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Does the Oregon 600 support other languages? Can I enter text with a different keyboard similar to what I can do with an iPhone?

 

Yes to both questions.

 

Which language input does the Oregon 600 support? Is Chinese one of them?

 

I see Arabic, Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Farsi, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Italian, Latvian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Slovakian, Slovenian, Spanish, Swedish, and Turkish.

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Larry, sorry to hear about (and see) your scratched up screen. That sucks, I've been there. Lessons learned the hard way, on a device you take hiking, camping, hunting, and rock scrambling, always use a screen protector. The $15 in pocket money spent on a protector could save you that terrible sinking feeling (and $100).

I've had a screen protector (Zagg brand) on my 550t since soon after I bought it. Has anyone begun offering a screen protector that fits the Oregon 6x0 series? I'd rather not cut my own, so I'm interested only in one designed for the new series.

 

I just checked the Zagg Web site. They offer a generic invisibleSHIELD protector for the Garmin Oregon series, but if that's cut for the 4x0 and 5x0 units, it won't fit the larger screens on the 6x0 series.

 

--Larry

 

I went to the Zagg shop they custom made one for my Oregon 650T

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So yesterday I took my 650 out for a second test-cache.

I have about 20000 caches on it now and maps for belgium, the netherlands, luxemburg and three US states :-))

 

At the first wp the compass did have some difficulties. Pointing in the right direction for a second and than changing to the oposite direction, and agai, and again...

But by the second wp this was gone and the precesion was as good as with my 60csx ( so perhaps it does need a bit more time to "warm up").

 

I used the lock-screen features every time I put it in my pocket and this works just fine.

 

The overview on the maps is a lot better than on my 60, but the map has the tendency to turn around, so I'll have look if there is an option to lock that.

 

So I'm pretty satisfied. It's a big step forward from the 60csx with regards to nmb of caches, maps, paperless caching and map reading and the accuracy seems to be fine, we'll see how that holds up when we hit the Smokey's.

 

(Just thought I add some positve comments)

(By the way, we do have a perfectly fitting screen protector, but I'm sorry I don't know the brand, bought it in thr waypoint shop (belgium), but it's not on their site)

 

Regards

Anann

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I used the lock-screen features every time I put it in my pocket and this works just fine.

How do you lock the screen?

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On the Montana shorty push the on/off and a screen pops up, then tap the lock.

 

That didn't work on my 650 and I still have not figured out how to lock the screen but I did figure out how to keep the orientation in portrait mode which is nice: Setup --> Display --> Orientation Lock

 

Never mind, the power button did bring up the lock icon. I don't know how I missed it before.

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You should be able to tap the power button to bring up the status page (with the brightness bar) and then tap the padlock icon. Maybe you set up your keys to do something else? Setup -> System -> Configure Keys -> Power Key -> Single Tap should say Status Page.

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You should be able to tap the power button to bring up the status page (with the brightness bar) and then tap the padlock icon. Maybe you set up your keys to do something else? Setup -> System -> Configure Keys -> Power Key -> Single Tap should say Status Page.

You can set up the "lock screen" this way. I've linked it to the double tap of the power key.

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Never mind, the power button did bring up the lock icon. I don't know how I missed it before.

 

If you don't know or aren't looking for it, you often just don't see it. :rolleyes:

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Never mind, the power button did bring up the lock icon. I don't know how I missed it before.

 

If you don't know or aren't looking for it, you often just don't see it. :rolleyes:

 

Well, the sad thing is that I was looking for it. When I saw the brightness level bar come up, i didn't think it would be on the same screen so I moved on. :o

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Good News!!! Garmin have released their monthly update for the Garmin 6xx (at http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=6157).

 

The Bad News is that v2.9 only cures 2 minor problems according to Garmin (* Fixed issue with route calculations always avoiding seasonally closed roads: * Fixed USB compatibility issue)

 

Chris

Edited by Matthew 7:7 Too

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So they make an 'update' to solve USB compatibility issues and this is good news??

