FTF prizes

[+HeyBaylor]

Hiya,

 

I'm fixin to get a cache together to hide. I'm curious what you all have put in your caches as FTF prizes?

[+MtnGoat50]

My favorite is an unactivated geocoin or travel bug. A USA geocoin runs about $5.50 which seems about right. The "gold" dollar coins also seem to be popular in my area.

[+Jhwk]

small good flashlight, like a minimag lite.

[+Flo.]

I put $5 bucks in mine so that the cacher can have a very cheap lunch or if its a group they can stop and get a drink on me. Someone around my area puts in $5 worth of lottery tickets which I think is really cool.

[+apetro]

i recently did my first cache and it had a halloween theme. the ftf was a halloween card and a stress ball that when you mash it the brains pop out.

good luck!

[Scamp]

I put a giftcard to a sandwich shop in my latest hide, but the FTF decided to take something else instead, so free lunch goes to somebody else. =P

[+GIDEON-X]

Hi, I have been putting LOTTO-SCRATCHERS in as FTF prize, but of late I have put nothing, instead I ask for coffee $$ to be left by the FTF..................

[+yawetag]

It depends on the cache. If it's an easy traditional, I don't normally leave anything for FTF. However, when I placed it near a business, the owner (my mother-in-law) gave a coupon for something free from the business.

 

On our puzzles, we'll almost always leave something for FTF. The current one out (that hasn't been found) has an unactivated TB. We're in the planning stages of an 8-stage puzzle/multi that will have at least $50 worth of FTF goodies.

 

As for you, feel free to leave what you can afford. Others have mentioned scratch-off lottery tickets, which are great (in my opinion). It only costs you $1 (or more if you want), and the FTF has the chance to win more.

 

Hiya,

 

I'm fixin to get a cache together to hide. I'm curious what you all have put in your caches as FTF prizes?

[+welch]

Nothing usually.

Its its a more difficult thing, maybe a new coin or TB.

[Chumpo]

My favorite is an unactivated geocoin or travel bug. A USA geocoin runs about $5.50 which seems about right. The "gold" dollar coins also seem to be popular in my area.

 

I agree. I'm always game for a ftf scramble when there's a geocoin involved. We sometimes leave a geocoin or a $5 bill, but it's not necessary to leave anything at all.

 

P.S.

Hi Jim!

Edited October 28, 2007 by Chumpo

[+msrubble]

Biggest success: gas cards. They have been appreciated and used.

 

Things I thought would be hits but weren't: an unactivated travel bug and a pack of lithium batteries. The travel bug was never mentioned, and has still not been activated. The batteries were unclaimed for months.

 

But you don't have to spend a lot of money to give a nice FTF prize. One-dollar coins or two-dollar bills are unusual enough that people like seeing them.

[+HeyBaylor]

Sweet, thanks for all the info! I'm doing my first hide, which I think is going to be a fairly easy traditional, but I think it would be fun to have an FTF prize. I like the idea of an un-activated TB, I think I'll do that

Edited October 28, 2007 by HeyBaylor

[+anakerose]

Being Canadian I like to put Tim Horton's gift certificates in the cache. I know one cacher around here that puts in FTF certificates. I like getting those.

[+casey97]

I have only placed 1 cache, but I put a $5 gift card to Sonic in it.

 

For the scratch offs, are these caches for 21-year-olds only? What is the legality of this? I know the average cacher is (well) above 21, but what about geomuggles, young cachers, etc.?

[+yawetag]

The kid's parents can take the ticket in if it's a winner.

 

I have only placed 1 cache, but I put a $5 gift card to Sonic in it.

 

For the scratch offs, are these caches for 21-year-olds only? What is the legality of this? I know the average cacher is (well) above 21, but what about geomuggles, young cachers, etc.?

 

[+IAOhana]

Mrs. 'Ohana and I are plotting a series of caches that will go along with our other joint love (aside from God): DISNEY! I hadn't thought a lot about FTF prizes for the small caches, but now ... hmmm....

