+Headhardhat Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Okay there is nothing like asking the experts so I am.. I am making a GeoSnippits tutorial to show a bunch of examples of how NOT to hide a geocache and I would love your ideas and experiences with this. From publishing the cache page BEFORE you actually hide it to hiding a .45c no name brand piece of plastic containers. What examples of bad placements by noobs and not so noob would you like to see in the video. The intent of this thread is not to point fingers but to help new geocachers become better informed and overall save the rest of us unneeded greif. Get your popcorn out and lets get this list started: - Publishing a geocache and not actually hiding the cache first! - Cheap inexpensive (non waterproof) plastic containers in environments with a lot of rain/snow. - Hiding cammied geocaches next to bridges, goverment buildings, historical sites. . . . Thanks in advance, -HHH Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) In a narrow residential alley with houses on both sides and chainlink fences. Coords zero out in middle of alley with hundereds of hiding spots within 30 feet - mostly in the yards. Nano or micro inside of an active (hot) electrical box. Some container inside a black plastic trashbag - bad camo - just turns wet and moldy in the bag. Placed on private property with no permission from the rotweiller owning home owner. Edited March 30, 2009 by StarBrand Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Don't hide caches in "full view" of homes, and businesses without the knowledge of those who can see the strange activity occurring in front or behind them. This is my biggest gripe with cachers who don't think things through before they hide caches. Don't hide caches you can't maintain. Don't hide caches where you supply additional waypoints for access, that deliberately force you to skirt no-trespassing signs. Don't hide caches on power transfers, or under lamppost covers. Do hide caches in scenic locations, and or places that afford a history lesson to the finders. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 In a narrow residential alley with houses on both sides and chainlink fences. Coords zero out in middle of alley with hundereds of hiding spots within 30 feet - mostly in the yards. Nano or micro inside of an active (hot) electrical box. Some container inside a black plastic trashbag - bad camo - just turns wet and moldy in the bag. I can't stress enough (so I'll do it) what a horrible idea wrapping caches in plastic trashbags is. They attract, rather than repel condensation. I once saw in a military survival book that hanging plastic sheets in the woods is a good way to collect emergency drinking water. This seems to be a regional practice. I used to regularly visit (but no longer do) a metropolitan area where most of the regulars were wrapped in plastic garbage bags on a monkey-see, monkey-do basis. I won't mention any names, but this is the most prominent metropolitan area in Northeast Pa. Quote Link to comment
+wiseye Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Do not use any human body parts as part of your cache, it freaks out some people. Quote Link to comment
+SaltercreaseRangers Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Do not leave military markings on ammo boxes Do not use ammo boxes in urban environments Do not list underwater caches as 1/1 Do not list 35mm film pot caches as Small Do not plant a micro at the end of a 5 mile hike Quote Link to comment
+amianda Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Don't forget to post parking coords if doing so will help others avoid thinking your cache is in a restricted area or private property or whatever. Don't ignore needs maintenance logs on your cache listing page - even a 'thanks for the heads up, i'll get to it in (insert timeframe here)' note will be appreciated by an eager cacher. Don't provide encrypted clues if they are only going to repeat something stated in the description of the cache verbatim. Not helpful. Don't hide another magnetic key box 600 ft from another identical urban cache 'just because you can'. Try to make hides interesting in their genius or their location as much as possible. Cache density in an area is nice, but creativity is well appreciated! (GS Forum Community: Please don't kill me! ) As a relative newbie that's all I got. Quote Link to comment
+ThirstyMick Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Don't hide a cache behind a store (on private property!) in a pile of garbage. Wouldn't think it'd need to be said, but I've unfortunately seen it. Quote Link to comment
+kahanamoku Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I'm new, but I'm going to suggest not hiding a cache on a public basketball court in the ghetto of a major metropolitan city, about 6 inches from the house next door to it. I won't soon forget my 5th find. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Don't hide a cache behind a store (on private property!) in a pile of garbage. Wouldn't think it'd need to be said, but I've unfortunately seen it. Snat? Quote Link to comment