The 'update' is successful, all good so far.

 

I mean, how low can expectancy go???

 

They make the most beautiful Gps'es, about 450 models on the moment, these models must have more or less the same software somehow, shouldn't we expect and get a normal good working Gps??

At least a gps without usb issues, or didn't they even test the usb.

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I mean, how low can expectancy go???

Name one technology product these days that doesn't require revision and updates?

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You obviously you didn't read the 6XX Wiki yet.

 

Garmin has +450 models on the moment and not even the usb is stable?

Are they reinventing the wheel on every model, because by now the software should be working.

 

O yes, I forgot they have about 60 unresolved issues with the Montana, Garmin considers the Montana an old model (2years)

so don't expect to much firmware updates, is what Garmin says.

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Gah! Think I might be confused again. Really enjoying using our Oregon 600 on our two week camping trip in Dorset, England.

 

BUT, where the heck do we read the mini-logs that we typed into a few of the caches we found?

 

I tried and tried to find them last night, but they were nowhere to be seen!

 

If, for instance, I go to the cache details from the main Geocaching button, there is nothing there for "view log" and if I press "log" it looks like I'm logging for the first time: my previous notes are not there.

 

Help! (And thanks!!)

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On previous Oregons you couldn't see them either. When you upload your field notes to,the froggie it inserts it. If hooked to a computer open the geovisits file or the one that garmin uses for logging.

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Walts, ah thanks for that: confirms my suspicions :)

 

Will continue to just log straight onto my phone instead then.

 

Cheers.

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Garmin has +450 models on the moment and not even the usb is stable?

Are they reinventing the wheel on every model, because by now the software should be working.

 

O yes, I forgot they have about 60 unresolved issues with the Montana, Garmin considers the Montana an old model (2years)

so don't expect to much firmware updates, is what Garmin says.

Technology is constantly evolving, even the USB standard. Don't think for a sec that the USB standard is fixed. A for unresolved bugs. What's new? There'll always be bugs when it comes to softwares. If you want 99.9% bug free softwares, be prepared to pay military pricing, double digit multiple of consumer pricing. That's just life!

 

Just be thankful that Garmin keeps up with these updates.

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Yeah, right keep on hoping, but I'm afraid it won't be resolved, because experience with Garmin learns, they don't actually resolve software problems.

The bug free military pricing is total nonsense, we have zillions gadgets that do what they have to do for a normal price, including many Garmin models.

It's the outdoor models they seem to have problems with.

 

What happens now isn't new, it happened with many models before.

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Yeah, right keep on hoping, but I'm afraid it won't be resolved, because experience with Garmin learns, they don't actually resolve software problems.

The bug free military pricing is total nonsense, we have zillions gadgets that do what they have to do for a normal price, including many Garmin models.

It's the outdoor models they seem to have problems with.

Good luck with your quest in finding a bug free GPS unit out there. I wish you luck.

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I've never had any GPS from any make that is bug free, and I'm not sure it's possible.

 

Given the vast number of options/modes/capabilities that we seek and the manufacturers provide and the different ways we all operate them using different maps and various software versions I don't think any GPS would make it to market, it would be obsolescent well before then if we insisted manufacturers only release them once they are 100% bug free :rolleyes:

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Bug free is something else, but I wonder why people insist a Gps with about 60 issues and freezing or shutting off all the time is a normal way of presenting a new model on the market.

If this would happen on your tablet or smartphone you would bring it straight away back to the seller.

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While my Oregon 650t is far from perfect, it does have two HUGE advantages over all the older Garmin models: First it doesn't fatally crash on booting like the two older Oregons and three 62 models I have owned did. Second, I can store as many geocaches as I will ever possibly want on it. Those are HUGE advantages and worth putting up with bugs and annoyances. I'm pretty happy!