[+Belfrypotters]

Several of our caches are nature-themed, so we left a field guide (flowers, birds, bugs, animal tracks) in each as a FTF. We put the books in Ziploc bags. The caches that require longer hikes get a gift card or Tim Hortons certificates (donut shop), usually $10, and when we hike to these caches for maintenance checks we occasionally leave a gift card as a next-to-find prize, too.

[+casey97]

The kid's parents can take the ticket in if it's a winner.

 

Some cachers start going on their own as soon as there parents let them. On a four-wheeler or in a car as soon as they have a license. A 16-year-old with a drivers license and a GPS is a far cry from a 21-year-old. The concern was not for who gets the winnings, but over the legality of placing an age restricted item in a cache. I wouldn’t want to face contributing to the delinquency of a minor charges, just for placing a "cool" FTF prize.

 

It wouldn't look good for a family friendly sport/hobby to be labeled as doing something illegal. While some people may enjoy finding lotto tickets in a cache; this does not mean we should engage in illegality for those eager scratchers (don’t we get enough scratching from poison ivy?). Many people would enjoy a bootleg DVD movie, hacked topo programs, or even copies of the latest delorme or streets and trips, but we do not put those in caches.

[+Thrak]

The kid's parents can take the ticket in if it's a winner.

 

Some cachers start going on their own as soon as there parents let them. On a four-wheeler or in a car as soon as they have a license. A 16-year-old with a drivers license and a GPS is a far cry from a 21-year-old. The concern was not for who gets the winnings, but over the legality of placing an age restricted item in a cache. I wouldn't want to face contributing to the delinquency of a minor charges, just for placing a "cool" FTF prize.

 

It wouldn't look good for a family friendly sport/hobby to be labeled as doing something illegal. While some people may enjoy finding lotto tickets in a cache; this does not mean we should engage in illegality for those eager scratchers (don't we get enough scratching from poison ivy?). Many people would enjoy a bootleg DVD movie, hacked topo programs, or even copies of the latest delorme or streets and trips, but we do not put those in caches.

 

Lighten up. It's not illegal for a baby to OWN a lottery ticket. They just can't purchase them or cash them in for money. We have vending machines that sell tickets. There's no way to restrict minors from using the vending machine. Leaving a lottery ticket is NOT illegal - no matter who picks up the ticket. Sheesh.......... People are so uptight about the lamest things.

[+Team Teague]

We've only placed two, and the first one we left no FTF prize, for which I felt very guilty (I had no idea there was such a thing). THe next one we put an unactivated micro geocoin.

I bought 6 or 8 of them on castle coins. They are a nice prize, I think.

 

Hiya,

 

I'm fixin to get a cache together to hide. I'm curious what you all have put in your caches as FTF prizes?

[+Lacomo]

Lottery tickets and gold dollar coins.

I put things I like to find in my caches. Wouldn't it be nice to get a $10,000.00 lottery ticket out of a cache.

[+penhead]

Lottery tickets and gold dollar coins.

I put things I like to find in my caches. Wouldn't it be nice to get a $10,000.00 lottery ticket out of a cache.

most of the time i put hand made ink wood pen as ftf.i make them as a hobby

[+IBcrashen]

I usually put in a blank notebook for them to sign.

I do go back and put in nicer things after the FTF nuts are done.

[+welch]

The kid's parents can take the ticket in if it's a winner.

 

Some cachers start going on their own as soon as there parents let them. On a four-wheeler or in a car as soon as they have a license. A 16-year-old with a drivers license and a GPS is a far cry from a 21-year-old. The concern was not for who gets the winnings, but over the legality of placing an age restricted item in a cache. I wouldn't want to face contributing to the delinquency of a minor charges, just for placing a "cool" FTF prize.