+Cache O'Plenty Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Don't hide any on school property - especially elementary schools. This includes Preschools!!!! Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) Do not hide anything that might construed to be a bomb by the movie-watching public. No wires, clocks, watches, circuit boards, blinking lights, or containers constructed of pipes or pipe-resembling objects. Do not hide anything that you wouldn't want to find yourself. Edited March 30, 2009 by Castle Mischief Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Don't hide a cache that causes the faction of doofie finders to do their "gee I'm too stupid not to tear up the cache area" routine. They are out there and amazingly they are eager. Quote Link to comment
+Fustrate Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 It's a little different than the initial placement, but if you show up to a cache that says it's a 5 gallon bucket and it's not there, don't replace it with a logbook in a plastic bag! Saddest find ever Quote Link to comment
+tozainamboku Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 You could go a few ways with this Perhaps a video on caches that violate the guidelines for placing a cache. Place the cache where you know the agency or property owner doesn't allow caches. Don't get permission where you need to get permission. Use shovels, trowels, or other pointy objects to provide a hiding spot for your cache. Deface private or public property to provide a hiding place, a clue, or a logging method. Place a caches in areas sensitive to increased traffic such as archaeological or historic sites. Place the cache near active railroad tracks. Hide cache near or on military bases or near, on, or under structures that could be considered potential targets for terrorist attack such as highway bridges, dams, government buildings, elementary and secondary schools, and airports. Hide caches you don't plan to maintain or that are so far away from where you live that you can't maintain. Place caches less than .1 miles from existing caches. Use the cache page as an agenda or hide a cache for commercial reason without first getting approval from Groundspeak. A video on ways to make sure your cache will get muggled or need a lot of maintenance. (Actually many of these are covered in the guidelines as well) Don't think carefully about how your container and the actions of geocachers will be perceived by the public. Use an ammo box with the original military markings or a PVC pipe where it may cause alarm if discovered. Select a container that can't withstand the environment where it is placed, especially one that will get wet inside leaving logs that you can't write on. A video on what kind of caches someone doesn't enjoy finding. I hope you don't go this way. Quote Link to comment
+Fustrate Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) stupid IPB, double post Edited March 30, 2009 by Fustrate Quote Link to comment
greenworldfeather Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Okay there is nothing like asking the experts so I am.. I am making a GeoSnippits tutorial to show a bunch of examples of how NOT to hide a geocache and I would love your ideas and experiences with this. From publishing the cache page BEFORE you actually hide it to hiding a .45c no name brand piece of plastic containers. What examples of bad placements by noobs and not so noob would you like to see in the video. The intent of this thread is not to point fingers but to help new geocachers become better informed and overall save the rest of us unneeded greif. Get your popcorn out and lets get this list started: - Publishing a geocache and not actually hiding the cache first! - Cheap inexpensive (non waterproof) plastic containers in environments with a lot of rain/snow. - Hiding cammied geocaches next to bridges, goverment buildings, historical sites. . . . Thanks in advance, -HHH That is true, unless you have something like a lot of bad weather coming on soon. Or you are ordering something over the internet, and you are just waiting for it to come in the mail. However, there are two simple alternatives. A. You can tell the reviewer not o publish it yet, or B. You can just disable it untyil it gets in place, which is hopefully very soon. However A is usually preferred. Thanks for reading this and have a great day. gwf Quote Link to comment
+JoesBar Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Do not inclued useless clues. (plenty of threads about that.) Think long and hard about hiding caches on playground equipment. not everyone has a small child to take caching. adult males look really odd at playgrounds. DO think about those seeking the cache. Just because you could hide it quickly and go unnoticed, all of the seekers are going to be there longer. Quote Link to comment
greenworldfeather Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Now here is a question. If you don't bury it, is it okay? Like putting a container, especailly a larger one that could still be picked up and carried away, just a couple inches into the ground or in cement in a hole in the ground so it cannot be stolen, or at least so it causes great difficulty in doing so. Or putting a stump or the bottom of a rock just barely into the ground so it still looks like it is there, so as to not attract so much attention. Now that, I would assume, would be okay. ANyway, I have said my part, now I will let other people comment. Thank you and have a great day. gwf Quote Link to comment
