+LollyBob Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 We only got premium membership last week and since then we have had nothing but problems getting onto geocaching.com! We have been on the site and after a few minutes it goes down. It is getting beyond a joke now. We spend more time trying to log our finds than we do searching for them! Is it just a coinsidence that we paid our membership and it all went heywire. As Queen Victoria said...." WE ARE NOT AMUSED" !!!! Please address this problem before people get really really fed up and stop geocaching. Quote
+Cave Troll and Eeyore Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 It's not a coincidence. The site has been getting worse recently Quote
+kewfriend Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Is it just a coinsidence that we paid our membership and it all went haywire. Its very important to take responsibility for your actions. You are indeed completely to blame for the failures of the geocaching server. Your logon was the final straw that broke the hay in the wire. The only schadenfreude I take is that you paid for this, probably not dearly enough. You can of course join the Unified Church of Sciencecacheology. We are waiting to take your call on 0898 0870 0845 where our resident expert Suzy is ready willing and available to take lots more money off you. You may watch her peel away your fears on www.GeocachingLaidbare.com - all credit cards accepted. Quote
+Moote Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I have noticed that this appears to happens when they add new features. In IT the motto is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" Quote
+Learned Gerbil Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 There are probably armies out there adding cache by cache to their new 500 cache bookmark lists! Quote
+The Bolas Heathens Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 (edited) It's now showing as down for maintenance. Hopefully this means they are giving the servers a good kick Edited March 31, 2006 by The Bolas Heathens Quote
+Moote Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 It's now showing as down for maintenance. Hopefully this means they are giving the servers a good kick No usually means it functions worse than before Quote
+Learned Gerbil Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 No problem - I see Waymarking is still up - and now improved! I also notice a Waymarking category "Wikipedia Entries". With Geocaching apparently dead you can spend your spare time creating Wikipedia Entries, then you can go out and find them when the rain stops! What more could we want? Quote
+Moote Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 No problem - I see Waymarking is still up - and now improved! I also notice a Waymarking category "Wikipedia Entries". With Geocaching apparently dead you can spend your spare time creating Wikipedia Entries, then you can go out and find them when the rain stops! What more could we want? Well this just sums up Waymarking.com why would I look at another site for Wiki entries; If there is a God please save the human race now before we go too far! Quote
+purple_pineapple Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 No problem - I see Waymarking is still up - and now improved! I also notice a Waymarking category "Wikipedia Entries". With Geocaching apparently dead you can spend your spare time creating Wikipedia Entries, then you can go out and find them when the rain stops! What more could we want? and how, pray tell, do we log them? post a link to the web page? how about, if I create a waymark category called 'rooms' and then everyone can log it, as many times as they like, every time they enter a room. Or think about entering one, or even just know of the existance of a room. No proof required, just post that you know about a room somewhere, and that's it.... Quote
+rutson Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 How about a Waymarking catagory called "Geocaches". I dunno, we could hide like, boxes or something around the place then go out and find them. Hey we could have a whole n'other website for them... Ooo sounds good.. dadgum! Geocaching.com is already taken, but it seems to be down...... Quote
+Alibags Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 No problem - I see Waymarking is still up - and now improved! I also notice a Waymarking category "Wikipedia Entries". With Geocaching apparently dead you can spend your spare time creating Wikipedia Entries, then you can go out and find them when the rain stops! What more could we want? Wooo! (shoot me now!!) Hey! why is there not a smilie for a frog with a spear through it's head? I think we should be told!! Quote
+lathama Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Sticking my neck out, but i aint seen any problems Quote
+Learned Gerbil Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 It was working last time I looked, but that was the first time I had seen a cache page in days! Quote
+Bear and Ragged Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 You think it's slow now- just think how slow, and crashy, the site would be had they not removed the Virtual caches to make room! (joke!) I miss 'em. G. Quote
+Cave Troll and Eeyore Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 It's getting so bad i reckon they are running the site on a Sinclair ZX80 Quote
+McDeHack Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I just went to log my todays finds, and I do write long ones. Submitted one, and it blew out. So I had to do it all again. (But I did it in word and copy & paste this time) Quote
+alma Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 im not impressed with premium membership i wont be renuwing mine Quote