 

It wouldn't look good for a family friendly sport/hobby to be labeled as doing something illegal. While some people may enjoy finding lotto tickets in a cache; this does not mean we should engage in illegality for those eager scratchers (don't we get enough scratching from poison ivy?). Many people would enjoy a bootleg DVD movie, hacked topo programs, or even copies of the latest delorme or streets and trips, but we do not put those in caches.

 

Lighten up. It's not illegal for a baby to OWN a lottery ticket. They just can't purchase them or cash them in for money. We have vending machines that sell tickets. There's no way to restrict minors from using the vending machine. Leaving a lottery ticket is NOT illegal - no matter who picks up the ticket. Sheesh.......... People are so uptight about the lamest things.

Yea we have those vending machines here, but I also know that if kids start playing with them the store clerks chase them off. I thought casey97's question was pretty good since AFAIK its illegal most places to buy cigarettes and alcohol for minors. I wondered if there are any similar laws for lotto tickets?

[+casey97]

If your state allows those less than 21 years of age to gamble then I guess placing scratch-offs in caches would be ok. Just like if your state allowed underage drinking, then the placing of a half-pint of gin would be ok as well. To me it does not even sound right to say you can own something which is illegal to buy or sell.

 

However, unless I see law stating, as you so eloquently put it, "It's not illegal for a baby to OWN a lottery ticket." I would suggest a cache owner not engage in behavior which may (and probably does) have criminal implications in all states, except the state of denial. It would be difficult to find any law or legislation to say, "well you can’t buy it, but you can own it." Come election time, I would like to see a legislator defend his decision to make permissible baby gambling, or 12-year-old cacher gambling.

 

I can see being pulled in front of Judge John (gambling is bad) Dough, and explaining the reason his 12-year-old grandson received a scratch off, is because you thought it was ok because you read it in a cache forum. Getting bad free legal advise from a forum is worth what you paid for it. Use common sense, if it is illegal to sell a product to a minor, and there is a criminal sanction against selling to a minor, then it logically follows it is also illegal to give it to a minor. You can't sell it to a minor, but you can give it to them!!! By your logic it would be permissible for a retailer to sell a 5-year-old a nickel piece of candy for $2.00 and then give them a $1.00 scratch-off to go with it. I would like to see the retailer attempt this, giving scratch-offs away to minors. If I am wrong the only thing you did was leave a $5 bill instead of 5 scratch-offs. If the scratch-off lobby is wrong, then you could go to jail. Is it worth it?

 

My state refers to the "Sale, Purchase and POSSESSION" of contraband by minors. I am hard pressed to understand how your hypothetical baby can own a ticket without possession of the ticket. Saying it is ok to OWN something, but you can not buy or cash it in is not only false, but illogical. The express purpose of a scratch off is to cash in huge winnings you get from every ticket. The child has no ownership, if the child is unable to control the ticket.

 

If a child cacher, caches by themselves, and their parent does not condone gambling, then you have interfered with parental rights. You have allowed and aided the child of another person to break the law. By your same logic why not leave porn DVD’s in caches. It may be illegal for minors to buy, or for retailers to sell it to minors, but it is ok for them to OWN? A nice expensive cigar for the FTF on this cache, well it is ok to OWN if you are a minor, but you are not allowed to purchase, or be sold a lighter, or tobacco.

 

By allowing a minor to engage in criminal activity, you have opened yourself to be prosecuted (at least in Louisiana) for "Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles"

 

Louisiana RS 14§92. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles

 

A. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles is the intentional enticing, AIDING, soliciting, or PERMITTING, by anyone over the age of seventeen, of any child under the age of seventeen, and no exception shall be made for a child who may be emancipated by marriage or otherwise, to:

...

(9) Violate ANY law of the state or ordinance of any parish or village, or town or city of the state.

...

B. Lack of knowledge of the juvenile's age shall not be a defense. (this would take care of the I did not know the FTF would be 11-years-old)

 

C. Whoever commits the crime of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.

 

D. Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Paragraph (7) of Subsection A of this Section shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than two years, or both.

