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August 14, 2005

I have what i think is kinda a funny cache location. I would make a fake "grave" of stacked up rocks with a cross at the top, and i would hide the cache inside, but i have bones from various animals that i could disperse in the rocks every once in a while...think anyone would find it?

August 14, 2005

I'm not sure we want to encourage grave-robbing. Having said that, if you had some indication on your cache page of what was required, I'd do it. Of course, if you thought being caught by a muggle while looking under a park bench was bad...

3.3k · August 14, 2005

I'm hesitant to say "go for it". The bones will attract animals, and the setup will attract muggles.

3.8k · August 14, 2005

It's just not right.

24.7k · August 14, 2005

Interesting idea. It's not against the guidelines, but be sure to have permission to build it on whoevers property you hide it on. The idea involves too much terraforming to do anything else.

1.4k · August 14, 2005

After the problems that we as geocachers have been having in cemeteries is some parts of the country, I think this is a very bad idea.

Please don't do it.

August 14, 2005

The word ghoulish comes to mind.

Zephyr

August 14, 2005

Ditto! Really bad idea, please don't! Ths goes against every image of geocaching we are trying to show land managers!

2.3k · August 14, 2005

From the Guidelines:

For all cache types please be sensible when choosing your location for cache placement. Please be aware of what may be a perceived to a non geocacher as dangerous or questionable behavior. For example, suspicious looking characters wandering about near an elementary school. The land may be public property, but keep in mind what is on the other side of that property line

This would apply to the OPs idea

6.1k · August 14, 2005

What would happen is that the cache would attract attention from muggles. Also, geocachers would uncover the cache and not cover it back the same way. Why not wait until the Halloween stuff comes out in the stores and get a cheap motion/light activated skull that lights up and laughs. Hide it in a dark place such as a hollow tree or a small pipe that stays dry and put the cache directly in front of it.

38.2k · August 14, 2005

I'd say its not advisable. Someone finds it and the next time they're in a cemetery they think "Hmmmm, maybe that grave is fake and its in there". Next thing ya know geocaching is on the national news.

August 14, 2005

I'd like to think this wouldn't get approved if you submitted the details. It would just be a problem waiting to happen. All it would take would be the suspicion that a "missing person" could potentially be found there and the local police would be digging the site up. Not the type of news headlines we'd want associated with geocaching.

edited for spelling

Edited August 14, 2005 by Bibba

2.3k · August 14, 2005

Please don't do it.

August 14, 2005

Human nature: people are attracted to wierd dead things. And doing it in a cemetary is bad.

7.2k · August 14, 2005

I have what i think is kinda a funny cache location. I would make a fake "grave" of stacked up rocks with a cross at the top, and i would hide the cache inside, but i have bones from various animals that i could disperse in the rocks every once in a while...think anyone would find it?

That wouldn't go over very well with folks here. We're the first state in the nation to face legislation restricting geocaching because somebody got offended with caches in and around cemetaries.

In fact, place something like that here and you might find it physically removed by the locals without word or warning.

If you're looking to do something like that keep it "halloween-ish" Here is a good place to get some ideas.

Hope this helps.

7.3k · August 14, 2005

I'd say you could do it - but it would have to be on private property - your own, or a friends. Not any kind of public property.

1k · August 14, 2005

It's still a bad idea, even if it's on private property:

I'd say its not advisable. Someone finds it and the next time they're in a cemetery they think "Hmmmm, maybe that grave is fake and its in there". Next thing ya know geocaching is on the national news.

August 14, 2005

That is pretty darn strange.

You need to have your meds increased.

3.9k · August 14, 2005

Bad idea. I can just picture the headlines when a muggle comes acrossed it and calls Law Enforcement thinking they found a grave.

El Diablo

22k · August 15, 2005

I don't care if it's a roadside memorial, bad idea.

But thank you for asking. Seriously!

Edited August 15, 2005 by BlueDeuce

August 15, 2005

Somebody's got to ask this question:

Doesn't this violate the rules as a buried cache?

August 15, 2005

I would think it would violate more than one rule, moral and otherwise!!

August 15, 2005

Perhaps for a temp event cache but there are too many things going against it for a regular placed cache.

August 15, 2005

lol ok ok so it was a bad idea! but ill make something funny...but ill ask about that again too! lol

20.7k · August 15, 2005

Somebody's got to ask this question:

Doesn't this violate the rules as a buried cache?

No. The guidelines allow rocks to be stacked on top of the cache. Many are hid in this manner.

Back on topic, with some minor alterations to the idea, this could be a feasible idea. First, skip the bones. Second, as CR suggested, make the marker cartoonishly halloweeny (that reminds me of a joke...). I think the grave of G.O. Cache might be kinda fun to visit this fall.