+Y2KOTA Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 DO NOT hide caches on Rail Road right of way. DO NOT hide caches on Rail Road signal equipment, power boxs, X-ing gates etc...... No madder how old or abanded the equipment looks, It's still on Railroad property!!!! Quote Link to comment
+GRANPA ALEX Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Don't use un-washed food containers (ie:peanut butter jars) with matches or lighter in them . . . squirrels will start forest fires! Quote Link to comment
+Happy Bubbles Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Don`t hide cache in a delicate or sensitive area. Hide a micro in an ancient stone wall and people will pick apart the wall to find it, and put a cache in a field of delicate flowers and those flowers will be trampled before long. Quote Link to comment
+KJcachers Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 don't take an old plastic cigar tube, stuff a scrap of paper in it and drop it just about anywhere you feel like just to run up your number of owned caches. Also, Don't place a magnetic nano with such a small piece of paper in it that only 3 people can sign it before it's full. I've seen way too many of these to make them fun any more. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 (edited) Make sure you read the guidelines and really read them. Don't skim them or rotely check the box that said you did as if you were agreeing to installing a software package. As far as don'ts, if you want your cache to last long, don't place them where searchers will easily be observed. Don't place them where residents might be annoyed by a sudden influx of strangers. Don't place them where everybody's dogs start barking everytime someone searches for the cache. Above all, don't place a cache for the sake of placing a cache. Make sure there is a reason you are bringing people to that spot. If the only reason for bringing people to that location is for the cache, choose another location. Edited March 31, 2009 by briansnat Quote Link to comment
+ThirstyMick Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Don't hide a cache behind a store (on private property!) in a pile of garbage. Wouldn't think it'd need to be said, but I've unfortunately seen it. Snat? Nah, he just trades out the logbook Quote Link to comment
+msrubble Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Bad coordinates, whether deliberate or due to carelessness. Just throwing something in the grassy field/raspberry thicket/stand of cattails. Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Bottom line is, don't hide anything anywhere, always ask for permission, and never leave the sidewalk. Quote Link to comment
+zoltig Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Above all, don't place a cache for the sake of placing a cache. Make sure there is a reason you are bringing people to that spot. If the only reason for bringing people to that location is for the cache, choose another location. DITTO! If you are planting caches just to ramp up smilies... you're just polluting, not geocaching. Quality. Not Quantity! Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Above all, don't place a cache for the sake of placing a cache. Make sure there is a reason you are bringing people to that spot. If the only reason for bringing people to that location is for the cache, choose another location. DITTO! If you are planting caches just to ramp up smilies... you're just polluting, not geocaching. Quality. Not Quantity! HUGE My gawd, why on earth would the OP ask such a ridiculous question in the national forums? By the time everyone weighs in, you might as well give up caching because not a darn thing is allowed if these people had their way. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Above all, don't place a cache for the sake of placing a cache. Make sure there is a reason you are bringing people to that spot. If the only reason for bringing people to that location is for the cache, choose another location. DITTO! If you are planting caches just to ramp up smilies... you're just polluting, not geocaching. Quality. Not Quantity! HUGE My gawd, why on earth would the OP ask such a ridiculous question in the national forums? By the time everyone weighs in, you might as well give up caching because not a darn thing is allowed if these people had their way. You seem rather pessimistic today. Everything OK? Quote Link to comment
+rosebud55112 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Don't place caches in a location which will flood out during a nice January thaw, then refreeze into a solid block of ice until the true March meltoff. Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Above all, don't place a cache for the sake of placing a cache. Make sure there is a reason you are bringing people to that spot. If the only reason for bringing people to that location is for the cache, choose another location. DITTO! If you are planting caches just to ramp up smilies... you're just polluting, not geocaching. Quality. Not Quantity! HUGE My gawd, why on earth would the OP ask such a ridiculous question in the national forums? By the time everyone weighs in, you might as well give up caching because not a darn thing is allowed if these people had their way. You seem rather pessimistic today. Everything OK? Had a bad night last night. Also not sure why I torture myself by reading some of these silly threads, over and over again. Quote Link to comment
