+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 So wouldn't it be cool if there was a 50 state multi-cache? You know, a cache with a waypoint in each and every one of the 50 states. It would be the granddaddy of all multis and would be a long-term target of only the truly obsessed. It would be something that would take years to collect the stages of. In theory, all we would need is someone to agree to maintain the waypoint in each of the 50 states. Anyone interested? I would do Washington State. Link to comment
+Mystery Ink Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) I would do California State. Edited June 15, 2006 by Mystery Ink Link to comment
+Team JSAM Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Kewl idea i would never hunt it but would gladly maintain Idaho. Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 You could make it a series, with caches along this route Link to comment
+Chuy! Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 How about a virtual multi? Have cachers in each state grab a # or two from, say, their state capital, then comprise a fancy formula to produce the coords for the final cache. Link to comment
+SG-MIN Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I've got kentucky. Another option to make it even easier to maintain is to use existing caches for the multi. So rather than have a cache to maintain that might get visited once a year (if you are one of the last states) is in each state have a designated cache that is a "50-stater" and in that you have a clue for the final cache (in DC???). That way people who visit the cache regularly would see the clue in there, along with a list of all the other state caches (ie virgina-gcv4rt, washington-gcfr43t, etc.) and then get interested in the BIG HUNT. What do you all think? Link to comment
+oscar478 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Excellent idea... if you don't mind a newbie in Ohio, I'll place one for the cause. Might be an interesting way to form teams... awesome if 1 person could do it all, but still quite neat if a team of a few were able to take it on. Link to comment
+cache_test_dummies Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Not exactly the 50 state multi being discussed here, but there is a cache which can only be logged by people who have found caches in all 50 states: Found 50 States, I'm Going to Disneyland! Link to comment
+Codfish116 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 North Dakota here! Let me know what you want Link to comment
Mushtang Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Not exactly the 50 state multi being discussed here, but there is a cache which can only be logged by people who have found caches in all 50 states: Found 50 States, I'm Going to Disneyland! After visiting all 50 states and becoming eligible, you're treated to... a micro. Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 After visiting all 50 states and becoming eligible, you're treated to... a micro. Yes, I will begin rusting out an Altoids tin for this purpose. There just happens to be a new Walmart going up just three miles from home. Can I reserve the parking lot now? Or... how about the "50 Walmarts in 50 States Cache" with the final ar corporate hq? Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) I think if we can keep this organized and get 50 reliable folks on board, we can pull this off and make something cool. I know that at this point it seems inconceivable that anybody could ever finish something like this but right now Geocaching has such a short history. Someday, people will have been caching for 20+ years. How about a virtual multi? Have cachers in each state grab a # or two from, say, their state capital, then comprise a fancy formula to produce the coords for the final cache. I like Chuy's idea. Let's come up with something related to a permanent landmark in each and every state. Something that defines that state and is very likely there for the long haul. What is a realistic format to do this in while avoiding internet shortcuts to information? Okay, so this is what we have… Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California - Mystery Ink Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho - Team Jsam Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky - SG-MIN Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota - Codfish116 Ohio - oscar478 Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia Washington - Blue Power Ranger West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming Edit: Unfortunate spelling of Virginia Edited June 15, 2006 by Blue Power Ranger Link to comment
+treasure_hunter Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I actually live in Kentucky, I would like to do it! But I live on the KY VA border. so I could maintain a VA cache! Link to comment
+dblrngr Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Count me in for Wyoming... sounds like an awesome idea... Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 Here the potential route map that Alabama Rambler linked to above... Just to get you thinking. Link to comment
+OzarksJim Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Put me down for Missouri. I'm in the southwest corner. Link to comment
+Riddlers Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 okay, put me down for Oregon Link to comment
+jtd18801 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I can take Pennsylvania as long as it is around north east pa. I think this would be a great thing to be a part of. Link to comment
Mushtang Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Is the idea still for a 50 stage multi, or for 50 caches that if all found will result in being able to find the 51st? Link to comment
+Team Gryarvold Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 We can do Louisiana and/or Texas. We live on the border for each. Link to comment
Hillbilly-Rockstar Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I'm up here in Ohio, so I could place one. If this is completed we should so have geocoins made. -Eric Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 Reviewers - If properly organized, is this something that could ever be approved? Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California - Mystery Ink Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho - Team Jsam Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky - SG-MIN Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri - OzarksJim Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota - Codfish116 Ohio - oscar478 Oklahoma Oregon - Riddlers Pennsylvania - jtd 18801 Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia - treasure hunter Washington - Blue Power Ranger West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming - dblrngr Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 Is the idea still for a 50 stage multi, or for 50 caches that if all found will result in being able to find the 51st? I am thinking 50 stage multi. Thoughts? Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 We can do Louisiana and/or Texas. We live on the border for each. How about you do Loisiana since there will be so many more available in Texas. Good? Link to comment
