+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 apart from the foreigners, and i mean people that physically leave in a another country where english is not first language, why don't the ones residing in english speaking countries have a spellchecker on their browsers? i often wondered how do those with bad language/grammar skills get by when they need to write an official letter, do they just pay a professional and arm and a leg to write it for them? How ironic. Hopefully they were joking. Link to comment
+dfx Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I will say that it's especially annoying to me with one poster, here, who doesn't add a space after punctuation. But, so far, I can refrain from stressing about it. no space after punctuation huh well thats not so bad bad what about those people who dont use any punctionation at all i always have to cringe when i read a post like that because its so fricken hard to follow even more so when they use many short sentences in a row Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 and puts an apostrophe in front of the word cacher. Of course, most of us use the word Cacher on it's own but it really should have an apostrophe, since the "Geo" is missing from it. Link to comment
+dfx Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 and puts an apostrophe in front of the word cacher. Of course, most of us use the word Cacher on it's own but it really should have an apostrophe, since the "Geo" is missing from it. why? "cache" is a word by itself, so "cacher" by itself is also a word. Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 and puts an apostrophe in front of the word cacher. Of course, most of us use the word Cacher on it's own but it really should have an apostrophe, since the "Geo" is missing from it. why? "cache" is a word by itself, so "cacher" by itself is also a word. I believe it's correct either way. cachers look for caches 'cachers look for 'caches Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I think it's great that some people have such perfection in their lives that they have to find such petty things, such as how other people spell, to stress about. Who's stressed? Link to comment
+bittsen Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I think it's great that some people have such perfection in their lives that they have to find such petty things, such as how other people spell, to stress about. Who's stressed? The OP? Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I think it's great that some people have such perfection in their lives that they have to find such petty things, such as how other people spell, to stress about. Who's stressed? The OP? OIC Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 The real question should be "Why are so many Americans illiterate"? Or, perhaps one could wonder why so many humans, from so many countries across the globe, are illiterate. It's not limited to North America. Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 OK - lots of misspelled words and bad grammar. But you can still understand them. I did. Link to comment
+edscott Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I don't care a bit about what the logs say but the cache page needs to make sense. Of course there are good caches that do have a couple inadvertent typos... The following is from a local puzzle cache.... loved it. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid! Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch sutdy at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh, and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! A SELF-GUIDED WALKING TOUR OF WEST READING Prak at the ptsoed corodaniets and scaerh uintl you see a graet wlal. Wlak to the wlal but not itno it (ulnses yu’roe hugrny… tehy hvae graet food). Satndnig udner the wlal, look for a pnik sohe. Wlak udner the sohe and cotniune to the nxet conrer wehre you wlil see a cmoomn tag. At taht conrer saecrh utnil you see trhee sotp snigs in a row and fololw the steret in taht dricetoin. At the scenod sotp sgin, scaerh for the red huose up the hlil and tehn wlak to the sotp sgin nxet to the red huose. As you get colse to the conrer, the gragaes wlil cuont dwon to let you konw taht yu’roe amlsot tehre. Form tehre, fololw the silevr rialnig to the tarfifc lihgt. You wlil see a stnoe wlal taht mraks the crorcet conrer. Trun at the lgiht and wlak aawy form the palyrogund wihle you cotniune to keep the stnoe wlal wtihin amrs raech. Cotniune utnil you see a geren sgin wtih red and bule clooerd wrods nxet to a gasls stiarcsae. Saerch unitl you see the no pakrnig sgins taht wlil tkae you psat an arcehd wodoen gtae. Fololw tihs steret so taht as you wlak you can look dwon and see a shfufelbaord cuort on yuor lfet. Cotniune utnil you see the rmoan colck form the conrer and tehn trun and wlak so taht tmie is beihnd you. Keep fololwnig the sdiewlak unitl it truns to brciks agian. Jsut beofre you setp on the frist old brcik, sotp and look for a whtie mteal spkied fnece and wlak dwon the steret psat it. You wlil cotniune psat a sgin wtih puzlze peiecs and a stnoe bulidnig taht was biult in 1929. Cotniune giong starihgt jsut psat the amptihhaeter biult for bsuhes. At taht conrer you wlil trun and wlak psat the red cadrianl pehcred naer the lgiht and tehn cotniune utnil you can’t go starihgt anmyore. Satnd nxet to the sgin wtih a bule eye on it and look btoh wyas. Wlak aawy form the two ornage ploes and fololw the sdiewlak for aobut 100 yrads. Psat the frie hyadrnt you wlil fnid the cahce naer the tere taht is gudared by trhee rcoks. Link to comment
