+duganrm Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I placed a new, not-yet-approved cache out in Jamul today . . . I wonder who will be FTF? I see the cache has finally been approved. I wonder if there is anyone up there now... Quote Link to comment
+FlagMan Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 New features to go along with Google Earth that look pretty cool. Yes! Excellent! Be sure to "Download Geocache browser in Google Earth". Great tool - adds caches to the map view automatically. That's really cool, but it will be better when you can filter out your finds. (I did note that filtering capabilities are planned for the future). The ability to overlay a travel bug's travels onto GoogleEarth is pretty cool too. Played around with Google Earth this morning. I have been downloading Pocket Queries and then running them through GSAK to change how the name displays, etc. Then I export the file to another GPX file for my GPXSonar program to read in my Pocket PC. So this morning, I opened that GPX file in Google Earth and it works perfectly. My pocket query only downloads the nearest unfound caches from my home, and then GSAK filters it down to 25-miles. So when I load the GPX into Google Earth, I see the nearest unfound caches within a 25-mile radius. Of course, you can change the filter in GSAK any way you would like.... Quote Link to comment
+RocketMan Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 New features to go along with Google Earth that look pretty cool. Yes! Excellent! Be sure to "Download Geocache browser in Google Earth". Great tool - adds caches to the map view automatically. That's really cool, but it will be better when you can filter out your finds. (I did note that filtering capabilities are planned for the future). The ability to overlay a travel bug's travels onto GoogleEarth is pretty cool too. Played around with Google Earth this morning. I have been downloading Pocket Queries and then running them through GSAK to change how the name displays, etc. Then I export the file to another GPX file for my GPXSonar program to read in my Pocket PC. So this morning, I opened that GPX file in Google Earth and it works perfectly. My pocket query only downloads the nearest unfound caches from my home, and then GSAK filters it down to 25-miles. So when I load the GPX into Google Earth, I see the nearest unfound caches within a 25-mile radius. Of course, you can change the filter in GSAK any way you would like.... Hey Flagman - How about you post a picture for us here at work? Quote Link to comment
+TFTC Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Hey Flagman - How about you post a picture for us here at work? OK, don't laugh, but here are OUR unfound caches: Quote Link to comment
+duganrm Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Hey Flagman - How about you post a picture for us here at work? OK, don't laugh, but here are OUR unfound caches: think it will take you a week to clear that out? Quote Link to comment
+TFTC Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 think it will take you a week to clear that out? Not even that long, I just hit "DELETE" in GoogleEarth and now they are all gone! Quote Link to comment
+QDman Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Now this is interesting. Quote Link to comment
+FlagMan Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Now this is interesting. Isn't it more fun to catch a fish the old fashioned way? Somehow having one jump onto the screen of my phone doesn't sound as exciting as pulling a real one in from the ocean.... Am I missing something? The idea sure sounds like it has promise, but "Swordfish" doesn't sound like that much fun... Quote Link to comment
+FlagMan Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) Hey Flagman - How about you post a picture for us here at work? Here's MY work for the week! (I wish!) Edited October 19, 2005 by FlagMan Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I'm glad to see four of mine on that map . . . Congrats to QDman for FTF on "Another Astounding Viewpoint" this morning. Too bad it was so overcast and rainy . . . Quote Link to comment
+duganrm Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Hey Flagman - How about you post a picture for us here at work? Here's MY work for the week! (I wish!) I am suprised. I actually see one in there that I got and you haven't (3-D Park). From the picture, it looks like you need to spend more time in the north part of the county. Quote Link to comment
+QDman Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I'm glad to see four of mine on that map . . . Congrats to QDman for FTF on "Another Astounding Viewpoint" this morning. Too bad it was so overcast and rainy . . . Thank you. Those are actually my favorite conditions for caching. It's cooler, the air is clearer, and the clouds make for some great (even astounding) photos. Quote Link to comment
+PassingWind Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Finally......San Diego County – Kache Kharma Hall of Fame Have you ever sharpened a pencil, left a spare logbook, replaced a container, dried out a wet cache, adopted an archived cache, etc. etc. etc. ?? You should be recognized! This thread with track caches that need maintenance and the geocachers who voluntarily assist with cache maintenance. Quote Link to comment
