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Ha ha. Powermower and I told a couple of guys that were working on their mailbox post near a cache that we were mailbox inspectors. After we all got a good laugh we explained what we were really doing. Everything was okay.

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I used the old wildlife tracking excuse for being caught in the middle of the night. You can get away with a lot when you look like your talking on a phone. Wear a yellow workers jacket this keeps people away too.

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A mad dash back to the vehicle is always fun. It just depends on the situation if they look like outdoorsy types ill explain the game but if its dark i rather just avoid confrontation if possible. Never had a face to face encounter at night tho

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We were searching in a high muggles area recently when one female muggle asked me what we were doing. Rather than try to explain it, I decided to tell her that my pet hamster got away and we were trying to find him; she bought it... and then she helped us look. We never found my poor hamster. :)

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I got caught by a muggle coming out of the woods, so I initially ignored him and walked partially down a dead-end path, then back out again. He was just standing there at the top of the hill waiting for me. I thought "uh oh...I'm caught". Instead of asking what I was doing, he asked about if I knew where the "walking path" was for the park. He was actually standing on it, so I told him he was on it and that I was also just looking for alternate paths thru the woods, but couldn't find a way across the creek. He just said "oh" and walked off. Luckily, that was the only one I've encountered so far.

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Although this entry is slightly off at a tangent! I went on a first to find mission that was down a lane and quite quiet. I had my little girl in a baby carrier and was merrily walking down the lane and an elderly couple appeared from the bushes! I said "Are you doing what I think your doing?" They paused thought for a bit and said, "What do you think we were doing?" I grinned and said Geocaching! They looked most relieved and said yes! We had a good chat and parted company. I like it when I meet fellow geocachers as it means you can put a face to a name.

 

Noone has asked me yet but I would be honest and tell them straight, as I'm not a good lier!

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Actually I have been asked what I was doing with a friend of mine, it has just come back to me!

 

A tricky local cache we were both struggling with and there was no one around apart from a tractor ploughing a field in the distance. It look us ages because there were loads of brambles near GZ. Out the corner of my eye the tractor was coming up the field like he had finished and I thought he would head down the lane and away to the farm but he just got closer and closer and my friend was getting worried as to what we were going to say.

 

I still thought he was going to pass right on by but he didn't he drove up to us ( a very nice YOUNG farmer I might add!!!!:P) We smiled sweetly as he jumped out of the cab and he said very politely "What are you doing?" I attempted to be as charming as possible and came clean and said Geocaching. He looked a bit puzzled and we continued to explain how it works and which site to visit. He then said we were on private land. Which we both found confusing as it was to the entrance of a public church? but we smiled sweetly and said we would report this and high tailed it home!

 

Now I'm married but my friend isn't and on the way back all I did was kid my friend up that he would have made suitable boyfriend material! I'm not sure she agreed though!

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At 6'1" 225lb with a shaved head, a ton of tattoos and piercings, i don't tend to have people stick around to ask me anything. Most people tend to avoid me and not really interact in any way. A couple of times I have come out of the brush to encounter a muggle and they have almost always just moved on with a tinge of fear in their eyes.

 

If asked, I would tell the truth about what I am doing. Only once have I been asked, and I told the young lady exactly what I was doing. She responded that she would buy a GPSr and take her kids along as it sounds fun!

 

Sometimes the "big scary guy" image is a benefit. Doesn't help me make friends, but it keeps people from asking too many questions

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So, I was geocaching today and a muggle came up upon me. Asked what I was doing. Explained I was geocaching and he was still confused and then proceeded to tell me I was in a private neighborhood and was trespassing. Explained to him that the person who created and left a hidden container explained this was a private neighborhood and that he gave geocachers permission to enter it and look for them. Guy demanded to know name of person. Informed him that I was not sure and could only provide username. Then proceeded to ask me if he could take a picture of the info on my phone so he could report the game to the members at the board meeting that evening. He also told me that I was parked alongside an airplane runway. (Mind you this is in a private neighborhood and the runway was a marked street with NO signage saying do not park in area for it’s a runway). 

I apologized and left immediately. Guy was borderline rude despite calling me a nice lady. He was still friendly but I doubt he believed me when I tried to explain the game concept behind geocaching. Was surprised he didn’t call the police on me. 

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I'm very sorry you met this kind of muggle so early in your geocaching life. I hope it won't make you quit the game. This kind of situation is not frequent at all. 

One thing I would do would be to inform the cache owner of what happened, either in my log or by private message. 

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8 hours ago, Khudsontn said:

I apologized and left immediately.

Sounds like you did the right thing by explaining and leaving when asked, and as others have said mention it on the log so that others (including the CO) are aware, it could be that the CO is a resident and it might prompt him to mention it to the board. I don't think it's a very common occurence.

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7 hours ago, Pontiac_CZ said:

No. 1 - in the log so other geocachers know as well what they might be running into.

You may want to PM the reviewer who published the cache and let them follow up with the cache owner.

As a board member of a home owner association I can tell you that residents would not be allowed to place caches on the common property without permission of the board.