+davy boy Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Still waiting for 2 pq's from thursday and still cannot get onto cache pages,its the worse its ever been..... Quote
+Tonylama Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I'm going on a hunger strike until conditions improve Quote
+Nellies Knackers Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 No problem - I see Waymarking is still up - and now improved! I also notice a Waymarking category "Wikipedia Entries". With Geocaching apparently dead you can spend your spare time creating Wikipedia Entries, then you can go out and find them when the rain stops! What more could we want? and how, pray tell, do we log them? post a link to the web page? how about, if I create a waymark category called 'rooms' and then everyone can log it, as many times as they like, every time they enter a room. Or think about entering one, or even just know of the existance of a room. No proof required, just post that you know about a room somewhere, and that's it.... Go on, I dare you But who would ever see it? Quote
adrianjohn Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Wooo! (shoot me now!!) Hey! why is there not a smilie for a frog with a spear through it's head? I think we should be told!! Well not a spear, but this one looks like a nail driven well in. Quote
Vimes Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Just spent 20 minutes trying to get in to the site, definitely getting worse. Not good Quote
+Mr'D Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Just spent 20 minutes trying to get in to the site, definitely getting worse. Not good Not one usually to moan at GC but GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! What have they done? If they can't sort their server problems out then they should employ someone who can! Quote
+third-degree-witch Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=128299 Quote
Vimes Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Only took 15 mins to get onto the site this time, then got an error when I tried to post this message. What is going on? Quote
+Simply Paul Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 (edited) Having just tried to log a note about a maintenance trip to one of my caches, I just *knew* this topic would be top of the forum. Edited to say I *loved* Third-degree-witch's link! It seems some people are changing their tune. Special 'I told you so' link. Edited April 1, 2006 by Simply Paul Quote
+CrazyL200 Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 In the last two hours, I've only just managed to activate 3 coins. Getting fed up with reading Server Too Busy Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code. Exception Details: System.Web.HttpException: Server Too Busy Quote
+CrazyL200 Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Just thought Maybe it's all been a big build up to April 1st Wake up in the morning and it will all be a bad dream Quote
+Haggis Hunter Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Having just tried to log a note about a maintenance trip to one of my caches, I just *knew* this topic would be top of the forum. Edited to say I *loved* Third-degree-witch's link! It seems some people are changing their tune. Special 'I told you so' link. Bit of a SMUG I told you so! there SP? I still stand by my comments that I made on thread. Start paying and it may start working!! Ooops upsetting people again!! Quote
+third-degree-witch Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Sp...im not changing my tune at all......perhaps if i didnt have to support overt freeloaders like you gc.com would run smoother....anyone for free petrol or chips ????? Quote
+Simply Paul Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Perhaps I should archive all my caches because of perceived personal attacks? Quote
+third-degree-witch Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 free country Sp.....you do that......youre just as quick to snipe..so dont start crying when people snipe back.i for one wont miss you Quote
+Simply Paul Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 (edited) Does anyone honestly believe it's my fault that the servers are playing up? Why would I pay for premium membership to get features I don't want or need and I can't use? I don't even have a data-cable for my etrex. One practical thing I *could* do to reduce the load on the servers would be to archive my caches. 126, found once a month on (conservative estimate) average is 1512 logs a year, or over four a day. Perhaps if I let myself be bullied out of a sport I enjoy and happily contribute to that *would* help the good people of Groundspeak? I've not sniped at anyone - my original post said 'people' and if anyone feels I meant them, perhaps that's a reflection of their conscious? I didn't single anyone out as I wasn't singling anyone out. Some people don't understand the concept of personal choice and I have to accept there's not much I can say or do to change that. What it is to be a martyr Edited to add if the offer of free petrol and chips is still open, I'd like some please. Edited April 1, 2006 by Simply Paul Quote
+perth pathfinders Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 One practical thing I *could* do to reduce the load on the servers would be to archive my caches. 126 NOOOOOOOOOOO Then who would I have to compete against for numbers ??? p.s. Fight you for the free chips! Quote
+The Bolas Heathens Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 GGGrrrr - just got back from a great day's caching only to suffer the GC.com server being too busy all the time. It comes to something when it takes longer to log the caches than it does to actually find them. Why can't someone sort this out once and for all - it's not rocket science at the end of the day and plenty of other sites run well under a lot more traffic. Quote