+FlagMan Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Finally......San Diego County – Kache Kharma Hall of Fame Have you ever sharpened a pencil, left a spare logbook, replaced a container, dried out a wet cache, adopted an archived cache, etc. etc. etc. ?? You should be recognized! This thread with track caches that need maintenance and the geocachers who voluntarily assist with cache maintenance. Here, here! Can't tell you how many logs I read that say something like, "Log is full..." or "Needs new pencil..." Essential contents of any swag bag include replacement logs in plastic bags, golf pencils, cammoed M&M tube, and miniature ziplocks. With these items, you can even temporarily replace an entire cache that has gone missing until the cache owner can get out there to make a better replacement. Very inexpensive items, but saves the cache owner a trip out when someone else is aleady there.... Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Does anybody drive a Jeep for their commuter car? I was thinking of looking for a Jeep for my daily transport. The problem is, I drive 35-40 miles each way to work everyday. I was looking around a used lot one day, and the dealer told me I was crazy to buy a Jeep considering my drive to work. He said the rough ride and noise would make me crazy, and since the traffic moves close to 80 MPH down the I-15, he said I would wear the Jeep out since they are geared low for hill climbing and not meant for continual high speeds. Then again, we was trying to talk me into an XTerra he had on the lot! Anyway, I figured I would pose the question here. If I got and Unlimited with the longer wheel base, would that help the freeway ride? What is the difference between a Rubicon and a regular Wrangler? C4 Quote Link to comment
+Duncan! Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Does anybody drive a Jeep for their commuter car? I was thinking of looking for a Jeep for my daily transport. The problem is, I drive 35-40 miles each way to work everyday. I was looking around a used lot one day, and the dealer told me I was crazy to buy a Jeep considering my drive to work. He said the rough ride and noise would make me crazy, and since the traffic moves close to 80 MPH down the I-15, he said I would wear the Jeep out since they are geared low for hill climbing and not meant for continual high speeds. Then again, we was trying to talk me into an XTerra he had on the lot! Anyway, I figured I would pose the question here. If I got and Unlimited with the longer wheel base, would that help the freeway ride? What is the difference between a Rubicon and a regular Wrangler? C4 Don't do it. My jeep was meant as a "toy", but has become my daily ride for the past 8 months. Can't wait until the wife gets a car so I can get my Taurus back. Just my 2 cents. D! Quote Link to comment
+Chuy! Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 A longer wheelbase, in general, will provide a smoother ride than a short-wheelbase version. The Jeep Wrangler extended version wheelbase is 10 inches longer. That will help out quite a bit; however, we're talking Jeep here. Its still going to be a rough ride 'cause Jeep Wranger suspensions are designed for off-road. The Rubicon version will only be a stiffer ride; but if you have the funds, it is a vary capable off-road vehicle. Better axles; locking differentials; Air lockers; 4wheel disc brakes, to name a few features. The Xterra, 4Runner, Explorer and just about any other med. sized SUV will provide smoother ride and better MPG. Quote Link to comment
+samiaminca Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Does anybody drive a Jeep for their commuter car? I was thinking of looking for a Jeep for my daily transport. The problem is, I drive 35-40 miles each way to work everyday. I was looking around a used lot one day, and the dealer told me I was crazy to buy a Jeep considering my drive to work. He said the rough ride and noise would make me crazy, and since the traffic moves close to 80 MPH down the I-15, he said I would wear the Jeep out since they are geared low for hill climbing and not meant for continual high speeds. Then again, we was trying to talk me into an XTerra he had on the lot! Anyway, I figured I would pose the question here. If I got and Unlimited with the longer wheel base, would that help the freeway ride? What is the difference between a Rubicon and a regular Wrangler? C4 Consider a long distance ride in a jeep as a long wooden rollercoaster ride. Fortunately my commute was only 6 miles, so I didn't mind it as much. MPG is an issue also! On a recent trip I was thrilled to average 18 mpg. So as a commuter for your type of distance, I wouldn't reccomend a jeep, especially if you are accustomed to a more luxurious ride. I went from a Crown Victoria LX to my jeep, major difference. As far as road noise, myMarie went to Palm Springs one day with just the bikini top on the jeep.... it took her almost a day to get her hearing back to normal. If you got a soft top, don't expect to be able to hold a conversation, especially on a cellphone. Don't get me wrong, I love my jeep, it is a low speed thrill ride! But it is not for everyone. Get a jeep for short runs and as a toy. If you want a dual purpose commuter, get a luxo SUV (yech). Quote Link to comment