+Dread_Pirate_Bruce Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 When you place a cache, double check your coords. When you write up the cache page, double check your entry of the coords. When your cache is published, look at it on the "Geocaching.com Google Map" uusing the satellite view and really zoom in on it to see that your coords are good. DO NOT ASSUME THAT YOUR ERROR AND THE SEARCHER'S ERROR WILL CANCEL OUT AND TAKE HIM OR HER TO THE EXACT RIGHT SPOT. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Follow the guidelines and hide caches that you would like to find. Do not violate the guidelines or hide caches that you would not like to find. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Above all, don't place a cache for the sake of placing a cache. Make sure there is a reason you are bringing people to that spot. If the only reason for bringing people to that location is for the cache, choose another location. Best post by far, to an already worthy thread. Take Pride in your Hide. Quote Link to comment
+at play by jc/eaglei Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I think there should be an unwritten rule or a rule of thumb that a person should find at least 50 caches before they start hiding caches, most caches that are way over rated in difficulty are from folks that have few finds themselves. now I know there are exceptions, but in general good caches come from folks who have found 100 or more. I wish I would have read the one about double check your coords! Quote Link to comment
Waggot Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 There are lots and lots of don'ts, but I'll try not to repeat what's already been written. Don't place huge rocks on top of the cache to hide it. These are difficult/dangerous for people to remove (especially children) and tend to crack plastic cache boxes. Remember, your idea of manageable rocks might be different to a smaller person's idea of manageable rocks... Don't feel you have to hide a sandwich-sized klip-lock lunchbox just because that's what everyone else does. Variety is the spice of life. One of the coolest caches I found recently was a home-made metal nano smaller than my fingernail, with a little pattern on it. I'm on the hunt for some more interesting waterproof containers too - there are quite a few available online if you really look! Do remember to check your cache after the winter if you can. I've visited lots of soggy caches recently after a very cold, wet winter here in Scotland. May your day be filled with sunshine! Quote Link to comment
+tozainamboku Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 You could go a few ways with this caches that violate the guidelines for placing a cache. ways to make sure your cache will get muggled or need a lot of maintenance. caches someone doesn't enjoy finding Make sure you read the guidelines and really read them. Don't skim them or rotely check the box that said you did as if you were agreeing to installing a software package. As far as don'ts, if you want your cache to last long, don't place them where searchers will easily be observed. Don't place them where residents might be annoyed by a sudden influx of strangers. Don't place them where everybody's dogs start barking everytime someone searches for the cache. Above all, don't place a cache for the sake of placing a cache. Make sure there is a reason you are bringing people to that spot. If the only reason for bringing people to that location is for the cache, choose another location. Looks like briansnat went all three ways. I probably would not have mentioned this but for the enthusiastic response to his third point. I wonder how all those people seem to know exactly who is hiding caches just for the sake of placing a cache. I can agree that hiding a cache that also takes me to a unique place - one with a view or where I can learn about a historical event that took place there is a bonus. But I can't figure out why a cache needs to do this. A cache only needs to give me something to find using a GPS. Anything extra beyond this may or may not add to my enjoyment. The lack of this should not detract from my enjoyment, although I will admit that if I'm urban caching and start to find the locations to be uninteresting or, even more so, unpleasant; I will decide I'm not having fun and stop an either stop caching for the day or be a little more selective in which caches I stop at. I've been to a couple of what some people call lame caches where it seems the hider had a "reason" for placing the cache there. One was a lamppost hide in a pharmacy parking lot. It turns out that at one time this corner was the site of James Jefferies barn. Another was a guardrail hide near a tunnel on a canyon road. On the cache page the hider had a picture showing that tunnel in a scene from the movie "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World". Another was a nano near a gas station on a busy suburban street corner. Here the local historical