but somehow, to my mind, the comment about not wanting these to be to be filtered out (by their Micro status) smacked a bit, possibly, of dodging the issue that these Micros are in fact Micros. Why else would the topic even have been mentioned? Now with all THAT being said, if you want to hide Micros, please, by all means hide Micros! Woohoo... Go nuts!! But LIST them as Micros and let me filter them out if that's what I want to do. Quote
+rallyo_lover Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 P = pine needles sticking into your hands when trying to find the micro We have a plethora of micros in trees around here! C = challenging for new cachers Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) M for "Meh". (The only one worth anything in my list). A: Angst B: Bitter Disappointment. Oh, gee, look at the dumpster. It’s green. C: Could have been visiting the in-laws having more fun| Crappy Logs D: DPM. E: Everyone hates them. F: Funfactor Zero|| FOUND THE FU$%#R! (alternate version of FTF for Micros). G: Garbage Hides: Garbage location: Garbage Can hide. H: Hairy Stuff on the cache. (aka Mold). I: Idiots and Muggles all around. J: Justifiable Homicide if you should kill a micro placer. K: Kill me please, I found a LPC. L: Lame locations. LPC!||Location, Location, Location (they break all three rules). M: Meh, Meh, Freaking Meh, and More Meh. N: Needle in the haystack hides are NO substitute for creative.||Thanks for the needle stick (while lookign for the Micro amonst the trash). O: Oh, No, Not another Micro (hey it's a poem and a lament). P: Peer review: Would your peers approve? NO!||Poor containers. Q: Quiet what’s that sound? Traffic.|| Quality? Don't make me laugh. R: Really, You brought me here for this? S: Sucks the fun right out of caching||Sleep Inducing cache. T: Terrible container types.: TFTC logs U:Ugly Locations|| U R the kind of person who likes typing in L33T and finding LPC’s. V: Very Short Logs|| W: Wet and soggy. X: eXasperation Y: You will never get back the part of your life you spend looking for the micro||Yawn. Z: Zero Funfactor||Zoolander Types enjoy them. Edited October 5, 2009 by Renegade Knight Quote
Dinoprophet Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 You're hiding 26 new micros ... as a protest against micros? I've never understood the ironic micro hide either. Eventually, they'll outnumber the sincere micros. Quote
+JohnE5 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) Thanks everyone for the great reasons! By the way I was going for more of a tongue-in-cheek series. Micro's have their place in geocaching. I plan on placing them in out of the way farmland that no one would care to place anything. Micros would be ideal for this farmland with a lot of suspicious farmers anything larger would most certainly get the cops called. A cacher making a quick stop at a guardrail or stop sign would be a much better fit for the area. Just remember, you don't live near me, if you did you would know I put a lot of work into each cache. I will not be tossing film canisters out the window and calling it a cache. I have a method that will prevent any leaking micros. (And no, it is not placing them in an ammo can.) You can easily check my profile and see that I place all different sizes. Before I moved to this area it was NOTHING but micros placed by one cacher 15 miles East of me. Again thanks for all the reasons not to hide or find. How about all the reasons TO hide or find Micros now? Edit for spelling. Edited October 5, 2009 by JohnE5 Quote
+webscouter. Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Reasons to find a micro. Q-Quick D-Discreet C-Close by Quote
+brodiebunch Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 One good reason is that you can wreak havoc on the area where the micro is allegedly hidden. Quote
+wimseyguy Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 S is for snob, as in looking for mircos (sic) is beneath my caching ethos. Quote
+carleenp Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 How about all the reasons TO hide or find Micros now? A=Avoiding Angst in the woods from ants, animals, and additional biological items. Quote
+NYPaddleCacher Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 D Damp logs, almost every time. or D - Dead horse topic on the forums. Quote
+Castle Mischief Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 I have a method that will prevent any leaking micros. (And no, it is not placing them in an ammo can.) You can't just toss that out there and then move on (like a film can on the highway). Spill it. What's your trick? Quote
+JohnE5 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Posted October 5, 2009 I have a method that will prevent any leaking micros. (And no, it is not placing them in an ammo can.) You can't just toss that out there and then move on (like a film can on the highway). Spill it. What's your trick? Think rain coat. Quote
+webscouter. Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Your going to stuff a film canister inside a condom?? EEEEWWW. Quote
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) My Reasons to not have them: ... L = If I have to lift up another light pole lid I'm going to scream!!!! Y = Why do what you don't like? You don't have to lift that skirt. Really. You can just walk away. Edited October 5, 2009 by TheAlabamaRambler Quote
+Castle Mischief Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 I have a method that will prevent any leaking micros. (And no, it is not placing them in an ammo can.) You can't just toss that out there and then move on (like a film can on the highway). Spill it. What's your trick? Think rain coat. Oh tell me you're not... You wouldn't... Quote
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