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While my Oregon 650t is far from perfect, it does have two HUGE advantages over all the older Garmin models: First it doesn't fatally crash on booting like the two older Oregons and three 62 models I have owned did. Second, I can store as many geocaches as I will ever possibly want on it. Those are HUGE advantages and worth putting up with bugs and annoyances. I'm pretty happy!

 

My 400t has never fatally crashed - at worst it just freezes and restarts when you remove and then replace the batteries.

 

I'd like to be able to replace it with a 650 for its brighter screen and ability to see cache pictures, and was hoping to get one for my birthday in November. But I can't decide which year yet :rolleyes:

Edited by Matthew 7:7 Too

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I've never had any GPS from any make that is bug free, and I'm not sure it's possible.

 

I have 2 GPS60CSx units and I have been using them for over 5 years. I cannot recall when I had a problem or bug with either of them. I wanted a unit with the capability to have the hints etc on the unit so I did some research and decided to buy the Oregon 600. While on vacation, I tried it for a cache run. Not at all happy with the interface. AND the battery usage is pathetic. I can take my 60CSx out for several days of caching a few hours at a time and not worry about the batteries going dead. But, the new unit, terrible.

 

The user interface probably needs some customization to make it more user friendly. But the battery issue alone is enough to make me take this one back.

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I've never had any GPS from any make that is bug free, and I'm not sure it's possible.

 

I have 2 GPS60CSx units and I have been using them for over 5 years. I cannot recall when I had a problem or bug with either of them. I wanted a unit with the capability to have the hints etc on the unit so I did some research and decided to buy the Oregon 600. While on vacation, I tried it for a cache run. Not at all happy with the interface. AND the battery usage is pathetic. I can take my 60CSx out for several days of caching a few hours at a time and not worry about the batteries going dead. But, the new unit, terrible.

 

The user interface probably needs some customization to make it more user friendly. But the battery issue alone is enough to make me take this one back.

There is a reason that you have not noticed any bugs in either of your 60CSx devices.

 

The Garmin 60CSx was introduced in 2005-2006, approximately 7 or 8 years ago. The bugs were located and removed before you got your 60CSx's.

Edited by Barrikady

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I'd like to be able to replace it with a 650 for its brighter screen and ability to see cache pictures, and was hoping to get one for my birthday in November. But I can't decide which year yet :rolleyes:

Good chuckle!!! :lol: That's how I feel about replacing my 450, some year Maybe!

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The Garmin 60CSx was introduced in 2005-2006, approximately 7 or 8 years ago. The bugs were located and removed before you got your 60CSx's.

+1! Even then, there'll still be those obscure bugs. No consumer tech company would chase those bugs to the end nor needed. The functionalities provided are more than adequate for the customers.

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And what about the Bluetooth function?

 

Is the O650 able to communicate with an Androïd phone?

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I've never had any GPS from any make that is bug free, and I'm not sure it's possible.

 

I have 2 GPS60CSx units and I have been using them for over 5 years. I cannot recall when I had a problem or bug with either of them. I wanted a unit with the capability to have the hints etc on the unit so I did some research and decided to buy the Oregon 600. While on vacation, I tried it for a cache run. Not at all happy with the interface. AND the battery usage is pathetic. I can take my 60CSx out for several days of caching a few hours at a time and not worry about the batteries going dead. But, the new unit, terrible.

 

The user interface probably needs some customization to make it more user friendly. But the battery issue alone is enough to make me take this one back.

There is a reason that you have not noticed any bugs in either of your 60CSx devices.

 

The Garmin 60CSx was introduced in 2005-2006, approximately 7 or 8 years ago. The bugs were located and removed before you got your 60CSx's.

 

Really? Think your memory may be failing, 13 software updates to correct 'bugs' ... http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=1246

 

As I originally posted, don't think any GPS could ever be released 100% bug free :laughing:

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The user interface probably needs some customization to make it more user friendly. But the battery issue alone is enough to make me take this one back.