+Dan-oh Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Here, here! Can't tell you how many logs I read that say something like, "Log is full..." or "Needs new pencil..." Essential contents of any swag bag include replacement logs in plastic bags, golf pencils, cammoed M&M tube, and miniature ziplocks. With these items, you can even temporarily replace an entire cache that has gone missing until the cache owner can get out there to make a better replacement. Very inexpensive items, but saves the cache owner a trip out when someone else is aleady there.... I too carry basic cache supplies and I've unofficially adopted a few caches as well. Now that I've cached for a while, I have mixed emotions about revamping unmaintained caches, especially when the owner isn't caching any more. Specifically, I've taken care of Nature Trail Cache (GC3D44) for over a year by replacing the container, adding a new log and new trade items. I've also looked after Old Glory Fletcher Point Peak (GCC8A) as well, with a replacement ammo can and new log. The first cache isn't very remarkable while Old Glory is a very cool adventurein a unique spot. I can edit neither page nor correct bad coordinates. (I've requested an adoption on Old Glory but thats a very slow process) I believe that most of the time, its better to archive an old cache and replace it with a new one. Having a cache page that can't be updated is a liability and can mess up future cachers. Outstanding caches that are rarely visited and that have an outstanding value can be worth maintaining as a cache community. That's my .02, what's yours? Quote Link to comment
+PassingWind Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Xterra all the way Quote Link to comment
+PassingWind Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Here, here! Can't tell you how many logs I read that say something like, "Log is full..." or "Needs new pencil..." Essential contents of any swag bag include replacement logs in plastic bags, golf pencils, cammoed M&M tube, and miniature ziplocks. With these items, you can even temporarily replace an entire cache that has gone missing until the cache owner can get out there to make a better replacement. Very inexpensive items, but saves the cache owner a trip out when someone else is aleady there.... I too carry basic cache supplies and I've unofficially adopted a few caches as well. Now that I've cached for a while, I have mixed emotions about revamping unmaintained caches, especially when the owner isn't caching any more. Specifically, I've taken care of Nature Trail Cache (GC3D44) for over a year by replacing the container, adding a new log and new trade items. I've also looked after Old Glory Fletcher Point Peak (GCC8A) as well, with a replacement ammo can and new log. The first cache isn't very remarkable while Old Glory is a very cool adventurein a unique spot. I can edit neither page nor correct bad coordinates. (I've requested an adoption on Old Glory but thats a very slow process) I believe that most of the time, its better to archive an old cache and replace it with a new one. Having a cache page that can't be updated is a liability and can mess up future cachers. Outstanding caches that are rarely visited and that have an outstanding value can be worth maintaining as a cache community. That's my .02, what's yours? I agree. The process of contacting and adopting a cache from a defunct owner can be tiresome and nearly impossible. With that said, the cache will more than likely continue to be visited until, through a long process with Admin, it would be archived and the area will be opened. In the meantime someone has to "maintain" it. There should be easier steps that Admin could administer to transfer defunct caches from cachers who no longer care or just can no longer be contacted. I've even noticed virtuals that require e-mailing the owner before logging but the owner hasn't been on GC.com for over two years! Interesting Quote Link to comment
+samiaminca Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 As an addendum to my previous post.... Have you seen the newest Harley Davidson commercial? You could easily replace the Harley they spotlight in the last scene with a Jeep. Marie tells me that there are many similarities between a ride on a Harley and a ride in the Jeep! Remember Jeep girls like it bouncy, topless and dirty. Quote Link to comment
+PassingWind Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 As an addendum to my previous post.... Have you seen the newest Harley Davidson commercial? You could easily replace the Harley they spotlight in the last scene with a Jeep. Marie tells me that there are many similarities between a ride on a Harley and a ride in the Jeep! Remember Jeep girls like it bouncy, topless and dirty. I'd call this bike the Harley Davidson's version of a two-wheeled Jeep! The Buell "Ulysses" 1200cc Dual-Sport! (Buell by Harley Davison) It's on my "TOY" list...... Quote Link to comment
