+Lemon Fresh Dog Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 As the question asks -- do you write "TFTH" or do you write your thoughts of the day when you complete a log? The reason I ask, is I think a hilarious project (and I am not interested in doing it -- so steal the idea), would be a PDF or even a book on the best onine log entries. (I think there are some threads in the forums on this already) So? Long or Short? Quote Link to comment
Team Firebird Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I like your idea. mabye if I have the time, I will try to do that. I will start annother thread with a place for people to send me their favorite logs. I ll be sure to send you a copy when im done. To answer your question, my logs are usually short. Quote Link to comment
Trinity's Crew Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I tried being a bit more verbose in this log and this log, but my wife and kids teased me unmercifully for weeks because of them. Now my logs are usually a few sentences long. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 My logs range from 2 or 3 quick sentences up to 3 or 4 paragrapghs - depends on the experience. Quote Link to comment
+radioscout Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 That depends on how many time I have for writing the logs, how many logs I have to write and what kind of cache it is. Traditional caches get longer logs, multis something like "found it". Quote Link to comment
+AuntieWeasel Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 As the question asks -- do you write "TFTH" or do you write your thoughts of the day when you complete a log? A paragraph, maybe two. With a picture, if any of them came out okay. I've written longer logs a few times, but I kind of felt like I was elbowing everybody else off the page. A very short log is usually an implicit negative. From me, I mean -- people who habitually write short logs, that works okay for them. Quote Link to comment
+DocDiTTo Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I write as much or as little as the fun/adventure I had doing the cache warrants. Most urban micros get a standard "found it, thanks" but then there are those caches that warrant not just one, but two log entries because I couldn't fit everything in one. That's a rare occasion, but has happened as the links indicate. If I really like the cache and had a great (or really bad/adventurous/extraordinary) time doing a cache, my log will show it. Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I prefer to log long entries, replete with the gory details and the humor and pathos of the hunt (or of the DNF!) but only if the cache or the hunt or some other (unexpected) variable warrants such a story! BTW, a long log entry does NOT crowd other log entries off the front cache listing page, as the software at the geocaching.com seems only to use NUMBER of log entires and not their length as the criteria for what log entries appear on the front page. So, even a maximum-length log entry will not bump an earlier log onto a back page any more than will a short log entry. Quote Link to comment
+AuntieWeasel Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 BTW, a long log entry does NOT crowd other log entries off the front cache listing page, as the software at the geocaching.com seems only to use NUMBER of log entires and not their length as the criteria for what log entries appear on the front page. So, even a maximum-length log entry will not bump an earlier log onto a back page any more than will a short log entry. I know. It just felt like I was blathering on and on and maybe making the next finder feel funny. Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) BTW, a long log entry does NOT crowd other log entries off the front cache listing page, as the software at the geocaching.com seems only to use NUMBER of log entires and not their length as the criteria for what log entries appear on the front page. So, even a maximum-length log entry will not bump an earlier log onto a back page any more than will a short log entry. I know. It just felt like I was blathering on and on and maybe making the next finder feel funny. Hmm... Auntie, the difference between you and me is that I am more warped than you, and I love filing really weird log entries. And, I must admit that making the next finder feel funny makes me feel gleeful. In fact, making the previous finder feel funny makes me feel gleeful. I apologize in advance for being so warped. Please forgive me. Please do not spank me anymore. Well, okay, you can spank me for twenty-five minutes longer.... Edited December 16, 2005 by Vinny & Sue Team Quote Link to comment
+SgtSue Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I like to write the story of the hunt, hopefully with a bit of a humorist twist. My own rules does not allow for negative comments, regardless of the lameness of the cache. A short note while most likely mean it was OK, while a paragraph or longer tries to share the fun of the hunt. Even a lame cache may have a great story when, let’s say it’s in a wooded area and I forgot to waypoint the geotruck and we spend an hour taking the longest possible path back. To me the log is to thank the cacher who took the time to hide the cache. The story is for my buddies to laugh at our day’s adventures and misadventures. If anyone else enjoys them, all the better. Quote Link to comment