 

E. Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Subparagraph (a) of Paragraph (11) of Subsection A of this Section shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than two years and for not more than ten years or imprisoned according to the sentence of imprisonment for the underlying felony, whichever is less.

Edited October 31, 2007 by casey97

[+casey97]

Did not want to be accussed of deleting the portion of the law which says it is ok for minors to gamble so here is the entire statute:

 

RS 14§92. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles

 

A. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles is the intentional enticing, aiding, soliciting, or permitting, by anyone over the age of seventeen, of any child under the age of seventeen, and no exception shall be made for a child who may be emancipated by marriage or otherwise, to:

 

(1) Beg, sing, sell any article or play any musical instrument in any public place for the purpose of receiving alms.

 

(2) Associate with any vicious or disreputable persons, or frequent places where the same may be found.

 

(3) Visit any place where beverages of either high or low alcoholic content are the principal commodity sold or given away.

 

(4) Visit any place where any gambling device is found, or where gambling habitually occurs.

 

(5) Habitually trespass where it is recognized he has no right to be.

 

(6) Use any vile, obscene or indecent language.

 

(7) Perform any sexually immoral act.

 

(8) Absent himself or remain away, without authority of his parents or tutor, from his home or place of abode.

 

(9) Violate any law of the state or ordinance of any parish or village, or town or city of the state.

 

(10) Visit any place where sexually indecent and obscene material, of any nature, is offered for sale, displayed or exhibited.

 

(11)(a) Become involved in the commission of a crime of violence as defined in R.S. 14:2( which is a felony or a violation of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law which is a felony.

 

( Become involved in the commission of any other felony not enumerated in Subparagraph (a) of this Paragraph.

 

B. Lack of knowledge of the juvenile's age shall not be a defense.

 

C. Whoever commits the crime of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.

 

D. Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Paragraph (7) of Subsection A of this Section shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than two years, or both.

 

E.(1) Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Subparagraph (a) of Paragraph (11) of Subsection A of this Section shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than two years and for not more than ten years or imprisoned according to the sentence of imprisonment for the underlying felony, whichever is less.

 

(2) Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Subparagraph ( of Paragraph (11) of Subsection A of this Section shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than two years, or both.

 

Amended by Acts 1962, No. 394, §1; Acts 1966, No. 481, §1; Acts 1966, No. 532, §1; Acts 1968, No. 486, §1; Acts 1968, No. 647, §1; Acts 1976, No. 121, §§1, 2; Acts 1993, No. 526, §1; Acts 1994, 3rd Ex. Sess., No. 74, §1; Acts 1995, No. 1290, §1.

[+casey97]

The ( B ) has been automatically changed in the above for a sunglasses smile, for some reason.

[+mbharpman]

I recently placed my first cache and put a 1oz. .999 silver round for FTF.

It was from my stash I bought from my metal detecting finds.

In watching the prices lately I may have over indulged.

It received a nice mention in the finders post so it was worth it.

[+Lacomo]

If your state allows those less than 21 years of age to gamble then I guess placing scratch-offs in caches would be ok. Just like if your state allowed underage drinking, then the placing of a half-pint of gin would be ok as well. To me it does not even sound right to say you can own something which is illegal to buy or sell.

 

However, unless I see law stating, as you so eloquently put it, "It's not illegal for a baby to OWN a lottery ticket." I would suggest a cache owner not engage in behavior which may (and probably does) have criminal implications in all states, except the state of denial. It would be difficult to find any law or legislation to say, "well you can’t buy it, but you can own it." Come election time, I would like to see a legislator defend his decision to make permissible baby gambling, or 12-year-old cacher gambling.

