No More Soggy Logbooks?

[+Stuey]

I've just bought an A6 pad of waterproof paper (www.web-tex.co.uk: similar products by other manufacturers are available!).

 

I've just tested it in the sink and it is great. I have written on it in pencil and biro, and plunged it in the sink. The writing stays on the page, and can't even get rubbed off, let alone smudged off!

 

Has anyone else used this, and if so, is there any drawback to this stuff? It looks good at the moment, but I'll know after a while of one being placed out "in the wild" within a few months.

 

(EDIT to put in link)

Edited November 9, 2005 by Stuey

[+Moote]

Cheers Stuey

 

Now on my bookmarks list

 

Milton (aka Moote)

[+Dorsetgal & GeoDog]

Have you tried writing on it when it is wet?

[+Gralorn]

This reminds me that NASA spent more than $12,000,000 in the 1960's researching and developing a pen that would work upside down and in zer gravity conditions. The Russians used a pencil!!!

At £2.95 have you tried a ziploc plastic bag to put it in, which would save you about £2.80.

 

It looks classy though, I'll give you that!

[+Moote]

This reminds me that NASA spent more than $12,000,000 in the 1960's researching and developing a pen that would work upside down and in zer gravity conditions. The Russians used a pencil!!!

At £2.95 have you tried a ziploc plastic bag to put it in, which would save you about £2.80.

 

It looks classy though, I'll give you that!

I think what Stuey's idea is, is to have paper that will withstand a very harsh location, I would not think he would use it in a location where weather / water abuse is negligible. But then I could be wrong

 

Moote

[+Stuey]

At £2.95 have you tried a ziploc plastic bag to put it in, which would save you about £2.80.

 

It looks classy though, I'll give you that!

I've got a couple of micros out in Exeter that are in magnetic key holders. The books are in ziplock bags. The books are wet.

 

Let's be honest, how many times have you found caches where the zip-log bag that is there to keep the logbook dry has been left un-zipped? Loads I bet?

 

So... this stuff is really neat. I can get two books worth out of each book anyway, so it's cheap for peace of mind of having a ruined logbook.

 

I'll let you know how it goes.

[+Learned Gerbil]

With my central London micros there is no room for a bag

[+Stuey]

yep, and I have a copy-cat one in the making with waterproof paper

[+third-degree-witch]

The machetes on that site are excellent tools...i use mine alot in the field..you have to spend time creating a decent blade initially but well worth the effort.

[+Kitty Hawk]

The machetes on that site are excellent tools...i use mine alot in the field..you have to spend time creating a decent blade initially but well worth the effort.

Huh?!

[+Stuey]

The machetes on that site are excellent tools...i use mine alot in the field..you have to spend time creating a decent blade initially but well worth the effort.

Huh?!

I understood....

 

"Machete" as in "big knife".

[+davy boy]

The machetes on that site are excellent tools...i use mine alot in the field..you have to spend time creating a decent blade initially but well worth the effort.

Huh?!

I understood....

 

"Machete" as in "big knife".

But whats it to do with waterproof notebooks?

[+Birdman-of-liskatraz]

Maybe A6 is too big?

[+Stuey]

But whats it to do with waterproof notebooks?

The url I mentioned is an army supplies place..... third-degree-witch said "machetes on that site"

 

Now back on topic...waterproof logbooks

 

Has anyone ever used one?

[+Stuey]

Maybe A6 is too big?

I expect they sell scissors

 

I'm going to cut mine down to size.

[+Birdman-of-liskatraz]

Makes the idea of an underwater cache even more feasible.... Can you get waterproof pens? I mean can you write on the waterproof paper when it's wet?

[+Stuey]

I mean can you write on the waterproof paper when it's wet?

Yes, just tried it with a pencil under water. Biro doesn't work so well on wet paper, but it does work.

[+Bill D (wwh)]

These pens are designed to write pretty well anywhere, including underwater, and on most surfaces including wet ones.

[+Naefearjustbeer]

this pen is the same without costing as much. I ordered one and when it arrived it was a the same as the crome pen in the previous posting. shown below

 

Edited November 9, 2005 by Naefearjustbeer

[+The Hancock Clan]

If it's the same waterproof paper that's used in the official geocaching logbooks then it may be worth providing a biro/pencil too as a lot of ink pens don't write well in them.

[+Bud Lightbeer]

I used this type of paper initially at Uni when out in the field surveying. It has since served me really well when on exercise/ops with the RAF. It isn't always deserts and sunshine One thing to note is that I have always used pencil, which can fade after a while. Suggest a nice dark one.

[NickPick]

I've used this sort of paper lots for field surveying - it comes in Yellow books called Chartwell. I've used it in extremely heavy rain, and doesn't disintegrate at all.

 

When it's wet, writing on it with a pencil makes the lines a bit fainter, and biro can be a bit difficult to get to write on it (the ball slips on the water and doesn't put the ink down properly). Space pen works well. Felt tip would leach all over the place. (Those observations are with the paper sopping wet, if it was just damp or mildly moist, I expect the biro would work better, but the felt tip would still leach)

 

Hope this helps.

[+purple_pineapple]

At work, we use water insoluble glass marker pens (bit like OHP pens, but not water soluble) I should imagine they would make a good felt tip based pen. I'm not 100 % sure that they actually write when the paper is sopping wet though.

[markandlynn]

Theres also x stream paper

[+Matrix]

There is also this a waterproof notebook Ebay Link

[+Nellies Knackers]

So can you print on this stuff using a standard bubblejet printer?

[+Stuey]

No idea... and I'm not about to try, just in case it makes a mess of my printer

[+Moote]

I tend to use this paper when the going gets really tough

 

 

Milton (aka Moote)

[+marknhelen]

Been using these notebooks for years in the army. They get my vote. Excellent bit of kit.

[Shep, Seren & Tess Dog]

Ive used a waterproodf paper notebook on my Heston Island Hop cache...its yet to be found though, as its a bit of a mare to get to, so cannot yet report wether it is any good or not.

Seren.

[+rutson]

I've just bought an A6 pad of waterproof paper (www.web-tex.co.uk: similar products by other manufacturers are available!).

 

{snip}

 

Has anyone else used this, and if so, is there any drawback to this stuff? It looks good at the moment, but I'll know after a while of one being placed out "in the wild" within a few months.

 

How did it get on?

[+Stuey]

It's been great! The only problems I have had are:

• when the pencil goes missing from a micro, and people try to write on the wet waterproof paper with a biro. It sorta works, but you end up getting the pages engraved rather than written on when that happens. HB and softer pencils work fine, even when it is saturated.
  
• when the staple gets rusty it doesn't look as nice
  

 

I have put a few of these out now, and have had generally good responses from other cachers. Thanks for finding the thread!

[+rutson]

Was curious as I found an old waterproof notebook the other day. I've made a 'logbook' for a magnetic keyholder that's just been hidden, so we'll see how it copes.

[+Tiger-Eyes]

So can you print on this stuff using a standard bubblejet printer?

 

My sister has printed maps from memory map onto waterproof paper using a standard printer though I don't know if it's the same paper manufacturer.

[+Captain Gore-tex]

Was really impressed with the Exeter cache that was soaking wet but still able to log so have just ordered a book through the Luton suppliers

[+2202]

Been using waterproof paper in a number of my micros in Oxford for some two years at least, bought it in a army surplus shop. Not all pens work though.