Capture The Flag W/ Travel Bugs

1.7k · March 25, 2005

You are right, I forgot for a minute that you were dealing with Long Islanders. The deal, the deal within the deal, the deal during the deal and the deal after the deal. Will the rule book be downloadable in PDF format ?

8.1k · March 25, 2005

Okay, here are the rules:

1. no person can have both flags at the same time

2. If you grab and move a flag you cannot move any others for 24 hours

(this prevents people virtually logging flags)

= 3 point penalty

3. If you grab a flag please drop it off in a cache within 48 hours

1 point penalty for each day after the 48 hours (only applies to team members)

4. Please place the flag in a cache that has a terrain rating of less than 4

10 point penalty for being a clever jacka**

Points:

A team is awarded one point for every time a team member grabs opponents flag.

A team is awarded two points every time opponents flag goes into one of their caches.

A team is awarded one point each time their flag goes into their own cache.

A team loses a point for each day their flag leaves the playing field (outside NJ and LI)

Long Island is Blue

New Jersey is Red

These rules are more like guidelines and are subject to change at any time.

Viewer discretion is advised. Public humilliation of adults. Not appropriate for children under 12.

March 25, 2005

Are there any rules as to the ratings of the cache a flag can be placed in? If they're placed in 5-5's this could be a very slow moving game. Long Island doesn't have caches like Hydrodynamic

Dont worry Pete I have an idea

38.2k · March 26, 2005

<<<<<<<<< Personal attack and profanity deleted >>>>>>>>>>

Edited March 26, 2005 by briansnat

March 26, 2005

You are right, I forgot for a minute that you were dealing with Long Islanders. The deal, the deal within the deal, the deal during the deal and the deal after the deal. Will the rule book be downloadable in PDF format ?

No need fro PDF. Here is the whole set!

38.2k · March 26, 2005

OK NJ is ready...sort of. I can't find the activation code for the TB and have an e-mail into Groundspeak to see if I can get a new one. I'm calling the bug "Capture The Flag - NJ" unless someone has a better idea.

I have a laminated card with the rules attached. I can send JMB the Word doc if he has a laminator available, or I can just laminate another card and send it to him.

Edited March 26, 2005 by briansnat

8.1k · March 26, 2005

Great Brian!

"Capture The Flag - NJ" unless

How about "Lawn Iland SUX!!!"

38.2k · March 26, 2005

New Jersey is ready.

3.9k · March 28, 2005

Strong Island is ready

8.1k · March 28, 2005

How about launching both bugs on April Fool's day? :rolleyes:

3.8k · March 28, 2005

got both on my watchlist, this should be interesting. :rolleyes:

38.2k · March 28, 2005

I already see an inherent unfairness in this game. I can see why Long Islanders would want to come to NJ to see our wonderful state and bag our excellent caches. But why would anyone from NJ want to go to Long Island, other than to visit in-laws

March 28, 2005

The NJ bug states:

"Please do not take this bug out of either NJ or Long Island"

But the LI bug has no similar prohibition.

The rules (for both bugs) state:

"A team loses a point for each day their flag leaves the playing field (outside NJ and LI)"

Obviously the rules contemplate that the bugs may wander outside NJ and LI so why the inconsistemcy in the Jersey bug's description?

Also who are the "team members" - you guys have rosters?

10.1k · March 28, 2005

I already see an inherent unfairness in this game. I can see why Long Islanders would want to come to NJ to see our wonderful state and bag our excellent caches. But why would anyone from NJ want to go to Long Island, other than to visit in-laws

I rather enjoyed geocaching Muttontown Preserve. But Long Island does seem to seriously deficient in things like hills. And rocks.

8.1k · March 28, 2005

The NJ bug states:

"Please do not take this bug out of either NJ or Long Island"

But the LI bug has no similar prohibition.

The rules (for both bugs) state:

"A team loses a point for each day their flag leaves the playing field (outside NJ and LI)"

Obviously the rules contemplate that the bugs may wander outside NJ and LI so why the inconsistemcy in the Jersey bug's description?

Also who are the "team members" - you guys have rosters?

Hey, we would like to try and keep the bugs within the field of play, but if a bug happens to leave we can't stop that.