 

I can see being pulled in front of Judge John (gambling is bad) Dough, and explaining the reason his 12-year-old grandson received a scratch off, is because you thought it was ok because you read it in a cache forum. Getting bad free legal advise from a forum is worth what you paid for it. Use common sense, if it is illegal to sell a product to a minor, and there is a criminal sanction against selling to a minor, then it logically follows it is also illegal to give it to a minor. You can't sell it to a minor, but you can give it to them!!! By your logic it would be permissible for a retailer to sell a 5-year-old a nickel piece of candy for $2.00 and then give them a $1.00 scratch-off to go with it. I would like to see the retailer attempt this, giving scratch-offs away to minors. If I am wrong the only thing you did was leave a $5 bill instead of 5 scratch-offs. If the scratch-off lobby is wrong, then you could go to jail. Is it worth it?

 

My state refers to the "Sale, Purchase and POSSESSION" of contraband by minors. I am hard pressed to understand how your hypothetical baby can own a ticket without possession of the ticket. Saying it is ok to OWN something, but you can not buy or cash it in is not only false, but illogical. The express purpose of a scratch off is to cash in huge winnings you get from every ticket. The child has no ownership, if the child is unable to control the ticket.

 

If a child cacher, caches by themselves, and their parent does not condone gambling, then you have interfered with parental rights. You have allowed and aided the child of another person to break the law. By your same logic why not leave porn DVD’s in caches. It may be illegal for minors to buy, or for retailers to sell it to minors, but it is ok for them to OWN? A nice expensive cigar for the FTF on this cache, well it is ok to OWN if you are a minor, but you are not allowed to purchase, or be sold a lighter, or tobacco.

 

By allowing a minor to engage in criminal activity, you have opened yourself to be prosecuted (at least in Louisiana) for "Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles"

 

Louisiana RS 14§92. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles

 

A. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles is the intentional enticing, AIDING, soliciting, or PERMITTING, by anyone over the age of seventeen, of any child under the age of seventeen, and no exception shall be made for a child who may be emancipated by marriage or otherwise, to:

...

(9) Violate ANY law of the state or ordinance of any parish or village, or town or city of the state.

...

B. Lack of knowledge of the juvenile's age shall not be a defense. (this would take care of the I did not know the FTF would be 11-years-old)

 

C. Whoever commits the crime of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.

 

D. Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Paragraph (7) of Subsection A of this Section shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than two years, or both.

 

E. Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Subparagraph (a) of Paragraph (11) of Subsection A of this Section shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than two years and for not more than ten years or imprisoned according to the sentence of imprisonment for the underlying felony, whichever is less.

 

Can you tell me something that is not gambling? Everything we do is a gamble in a way. I guess I'll keep doing what I'm doing. You know putting stuff some people don't like as FTF prizes. I know, it's a gamble.

Edited October 31, 2007 by lacomo

[+casey97]

What?

[+Morgan's Marauders]

Wow!

[+elmuyloco5]

We've placed in wind up flashlights, shot glasses, nice compasses, etc. We don't designate any one thing for FTF, but try to put in several nice items so they have a choice. Foreign coins seem to be a big thing in our area and many people enjoyed collecting the ones we've left along our way. They were all coins that my husband collected from his travels in the Navy.

[CacheNCarryMA]

- $5 Starbucks card

- gift certicate to local ice cream shop for ice cream sundae

- FTF card game from Groundspeak

- unactivated geocoins

- unactivated travel bug tags

- custom oval FTF bumper stickers from www.makestickers.com

- geocaching ballcap with "FTF" embroidered on the back

[+Great Scott!]

Nothing.

I will sometimes leave 3rd and 9th to find prizes. But never first to find prizes.

[knowschad]

I can see being pulled in front of Judge John (gambling is bad) Dough, and explaining the reason his 12-year-old grandson received a scratch off, is because you thought it was ok because you read it in a cache forum.

 

Oh, good GRIEF!! The nonsensical worries that sometimes get spouted off in these forums simply amazes me. First of all, do you really think that there is a prosecuter anywhere in the country that would even dream of making those charges? Second... if the juvie can't cache the ticket in for money, it isn't gambling. The ticket itself it not gambling... its just a piece of paper!

 

Shaking head...

[+lagrac]

The kid's parents can take the ticket in if it's a winner.

