How many hidden caches do YOU have?

October 12, 2003

OK, I know I can go and look in a members stats if I am interested in that person in particular. What I was wondering was, who has the most hidden caches - or, more so, how many!

What do you think is a sensible number for anyone to maintain? Bearing in mind that some will have less time available than others this will vary. But, in an ideal world, how many would you wish to be responsible for? ( I assume that you would wish to spend some time searching out others caches too!

Only nuts eat squirrels,

Snake

1.9k · October 13, 2003

I have 25 BUT 10 of those have been archived and 3 are unavailabe till i can run out to cohech or archive them

Now where did I set my GPS??? planetrobert.net

3.8k · October 13, 2003

The Lil Otter, in Wisconsin, has 199 caches.

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**(the other 9 out of 10 voices in my head say: "Don't do it.")**

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38.2k · October 13, 2003

I have 58 total and 46 currently active. I've found that 40-50 caches are about the most I could conceivably maintain, so I've been archiving my less popular, or less interesting caches as I place new ones (besides, I'm running low on ammo boxes and have to recycle them).

I really don't see how anyone could have the time to maintain 100, or 200 caches, but if they can, more power to them!

"You can't make a man by standing a sheep on his hind legs. But by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" - Max Beerbohm

October 13, 2003

I have 2, but I'm not trying hard enough!

"I'm 35 Years old, I am divorced, and I live in van down by the river!" - Matt Foley

4.8k · October 13, 2003

I have 8, but I'm lazy Besides I didn't think size mattered

Be not afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them. The rest go geocaching.

1.9k · October 13, 2003

I have one and a second on the coffee table ready to go tomorrow.

Personally I am aiming to go no higher than ten.

October 13, 2003

I have planted 40 caches with 37 active, 1 temporarily deactivated till deer season is over and two that is archived! The problem I have is not maintaining them but that I have so many ideas that I want to use, I have been giving them to other cachers to try out ! I am going for fifty quality caches!

Darkmoon

"After you've heard two eyewitness accounts of an automobile accident, you begin to worry about history" -Anonymous

October 13, 2003

I have 24 hides not counting 2 archived event caches. I strive for quality, not quantity. Every cache I have hidden so far is still out there.

Here's two prolific hiders:

CCCooperAgency (303)

Ron Streeter (193)

Johnny

October 13, 2003

I have about 30 caches and 3 Virtuals. I hide 1 or 2 a month from when I started. I hid six in Jan 02.

24.7k · October 13, 2003

43 right now. 41 when two I've been waiting on adopting out actually 'take'. 28 are active.

3.9k · October 13, 2003

I have 18 hidden. I'm thinking I can deal with 30 - 40 caches. The ones that are further away I make sure are in ammo boxes, very well hidden & wrapped in super heavy duty black plastic bags. Try to keep the maintenence to a minimum.

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-

I took the one less traveled by,

And that has made all the difference.

Because now I am Lost.

October 14, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by J&MBella:
I have 18 hidden. I'm thinking I can deal with 30 - 40 caches. The ones that are further away I make sure are in ammo boxes, very well hidden & wrapped in super heavy duty black plastic bags. Try to keep the maintenence to a minimum.

Why do you need to wrap an ammo box in plastic?

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3k · October 14, 2003

19 hidden (0 active, 19 archived)

1.3k · October 14, 2003

I have 36 so far, but CyberJunkie has already 104 !

38.2k · October 14, 2003

quote:
very well hidden & wrapped in super heavy duty black plastic bags.

Ahhhhhh! Please don't say that . Please don't bring this practice to the NY metro area! It's popular in other regions and I was always so happy it wasn't used here.

Few things are more disgusting than sticking your hand in a slimy, water soaked plastic bag to extract the cache. I've never found one yet that wasn't full of holes, so the usefulness is dubious to begin with. And after some rain, water gets inside and just stays there and slimy, nasties start to grow. Yuk!

"You can't make a man by standing a sheep on his hind legs. But by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" - Max Beerbohm

22k · October 14, 2003

Here's a guy with

Traditional Caches 273

Virtual Caches 24

Unknown (Mystery) Caches 9

Multi-caches 1

Event Caches 2

Travel Bug Dog Tags 59

2.3k · October 14, 2003

I have one in the back of my suv ready to be placed -- does that count as a locationless and/or mobile cache until then?

Joel (joefrog)

"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for ye are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!"

1.3k · October 14, 2003

5 hidden (4 active, 1 archived)

October 15, 2003

quote:
A guy with Traditional Caches 273 ...

and then you have:

[quote} The problem I have is not maintaining them but that I have so many ideas that I want to use,

Darkmoon

So if someone has placed 200 or 300 then others who have good ideas may feel shut-out.