+FlagMan Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Does anybody drive a Jeep for their commuter car? I was thinking of looking for a Jeep for my daily transport. The problem is, I drive 35-40 miles each way to work everyday. I was looking around a used lot one day, and the dealer told me I was crazy to buy a Jeep considering my drive to work. He said the rough ride and noise would make me crazy, and since the traffic moves close to 80 MPH down the I-15, he said I would wear the Jeep out since they are geared low for hill climbing and not meant for continual high speeds. Then again, we was trying to talk me into an XTerra he had on the lot! Anyway, I figured I would pose the question here. If I got and Unlimited with the longer wheel base, would that help the freeway ride? What is the difference between a Rubicon and a regular Wrangler? C4 I put about 200,000 miles on my Cherokee before I got the Avalon. I drove it exclusively for many years -- and still like driving it. I'll be sporting it in the desert later this month.... BTW, it now has close to 275,000 miles on it! Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) Does anybody drive a Jeep for their commuter car? I was thinking of looking for a Jeep for my daily transport. The problem is, I drive 35-40 miles each way to work everyday. I was looking around a used lot one day, and the dealer told me I was crazy to buy a Jeep considering my drive to work. He said the rough ride and noise would make me crazy, and since the traffic moves close to 80 MPH down the I-15, he said I would wear the Jeep out since they are geared low for hill climbing and not meant for continual high speeds. Then again, we was trying to talk me into an XTerra he had on the lot! Anyway, I figured I would pose the question here. If I got and Unlimited with the longer wheel base, would that help the freeway ride? What is the difference between a Rubicon and a regular Wrangler? C4 Keep on mind that it will cost you about a $100 a week just to drive a Jeep the 80 miles to your work and back! So when you're at the gas pump 2-3 times a week you may not be too happy with your decision for a commuter vehicle. Edited October 20, 2005 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+Snake & Rooster Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Does anybody drive a Jeep for their commuter car? I was thinking of looking for a Jeep for my daily transport. The problem is, I drive 35-40 miles each way to work everyday. I was looking around a used lot one day, and the dealer told me I was crazy to buy a Jeep considering my drive to work. He said the rough ride and noise would make me crazy, and since the traffic moves close to 80 MPH down the I-15, he said I would wear the Jeep out since they are geared low for hill climbing and not meant for continual high speeds. Then again, we was trying to talk me into an XTerra he had on the lot! Anyway, I figured I would pose the question here. If I got and Unlimited with the longer wheel base, would that help the freeway ride? What is the difference between a Rubicon and a regular Wrangler? C4 Oh, go ahead and get it. You know you want it. You might also consider a Liberty 4X4. Drives pretty well on the freeway, but is still rated for off road use. Works for me. Quote Link to comment
+samiaminca Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I figured I would clarify that my comments are only for a soft-top Wrangler or variant of. I consider anything with a hardtop and air conditioning a luxo SUV and a cheap imitation. Just my $.02 worth. Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) Here, here! Can't tell you how many logs I read that say something like, "Log is full..." or "Needs new pencil..." Essential contents of any swag bag include replacement logs in plastic bags, golf pencils, cammoed M&M tube, and miniature ziplocks. With these items, you can even temporarily replace an entire cache that has gone missing until the cache owner can get out there to make a better replacement. Very inexpensive items, but saves the cache owner a trip out when someone else is aleady there.... I too carry basic cache supplies and I've unofficially adopted a few caches as well. Now that I've cached for a while, I have mixed emotions about revamping unmaintained caches, especially when the owner isn't caching any more. Specifically, I've taken care of Nature Trail Cache (GC3D44) for over a year by replacing the container, adding a new log and new trade items. I've also looked after Old Glory Fletcher Point Peak (GCC8A) as well, with a replacement ammo can and new log. The first cache isn't very remarkable while Old Glory is a very cool adventurein a unique spot. I can edit neither page nor correct bad coordinates. (I've requested an adoption on Old Glory but thats a very slow process) I believe that most of the time, its better to archive an old cache and replace it with a new one. Having a cache page that can't be updated is a liability and can mess up future cachers. Outstanding caches that are rarely visited and that have an outstanding value can be worth maintaining as a cache community. That's my .02, what's yours? I totally agree about achiving caches that are not being maintained because the owner has quit caching (hard to imagine) and is not going to maintain his caches. If the cache happens to be in a cool spot then a new cache can easily be placed in that same spot and maintained by the new "active" cacher. Plus doing this gives all those FTF hounds out there another bone! Edited October 20, 2005 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+samiaminca Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Why is it that I always remember things to post after I hit the "add reply" button? I do reccommend getting a Jeep if you really want one. Just know what you are getting yourself into, i.e. the positives and the negatives. Another positive is that Jeep (Wrangler style) owners are alot like Harley owners. 98% of us always wave when we see another on the road, we often covet what is on somebody elses, and your date won't send you packing before the sun goes down. Remember... it's not the size of your Jeep that matters.... it's how you use it. Quote Link to comment
