Parts of moon off limits for cache hides?

7.7k · May 25, 2012

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/may/HQ_12-168_Lunar_Protection_Guidelines.html

I think we need a revision of the LunarCaching gudelines. Apparently NASA just created the equivalent of U.S. national parks with regards to hiding physical caches on the moon.

12k · May 25, 2012

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/may/HQ_12-168_Lunar_Protection_Guidelines.html

I think we need a revision of the LunarCaching gudelines. Apparently NASA just created the equivalent of U.S. national parks with regards to hiding physical caches on the moon.

But Waymarking those spots is still allowed! :rolleyes:

Edited May 25, 2012 by Max and 99

3.4k · May 25, 2012

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/may/HQ_12-168_Lunar_Protection_Guidelines.html

I think we need a revision of the LunarCaching gudelines. Apparently NASA just created the equivalent of U.S. national parks with regards to hiding physical caches on the moon.

So no blinkies or magnetic keyholders on any of the equipment left behind....

This pretty much leaves every single lunar hide as described by the following:

Look for a pile of rocks.

Edited May 25, 2012 by DragonsWest

7.7k · May 25, 2012

So no blinkies or magnetic keyholders on any of the equipment left behind....

This pretty much leaves every single lunar hide as described by the following:

Look for a pile of rocks.

You can always install your own lamp post on the moon for that LPC hide, you know.

May 26, 2012

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/may/HQ_12-168_Lunar_Protection_Guidelines.html

I think we need a revision of the LunarCaching gudelines. Apparently NASA just created the equivalent of U.S. national parks with regards to hiding physical caches on the moon.

So no blinkies or magnetic keyholders on any of the equipment left behind....

This pretty much leaves every single lunar hide as described by the following:

Look for a pile of rocks.

okay please tell me this is a hoax. are there really caches on the moon? if so links would be mucho appreciated.

7.9k · May 26, 2012

okay please tell me this is a hoax. are there really caches on the moon? if so links would be mucho appreciated.

What, you haven't found any of the moon caches yet? You should at least attend that event shown on the map. So far, hundreds of cachers have logged "Will attend"s, and we're hoping to make it a Mega! Another must-do is "The TRUE E.T. Highway":

Yes, this is all a hoax! Obviously, there aren't any caches on the moon. There IS one on the ISS, however: GC1BE91

May 26, 2012

Lamp post hides would be out as you'd need to put a hole in the ground to put the post up.

Unless you used a large heavy base.

7.7k · May 26, 2012

What, you haven't found any of the moon caches yet? You should at least attend that event shown on the map. So far, hundreds of cachers have logged "Will attend"s, and we're hoping to make it a Mega! Another must-do is "The TRUE E.T. Highway"

I'd have driven down the TRUE E.T. Highway, but I was worried by the "No Gas Next 250,000 Miles" sign.

May 26, 2012

I'm going to place a LPC at Milliways.

7.9k · May 26, 2012

I'm going to place a LPC at Milliways.

Make sure you get permission.

I guess the obvious name for it would be "42".

7.7k · May 26, 2012

Lamp post hides would be out as you'd need to put a hole in the ground to put the post up.
Unless you used a large heavy base.

There's no guideline prohibition against installing a lamp post on your own private property. So go grab a piece of land right now and start digging that post hole.

Disclaimer : You will definitely not get anything other than a piece of paper for your money, so just give yourself a 95% discount and print out your own title deed on your own ink jet printer for the moon if you really want one.

May 26, 2012

Don't worry they are only GUIDELINES from NASA!

May 26, 2012

Don't worry they are only GUIDELINES from NASA!

Well that just opens the door for magnetic mint tins on the underside of the lunar landers.

2.6k · May 26, 2012

Lamp post hides would be out as you'd need to put a hole in the ground to put the post up.

Unless you used a large heavy base.

Actually it wouldn't have to be that heavy (approx. 1/6 gravity, you know....).

Of course, having a cache on the moon would have its advantages....you could use anything at all for a cache container as water intrusion would not be a concern...no more damp logs!

Edited May 26, 2012 by Chief301

7.9k · May 26, 2012

Wait, I just realized something. Unless you can demonstrate that you're regularly in the area to do maintenance, caches hidden there would probably be classed as "vacation" caches and the reviewers wouldn't publish them. Come to think of it, who exactly is the reviewer covering the moon?

7.9k · May 26, 2012

Of course, having a cache on the moon would have its advantages....you could use anything at all for a cache container as water intrusion would not be a concern...no more damp logs!