Is there a way to look at the STATs to see an average - of those who have placed cache's, on average how many have they placed.

The average of all members would skew the number down because of the many who have not placed any.

October 15, 2003

I did some quick analysis (not thorough yet). It looks like the average find-to-hide ratio is about 20-to-1. That's where it is for me too; I've found 110 or so, and hidden 5 (with another in my pack ready to hide). So, if you one of those who has found 100 and not hidden any -- get out there and hide some!

9.4k · October 16, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by joefrog:
I have one in the back of my suv ready to be placed -- does that count as a locationless and/or mobile cache until then?

I've got one of those! I'll find a spot for it eventually...

Took sun from sky, left world in eternal darkness

October 16, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by BeachBuddies:
I did some quick analysis (not thorough yet). It looks like the average find-to-hide ratio is about 20-to-1. That's where it is for me too; I've found 110 or so, and hidden 5. So, if you one of those who has found 100 and not hidden any -- get out there and hide some!

That sounds like a really reasonable guideline. If you have found 10 caches its time to start thinking about hiding your first cache, then by the time you have found 40 your ready to place some high quality caches.

If your in central Iowa please follow these guidelines as we could really use some new Quality caches.

October 16, 2003

Did a quick computation and found that with the local club, the ratio is 52:1 finds:hides. Of course we have 3 members with > 2000 finds and there are already something like 850 caches within 100 miles, so our ratio is going to be slanted toward the finds instead of hides.

As for me... I have 161 finds and 5 hides (soon to be 6). That makes my ratio 32:1 and approaching 27:1. I have not had to archive a cache yet.

October 16, 2003

What a silly question, "ALL" of my caches are "hidden"...

If they were out in plain site, what fun would that be?

You really need to think out your questions for topic heading more carefully...

--majicman

(MY new book is NOW AVAILABLE! Check it out: http://www.mcwj.com )

October 16, 2003

Could anyone explain to me how they could possibly maintain 100, 200 or even 300 caches?

Do the approvers consider this when they keep approving new caches for these prolific hiders?

I have 7 active and one awaiting approval. I can just barly keep up with maintaining those!

Salvelinus

"The trail will be long and full of frustrations. Life is a whole and good and evil must be accepted together"

Ralph Abele

3.9k · October 16, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by BrianSnat:

quote:
very well hidden & wrapped in super heavy duty black plastic bags.

Ahhhhhh! Please don't say that . Please don't bring this practice to the NY metro area! It's popular in other regions and I was always so happy it wasn't used here.

Few things are more disgusting than sticking your hand in a slimy, water soaked plastic bag to extract the cache. I've never found one yet that wasn't full of holes, so the usefulness is dubious to begin with. And after some rain, water gets inside and just stays there and slimy, nasties start to grow. Yuk!

OK. Point taken. Anyone else feel this way? A lot of caches I've found here on the Island are wrapped in plastic bags. That extra protection seem to work well. I guess on an ammo box, which all I use now, it's not really necessery.

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-

I took the one less traveled by,

And that has made all the difference.

Because now I am Lost.

October 16, 2003

I asked a similar question to this back in May. I was concerned about some cachers in the Tampa Bay area who have 200+ finds and no hidden caches. Boy, did I take a beating from all of the know-it-all cachers who post here daily.

I wanted to try to maintain a 5:1 ratio but I'm going to strive for 10:1 or maybe 15:1.

I have 174 finds and 30 hides to date.

There's a cacher from Jacksonvill, Florida who has hidden a ton of caches since he started the hobby/sport/addiction earlier this year. His name? As David Lee Roth once sang, "Ice Cream Man".

3.9k · October 16, 2003

quote:
Why do you need to wrap an ammo box in plastic?

Oops. Didn't see that post. OK. No more no more ammo boxes in plastic bags. See. That proves a great point I had in another thread. It's ok to give constructive criticism to a newbie. Otherwise things won't change. Even if you're a newbie yourself. To get this back on topic my cache hide count is now 20.

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-

I took the one less traveled by,

And that has made all the difference.

Because now I am Lost.

October 16, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Go For The Green:
...a ton of caches since he started the hobby/sport/addiction...

Jeez, after all this time you guys STILL refuse to use my officially agreed to (by me) acronym for this “RASH - Recreation, Activity, Sport, Hobby”!

(see: http://ubbx.Groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5726007311&f=4016058331&m=5626015051)

It is NOT a hobby/sport/addiction/game/recreatoinal activity/outdoor trek/event/etc.

--majicman

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October 16, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by majicman:
What a silly question, "ALL" of my caches are "hidden"...

If they were out in plain site, what fun would that be?

You really need to think out your questions for topic heading more carefully...