+Windsocker Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 (edited) Time to stop lining the pockets and buy some more server's this will put new cachers off what a pain in the **** Server Application Unavailable The web application you are attempting to access on this web server is currently unavailable. Please hit the "Refresh" button in your web browser to retry your request. Administrator Note: An error message detailing the cause of this specific request failure can be found in the application event log of the web server. Please review this log entry to discover what caused this error to occur. Edited April 1, 2006 by The Windsockers Quote
+nfa Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 (edited) pointless whining...posted in frustration...sorry... Edited April 1, 2006 by NFA Quote
+Haggis Hunter Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Does anyone honestly believe it's my fault that the servers are playing up? Not your fault personally. The way I felt about your post rubbing our noses in the I told you so scenario is that your original thread may have been a thread to get the premium members to complain about the site, so that your overall free experience of the site is better. If any non paying member has a problem with this site I feel as though they have two choices - 1. Go to one of the other caching sites, that don't offer as much as GC.com does. 2. Pay for your membership and complain along with us. Otherwise, don't complain about what you get for free. There is an old saying - Beggers can't be choosers! Anyway, back to the issue, does this make any sense to the techies out there? It appears that Jeremy is trying to sort the problem, but I don't know the ins and outs of what he is saying. Quote
+Learned Gerbil Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Anyway, back to the issue, does this make any sense to the techies out there? It appears that Jeremy is trying to sort the problem, but I don't know the ins and outs of what he is saying. Looks like fiddling whilst inhaling the smoke of a big fire to me. Yes, the load on the servers can be reduced, but the thngs he is looking at look like small beer compared with the PQ and search loads. The new server aimed at caching data looks a better bet. Quote
+Tharagleb Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Please address this problem before people get really really fed up and stop geocaching. Now that you have threatened to quit geocaching I am sure they will redouble their efforts. geesh! Quote
+mongoose39uk Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Please address this problem before people get really really fed up and stop geocaching. Now that you have threatened to quit geocaching I am sure they will redouble their efforts. geesh! Perhaps I cannot read, however I cannot see where lollybob threatens to leave geocaching! I may be being a little pedantic but there you go. Anyway, are you really hinting that people are wrong to get fed up with the even poorer service we have been receiving of late Quote
+Simply Paul Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Does anyone honestly believe it's my fault that the servers are playing up?Not your fault personally. The way I felt about your post rubbing our noses in the I told you so scenario is that your original thread may have been a thread to get the premium members to complain about the site, so that your overall free experience of the site is better.If any non paying member has a problem with this site I feel as though they have two choices - 1. Go to one of the other caching sites, that don't offer as much as GC.com does. 2. Pay for your membership and complain along with us. Otherwise, don't complain about what you get for free. There is an old saying - Beggers can't be choosers! I'm glad you don't think it's personally my fault. It's just when you said 'Start paying and it may start working!!' it sort of looked like you were. Now I read it again, it still looks like you were. Anyway. The thread I linked to was about peoples' thoughts on the service they were paying for. As I don't pay for it, I didn't feel I could whine too much (this is all covered in that thread, of course) and it wasn't egging people on to complain about the site, I only wanted to know how bad it'd need to get before they felt justified in asking for a partial refund. I just find it amusing (and a little hypocritical) that some opinions expressed in that threat, talking about a hypothetical situation, have turned 180 degrees when faced by the stark reality of a GC.com that seems to be dying on its arse. I would like to see the site more reliable, but I suggest if it was free users causing the problems, as opposed to premium members with their greater demands on the system (PQs, etc), that free membership would soon be phased out. Against Jeremy's promise of 'Geocaching will always be free', which is a cornerstone of the sport. I could 1) Go to one of the other sites, or 2) pay money to have an opinion but 1) my caches are listed on GC.com and 2) I can have an opinion for free. And just because I can: 3) The TBs I paid to track are currently untrackable. I'd like to move any argument about whether I'm allowed an opinion or not because I've not paid for bonus features which premium members enjoy but I can't access away from this thread and on to email - SimplyPaulGC@aol.com. Feel free to get in touch, whatever your position. My point, that I was mostly poo-poo'd for questioning the service levels in September 05 and have seen my publicly voiced fears realised in the last week, still stands though. Quote