bogleman Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Sometimes I get a little long winded. I enjoy reading logs (gathering clues) that others write and I want to document my adventure to the best of my ability. I enjoy writing funny logs, I hope others read them and get a chukle out of my adventure. I don't find that many caches on an outing that it becomes a chore for me to write about the cache. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I'm a regular Arnold Hemmingway. Quote Link to comment
+tands Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 No matter what people tell you, longer logs are always better. - T of TandS Quote Link to comment
+tands Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 To clarify, as an active hider, I hate the 'nice cache, TFTH' type logs. I am tempted to delete them out of spite. If you post a short log to be nice when you actually hated the cache, I want/need to know what you didn't like. False appreciation means you're getting more of what you don't like in my next hide. - T of TandS Quote Link to comment
+RockyRaab Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 It's simple human nature: if a cache is enticing, inventive or entertaining, then its logs will match. If it's just another ho-hummer, then... If your caches get a lot of "alphabet logs" then they ARE telling you something. Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 (edited) It's simple human nature: if a cache is enticing, inventive or entertaining, then its logs will match. If it's just another ho-hummer, then... If your caches get a lot of "alphabet logs" then they ARE telling you something. Well, I largely agree, but lets face some relevant facts as well: 1) Some cachers are simply prone to writing only short and curt log entries, filled with alphabet soup, and are largely incapable of anything else. God bless them too!2) I seem to notice that length of log entries also varies from region to region. Folks in some regions tend to write long log entries, while folks in some other regions tend to lean toward curt and short entries. Edited December 19, 2005 by Vinny & Sue Team Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 To clarify, as an active hider, I hate the 'nice cache, TFTH' type logs. I am tempted to delete them out of spite. If you post a short log to be nice when you actually hated the cache, I want/need to know what you didn't like. False appreciation means you're getting more of what you don't like in my next hide. - T of TandS I couldn't disagree more. If I find a cache that fits the description of lame by the majority of cachers, I won't write more than a sentence in my online logs. The only exception to this rule is If I need to take the time to warn future cachers of the aggresive homeless person, or the discarded hype needles, or because of any other dangers, then I'll be wordy. Now if the cache is was a worthwhile endeavor, I have no problem writing a long log. #600 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LU...2b-f89a634b3807 #700 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LU...1d-71def30b0123 Quote Link to comment
+Mr Lost Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 (edited) I am so in the habit of writing long logs that I find I now have to write them in MS Word, and do a character count so as not to eceed the 4000 character limit. I will then cut and paste the extra into a secondary note. I usually do not run into this problem, but I have found it helpful. I always try to write very descriptive logs. Read an example of my verbosity Here, start at the 'find' log, and end with the 'note'. Oh yeah, I always try to post a LOT of photos. Edited December 18, 2005 by Mr Lost Quote Link to comment
+tands Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Hi, what I meant was, I prefer a 'this cache stinks, SLTN,' over 'nice cache TFTH' on one of my caches if someone didn't like it. But, I appreciate any logs and any attempts on them. And we love long detailed logs most. - T of TandS Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Hi, what I meant was, I prefer a 'this cache stinks, SLTN,' over 'nice cache TFTH' on one of my caches if someone didn't like it. But, I appreciate any logs and any attempts on them. And we love long detailed logs most. - T of TandS Whoops, I really inferred wrongly on that one. I have no qualms about being honest when I find a lousy cache. GCM90P "I just love these "scenic geocaching spots" in the city. The trashed filled ditch was in "full bloom", but the "waterfall" was dry. My olfactory senses were stimulated by the alluring scent I encountered at this cache spot. Thanks for the cache (I think)" Quote Link to comment
+AuntieWeasel Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 1) Some cachers are simply prone to writing only short and curt log entries, filled with alphabet soup, and are largely incapable of anything else. I try to be mindful of this. Some people hate writing or don't write well, and if they can squeeze out a couple of coherent sentences, good on them. If I had to do algebra to log a cache, I'd quit. Quote Link to comment