LOL - OK, what a pedant... Hidden as opposed to found..... **big cheesy grin goes here**

Only nuts eat squirrels,

Snake

21.9k · October 17, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Salvelinus:
Could anyone explain to me how they could possibly maintain 100, 200 or even 300 caches?

Do the approvers consider this when they keep approving new caches for these prolific hiders?

I have 7 active and one awaiting approval. I can just barly keep up with maintaining those!

Salvelinus

If a geocacher had a demonstrated history of ignoring the caches they'd already placed, then yes, I would bring this up with them if they proposed to hide a new batch. Fortunately I have not had any problems on that score here in Pennsylvania. We have some very prolific hiders here, with dozens and even hundreds of hides, but not a lot of maintenance complaints. When I've brought concerns to the attention of hiders in this category, they've been addressed promptly and cheerfully. I think it is all a question of how much time one can dedicate to the sport. If you have time to maintain 5 caches while still finding however many you'd like to find, then that's your limit. For others it's 50. My personal limit is about maxed out, since I dedicate a lot of time to admin work. There is no policy in place to limit the absolute number of caches that one person can hide.... just the 528 foot proximity rule and the vacation/too big a distance from home rule.

My observation is that more maintenance problems exist (or at least come to my attention) with geocachers who have dropped out of the game/lost interest, but still have caches out in the wild.

Maintenance concerns are important and can be raised directly with the cache owner (always best) or with the area's local or state geocaching organization (if there is one), or with the volunteer admin who covers that area.

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Keystone Approver, Geocaching.com Admin

"Eschewing Entropy and Ensuring Enthalpy in the Groundspeak Forums"

October 17, 2003

I have three in place - with one loaded and ready to go, one in construction phase (the container, that is), and one on the drawing board.

I don't imagine I'll ever have more than a dozen, or so.

"...clear as mud?"

2.1k · October 17, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Keystone Approver:
the vacation/too big a distance from home rule.

I have read a statement in the guidelines that only says no vacation caches(and that is basically all it says), but what about the rest of this rule you stated? What are these rules, so we can all know.

Brian

www.woodsters.com

My Stats

Found: 70

Hidden: 2

21.9k · October 17, 2003

Sorry, Woodsters, but I'm not going to get into that discussion with you in a thread about how many caches an indivdual has hidden. If it's important to you, pull up one of the existing threads on vacation caches, or send me an e-mail. Thanks!

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"Eschewing Entropy and Ensuring Enthalpy in the Groundspeak Forums"

2.1k · October 17, 2003

No problem, I emailed you. But, I thought since you had brought it up in here that it was ok to ask about it. I was also thinking that if there was some rule that the approvers are going by that we don't see, then it would be nice for the others to know it as well.

Brian

www.woodsters.com

My Stats

Found: 70

Hidden: 2

October 17, 2003

One

"I'm not Responsible... just ask my wife, She'll confirm it"

October 17, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by joefrog:
I have one in the back of my suv ready to be placed -- does that count as a locationless and/or mobile cache until then?

Do you leave the doors unlocked, are you going to put a hide a key for us and call it a multi, or should we just break the window and sign the log?

"I'm not Responsible... just ask my wife, She'll confirm it"

October 17, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Go For The Green:
.....I was concerned about some cachers in the Tampa Bay area who have 200+ finds and no hidden caches.....

Ah, so then you see hiding a cache as a sort of payback for the ones you find? Interesting concept.

Do others see it that way?

Only nuts eat squirrels,

Snake

October 17, 2003

Wow! Some of you folks have a large number of caches. I have one virtual (placed before the rules changed, and a good one), two multi-stages, and nine standard caches.

7.2k · October 17, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by TeamX40:
Here's a guy with

Traditional Caches 273

Virtual Caches 24

Unknown (Mystery) Caches 9

Multi-caches 1

Event Caches 2

Travel Bug Dog Tags 59

quote:
Originally posted by Salvelinus:
Could anyone explain to me how they could possibly maintain 100, 200 or even 300 caches?

If you look at the profile for King B you will see that his forum title is "King of cache density". A long time ago I wrote to him with concerns about the quantity and density of his caches. In the email I told him I was concerned that he was becoming the King of cache density. His attention to his caches quickly swayed me to his side. I also notice that cachers like his caches and there were no problems discussed in the MN forums. I have found several of his caches as well so I know his style of hiding. Many of those caches are archived so he can move them and allow an area to not be damaged very much. His caches are usually easy to approve because he knows the guidelines for his area and for the GC.com site and adheres to them both rigidly.

mtn-man... admin brick mason

"approver of all trades" -- per Woodsters Outdoors

How many hidden caches do YOU have?

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