+Insane Kangaroo Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Hello geocachers! I just recently started finding caches again, my current count of 21, in Pennsylvania. I moved from Alaska and am disturbed(not insane) by the presence of geo-SPAM in caches. I found a cache yesterday with geo-SPAM offering free geocoins from eatstayplay.com Why the coins are geo-SPAM The website: offers clothing products offers camping products offers people to 'advertise with us' offers an email solicitation attempts to get geocachers to do photography work for free I've read some previous forum posts on the topic, and I'd like to share a specific use to which I use these geo-SPAM coins. I have also seen some posts regarding geocaches being linked to spam, I'll make a follow-up post on this issue. I glue them to a my tactical targets and practice how many times I can hit the specific geocoins while actively moving! Quote Link to comment
+Semper Questio Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 You may consider them some form of SPAM, but others may want the coins or even the advertising. As you long as you trade even or up for the questionable (in your eyes, anyway) swag, you can then do with it as you wish. Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Worry about more important things like world unrest and the price of fuel. Quote Link to comment
+Insane Kangaroo Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 You may consider them some form of SPAM, but others may want the coins or even the advertising. As you long as you trade even or up for the questionable (in your eyes, anyway) swag, you can then do with it as you wish. The coins are spam, aka trash. I take them without trading anything as people should. Quote Link to comment
+kh54s10 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 You know what they are so.......... maybe just ignore them????????? Quote Link to comment
+Insane Kangaroo Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 You know what they are so.......... maybe just ignore them????????? No, I do my geocacher responsibility by cleaning trash out of caches. Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 You know what they are so.......... maybe just ignore them????????? No, I do my geocacher responsibility by cleaning trash out of caches. If you know what to do then why you posting it here asking about what to do? Quote Link to comment
+Insane Kangaroo Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 If you know what to do then why you posting it here asking about what to do? Speaking up like all decent people should be doing. If you don't speak up, nothing will change. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 You know what they are so.......... maybe just ignore them????????? No, I do my geocacher responsibility by cleaning trash out of caches. The eatstayplay promotion is long since over. Yes, it annoyed many people, and Groundspeak received many complaints. She (the owner of the website) was told it was an unauthorized commercial promotion, and ended it. Probably almost a year ago, not totally sure. A very nice lady (I follow her on Twitter and read her blog), who made a bad decision, but it's ovah. Long since ovah. So keep them. You always wanted to try TiddlyWinks anyways, didn't you? Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 If you know what to do then why you posting it here asking about what to do? Speaking up like all decent people should be doing. If you don't speak up, nothing will change. Misapplied logic. You already mentioned you took care of the problem. Move on. And this is me speaking up. Quote Link to comment
+Insane Kangaroo Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 The eatstayplay promotion is long since over. I'd prefer there to be a reprimand due to the spam. The spam is now there, people will buy stuff on their website, they basically received loads of free advertising by breaking the rules they knowingly broke. Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 ibtl before knowschand and his popcorn. Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yawn, Kim is a super nice person, I spoke with her many times, and I placed 50 of her tokens and got a geocoin at no expense to myself. Her website is a great collection of information, and has been useful to me on more than one occassion. Therefore, not spam to me, but your mileage can (and apparently does) vary. Needless to say you are about a year late to the party move along like everyone else. Quote Link to comment
+Lil Devil Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 ... they basically received loads of free advertising by breaking the rules they knowingly broke. Please point to the rules they broke. While I am aware of guidelines against advertisement on cache pages, I have not seen any "rules" against advertising via swag. Quote Link to comment
+Semper Questio Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 You may consider them some form of SPAM, but others may want the coins or even the advertising. As you long as you trade even or up for the questionable (in your eyes, anyway) swag, you can then do with it as you wish. The coins are spam, aka trash. I take them without trading anything as people should. By YOUR definition, but yours is not the one that counts. Have a nice day. Quote Link to comment