+Team Gryarvold Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 We can do Louisiana and/or Texas. We live on the border for each. How about you do Loisiana since there will be so many more available in Texas. Good? Works for us. Sounds cool. Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 Is the idea still for a 50 stage multi, or for 50 caches that if all found will result in being able to find the 51st? I am thinking 50 stage multi. Thoughts? You know, maybe the 50 caches in 50 states thing is a better idea with it all leading to one final cache in ???? That might drive more traffic to the caches in the meantime. Link to comment
Rustysurfer22 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) Is the idea still for a 50 stage multi, or for 50 caches that if all found will result in being able to find the 51st? I am thinking 50 stage multi. Thoughts? You know, maybe the 50 caches in 50 states thing is a better idea with it all leading to one final cache in ???? That might drive more traffic to the caches in the meantime. Hey I'll do it for New Jersey if you want me too! That would be so cool! PLease PM me to send me info and count me in! Edited June 15, 2006 by Rustysurfer22 Link to comment
Rustysurfer22 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) Reviewers - If properly organized, is this something that could ever be approved? Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California - Mystery Ink Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho - Team Jsam Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky - SG-MIN Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri - OzarksJim Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey - Rustysurfer22 New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota - Codfish116 Ohio - oscar478 Oklahoma Oregon - Riddlers Pennsylvania - jtd 18801 Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia - treasure hunter Washington - Blue Power Ranger West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming - dblrngr Edited June 15, 2006 by Rustysurfer22 Link to comment
+SG-MIN Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 if you make it 50 caches to complete the final, people who are new to geocaching can start in their area, and then when on vacation hit the states they need. If it is a multi - you have to go in order and basiclly the time needed will increase exponentially Link to comment
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I'll do Rhode Island! I think 50 separate caches in 50 states, with some sort of "bonus" cache at the end, signifying you have found all 50. This way, the caches will be visited regularly. And none should be park and grabs! Make them "old school" - a nice walk in the woods, a simple find, and cool swag. Each cache could also have a code, number, letter, whatever, that can be used to find a "51st" cache. Perhaps the powers that be would let us have a "non-cache" that could be used for looging the "I got all 50!" log (w/ coords in DC?). Anyone claiming to have found all 50 must have their signature in each of the 50 logs verified before being allowed to claim the "All 50". "50 Caches in 50 States (RI)", etc could be the names (or some such). Link to comment
Pto Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I live about 2 miles from the State Capital in St. Paul and would be glad to help !!! Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 Here's the latest... Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California - Mystery Ink Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho - Team Jsam Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky - SG-MIN Louisiana - Team Gryarvold Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota - Pto Mississippi Missouri - OzarksJim Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota - Codfish116 Ohio - oscar478 or Hillbilly-Rockstar Oklahoma Oregon - Riddlers Pennsylvania - jtd 18801 Rhode Island - BBWolf + 3Pigs South Carolina South Dakota - martinell Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia - treasure hunter Washington - Blue Power Ranger West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming - dblrngr Link to comment
+SG-MIN Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I would make the final cache in DC, but obviously it would be a mystery cache. I am thinking this is on par with a Da Vinci Code / National Treasure style search. Lets be honest, very few people will be able to log this as a find. People would search for years to get the information needed to complete the final stage. I mean honestly, how many people have cached in all 50 states, let alone captured a specific cache in a specific state (the more I think about it, the more I belive it has to be individual states - as a multi it would be insane.) I agree these have to be top quality caches. That will be the trick. You could get people to chip in and have a FTF prize of something like $10,000 dollars (that is 1000 people at $10 - quite doable) You had better run with this idea - you have been entrusted with the vision :-) Link to comment
+Jhwk Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Put me down for Missouri. I'm in the southwest corner. Dang it... See what happens if you don't read every hour? Jim, I got yer back if you need it. Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 I would make the final cache in DC, but obviously it would be a mystery cache. I am thinking this is on par with a Da Vinci Code / National Treasure style search. Lets be honest, very few people will be able to log this as a find. People would search for years to get the information needed to complete the final stage. I mean honestly, how many people have cached in all 50 states, let alone captured a specific cache in a specific state (the more I think about it, the more I belive it has to be individual states - as a multi it would be insane.) I agree these have to be top quality caches. That will be the trick. You could get people to chip in and have a FTF prize of something like $10,000 dollars (that is 1000 people at $10 - quite doable) You had better run with this idea - you have been entrusted with the vision :-) I am a Project Manager by profession so I am happy to help with the organization of this. First place we should go: 1. Define Requirements - What is the end goal here? 2. Define Steps to Complete - Help? Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 Put me down for Missouri. I'm in the southwest corner. Dang it... See what happens if you don't read every hour? Jim, I got yer back if you need it. Jhwk - I'll list you as a second MO contact if that is okay. Backups are good because there will be some attrition. Link to comment