+HelBob Duo Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 We went out with a jeep & an Xterra some time ago. We couldn't go Everywhere they went, but we maybe coulda, if we had the right tires. Ok, some more power wouldn't hurt. We got our Honda CRV so that I could drive it to work but we could still go places a car couldn't. Whatsa matter C4? Can't get the trunk fixed??? Quote Link to comment
+Chuy! Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) Can you wait a couple more years? It could make it out late next year. Edited October 20, 2005 by Chuy Quote Link to comment
+splashman Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Check out the front page on the geocaching page, The picture we took of Robyn of Team Reid at Top of the World with the Jeep bugs is there!!! The Splashes Quote Link to comment
+Caching Widow Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Why is it that I always remember things to post after I hit the "add reply" button? I do reccommend getting a Jeep if you really want one. Just know what you are getting yourself into, i.e. the positives and the negatives. Another positive is that Jeep (Wrangler style) owners are alot like Harley owners. 98% of us always wave when we see another on the road, we often covet what is on somebody elses, and your date won't send you packing before the sun goes down. Remember... it's not the size of your Jeep that matters.... it's how you use it. So does that mean that Miata owners are a lot like moped owners and turn and cover their face when they see each other........ Quote Link to comment
+ventura_kids Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 We have a Wrangler Sport and a Grand Cherokee Limited. The Wrangler has a hard top, and is bumpy, and very noisy on the freeway. We followed some Harleys to Yellowstone, and at some points ran 90mph.. It prefers around 60mph. The Grand Cherokee is like a luxury SUV on 4x4 steroids. The Quadratrac II transmission is amazing. Electronic limited slip on both axles, and 4 wheel low makes it an unreal geocaching machine. I drive the Wrangler everywhere... thru bushes, in washes, over boulders, on sidewalks, on hiking trails, in movies, etc.. They both get lousy mileage. We love them both! Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) Can you wait a couple more years? It could make it out late next year. The heck with the MPGs, I want one of those! P.S. It's coming out in early 2006! Edited October 20, 2005 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
vagabond Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Does anybody drive a Jeep for their commuter car? I was thinking of looking for a Jeep for my daily transport. The problem is, I drive 35-40 miles each way to work everyday. I was looking around a used lot one day, and the dealer told me I was crazy to buy a Jeep considering my drive to work. He said the rough ride and noise would make me crazy, and since the traffic moves close to 80 MPH down the I-15, he said I would wear the Jeep out since they are geared low for hill climbing and not meant for continual high speeds. Then again, we was trying to talk me into an XTerra he had on the lot! Anyway, I figured I would pose the question here. If I got and Unlimited with the longer wheel base, would that help the freeway ride? What is the difference between a Rubicon and a regular Wrangler? C4 As an old cj5 owner I can tell you all about the rough ride and how they start to get squirrely at about 80. I know the newer ones are sprung a little softer and the wheel base is a little longer but go with something else you'll be safer and a lot more comfortable. Quote Link to comment
+blonds run amuck Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Why is it that I always remember things to post after I hit the "add reply" button? I do reccommend getting a Jeep if you really want one. Just know what you are getting yourself into, i.e. the positives and the negatives. Another positive is that Jeep (Wrangler style) owners are alot like Harley owners. 98% of us always wave when we see another on the road, we often covet what is on somebody elses, and your date won't send you packing before the sun goes down. Remember... it's not the size of your Jeep that matters.... it's how you use it. So does that mean that Miata owners are a lot like moped owners and turn and cover their face when they see each other........ No...it means that Miata girls wave only at Jeep boys. Quote Link to comment