 

Some cachers start going on their own as soon as there parents let them. On a four-wheeler or in a car as soon as they have a license. A 16-year-old with a drivers license and a GPS is a far cry from a 21-year-old. The concern was not for who gets the winnings, but over the legality of placing an age restricted item in a cache. I wouldn’t want to face contributing to the delinquency of a minor charges, just for placing a "cool" FTF prize.

 

It wouldn't look good for a family friendly sport/hobby to be labeled as doing something illegal. While some people may enjoy finding lotto tickets in a cache; this does not mean we should engage in illegality for those eager scratchers (don’t we get enough scratching from poison ivy?). Many people would enjoy a bootleg DVD movie, hacked topo programs, or even copies of the latest delorme or streets and trips, but we do not put those in caches.

 

We do in Minnesota!

[+MaplessInSeattle]

*sigh* and i thought FTF WAS the prize itself.

[+casey97]

it isn't gambling. The ticket itself it not gambling... its just a piece of paper!

 

That's an interesting piece of law. Please post a link showing that it is not gambling. What on earth does tickets being just a piece of paper have to do with your assertion it is not gambling? Poker chips are just a piece of plastic, poker machines are just electrons in zeros and ones. What does the medium have to do with gambling? The next thing you will say is the porn you left as a FTF was not porn, becuase it was just a magazine, or just a DVD.

 

If it is not legal to sell it to a minor, what on earth makes you think it is legal to give it to them?

 

Please people use common sense.

[+PlantAKiss]

I've only placed one cache so far and I put in a handmade, painted copper mini-ammo can and a little flashlight as FTF prize. I also included a 15th to find prize (Starbucks card) for all the people like me who can't get up at 3 a.m. or leave work in the middle of the day to dash for every new cache listing. While I agree finding the cache IS the "prize", I like to have a little tidbit for the FTFer. I think I might go back and add prizes for future finders just to keep it interesting. I started out with good swag but I don't know what's in there now.

[+salz69]

I've only been caching for 3 months and have 43 hides. For bigger caches, like ammo boxes ( around 20) I put in a "geocache" t-shirt, or a "FTF" hat, but for the smaller ones it's a FTF or Geo button.

[+simpjkee]

I've never placed a FTF prize with my caches.

[+Trevuuuur1993]

I leave a 2 dollar bill in mine

to give you a bit' o luck in the next cache

and i dont think scratch offs are gambling unless your the one purchasing the card

[Jamfore]

I just started yesterday and found a smiley face with a number on it. does this mean anything.

[+yawetag]

You found it in the cache? If so, it might be one of several things:

 

1. Someone's "signature" item, an item they place in every cache. The number could be their find number.

 

2. A geocoin. Somewhere on the coin should have been written "Track this item" or something similar.

 

3. A travel bug. Most likely, however, the number would have been on a dog tag attached to the smiley face.

 

4. Nothing important. People put swag items in and take them out constantly.

 

Without seeing the item, I couldn't tell you which one it was.

 

I just started yesterday and found a smiley face with a number on it. does this mean anything.

[+HarleyPiper]

Here are a couple of my FTF prizes...

 

"Paula's Ghost Rider" is a cache at a winery. I purchased a gift certificate from the owner, Paula, for one of her offerings -- a bottle of "Ghost Rider" wine.

 

"In Queso Emergency" is a cache at one of our favorite Mexican restaurants. The FTF prize was a $10 gift certificate for the restaurant.

 

I like doing this type of FTF prize because the finder can cache it in on the spot on the same day they find it.

[+MaplessInSeattle]

on our next two caches, which should be pretty extensive multi caches.

Our FTF is an olympus600 digital camera, older, but still works and comes with two memory cards.

And the other will be a PalmIII

=)

[+Jackalgirl]

I've only placed one cache so far, and the FTF prize was a certificate I'd genned up using PaintShop Pro and a coin from this year's Navy Ball (since the cache was to honor the Navy's B'Day).