society had places not one but three historic markers - I believe they were that the site was once the local farmers market, the site where the circus would put up their tent when they came to town, and the site of some revival meeting that took place in the 1920's. I DNF'd a cache this weekend in a parking lot that had a small kiosk that sold cigarettes. The cache owner took the time on the cache page to talk about how in the days before digital photography, kiosk where you dropped off your film for developing were in many parking lots like this one, and that's what this originally was. In each of these case I didn't particular find the caches any different experience than the many caches in similar locations where the cache owner simple put on the page "This is a quick park and grab for those who want to increase there numbers". This is particularly true when caching paperless. Caches that have something extra beyond the cache hunt and the cache itself are often memorable and for many people these extras enhance their enjoyment. The definition of this extra and what is "Wow" enough to qualify is subjective. Rather than telling people, "Don't hide caches unless you have a reason for bringing me to this place besides the cache" we should accept that hider has their reason for picking that spot and they may not have much they care to share on the cache page. If someone hides a cache in a location you especially enjoyed, feel free to thank them for that experience and write about it your log. If the site was not especially interesting for you then perhaps a short log is in order. There are many cachers whose expectation is only that there is a cache to find at the location, and they don't go demanding that hiders cater to their requirements for "Wow-ness" in location choices. Quote Link to comment
+ThirstyMick Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 By far the best cache hiding advice I've gotten (this was probably when I had 1 or 2 hides) was "hide caches in places you don't mind going back to" Not just great advice because it means maintenance isn't a chore, but great advice because it means you're taking people to a places you love hopefully they'll feel the same. Quote Link to comment
+amianda Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Rather than telling people, "Don't hide caches unless you have a reason for bringing me to this place besides the cache" we should accept that hider has their reason for picking that spot and they may not have much they care to share on the cache page. If someone hides a cache in a location you especially enjoyed, feel free to thank them for that experience and write about it your log. If the site was not especially interesting for you then perhaps a short log is in order. There are many cachers whose expectation is only that there is a cache to find at the location, and they don't go demanding that hiders cater to their requirements for "Wow-ness" in location choices. in my opinion, good caches are a combination of interesting location and challenge of the find. I don't mind picking up a lamp post hide or a key box on a fence or something that doesn't fit those descriptions, because I do like to find hidden things, but I appreciate it more when it is clear the CO put a little thought into the hide. Historic sites like you've mentioned are good. I learn something about the location that way. But I've also found a very difficult hide in a parking lot of an abandoned building recently. The site was nothing to the hide really, but the container/hide was extremely clever and the camo tied in with a bit of history. It was a challenge. Finding the magnetic mint tin on the bottom of the newspaper dispenser, not so much. Again, not saying these hides are worthless. Just I find them to be less satisfying than other types of hides. Quote Link to comment
+trailpuppy Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 (edited) Rather than telling people, "Don't hide caches unless you have a reason for bringing me to this place besides the cache" we should accept that hider has their reason for picking that spot and they may not have much they care to share on the cache page. If someone hides a cache in a location you especially enjoyed, feel free to thank them for that experience and write about it your log. If the site was not especially interesting for you then perhaps a short log is in order. There are many cachers whose expectation is only that there is a cache to find at the location, and they don't go demanding that hiders cater to their requirements for "Wow-ness" in location choices. in my opinion, good caches are a combination of interesting location and challenge of the find. I don't mind picking up a lamp post hide or a key box on a fence or something that doesn't fit those descriptions, because I do like to find hidden things, but I appreciate it more when it is clear the CO put a little thought into the hide. Historic sites like you've mentioned are good. I learn something about the location that way. But I've also found a very difficult hide in a parking lot of an abandoned building recently. The site was nothing to the hide really, but the container/hide was extremely clever and the camo tied in with a bit of history. It was a challenge. Finding the magnetic