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Homeowner associations are always a constant source of delight.  "How can I legally bind my neighbors to comport themselves with my expectations?  I know!  I'll build it into the deed!"

I've come across a number of geocaches that were hidden on common neighborhood property.  The caches almost always require parking next to a "NO TRESPASSING" sign, and the descriptions all tend to state something along the lines of, "The sign says 'NO TRESPASSING,' but don't worry, it's open to homeowners and their guests, and I am a homeowner, and you are my guest."  These tend to last about 24 hours after any homeowner other than the cache owner gets a whiff of filthy nonresident geocachers bumbling about their sacred community and complains to the HOA.

edit: no, as a transient Army attorney, I've never owned a home.  Perhaps once I retire from my unwashed hobo lifestyle and buy a house, I'll change my views and see HOAs as the last, best defense against the murdering hordes that I hear are sweeping across America.  Time will tell.

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16 hours ago, Khudsontn said:

So, I was geocaching today and a muggle came up upon me. Asked what I was doing. Explained I was geocaching and he was still confused and then proceeded to tell me I was in a private neighborhood and was trespassing. Explained to him that the person who created and left a hidden container explained this was a private neighborhood and that he gave geocachers permission to enter it and look for them. Guy demanded to know name of person. Informed him that I was not sure and could only provide username. Then proceeded to ask me if he could take a picture of the info on my phone so he could report the game to the members at the board meeting that evening. He also told me that I was parked alongside an airplane runway. (Mind you this is in a private neighborhood and the runway was a marked street with NO signage saying do not park in area for it’s a runway). 

I apologized and left immediately. Guy was borderline rude despite calling me a nice lady. He was still friendly but I doubt he believed me when I tried to explain the game concept behind geocaching. Was surprised he didn’t call the police on me. 

Just my two cents......

I'd never allow anyone any information from my phone, even if all they ask is a picture. That sounds suspiciously like they were hoping you would add 2+2 and offer to send it to them, giving them your phone number in the process. 

I'd offer to write down all the information they wanted and give them the address for Geocaching.com, allowing them to obtain whatever they desired. Somewhere in that process I'd mention, "Give me a few minutes and I'll show you what I'm looking for."

At which point if he chooses to bring in a homeowners representative or the police, I'd welcome a third party for my own safety.

 

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1 hour ago, garyo1954 said:

Just my two cents......

I'd never allow anyone any information from my phone, even if all they ask is a picture. That sounds suspiciously like they were hoping you would add 2+2 and offer to send it to them, giving them your phone number in the process. 

I'd offer to write down all the information they wanted and give them the address for Geocaching.com, allowing them to obtain whatever they desired. Somewhere in that process I'd mention, "Give me a few minutes and I'll show you what I'm looking for."

At which point if he chooses to bring in a homeowners representative or the police, I'd welcome a third party for my own safety.

 

I agree.  Some point in that confrontation, I might just call the police myself.  :)

We've yet to be on a association property that turned out well.  One CO asked us to "stop in the office" before you start looking.  Archived... Another promised all knew that people would be looking, but he was only a temp resident there and no one knew who we were talking about.  Archived...  There are still a couple caches inside a vacation/resort area (even requires a toll to enter) that's managed to still be in play, but most here go bye-bye after someone places the correct action to it.

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On several occasions, I have donned a "Hi Viz" jacket and either a hard hat, or a woolly bobble hat.

Although you are very visible, you also blend in, nobody questions a worker who is inspecting the underside of a park bench, or the (safe side) of the roadside barriers, and if you occasionally jot something on a piece of paper, "I never noticed him, he was just a worker"

Works for me!

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One reason I tend to want to avoid caches in private subdivisions.  Even in looser urban neighborhoods you can stand out to the residents.  The oldest cache in Georgia is in a common area of a private neighborhood and I can't for the life of me understand how it still hangs around.  I think the HOA requires the CO disable it and remove the container during the local mega events so there aren't hordes of cachers coming through.  It's pratically in someone's backyard...and I'm pretty sure if that were my house I'd ask them to remove it.  It's just not worth the hassle going into areas like that.

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21 minutes ago, bmwman said:

On several occasions, I have donned a "Hi Viz" jacket and either a hard hat, or a woolly bobble hat.

Although you are very visible, you also blend in, nobody questions a worker who is inspecting the underside of a park bench, or the (safe side) of the roadside barriers, and if you occasionally jot something on a piece of paper, "I never noticed him, he was just a worker"

Works for me!

Very good.  Guess that might be a location/regional thing...

 - Here, many would either ask "what the (expletive deleted) you're doing?" or dial 911 of a suspicious person. Our roads, and most parks crews have markings identifying who they are and where they belong.

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Well, you know us Brits, a bit reserved, most us don't like to interfere too much!

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We usually just say we're playing a GPS game and trying to find an exact spot--we'll show them the GPSr but don't mention the cache.  People aren't too interested in 2 middle aged folks walking around with a GPSr, but when you mention a physical cache, that's when it changes.

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