+SG-MIN Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 1. Define Requirements - What is the end goal here? The end goal is to encourage local and global geocaching and to reward those who are dedicated to it (IMO). The state caches should be located in areas that are significant for that state. We may even be better served to "adopt" existing state geocaches and ask the owners to place a special page in their caches listed the others, and giving the clues. Of course others could be newly planted. I think most people would be excited about this and would be honored to have their cache requested to be a part of it. The final cache woudl have to be something totally over the top. You have to give a reason to pursue it. I think this could really lead to the spread of geocaching - and force people to branch out in the areas they cache. 2. Define Steps to Complete - Help? Each stage would need to have some sort of clue. The difficultly comes in finding a system that utilizes 50 clues, but that would be possible. Math of some sort is always an option. After you collect every clue, there needs to be some challenge to decypher, but not so much as to make that the hard part - the hard part is collecting them. I personally would add one requirement - you must vist each cache. People would be tempted to cheat, and just get people in each state to email them the clues. Make it interesting - make it worthwhile - make it a task worth completeing. Link to comment
+martinell Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Could do some kind of sudoku puzzle to figure it out. Link to comment
+erikwillke Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I'll do North Carolina. I also am placing a traditional cache that you can use for a stage. ps write anyone from Lake County Cachers for Florida. Link to comment
+erikwillke Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Here's the latest... Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California - Mystery Ink Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho - Team Jsam Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky - SG-MIN Louisiana - Team Gryarvold Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota - Pto Mississippi Missouri - OzarksJim Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota - Codfish116 Ohio - oscar478 or Hillbilly-Rockstar Oklahoma Oregon - Riddlers Pennsylvania - jtd 18801 Rhode Island - BBWolf + 3Pigs South Carolina South Dakota - martinell Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia - treasure hunter Washington - Blue Power Ranger West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming - dblrngr Don't forget DC Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 After you collect every clue, there needs to be some challenge to decypher, but not so much as to make that the hard part - the hard part is collecting them. I personally would add one requirement - you must vist each cache. People would be tempted to cheat, and just get people in each state to email them the clues. Make it interesting - make it worthwhile - make it a task worth completeing. Wanted: One puzzle genius - Who wants to be responsible for creating the puzzle to go with this? What info needs to be placed in each cache etc. Once we have the list of willing participants, you will need to be the one responsible for getting them the info they need to include in their cache and will be the mastermind behind creating the puzzle. Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 Here's the latest... Alabama - wesleykey Alaska Arizona Arkansas California - Mystery Ink Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho - Team Jsam Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky - SG-MIN Louisiana - Team Gryarvold Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota - Pto Mississippi Missouri - OzarksJim or Jhawk Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina - erikwillke North Dakota - Codfish116 Ohio - oscar478 or Hillbilly-Rockstar Oklahoma Oregon - Riddlers Pennsylvania - jtd 18801 Rhode Island - BBWolf + 3Pigs South Carolina South Dakota - martinell Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia - treasure hunter Washington - Blue Power Ranger West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming - dblrngr DC Final cache - ? Puzzle - ? Link to comment
+SG-MIN Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Wanted: One puzzle genius - Who wants to be responsible for creating the puzzle to go with this? What info needs to be placed in each cache etc. Once we have the list of willing participants, you will need to be the one responsible for getting them the info they need to include in their cache and will be the mastermind behind creating the puzzle. hmm.... sounds intriguing - but after thinking about it, the person who plants the final, and who comes up with the puzzle could not log a find on it.... this could be to big for me to miss. After all, it is all about the numbers... isn't it? (they had better give you a pretty da'gone big smilie face for completeing this one. -bk Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 they had better give you a pretty da'gone big smilie face for completeing this one. There is no way it could be bigger than the one on your own face. Link to comment
+MissJenn Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Instead of re-posting the list again and again, maybe just edit your 1st post whenever needed? Might make the thread less cluttered? (just a suggestion) Link to comment
+Haffy Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Hey why not....put me down for Maine then. Sounds like fun. Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Nebraska - I know a good spot. Link to comment
+Beffums Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I'm not too far from the Lincoln Boyhood State Park, so that likely would be a good spot for Indiana; I'm also only 3 miles from Illinois, but the extreme SouthEast corner of Illinois just isn't allllll that enticing in the grand geocaching scheme... If you're in a pinch for either state, let me know. But, if someone else has a cool idea for an Indiana or Illinois cache, I'm find with being the finder rather than the hider! Question - if you are the hider for 1 of the 50, can you still find the rest of the series and claim the "big prize"? I'm guessing if you can maintain a cache in ___ state, that you've also found at least one cache in that state (or would be able to do so fairly easily), so if you found the rest, you *would* have found all 50 states. Link to comment
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