+mb3 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 1) Some cachers are simply prone to writing only short and curt log entries, filled with alphabet soup, and are largely incapable of anything else. I try to be mindful of this. Some people hate writing or don't write well, and if they can squeeze out a couple of coherent sentences, good on them. If I had to do algebra to log a cache, I'd quit. Give me an algebra cache and I'll try to write a descriptive log about my experience. Quote Link to comment
+CurmudgeonlyGal Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I sometimes exceed the maximum characters allowed for a log entry... there's been a few times I've exceeded it x4 and managed to reign it in on the 5th entry. Auntie... I don't often feel like I'm elbowing people off the page... I am. Quote Link to comment
+GeoWomyn_SF_CA Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I will do my best to write an entertaining log if I think the cache warrents it. Even if it doesn't I will write about the experience I had there with my buddies so they can enjoy my write ups. It's my way of saying "I had fun caching with you." I also take time with my logs as a thank you to the person who took the time to place it. If I really, really enjoy the cache I will also paint a watercolor sketch of it and add it to the log. I am a firm believer in "value added caching." No alphabet logs for me! Quote Link to comment
+ATMA Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 We too try to be just a bit entertaining as well. In our log books, we look forward to finders doing the same. Makes for more fun than just TFTCSL... Quote Link to comment
+Former Hawkeye Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I want the person to know I appreciate that they took the time to place a cache!-- so words of encourgement I hope will bring more caches. I have to drive some distance to reach any new ones-found all the local. I know I like it when there is something more than TFTC. Quote Link to comment
Mustcache Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Hmm... Auntie, the difference between you and me is that I am more warped than you, More warped than Auntie? Boy, I gotta meet you!! Gotta love AW! Quote Link to comment
+Mule Ears Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 ...If I really, really enjoy the cache I will also paint a watercolor sketch of it and add it to the log. I am a firm believer in "value added caching." No alphabet logs for me! Those watercolors are wonderful! Folks, take a look at her gallery. Quote Link to comment
+Silny Jako Bek Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 The watercolors are beautiful!! They should have their own forum... Quote Link to comment
+AuntieWeasel Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 If I really, really enjoy the cache I will also paint a watercolor sketch of it and add it to the log. Whoa! Ver-y nice. What sort of gear do you carry with you? Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Hmm... Auntie, the difference between you and me is that I am more warped than you, More warped than Auntie? Boy, I gotta meet you!! Gotta love AW! If you really need to know how warped I am, you may be able to get a bit of an idea by taking a look at some of my Psycho series caches, such as: Psycho Urban Cache #3 - Bowels of the City (GCQ91Y)Psycho Urban Cache #4 - Where is Padre Pio? (GCQ969)Psycho Urban Cache #5 - Brief and Bizarre Descent (GCQA4C)Psycho Urban Cache #6 - Downtown Wuthering Heights (GCQABV)Psycho Urban Cache #7 - A Good Day to Die (GCQHBH)Psycho Backcountry Cache #3 - Bitch Creek Crossing (GCQNN5)Psycho Backcountry Cache #4 - High Country Cave (GCQNT7) Quote Link to comment
+SandyEggoGuy Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Short, sweet and to the point. Quote Link to comment
+flask Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Hmm... Auntie, the difference between you and me is that I am more warped than you, uh, i'm sorry, but nobody is more warped than auntie. you can try, but you'll fall short. i want to be her when i grow up. Quote Link to comment
+AuntieWeasel Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 You know, when you find yourself being used as a living Index of Whack (by flask, no less!), it's probably time to cut down on...something. I wish I knew what. Still, it's a step up, I guess. Most places I frequent find me merely annoying. And I'm still holding out to see GeoWomyn's portable watercolor kit. I've tried to put together drawing stuff for the trail, but I haven't found the right way to package it up to balance weight and awkwardness against function. Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Logs ever shorter, but I do post a lot of pictures. Pretty direct correlate between number of pictures posted and how much I enjoyed your cache. Quote Link to comment