Andronicus Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 apart from the foreigners, and i mean people that physically leave in a another country where english is not first language, why don't the ones residing in english speaking countries have a spellchecker on their browsers? i often wondered how do those with bad language/grammar skills get by when they need to write an official letter, do they just pay a professional and arm and a leg to write it for them? At work, we can't install plugins. In order to spell check, I would have to copy it to MS word, then spell check, then copy it back. Anyway, I almost never do that. PS, for my highschool English, and Social Studies final exams, I used a computer that had spell check. I am quite sure that I would have failed otherwise. Link to comment
+GunnerMac Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 My primary language is english. When I goto Quebec (which is 15mins away) sometimes I feel compelled to try and write in French. I bet someone has made a french thread about my poor grammar. I hope they understand my small gesture as much as I understand theirs when they try english in my cache logs. Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I don't care a bit about what the logs say but the cache page needs to make sense. Of course there are good caches that do have a couple inadvertent typos... The following is from a local puzzle cache.... loved it. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid! Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch sutdy at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. That is how far I got. Once I realized it was more than a paragraph I gave up. It hurts my eyes. This would be the first cache on my ignore list. Link to comment
+brslk Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Not everyone is a cunning linguist. Link to comment
+Jackalgirl Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Is this a sport for the ignorant? I don't know. LOL! Well played, sir, well played. Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Not everyone is a cunning linguist. Must... resist... getting... banned... Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Not everyone is a cunning linguist. Must... resist... getting... banned... Link to comment
Motorcycle_Mama Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Must... resist... getting... banned... It's all fun and games .... until someone gets banned ..... Thanks for resisting. Link to comment
+thedeadpirate Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 i dont knows why everybody is allways gettin bent out of shape over spelling and gramar.as long as i can read wut someone are tryin to say,then i don't worries bout it. Link to comment
+edscott Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 agree.. but too often folks say what they don't really mean to say. In a log it doesn't really matter much, but when it is on the cache page itself it can make a difference. Link to comment
knowschad Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 What sort of person would title a thread in lower-case, anyway? Link to comment
+Sioneva Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Not everyone is a cunning linguist. Must... resist... getting... banned... Don't worry... I got a band for you. or did you mean this kind? Link to comment
+dfx Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 What sort of person would title a thread in lower-case, anyway? as a matter of fact, i would, and proudly so! Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Interesting stats on literacy in America. A First Look at the Literacy of America’s Adults in the 21st Century. http://nces.ed.gov/NAAL/PDF/2006470.pdf Link to comment
+thedeadpirate Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I don't know about anyone else, but not being able to edit my posts leads to some of my slip ups. I generally try to proofread my posts prior to hitting submit. However, if a topic is moving really fast I will skip that step. Additionally, I just miss things from time to time. If the error isn't that bad and I feel having the "message edited" at the bottom of my post or cache log will look worse, then I just let those errors slide. If I really screw up on a cache log (especially if I posted the wrong log for a particular cache) then I will archive that log and post a new one. If it's not a major screw up but enough to distract from the content, then I will edit the post and live with message at the bottom announcing to the world that I didn't preview before submitting. Link to comment