+Chuy! Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) Anybody else catch Zar's log on his Chupy 4: The Walkabout cache before the log got archived? Here is an edited version: "Log Date: 10/19/2005 Just aiding the 'a&&h@les' at geocachingadmin.com, like Hemlock and SoCalAdmin. Geez, they've really spoiled this sport. I'm getting out, and my caches are going with me." Think he has a chip on his shoulder? I'm guessing he may be referring to Admin's comments on his San Diego: Chupy 1 cache. Edited October 20, 2005 by Chuy Quote Link to comment
+TFTC Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) I'm guessing he may be referring to Admin's comments on his San Diego: Chupy 1 cache. I had requested Chupy 1 be archived in January (since it sounded like the location was turning into something that might prevent replacement) - got an email from Zar that he was going to replace it so I deleted my SBA log. Those mean old admins wouldn't let a cache be disabled for over a year! It's too bad he neglected it so long because it appears to be one of the earliest caches placed (GC146). Edited October 20, 2005 by ahimsa Quote Link to comment
vagabond Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Chupy one was my first cahe find, I spent about 4 hours doing it and the toybox walking in from Black mountaian road parking. Zar had disabled Chupy one for about 6 months or so back in 01 when he moved it from down by the creek near the crossing to up on the Mesa. LOL another old usless tidbit Quote Link to comment
+RocketMan Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Check out the front page on the geocaching page, The picture we took of Robyn of Team Reid at Top of the World with the Jeep bugs is there!!! The Splashes Very cool! I was wondering if one of the zillion photos we posted of the Moab trip might make the cut on the front page. Quote Link to comment
+RocketMan Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Can you wait a couple more years? It could make it out late next year. The heck with the MPGs, I want one of those! P.S. It's coming out in early 2006! I like it! Maybe I won't have to buy a Jeep as my next off-road vehicle! Quote Link to comment
+Let's Look Over Thayer Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) Here, here! Can't tell you how many logs I read that say something like, "Log is full..." or "Needs new pencil..." Essential contents of any swag bag include replacement logs in plastic bags, golf pencils, cammoed M&M tube, and miniature ziplocks. With these items, you can even temporarily replace an entire cache that has gone missing until the cache owner can get out there to make a better replacement. Very inexpensive items, but saves the cache owner a trip out when someone else is aleady there.... I too carry basic cache supplies and I've unofficially adopted a few caches as well. Now that I've cached for a while, I have mixed emotions about revamping unmaintained caches, especially when the owner isn't caching any more. Specifically, I've taken care of Nature Trail Cache (GC3D44) for over a year by replacing the container, adding a new log and new trade items. I've also looked after Old Glory Fletcher Point Peak (GCC8A) as well, with a replacement ammo can and new log. The first cache isn't very remarkable while Old Glory is a very cool adventurein a unique spot. I can edit neither page nor correct bad coordinates. (I've requested an adoption on Old Glory but thats a very slow process) I believe that most of the time, its better to archive an old cache and replace it with a new one. Having a cache page that can't be updated is a liability and can mess up future cachers. Outstanding caches that are rarely visited and that have an outstanding value can be worth maintaining as a cache community. That's my .02, what's yours? I've unofficially adopted one cache, Feel Your Way There (GCJAHM), because I particularly liked it and thought it would be a shame for it to go away. I've offered to adopt it officially, but that hasn't gone anywhere as far as I can tell. In general though, how I feel tends to depend on whether the cache is still there or not. If all it needs is a new log or pencil or the water dumped of it or a replacement tupperware, then it's a nice gesture to take care of the maintainance. On the other hand, though, if the cache appears to be missing (several DNFs on a cache that had no DNFs before, for example) and the cache owner can't be bothered to go check on it (and they don't respond to e-mail and haven't logged into GC.com for a year), then I tend to say "Archive it. Put it and us out of our misery." BTW, you've probably all noticed a sudden upsurge in archival activity. Several caches that have been SBA for months have suddenly been archived. Ditto, caches that have six months of DNFs piled up with no notice of the owner checking on the cache. Anyone know what changed? Edited October 20, 2005 by Let's Look Over Thayer Quote Link to comment
+PassingWind Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 For those of you who are married and have a significant other "not" all that interested in caching.....look what I got myself into!! The Caching Widow Quote Link to comment