mint tin on the bottom of the newspaper dispenser, not so much. Again, not saying these hides are worthless. Just I find them to be less satisfying than other types of hides. A little over a week ago a friend and I were so pleased to find more than 70 caches in one day WITHOUT bumping into 1 single LPH. I wonder if that's some sort of obscure record? Anyway, lot's of great replies in this thread. Edited March 31, 2009 by trailpuppy Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 My contributions... Don't hide a cache just because you have a container (see threads about seed caches). Find a good location first then use a container which is most appropriate for that environment. Don't leave the "Yes, this cache is active" box on the submission form when initially entering information into the submission form. Fill out as much as necessary then work on the page listing until it looks good visually, has been spell checked, and all the information in it is accurate. Don't submit a cache listing without the appropriate attributes listed. Quote Link to comment
+Team Perks Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 (edited) Several years ago I drafted up a cache page entitled "The Pocket Knife, Ammunition & Fireworks Exchange" but, knowing Groundspeak would probably frown on the idea, I never dared submit it. Looking for a place to trade your sharp objects and incendiary devices? Here ya go! In addition to being stocked with the above items, there is a delectable selection of food items, expired pharmaceuticals, and political/religious pamphlets. To access the cache, park by the railroad tracks. The cache is about 50 feet from the police station, just past the "No Trespassing" signs. It's hidden under a pile of rocks in the middle of the railroad tracks. We recommend early mornings and mid-afternoons, as there is a lot of traffic from the elementary school right next door to the cache. Edited March 31, 2009 by Team Perks Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Several years ago I drafted up a cache page entitled "The Pocket Knife, Ammunition & Fireworks Exchange" but, knowing Groundspeak would probably frown on the idea, I never dared submit it. If you add beer and cigar exchange as well, I think we can interest the BATF Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I wonder how all those people seem to know exactly who is hiding caches just for the sake of placing a cache I've never had any difficulty determining this, however I am just one person, not "all those people". I can't speak for them. I'm betting Briansnat is able to figure this out as well. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I think that some people use 'they hid a cache just for the numbers' interchangeably with 'they hid a cache that didnt amuse me'. For some reason those people never understand the difference between the two. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Don't leave the "Yes, this cache is active" box on the submission form when initially entering information into the submission form. Fill out as much as necessary then work on the page listing until it looks good visually, has been spell checked, and all the information in it is accurate. I'm going to jump on this bandwagon and add nothing says "I don't care about my hide" like a cache page that looks like an AOL chat room log or a series of Twitter tweets. CHECK YOUR SPELLING, use punctuation and correct capitalization. If it looks like you didn't take the time to write out an intelligent description then most people will interpret that as you didn't take the time to place the actual cache well either. Quote Link to comment
+zoltig Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I think that some people use 'they hid a cache just for the numbers' interchangeably with 'they hid a cache that didnt amuse me'. For some reason those people never understand the difference between the two. Not true in my posting above. I know the difference and I stand by what I said. I think the (my opinion) spirit of geocaching is being slaughtered by some cheap/quick hides that are as disposable as a bic lighter or an empty water bottle. They take little effort to hide/find and the place they take you to is as mundane as can be. And the purpose behind those hides (admitted) is to increase the numbers of smileys to the nth degree. There was a forum topic years ago regarding the "shotgunning" of micros out the window of a vehicle going down the road and marking the coordinates as you passed by. (Of course this is not quite the case but the implications are there) It seems that this has come to fruition in a lot of situations. What's more is that the people who hide caches in that manor are revered as "forward thinking" and "great cache hiders" and that just breeds new cachers to copy that style. The dumbing down of geocaching. <back to the topic by OP> Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I think that some people use 'they hid a cache just for the numbers' interchangeably with 'they hid a cache that didnt amuse me'. For some reason those people never understand the difference between the two. I for one both clearly understand the difference --- and the similarity. Quote Link to comment
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