nitro71 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Stupid is as stupid does. If you don't want to appear ignorant then YOU should take it upon yourself to learn basic grammar and spelling. Nobody is perfect but some of the kids now days are just pathetic. English as a second language is NOT a excuse if you are a US citizen. Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Stupid is as stupid does. If you don't want to appear ignorant then YOU should take it upon yourself to learn basic grammar and spelling. Nobody is perfect but some of the kids now days are just pathetic. English as a second language is NOT a excuse if you are a US citizen. Oh, the irony. Link to comment
+narcissa Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Stupid is as stupid does. If you don't want to appear ignorant then YOU should take it upon yourself to learn basic grammar and spelling. Nobody is perfect but some of the kids now days are just pathetic. English as a second language is NOT a excuse if you are a US citizen. Those darn foreign kids. Link to comment
+Peacepype Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 thisthreadiskindafunnytoreadthroughsomepeoplegetbentoutofshapeattheoddestthings Link to comment
+humboldt flier Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Ah jist kaint unna stand whut all dee fus iz all aboot. Da why's of pronowwnz bother me I has alwheeze benn anti nownz. And adverbs heck I only wanted one verb and had know in-tent-shun of adding one more so why add-a-verb. Hmmmmmm, I have the feeling some folks could care less about the rules or conventions of language, compounded by the cutting of corners involved in texting. FWIW back in the day when I was hiring, those conventions mattered and indeed some folks went to the bottom of the pile. However, given that this activity attracts and holds a wide range of folks the purists and semi purists could perhaps just loosen our shoelaces a bit. Toward the end of the trail some things become less important. Geo Hugggggzzzzzzzzzzz to all Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Ah jist kaint unna stand whut all dee fus iz all aboot. Da why's of pronowwnz bother me I has alwheeze benn anti nownz. And adverbs heck I only wanted one verb and had know in-tent-shun of adding one more so why add-a-verb. Hmmmmmm, I have the feeling some folks could care less about the rules or conventions of language, compounded by the cutting of corners involved in texting. FWIW back in the day when I was hiring, those conventions mattered and indeed some folks went to the bottom of the pile. However, given that this activity attracts and holds a wide range of folks the purists and semi purists could perhaps just loosen our shoelaces a bit. Toward the end of the trail some things become less important. Geo Hugggggzzzzzzzzzzz to all These people aren't writing the shut down instructions for Three Mile Island. They are playing a game. So yes, I think we can cut 'em some slack. Link to comment
+thedeadpirate Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I'll admit that I do get bent out of shape when I see grammatical and spelling errors in professionally published media such as newspapers and commercial websites. I'm a bit more forgiving of forum and chat posts. The fluidity of the media carries with it the possibility of slip ups. What I find most interesting is how posts complaining about grammatical errors often contain grammatical and spelling errors within. Link to comment
+GeoGeeBee Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 (edited) Stupid is as stupid does. If you don't want to appear ignorant then YOU should take it upon yourself to learn basic grammar and spelling. Nobody is perfect but some of the kids now days are just pathetic. English as a second language is NOT a excuse if you are a US citizen. Oh, the irony. Isn't there some kind of "law" that says any spelling/grammar flame will include at least one spelling/grammar error? edited to add: Found it! It is, of course, Muphry's Law. Edited April 15, 2010 by GeoGeeBee Link to comment
+humboldt flier Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Stupid is as stupid does. If you don't want to appear ignorant then YOU should take it upon yourself to learn basic grammar and spelling. Nobody is perfect but some of the kids now days are just pathetic. English as a second language is NOT a excuse if you are a US citizen. Oh, the irony. Isn't there some kind of "law" that says any spelling/grammar flame will include at least one spelling/grammar error? edited to add: Found it! It is, of course, Muphry's Law. Certainly seems to work tha way. Tee, Hee, Hee Link to comment
+edscott Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Stupid is as stupid does. If you don't want to appear ignorant then YOU should take it upon yourself to learn basic grammar and spelling. Nobody is perfect but some of the kids now days are just pathetic. English as a second language is NOT a excuse if you are a US citizen. Oh, the irony. Isn't there some kind of "law" that says any spelling/grammar flame will include at least one spelling/grammar error? edited to add: Found it! It is, of course, Muphry's Law. Which one did you find? Do I get two points for finding the second one? Link to comment