"Great view from up here! TNLNSL

BTW, the log is getting dusty and might need to be replaced soon."

May 26, 2012

I am pretty sure you could hide a magnetic nano here

26.13222° N latitude, 3.63386° E. longitude

4.6k · May 26, 2012

Hold it - when did USA (or NASA) claim ownership of the moon?

2.6k · May 26, 2012

Hold it - when did USA (or NASA) claim ownership of the moon?

I haven't seen anybody else's flag up there

May 26, 2012

Those caches must have been put there a very long time ago, before virtual caches were outlawed.

I guess the moon would hold this suggestion:

"Although many locations are interesting, a Virtual Cache should be out of the ordinary enough to warrant logging a visit."

19k · May 26, 2012

I'm investing in Fisher Space Pens first thing Tuesday!

1.8k · May 26, 2012

What, you haven't found any of the moon caches yet? You should at least attend that event shown on the map. So far, hundreds of cachers have logged "Will attend"s, and we're hoping to make it a Mega! Another must-do is "The TRUE E.T. Highway":

I've done all those virtuals...

'greetings from earth'!

Edited May 26, 2012 by JesandTodd

19k · May 26, 2012

Hold it - when did USA (or NASA) claim ownership of the moon?

I haven't seen anybody else's flag up there

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7.9k · May 26, 2012

Those caches must have been put there a very long time ago, before virtual caches were outlawed.

Well, considering the last moon landing was in 1972...

I guess they were grandfathered in.

3.3k · May 26, 2012

Hold it - when did USA (or NASA) claim ownership of the moon?

I haven't seen anybody else's flag up there

If they didn't sign the cache log I say the online found it log should be deleted. :mad:

7.7k · May 26, 2012

Lamp post hides would be out as you'd need to put a hole in the ground to put the post up.

Unless you used a large heavy base.

Actually it wouldn't have to be that heavy (approx. 1/6 gravity, you know....).

Actually, wouldn't it have to be 6 times as massive in order to be the same weight on the moon?

6.1k · May 26, 2012

Well, a close look at http://www.google.com/moon/ reveals the landscape with little lackey-type people holding flags, so anything is possible..

Edited May 26, 2012 by 4wheelin_fool

8.5k · May 26, 2012

No joke. I bet I can prove there is a geocacher who owns property on the moon? Anyone wanna take that bet? :unsure:

May 26, 2012

satellite reception must be incredible up there

2.4k · May 26, 2012

Lamp post hides would be out as you'd need to put a hole in the ground to put the post up.

Unless you used a large heavy base.

Actually it wouldn't have to be that heavy (approx. 1/6 gravity, you know....).

Actually, wouldn't it have to be 6 times as massive in order to be the same weight on the moon?

Got to think about that one... BUT at least you could ignore WIND loadings on the pole. Amongst other factors.

Scrabblers: It depends on what satellites and for what purpose. GPS (Earth system) would not be good at all. They broadcast towards Earth surface and are so distant that the signals would all come from the same place if they could be received at all. A Moon based MPS nav system would be OK.

Doug 7rxc

Edited May 26, 2012 by 7rxc

7.9k · May 26, 2012

A Moon based MPS nav system would be OK.

Wouldn't it be "LPS"? Lunar Positioning System?

In fact, NASA has already been developing just such a system: NASA designs lunar positioning system for exploration

That article was from 2008, though, so who knows what the status of that project may be today.

May 26, 2012

I'm investing in Fisher Space Pens first thing Tuesday!

save yourself some cash and buy a pencil!

works just as well if not better.

7.9k · May 26, 2012

I'm investing in Fisher Space Pens first thing Tuesday!

save yourself some cash and buy a pencil!

works just as well if not better.

But pens that work in space are so much cooler!

May 26, 2012

A Moon based MPS nav system would be OK.

Wouldn't it be "LPS"? Lunar Positioning System?

In fact, NASA has already been developing just such a system: NASA designs lunar positioning system for exploration

That article was from 2008, though, so who knows what the status of that project may be today.

I was thinking about the lack of tree coverage. So we need to get another unit. Have to wonder how much that would cost!

2.4k · May 27, 2012

A Moon based MPS nav system would be OK.

Wouldn't it be "LPS"? Lunar Positioning System?

In fact, NASA has already been developing just such a system: NASA designs lunar positioning system for exploration

That article was from 2008, though, so who knows what the status of that project may be today.