 

Did you have the unit in "Battery Save" mode? My guess is not. In fact there is some chance you had the backlight on 100%, backlight timeout set to "Stays On" and screen refresh set to "Fast" and "Track Up". Then you go out and post to the world that the 6xx has terrible battery life. Yeah, it might, if you ignore all the settings that Garmin has provided to maximize battery life.

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And what about the Bluetooth function?

Is the O650 able to communicate with an Androïd phone?

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Ok, I need to clarify a few things. First off, I bought one of my 60CSX's in July of 06. The second one 6 months later. I have not had any issues with either unit. EVER.

 

To address the settings that I have the Oregon 600 set to: Battery saver is on. Backlight timeout is set to 30 seconds. What I found strange was that within an hour or so, the unit would display a message stating that the backlight could not be used because the battery power was not high enough.

 

I have not seen where the screen 'refresh' can be changed. I have map speed set to normal. I also have it set to track up.

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The backlight message only happens when the battery settings are set to alkaline -- what you you using for batteries, and is the setting in setup -> system correctly reflecting that?

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I am in fact using alkaline batteries. I've used alkaline batteries since the beginning. I know enough to make sure that the settings are set for the proper type of battery.

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Ok, I need to clarify a few things. First off, I bought one of my 60CSX's in July of 06. The second one 6 months later. I have not had any issues with either unit. EVER.

 

 

You clearly didn't notice or use the issues reported that led to these 13 software updates then ...

 

http://www8.garmin.c...ils.jsp?id=1246

 

But then I've never had any issues with my Etrex 20 either ... although others assure me there are problems.

 

It's why any GPS is never 100% bug free ... we all use them differently and some 'bugs' are only ever apparent to some users.

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I am in fact using alkaline batteries. I've used alkaline batteries since the beginning. I know enough to make sure that the settings are set for the proper type of battery.

 

Get a pair of NiMH rechargeable batteries. I use Sanyo Eneloops and get much better battery life than you're reporting.

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Took the 600 out for a geocaching run today. There's a few things I wonder if anyone else has wondered about. First off, When getting closer to the cache (under .5 mile), I see where the distance count down is in 1/10's only until it gets under 1 tenth of a mile then it converts to feet. Does anyone know if the 1/10's can be changed to 1/100's.

 

Also I noticed that when I approach a cache that is on the side of the road, the arrow isn't as responsive as it could be to let me know which direction to walk. I have to depend on the distance going up or down to see which way I need to go next. If I switch over to compass, it doesn't look like it is even seeing the current cache. I know that with the 60CSx, as the distance counts down and gets under 50 feet the arrow will point in the direction of the cache. Im not sure if its a setting I don't have set right or what it could be.

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Also I noticed that when I approach a cache that is on the side of the road, the arrow isn't as responsive as it could be to let me know which direction to walk. I have to depend on the distance going up or down to see which way I need to go next. If I switch over to compass, it doesn't look like it is even seeing the current cache. I know that with the 60CSx, as the distance counts down and gets under 50 feet the arrow will point in the direction of the cache. Im not sure if its a setting I don't have set right or what it could be.

 

I have had the same experience with the compass. In any kind of tree cover, it is worthless. I have pretty much given up trying to use the compass very much, and, like you, just watch the numbers counting down. That brings up the question: If the unit knows its position relative to the destination, it should be able to display the compass accurately.

 

And a question I have wondered about: If my $15 cheapie compass can always display directions accurately, regardless of tree cover, why can't the GPS receivers use the same method, but converted to an electronic format? I assume the answer is because they rely on GPS signals rather than magnetic fields, but why can't they use either or both?

 

I also agree with you: The 6xx units have less reliable compasses than my older 62. I sure hope they can improve the situation with a software update!