+Ecylram Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 What guideline was broken by the placement of those coins? Please quote the relevant section. Thank you. Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I'll send a free geocoin to anyone that sends me 1000 of them. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 With all this going on you're worried about something that happened a year ago? Take yourself a break. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 You may consider them some form of SPAM, but others may want the coins or even the advertising. As you long as you trade even or up for the questionable (in your eyes, anyway) swag, you can then do with it as you wish. The coins are spam, aka trash. I take them without trading anything as people should. By YOUR definition, but yours is not the one that counts. Have a nice day. Well, I can't believe I'm going to help Roo out here, but I will. See Roo? This promotion is so long gone and forgotten, you have multiple people posting here who don't even know what you're talking about, and are just reacting to your ranting. What rules did this promotion that was given a cease and desist order by Groundspeak break? I'll let Eartha explain it here. EatStayPlay.com would give out free eatstayplay.com geocoins to anyone who agreed to place 50 EatStayPlay.com plastic tokens in Geocaches, tokens which promoted their website, and encouraged others to order 50 themselves to place in caches. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I was one of those who was very much against the promotional tokens. But it is over with. Let it go. Quote Link to comment
+LizLake323 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Hello geocachers! I just recently started finding caches again, my current count of 21, in Pennsylvania. I moved from Alaska and am disturbed(not insane) by the presence of geo-SPAM in caches. I found a cache yesterday with geo-SPAM offering free geocoins from eatstayplay.com Why the coins are geo-SPAM The website: offers clothing products offers camping products offers people to 'advertise with us' offers an email solicitation attempts to get geocachers to do photography work for free I've read some previous forum posts on the topic, and I'd like to share a specific use to which I use these geo-SPAM coins. I have also seen some posts regarding geocaches being linked to spam, I'll make a follow-up post on this issue. I glue them to a my tactical targets and practice how many times I can hit the specific geocoins while actively moving! I'm fairly new to the sport, and this posting and the following controversy (for lack of a better word) sparked my interest and I just had to check out the site. So, by posting this stuff is just going to give the site (it's pretty cool also) more traffic. Quote Link to comment
+G & C Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 The eatstayplay promotion is long since over. I'd prefer there to be a reprimand due to the spam. The spam is now there, people will buy stuff on their website, they basically received loads of free advertising by breaking the rules they knowingly broke. I'd prefer if there were a reprimand for general stupidity, but that's probably not going to happen either. So I figure you have two choices. You can let it go like a normal adult might. Or you can continue to make people wonder about your mental capacity and continue to rag on something that hasn't been a problem since before you got "back" into geocaching. I got one of the eatstayplay geocoins when I first got into geocaching. I also understand people's frustrations with the commercialized nature of the promotion. I don't support it, nor do I condone it. But I do like to see a level of civility in these forums and in geocaching as a whole, and threads like this do not promote it. Quote Link to comment
+skullsoup432 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I just recovered one of these tokens yesterday. I did look to see what the catch was about a free coin, but all I found was something about taking some pics for the website. I didn't pay much attention, as I wasn't much interested. I didn't see anything about the "promotion" being over, but I just kinda scanned the page. So, I had to comment. Like beating a dead horse, huh? Quote Link to comment
sabrefan7 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I just read this awesome book,Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. It has the word muggle in it. It means non magical person. I think we should call non geocachers muggles cuz they dont know what geocaching is! How cool is that!!!??? think it will catch on? Quote Link to comment
+Lil Devil Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 What happened to the insane roo? This thread has gotten boring since he left. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I just recovered one of these tokens yesterday. I did look to see what the catch was about a free coin, but all I found was something about taking some pics for the website. I didn't pay much attention, as I wasn't much interested. I didn't see anything about the "promotion" being over, but I just kinda scanned the page. So, I had to comment. Like beating a dead horse, huh? Well, she had to change the promotion. Believe me, it used to be "get a free geocoin for dropping 50 plastic tokens in caches" I remember it was a maximum of 5 per cache, and most participants would drop 5 each in 10 caches and be done with it. I was actually a big critic of this, as there were probably about 10 threads on the subject back in the day. Something that was long since forgotten. Until today, of course. Quote Link to comment
+Sol seaker Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 The eatstayplay promotion is long since over. I'd prefer there to be a reprimand due to the spam. The spam is now there, people will buy stuff on their website, they basically received loads of free advertising by breaking the rules they knowingly broke. So what do you think you should get as a reprimand by spreading this free advertising? Quote Link to comment
+Sol seaker Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 What happened to the insane roo? This thread has gotten boring since he left. He did the illegal advertisement he meant to and left. Quote Link to comment