That's the term I should have used for sure... but I have an aversion to LPC/S for some reason.

Doug 7rxc

7.7k · May 27, 2012

I was thinking about the lack of tree coverage. So we need to get another unit. Have to wonder how much that would cost!

But you can skip the models with barometer (always 0 atmosphere) and magnetic compass (moon's magnetic field is too weak).

14k · May 27, 2012

Well, a close look at http://www.google.com/moon/ reveals the landscape with little lackey-type people holding flags, so anything is possible..

The new geocaching moon maps are HORRID! I'm going to cancel my membership unless they bring back Google Moon maps.

7.9k · May 27, 2012

The new geocaching moon maps are HORRID! I'm going to cancel my membership unless they bring back Google Moon maps.

Quit yer complainin'! Just use OpenMoonMaps, they're fine for the moon areas I cache in.

3.6k · May 27, 2012

The new geocaching moon maps are HORRID! I'm going to cancel my membership unless they bring back Google Moon maps.

Quit yer complainin'! Just use OpenMoonMaps, they're fine for the moon areas I cache in.

YES! You can add hiking trails and etc on openmoonmaps. Better than Google moon map, ask GS!

1.8k · May 28, 2012

It isn't their moon to make the rules. I will go and cache anywhere I want to on the lunar surface. They are just gonna have to front the airfare, or is the non-airfare?

May 28, 2012

OK all this talk about the moon is cool but I want the FTF on the Mars Rover!

May 28, 2012

The swag in the moon caches sure has degenerated. There's nothing worse than packing up the family, including all their clothes, toiletries and that crappy dried space food, finding a kennel for the dog for a week, bringing activities for the kids to stay amused in the space capsule, finally landing and finding your first cache, and the only thing inside is a broken silly band and a faded pokemon card. Or worse, moon rocks. Come on folks, let's be a little more considerate and trade up.

19k · May 28, 2012

The swag in the moon caches sure has degenerated. There's nothing worse than packing up the family, including all their clothes, toiletries and that crappy dried space food, finding a kennel for the dog for a week, bringing activities for the kids to stay amused in the space capsule, finally landing and finding your first cache, and the only thing inside is a broken silly band and a faded pokemon card. Or worse, moon rocks. Come on folks, let's be a little more considerate and trade up.

Its true that caching on the moon does have its dark side, but really... a few days spent at the Sea of Tranquility should help settle your swag angst a bit.

Edited May 28, 2012 by knowschad

May 28, 2012

Its true that caching on the moon does have its dark side, but really... a few days spent at the Sea of Tranquility should help settle your swag angst a bit.

Thanks for talking me down, I just wanted people to understand the gravity of the situation. I didn't want to launch another controversy.

May 28, 2012

I am putting a cache on the "surface" of the sun. No flammable items please.

It's a daytime only hide.

Shaun

7.7k · May 29, 2012

Thanks for talking me down, I just wanted people to understand the gravity of the situation. I didn't want to launch another controversy.

Well, the quality of swag on the moon caches waxes and wanes. Sometimes it seems positively lunatic to me.

7.7k · May 29, 2012

I am putting a cache on the "surface" of the sun. No flammable items please.

It's a daytime only hide.

Shaun

What a bright idea! This could be a great fusion of caching and space exploration!

Sorry, sorry. I'll go take my meds.

3.7k · May 29, 2012

The swag in the moon caches sure has degenerated. There's nothing worse than packing up the family, including all their clothes, toiletries and that crappy dried space food, finding a kennel for the dog for a week, bringing activities for the kids to stay amused in the space capsule, finally landing and finding your first cache, and the only thing inside is a broken silly band and a faded pokemon card. Or worse, moon rocks. Come on folks, let's be a little more considerate and trade up.

Don't get me started about those moon-cards and space food samples people leave in moon caches. :mad:

Edited May 29, 2012 by The_Incredibles_

14k · May 29, 2012

The swag in the moon caches sure has degenerated. There's nothing worse than packing up the family, including all their clothes, toiletries and that crappy dried space food, finding a kennel for the dog for a week, bringing activities for the kids to stay amused in the space capsule, finally landing and finding your first cache, and the only thing inside is a broken silly band and a faded pokemon card. Or worse, moon rocks. Come on folks, let's be a little more considerate and trade up.

Don't get me started about those moon-cards and space food samples people leave in moon caches.

Don't people know we're not supposed food in caches? I know Tang may not look like food but it's known to attract aliens that have been migrating from an area in Nevada that has recently been inundated with people.