 

I have another cache in the pipeline and it, too, will have a certificate (this one in a lucite frame which, despite costing all of about $.90 at the local 100 Yen store, is very nice) and a Misawa coin minted for the local military Exchange (I will probably go pick up a keychain holder for it).

 

I imagine my FTF certificates will get more elaborate -- my plan for the next one is to do it in the style of a Japanese calligraphic scroll using washi paper and a small metal dowel as the weight at the bottom.

 

That's one of the things I really like about caching -- it gives me plenty of stuff to do with my art degree. : )

[+gorillagal]

I leave a 2 dollar bill in mine

to give you a bit' o luck in the next cache

and i dont think scratch offs are gambling unless your the one purchasing the card

 

Good point, I think I agree. Gambling implies that you're risking something, i.e. your money, but if someone gives you the ticket there is no risk therefore no gambling.

 

Anyway, I have 4 caches hidden. I put FTF prizes in two of them. I work at a zoo and the first cache had a zoo theme, so I got a couple free passes from work and left them for FTF. The other cache is at the top of a mountain and has a hiking theme, so I left a Nalgene type water bottle for FTF.

[GeoPirates2007]

Did not want to be accussed of deleting the portion of the law which says it is ok for minors to gamble so here is the entire statute:

 

RS 14§92. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles

 

A. Contributing to the delinquency of juveniles is the intentional enticing, aiding, soliciting, or permitting, by anyone over the age of seventeen, of any child under the age of seventeen, and no exception shall be made for a child who may be emancipated by marriage or otherwise, to:

 

(1) Beg, sing, sell any article or play any musical instrument in any public place for the purpose of receiving alms.

 

(2) Associate with any vicious or disreputable persons, or frequent places where the same may be found.

 

(3) Visit any place where beverages of either high or low alcoholic content are the principal commodity sold or given away.

 

(4) Visit any place where any gambling device is found, or where gambling habitually occurs.

 

(5) Habitually trespass where it is recognized he has no right to be.

 

(6) Use any vile, obscene or indecent language.

 

(7) Perform any sexually immoral act.

 

(8) Absent himself or remain away, without authority of his parents or tutor, from his home or place of abode.

 

(9) Violate any law of the state or ordinance of any parish or village, or town or city of the state.

 

(10) Visit any place where sexually indecent and obscene material, of any nature, is offered for sale, displayed or exhibited.

 

(11)(a) Become involved in the commission of a crime of violence as defined in R.S. 14:2( which is a felony or a violation of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law which is a felony.

 

( Become involved in the commission of any other felony not enumerated in Subparagraph (a) of this Paragraph.

 

B. Lack of knowledge of the juvenile's age shall not be a defense.

 

C. Whoever commits the crime of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.

 

D. Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Paragraph (7) of Subsection A of this Section shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than two years, or both.

 

E.(1) Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Subparagraph (a) of Paragraph (11) of Subsection A of this Section shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than two years and for not more than ten years or imprisoned according to the sentence of imprisonment for the underlying felony, whichever is less.

 

(2) Whoever is charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile under Subparagraph ( of Paragraph (11) of Subsection A of this Section shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than two years, or both.

 

Amended by Acts 1962, No. 394, §1; Acts 1966, No. 481, §1; Acts 1966, No. 532, §1; Acts 1968, No. 486, §1; Acts 1968, No. 647, §1; Acts 1976, No. 121, §§1, 2; Acts 1993, No. 526, §1; Acts 1994, 3rd Ex. Sess., No. 74, §1; Acts 1995, No. 1290, §1.

HOLY COW! Sheesh somebody get them some Chantix or something. I used to get scratch offs in my stocking for Christmas. The nature of the sport means there could be anything in the cache so a little common sense says maybe some supervision might be prudent. Especially if you are that uptight.

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The nature of the sport means there could be anything in the cache so a little common sense says maybe some supervision might be prudent. Especially if you are that uptight.

 

ANYTHING???