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Also I noticed that when I approach a cache that is on the side of the road, the arrow isn't as responsive as it could be to let me know which direction to walk. I have to depend on the distance going up or down to see which way I need to go next. If I switch over to compass, it doesn't look like it is even seeing the current cache. I know that with the 60CSx, as the distance counts down and gets under 50 feet the arrow will point in the direction of the cache. Im not sure if its a setting I don't have set right or what it could be.

 

I have had the same experience with the compass. In any kind of tree cover, it is worthless. I have pretty much given up trying to use the compass very much, and, like you, just watch the numbers counting down. That brings up the question: If the unit knows its position relative to the destination, it should be able to display the compass accurately.

 

And a question I have wondered about: If my $15 cheapie compass can always display directions accurately, regardless of tree cover, why can't the GPS receivers use the same method, but converted to an electronic format? I assume the answer is because they rely on GPS signals rather than magnetic fields, but why can't they use either or both?

 

I also agree with you: The 6xx units have less reliable compasses than my older 62. I sure hope they can improve the situation with a software update!

 

I have had compass issues too when close to the cache. In my other Garmin units, when I changed batteries, I had to recalibrate to get the electronic compass to work properly. I plug my 650t into power in the Jeep and thought maybe it messes up the electronic compass every time it charges.

 

BTW: Is there a way to turn of the electronic compass like I could do on my 60?

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BTW: Is there a way to turn of the electronic compass like I could do on my 60?

 

Setup -> Heading -> Compass

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And a question I have wondered about: If my $15 cheapie compass can always display directions accurately, regardless of tree cover, why can't the GPS receivers use the same method, but converted to an electronic format? I assume the answer is because they rely on GPS signals rather than magnetic fields, but why can't they use either or both?

It is because your location is jumping around. the direction of the cache to where the GPS thinks you are located is changing. The compass itself is working fine.

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Has anyone experimented with the Bluetooth connectivity of the 600 yet. I was looking online and a bluetooth dongle for a computer is fairly inexpensive and Im curious as to whether the caches can be sent to and retrieved from the unit via Bluetooth.

 

Still, no one has figured out whether the count down distance can be changed to display 1/100ths like the 60CSx did?

 

BTW, grabbed a few sets of the eneloops to see how they work. Got tired of seeing the warning about there not being enough power to see the backlight. I did change as many settings as possible to conserve power. Its amazing how fast a minute goes by and the screen turns off when you are looking for a cache. But a simple button push brings it back on.

Edited by Berta, Nick and Zoey

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Is it just me that finds that if you turn off the unit and then on again the accuracy gets better and jumping around stops??

 

-M

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I'm having a problem with edited waypoints.

 

The unit works fine with data from GPX files and leads me straight to the right place, within the limitations of prevailing conditions of accuracy, obviously.

 

However, if I am doing a puzzle or multi cache, the waypoints I enter to find the cache are way out when I try to use them. I do it by creating a new waypoint with the user button, and then editing it to the exact coordinates I want. If I try to navigate to the waypoint and compare with navigation using my phone, I'm finding the Oregon is showing me a location about 350 feet away from the correct one. I checked this by manually editing coordinates to match those of a cache I had found in the middle of a bridge. The Oregon was pointing me about 350 feet away from the cache in the middle of the river below.

 

Is there something I am doing wrong?

 

I'm really disappointed, because having spent loads of money on the 600 and given away my old Etrex Legend in part exchange, I now seem to be faced with the prospect of buying another cheaper GPS just to use for entering waypoints.

 

BTW, this has happened on several occasions now. Each time I have checked the coordinates several times to make sure I did not make an error while inputting them.

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Some people claim the 600 is working perfect, others have many different problems, one issue is a bad accuracy ,another jumping and not being stable.

The problem is the Gps, not the user and hopefully they resolve these issues in the next firmware update.

 

The wiki claims about 40 issues on the moment.

http://garminoregon6xx.wikispaces.com/Common+Issues

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