+GeoWomyn_SF_CA Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 If I really, really enjoy the cache I will also paint a watercolor sketch of it and add it to the log. Whoa! Ver-y nice. What sort of gear do you carry with you? Most of the time I take a snap shot and use my watercolors at home. On days I do have time to paint in the field though I take brushes, a container of water, paper towels, masking tape, a pencil, and portable watercolors (the pan kind:Yarka brand. These watercolors are more vibrant than the usual. I got them online at Dickblicks art supplies. I also use 140 lb weight watercolor paper. Quote Link to comment
+blazerfan Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Its been my opinion since I started geocaching that you can tell the best caches by the length of the log entries. So when I find a good cache I usually write a bit more than usual... I've never hit the max characters alowed though. Quote Link to comment
+Bandit & Magna Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 If you like unusual logs check this out: It Quote Link to comment
+Bluejaytoo Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 If I really, really enjoy the cache I will also paint a watercolor sketch of it and add it to the log. I am a firm believer in "value added caching." No alphabet logs for me! Now that's cool. Aside from my often wordy log entries, if conditions permit, I will take 3-D pictures of the cache area and upload them to the log. I leave 3-D anaglyph glasses in all the caches I find, and they can be used to view the pictures I post. Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 (edited) I can't stand when someone finds a bunch of caches in one day and copies and pastes their logs. Even if I find 10, 20 or 30 caches in a day, I try my best to write something about each cache or at least as much as I remember. If I don't like a cache, I make sure to say why I didn't like it. Just writing TNLN TFTC doesn't cut it. Here's a couple of favorites logs of mine that immediately come to mind: December 15 January 29 Edited December 20, 2005 by JMBella Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 If I really, really enjoy the cache I will also paint a watercolor sketch of it and add it to the log. I am a firm believer in "value added caching." No alphabet logs for me! Now that's cool. Aside from my often wordy log entries, if conditions permit, I will take 3-D pictures of the cache area and upload them to the log. I leave 3-D anaglyph glasses in all the caches I find, and they can be used to view the pictures I post. OK.. how do you take a 3D picture? I made a Virtual Tour of one of my caches. I should start doing that on all caches I like. Quote Link to comment
+Jhwk Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 (edited) My physical log tends to be very short. Usually not enough paper to capture everything, and I would hog it for all of the followers. The virtual log can get long as I recount the hunt and impressions, my takes, and lefts, funny thoughts and my thanks for placing a cache. The better the longer too. 300th post - but who's counting Edited December 20, 2005 by Jhwk Quote Link to comment
+Bluejaytoo Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 OK.. how do you take a 3D picture? With a 3-D camera! Actually, I don't own a 3-D camera, so I use normal ones. Most of the time when I'm caching, I just have my little Pentax P&S digital. I frame the shot while keeping all my weight on my left foot, take one picture, shift my weight to my right foot, then take another picture. Of course, this only works on calm days, and when there aren't lots of people moving around. Then I take the resulting left/right pair and layer them in Photoshop to create the anaglyph image, to be viewed with the glasses. A detailed tutorial on just how that is done is on my website. When I'm more ambitious, I'll drag along my twin rig: a matched set of Pentax ME Super SLRs that are synchronized electronically. Or I'll use my Digital Rebel mounted on a slidebar on a tripod. There are a zillion ways to do it. Say, that virtual lighthouse tour of yours would look way cool in 3-D... Quote Link to comment
+Mule Ears Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 My physical log tends to be very short. Usually not enough paper to capture everything, and I would hog it for all of the followers. The virtual log can get long as I recount the hunt and impressions, my takes, and lefts, funny thoughts and my thanks for placing a cache. The better the longer too. 300th post - but who's counting Physical log: An exceptionally good Team Mule Ears log is one that has the date correct and the team name spelled right. An excellent one has a legible impression of our rubber stamp, relatively unsmudged and rightside-up. A masterpiece has both of the previous characteristics and is free from bloodstains. Online log: Our online logs disregard the legal right to avoid self-incrimination. They are often accompanied by pictures, sometimes in focus. For remote caches, pictures can feature Mr. Mule Ears scowling at the camera while perched on a cliff over a chasm waiting for the self-timer to go off. He believes he is smiling when these pictures are taken. Quote Link to comment
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