+Let's Look Over Thayer Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Anybody else catch Zar's log on his Chupy 4: The Walkabout cache before the log got archived? Here is an edited version: "Log Date: 10/19/2005 Just aiding the 'a&&h@les' at geocachingadmin.com, like Hemlock and SoCalAdmin. Geez, they've really spoiled this sport. I'm getting out, and my caches are going with me." Think he has a chip on his shoulder? I'm guessing he may be referring to Admin's comments on his San Diego: Chupy 1 cache. I saw it. I have rather mixed feelings. I've tried to start this multi on three occasions but I've never found the first WP. Zar responded to my reports of DNFs (only one of which I've logged) and told me what to look for, but I still haven't found it. He's said that he'd check on it "real soon" but months have passed and he hasn't done so. He's offered to give me the coords for the 2nd WP so I could get going, but that hasn't happened either (but to be fair, I haven't pressed him for this. I assume that if I asked in earnest, he would send me the needed information.) My concern is that this particular multi has a lot of WPs. With the first one apparently missing and no one logging anything for months, there is a high probability that other WPs have gone missing as well. Based on earlier logs, this appears to be a high-maintainance cache. If Zar doesn't have the time to maintain this cache, perhaps he should put it up for adoption or let be archived. It's certainly not doing anyone any good in its current state. My hope is that this exchange with Hemlock will inspire Zar to go check all the WPs and make any repairs necessary. Quote Link to comment
+PassingWind Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Anybody else catch Zar's log on his Chupy 4: The Walkabout cache before the log got archived? Here is an edited version: "Log Date: 10/19/2005 Just aiding the 'a&&h@les' at geocachingadmin.com, like Hemlock and SoCalAdmin. Geez, they've really spoiled this sport. I'm getting out, and my caches are going with me." Think he has a chip on his shoulder? I'm guessing he may be referring to Admin's comments on his San Diego: Chupy 1 cache. Interesting.....reminds me of this note posted in a Idaho cache Hey at least they are honest! Quote Link to comment
+PassingWind Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Anybody else catch Zar's log on his Chupy 4: The Walkabout cache before the log got archived? Here is an edited version: "Log Date: 10/19/2005 Just aiding the 'a&&h@les' at geocachingadmin.com, like Hemlock and SoCalAdmin. Geez, they've really spoiled this sport. I'm getting out, and my caches are going with me." Think he has a chip on his shoulder? I'm guessing he may be referring to Admin's comments on his San Diego: Chupy 1 cache. I saw it. I have rather mixed feelings. I've tried to start this multi on three occasions but I've never found the first WP. Zar responded to my reports of DNFs (only one of which I've logged) and told me what to look for, but I still haven't found it. He's said that he'd check on it "real soon" but months have passed and he hasn't done so. He's offered to give me the coords for the 2nd WP so I could get going, but that hasn't happened either (but to be fair, I haven't pressed him for this. I assume that if I asked in earnest, he would send me the needed information.) My concern is that this particular multi has a lot of WPs. With the first one apparently missing and no one logging anything for months, there is a high probability that other WPs have gone missing as well. Based on earlier logs, this appears to be a high-maintainance cache. If Zar doesn't have the time to maintain this cache, perhaps he should put it up for adoption or let be archived. It's certainly not doing anyone any good in its current state. My hope is that this exchange with Hemlock will inspire Zar to go check all the WPs and make any repairs necessary. Just send him this link...... http://www.geocaching.com/adopt/ Over and over and over and over and over........they'll eventually get the point Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I wanted to thank everyone for all the jeep feedback. Sounds like that is definately out of the question since I need this to be my commuter car as well. Whatsa matter C4? Can't get the trunk fixed??? How did I know I was going to hear about this again! Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I wanted to thank everyone for all the jeep feedback. Sounds like that is definately out of the question since I need this to be my commuter car as well. Have you looked at the AWD version of the Toyota Matrix? I have the 2-WD version and love this car. It is very versatile. The back seats fold down absolutely flat. On a camping trip last spring, I slept in it when it was too windy to put up my tent. I have also gotten 34 mpg on the highway with my car. Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) Can you wait a couple more years? It could make it out late next year. The heck with the MPGs, I want one of those! P.S. It's coming out in early 2006! I like it! Maybe I won't have to buy a Jeep as my next off-road vehicle! The future could be as soon as this February! Edited October 20, 2005 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
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