+Moote Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Does anyone honestly believe it's my fault that the servers are playing up?Not your fault personally. The way I felt about your post rubbing our noses in the I told you so scenario is that your original thread may have been a thread to get the premium members to complain about the site, so that your overall free experience of the site is better.If any non paying member has a problem with this site I feel as though they have two choices - 1. Go to one of the other caching sites, that don't offer as much as GC.com does. 2. Pay for your membership and complain along with us. Otherwise, don't complain about what you get for free. There is an old saying - Beggers can't be choosers! I'm glad you don't think it's personally my fault. It's just when you said 'Start paying and it may start working!!' it sort of looked like you were. Now I read it again, it still looks like you were. Anyway. The thread I linked to was about peoples' thoughts on the service they were paying for. As I don't pay for it, I didn't feel I could whine too much (this is all covered in that thread, of course) and it wasn't egging people on to complain about the site, I only wanted to know how bad it'd need to get before they felt justified in asking for a partial refund. I just find it amusing (and a little hypocritical) that some opinions expressed in that threat, talking about a hypothetical situation, have turned 180 degrees when faced by the stark reality of a GC.com that seems to be dying on its arse. I would like to see the site more reliable, but I suggest if it was free users causing the problems, as opposed to premium members with their greater demands on the system (PQs, etc), that free membership would soon be phased out. Against Jeremy's promise of 'Geocaching will always be free', which is a cornerstone of the sport. I could 1) Go to one of the other sites, or 2) pay money to have an opinion but 1) my caches are listed on GC.com and 2) I can have an opinion for free. And just because I can: 3) The TBs I paid to track are currently untrackable. I'd like to move any argument about whether I'm allowed an opinion or not because I've not paid for bonus features which premium members enjoy but I can't access away from this thread and on to email - SimplyPaulGC@aol.com. Feel free to get in touch, whatever your position. My point, that I was mostly poo-poo'd for questioning the service levels in September 05 and have seen my publicly voiced fears realised in the last week, still stands though. There is no such thing as a free lunch Quote
+Simply Paul Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 (edited) There is no such thing as a free lunchThere is if you fake a heart attack just before the bill arrives. This is very like the 'Beggars can't be choosers' comment from earlier, and falls under the 'please email me if you think the fact I don't want the PREMIUM features offered to PREMIUM members means I'm a GC.com bandwidth-vampire' bracket. A smart person might also note I've NOT jumped on the 'Come on Jeremy, this isn't good enough' bandwagon rolling on in this and other threads. Which sort of pops the whole 'if you don't pay for it (which I do through the TBs I own, to say nothing of the cost of setting caches up) don't knock it' balloon. And if you're bored reading all this, imagine how I feel typing it Edit to add I'd expect you Moote, of all people, to appreciate the integrity and guts needed to express an unpopular opinion that you believe in. Perhaps this is a 'cheap' comment, but it is an accurate one. Edited April 2, 2006 by Simply Paul Quote
+Haggis Hunter Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 1. The cost of a TB is paying for the indefinite use of a web page that tracks mileage to within feet anywhere in the world. It DOES NOT contribute towards the running of the entire GC.com site. 2. I like to think that most people on here ARE smart in their own way, and I don't like your hidden remark to suggest otherwise. 3. Yes, I am bored with this, so I am going to do, what I think a lot of people may wish you would do, and stop typing on the subject. Quote
+Simply Paul Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 1. The cost of a TB is paying for the indefinite use of a web page that tracks mileage to within feet anywhere in the world. It DOES NOT contribute towards the running of the entire GC.com site. 2. I like to think that most people on here ARE smart in their own way, and I don't like your hidden remark to suggest otherwise. 3. Yes, I am bored with this, so I am going to do, what I think a lot of people may wish you would do, and stop typing on the subject. 1) The cost of a web page is negligible I paid £15+ for five tags. What did they spend the rest of that money on if it wasn't the TB page, plastic bag, metal tag and a piece of paper with an activation code on it?2) It wasn't a hidden remark, it was a turn of phrase. I don't know any properly stupid people. That's not to say smart people can't say or do dumb things sometimes. Myself included. 3) I asked that one area of discussion was moved off-forum as it wasn't on-topic. The next post ignored that request. What's a guy to do? Here's a deal - if you, and *everyone else*, stop typing on this subject, so will I. No need to reply... Quote
+2202 Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Too many handbags flying around. At 1:30am its suddenly gone express fast! Quote
+Haggis Hunter Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 At 1:30am its suddenly gone express fast! Odd as it is the height of the day in the USA and it is still Saturday. Quote
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