+Lil Devil Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Yeah, it would be interesting to see the spike of traffic the site got today. Heck, even I went to check it out. Quote Link to comment
+NeecesandNephews Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 For something that ended a year ago? there sure are a lot of the still circulating. I have found them in quite a few caches locally. Quote Link to comment
+GeoGeeBee Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 For something that ended a year ago? there sure are a lot of the still circulating. I have found them in quite a few caches locally. They never seem to have caught on around here. I never saw one until I visited Atlanta. I saw a few of them in caches down there, about a year ago. Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 For something that ended a year ago? there sure are a lot of the still circulating. I have found them in quite a few caches locally. They never seem to have caught on around here. I never saw one until I visited Atlanta. I saw a few of them in caches down there, about a year ago. For whatever reason, I seem to find them in Tennessee more than anywhere else, but my finds aren't evenly distributed across all the sates I've found caches in. I took one to see what the deal was, now I just leave them in the cache or trade them for something somebody would actually want. Quote Link to comment
+Semper Questio Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) I just read this awesome book,Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. It has the word muggle in it. It means non magical person. I think we should call non geocachers muggles cuz they dont know what geocaching is! How cool is that!!!??? think it will catch on? A Flogging Molly fan? Cool! Listening to them on Pandora right now! Sorry for the OT tangent. I return you to your regularly scheduled whatever this is. Edited March 9, 2011 by Semper Questio Quote Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Once the original markings are sanded off, they make very nice 'round TUITs'. Quote Link to comment
+Stargazer22 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Short of something dangerous or illegal, I really don't care what's in a cache. One man's trash may be another man's treasure. I ain't in the business of determining how high up the swag is on the treasure scale. It's really easy to just ignore what you don't want to trade for. I'll save my angst for much more important issues. Quote Link to comment
+hzoi Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I just recently started finding caches again, my current count of 21, in Pennsylvania. I moved from Alaska and am disturbed(not insane) by the presence of geo-SPAM in caches. I found a cache yesterday with geo-SPAM offering free geocoins from eatstayplay.com 21 total finds, only 2 in the past five months, and suddenly you want to start blowing away eatstayplay tokens. Sheesh. You sure you're just disturbed by these things? I'd hate to see what sets you off next. Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) 21 total finds, only 2 in the past five months, and suddenly you want to start blowing away eatstayplay tokens. Sheesh. You sure you're just disturbed by these things? I'd hate to see what sets you off next. Aw, don't do that. Quoting finds just seem to weaken anything you're trying to say. I don't care if he has 21 finds or 21,000, he seems to be prone to over-reacting. This is the second thread started by him where he ends up promoting what he says he's against. I guess he didn't pick the name "Insane Kangaroo" for nothing. Edited March 10, 2011 by Chrysalides Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I guess he didn't pick the name "Insane Kangaroo" for nothing. He's hopping mad, alright! Quote Link to comment
nobody137 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I'm very upset that the website has no information about Georgia related stuff. I believe they should be severely reprimanded for that. Yes, yes I do. Quote Link to comment
+Sithlock Holmes Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 What happened to the insane roo? This thread has gotten boring since he left. He did the illegal advertisement he meant to and left. That's exactly what it sounded like to me too. Spam with a troll edge to distract you from it's true nature. No clicky from me, clever spammer! Quote Link to comment
+hzoi Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) 21 total finds, only 2 in the past five months, and suddenly you want to start blowing away eatstayplay tokens. Sheesh. You sure you're just disturbed by these things? I'd hate to see what sets you off next. Aw, don't do that. Quoting finds just seem to weaken anything you're trying to say. I don't care if he has 21 finds or 21,000, he seems to be prone to over-reacting. This is the second thread started by him where he ends up promoting what he says he's against. I guess he didn't pick the name "Insane Kangaroo" for nothing. Wasn't quoting finds to discount his opinion, I was doing it to question his stability/anger management -- since he's only found two caches recently, there's only so many of these tokens he could have come across. Edited March 11, 2011 by hzoi Quote Link to comment
+simpjkee Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I've heard about them, but I don't think I've ever actually seen one of these eat stay play tokens. Quote Link to comment
+Shaved Ewok Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Anyone who wants some of those things come caching in north east Ohio. I think I find a hand full of the things every time I go out on a run. Actually started collecting the things, though I do not yet know what I will do with them. I thought about grinding the ads off and using them as duplicates of geocoins. Any other ideas? Quote Link to comment
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