+humboldt flier Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 (edited) Could not help myself " Mikey did it " Simply had to leave mine in ... so pertinent and within context. Edited April 15, 2010 by humboldt flier Link to comment
Btownjenn Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I used to be the grammar police! Now, I mostly keep it to myself. Throughout my career, I've worked with people who are, technically, smarter than the average human, including myself. However, they almost universally have poor spelling/grammar skills. So, I've learned to pay more attention to the story rather than the poor delivery. It's helped me a lot! I also agree with other responses on here. There are a number of reasons why the grammar and spelling may be poor, not the least of which is English may be their second language. Happy hunting! Link to comment
Chumpo Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Stupid is as stupid does. If you don't want to appear ignorant then YOU should take it upon yourself to learn basic grammar and spelling. Nobody is perfect but some of the kids now days are just pathetic. English as a second language is NOT a excuse if you are a US citizen. Oh, the irony. Isn't there some kind of "law" that says any spelling/grammar flame will include at least one spelling/grammar error? edited to add: Found it! It is, of course, Muphry's Law. On Fark.com we call this phenomenon "rotskying" Link to comment
+Jeep_Dog Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Seems to me the only literacy required is to read coordinates. Naturally, if one is creating a cache, the descirption page would require one typing in correct coordinates. Does anything else really matter? Link to comment
+Cardinal Red Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 SpellCheck Or: ieSpell - A Spell Checker for Internet Explorer Link to comment
AZcachemeister Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 apart from the foreigners, and i mean people that physically leave in a another country where english is not first language, why don't the ones residing in english speaking countries have a spellchecker on their browsers? i often wondered how do those with bad language/grammar skills get by when they need to write an official letter, do they just pay a professional and arm and a leg to write it for them? At work, we can't install plugins. In order to spell check, I would have to copy it to MS word, then spell check, then copy it back. Anyway, I almost never do that. PS, for my highschool English, and Social Studies final exams, I used a computer that had spell check. I am quite sure that I would have failed otherwise. Does your boss know you are writing up cache pages and logging finds while 'at work'? Link to comment
+popokiiti Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 I live in Canada and had to relearn a lot of the spelling (British) that I grew up with. Certain phrases/words too! They can mean something totally different, sometimes embarrassingly so... Some of it I won't let go of - it is part of who I am. My biggest problem is my typing, so I have to preview everything...but glaring errors still sneak by! Link to comment
+fishgeek Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Grammatically, this is one of the better forums that I read. Most of the other ones actually make me feel that I've gotten dumber by the time I'm done reading a few pages. I used to be the grammar police! Now, I mostly keep it to myself. Throughout my career, I've worked with people who are, technically, smarter than the average human, including myself. However, they almost universally have poor spelling/grammar skills. So, I've learned to pay more attention to the story rather than the poor delivery. It's helped me a lot! I also agree with other responses on here. There are a number of reasons why the grammar and spelling may be poor, not the least of which is English may be their second language. Happy hunting! Link to comment
DSriders Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 This has been a very stimulating conversation with the original poster. Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 This has been a very stimulating conversation with the original poster. Funny how that works, eh? Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 This has been a very stimulating conversation with the original poster. Funny how that works, eh? Wut ur ewe saing? This wus a drive by litersee rant? Link to comment
+Edge of the Earth Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 The English language drives me nuts! If words were spelled as they sound I could not immajin. justa thot I'm shure! Link to comment
+Edge of the Earth Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 The English language drives me nuts! If words were spelled as they sound I could not immajin. justa thot I'm shure! Thank God for all those less smart than me or I wouldn't be above average! Link to comment
+Jackalgirl Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 The English language drives me nuts! If words were spelled as they sound I could not immajin. justa thot I'm shure! English is Tough Stuff! Link to comment
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