August 15, 2005

a cache in my area was put in a cemetary next to a marker that was a 5 day old infant. he created a floral arrangement and underneath it is a tupperware container. you have to lift the floral out of the pot/planter thing in order the find the tuppereare. My mom and I searched for almost an hour for it and it was suppose to be a 1/1

it was one of theses things...

Edited August 15, 2005 by wreckelite

6.7k · August 15, 2005

Not much point carrying this thread on - many Reviewers have weighed in with their strong dissapproval and requests to avoid this kind of thing.

Not much use debating a cache that there is no way in Hades will get listed here!

20.7k · August 15, 2005

Has there been any debating? As far as I've read, people have simply been weighing in. Whether any variant would get listed totally depends on the implementation, packaging, and communication with the reviewer.

Edited August 15, 2005 by sbell111

2.3k · August 16, 2005

Not much point carrying this thread on - many Reviewers have weighed in with their strong dissapproval and requests to avoid this kind of thing.

Not much use debating a cache that there is no way in Hades will get listed here!

Many reviewers? I count only 2. Altho other reviewers probably would be in agreement with those 2.

Personally I think it could work if on private property and tweaked as CR and sbell111 suggest.

Edited August 16, 2005 by Corp Of Discovery

4.1k · August 16, 2005

<_< :huh: This cache is not in a cemetery but the finders have really enjoyed it. Ghastly fun!

I wonder when was the last time you went to a cemetery and saw a grave covered by a pile of rocks? Who said they were going to put it in a cemetery?

Don't worry about animals getting after the bones if they have been weathered and bleached by the sun. We know of several areas where a critter has died and the bones remained undisturbed for over 2 years; Another non-problem.

Why would it have to be on private property? It wouldn't be a problem out here on BLM or state lands where caching is allowed. Just use some discretion when choosing where to set it up.

I suggest you wait to see how the cache page is written and where it is placed before condemning the idea. :rolleyes: Nothing like having an approver with an open mind to new ideas.....

John

20.7k · August 16, 2005

In my opinion, private property would be important for two reasons. The lesser of the two is that permission would be difficult to obtain. The more important is that on my own property, I can tell detractors to take a hike.

I wqas thinking 'no bones' for more of a health reason. I don't have any real clue, but I feared some sort of nasty bacterial issues.

August 16, 2005

I have what i think is kinda a funny cache location. I would make a fake "grave" of stacked up rocks with a cross at the top, and i would hide the cache inside, but i have bones from various animals that i could disperse in the rocks every once in a while...think anyone would find it?

This is clever but not particularly funny. I think the prevailing consensus is that it would not be a plus for the sport.

August 16, 2005

i agree, and also i never said it was in a cemetary, thats messed up! but i might do something like that for halloween night!...and then close it down after that, but that might be kinda exciting? what do you think about a one night hunt? 9 and yes bones are bleached and perfectly clean)

August 16, 2005

only if my TB was a FTF item

20.7k · August 16, 2005

A one night hunt wouldn't be approved, but you could agree to disassemble the 'grave' after halloween and keep the cache hidden nearby.

Edited August 16, 2005 by sbell111

August 16, 2005

a cache in my area was put in a cemetary next to a marker that was a 5 day old infant. he created a floral arrangement and underneath it is a tupperware container. you have to lift the floral out of the pot/planter thing in order the find the tuppereare. My mom and I searched for almost an hour for it and it was suppose to be a 1/1

it was one of theses things...

That's a sick thing to do -- but who's the person wandering around with a huge bag over their head?

20.7k · August 16, 2005

That's a sick thing to do -- but who's the person wandering around with a huge bag over their head?

That's the unknown comic, paying his respects.

August 17, 2005

I agree that it could be great in the right area, I think it's funny. Some people clearly don't, but I sure do read alot in these forums, 'if you don't like it, then don't hunt it'. A pile of rocks with a stick cross is pretty cartoonish, really someone is going to dipose of a body in this fashion? please

August 17, 2005

That's a sick thing to do -- but who's the person wandering around with a huge bag over their head?

i'm not sure....that isn't the pic of the cache...I pulled that off of google images. I don't have a pic of the real cache in question. But that i what he made for us to find.

August 17, 2005

really someone is going to dipose of a body in this fashion? please

they did in the olden days...

this picture if of the oldest plot in the Drummond Cemetery...it didn't have the "unknown" headstone but it did have the pile of rocks. the headstone was added later.

edited to shrink picture!

Edited August 17, 2005 by wreckelite

August 17, 2005

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August 17, 2005

you sould rig something so when FTF finds it a fake body falls frome the trees but then you would have to go back after every hit and reset it

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