No teams, the 'game' is open to anyone just like every other event.

edit: as Brian already pointed out that WE (NJ) already have unfairness since we have to travel to LI to get their flag. so we need all the help we can get! :rolleyes:

Edited March 28, 2005 by avroair

3.9k · March 28, 2005

I already see an inherent unfairness in this game. I can see why Long Islanders would want to come to NJ to see our wonderful state and bag our excellent caches. But why would anyone from NJ want to go to Long Island, other than to visit in-laws

That's it. It's on b!tche$

The ONLY good thing about NJ are the caches. Unless of course you happen to enjoy landfills, refineries and a that ever lingering stench.

mmm....The smell of victory in the air.

8.1k · March 28, 2005

Can anyone spot the flag? Let alone any caches?

March 28, 2005

Ok, Ok fellas...in your corners!

So when does the game begin?

Seems NJ has 18 watchers and LI has 16 when I just added them to my list.

Hmmm, does this mean LI is already starting out at a disadvantage with fewer players? Nah, just watch those NJ cachers get tied up on the LIE trying to rescue their flag. :rolleyes: Traffic may work in LI's favor here.

8.1k · March 28, 2005

Wow! This must be big, JMBella has disconnected his cellphone! (or at least this NNJ cacher can't get thru!!!)

:rolleyes:

3.9k · March 28, 2005

Peace talks are off. I blocked all calls from New Jersey during this time of conflict.

:rolleyes: I got a new cell phone number. I'll email it to you.

March 28, 2005

Joe, You told me you changed it because the Jersey people call you way too often. I think it would be a mistake as this may happen again.

Avroair will tell two friends, and those friends will tell two friends and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on......

I hope you have the Jersey calling plan. All calls to and from NJ are free. :rolleyes:

March 28, 2005

In any case, when do we rock and roll?

Dave

3.9k · March 28, 2005

April 1st. Midnight.

March 29, 2005

Was a website ever made as mentioned earlier in the thread? Also, how long will the game last?

GO NEW JERSEY! :rolleyes:

March 29, 2005

The rules mention that the terrain rating for the cache the bugs are placed in must be less than 4 star, what about the difficulty rating? :rolleyes:

Edited March 29, 2005 by trowel32

3.9k · March 29, 2005

The rules mention that the terrain rating for the cache the bugs are placed in must be less than 4 star, what about the difficulty rating?

Same. 4/4 max.

March 29, 2005

I'm not seeing any mention of a 10-mile-per-move limit in the rules. Is that restriction still on?

...and if not, can we place side bets on who'll be the first person to do the Montauk-Cape May trip in one run? :laughing:

8.1k · March 29, 2005

The rules mention that the terrain rating for the cache the bugs are placed in must be less than 4 star, what about the difficulty rating?

Same. 4/4 max.

Yeah cause a 5/5 always seems to involve rowing. :laughing:

I guess the game can last for 4 quarters - 1 month for each quarter so a total of 4 months... Then we start over with LI vs NJ II!

8.1k · March 29, 2005

:laughing: :rolleyes:

Ladies and Gentlemen

Boys and Girls

WELCOME TO THE MAIN EVENT!!!!

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!

In the red corner representing 8,638 million people: NUUUUUUWWW JOISEY!!!

And In the blue corner representing 2.65 million people: Laaawwwwwwnnnnn Iland!!!

Now for the cointoss... Heads NNJ wins, Tails LI loses...

And it's Heads...

NNJ wins!!! And elects to stay in New Jersey...

Kickoff is midnight on Thursday... April Fools day.

<_< :unsure:

Edited March 29, 2005 by avroair

38.2k · March 29, 2005

I guess the game can last for 4 quarters - 1 month for each quarter so a total of 4 months... Then we start over with LI vs NJ

How 'bout we go to Labor Day?

38.2k · March 29, 2005

As Tom Waits almost wrote:

I got no time for the corner boys

Down in the street making all that noise

Or the girls out on the avenue

`Cause tonight I wanna be with you

Tonight I'm gonna take that ride

Across the river to the Long Island side

Take my baby to the carnival

And I'll take her on all the rides

`Cause out the Hamptons everything's all right

You and your baby on a Saturday night

You know all my dreams come true

When I'm walking down the street with you

Sha la la la la la la

Sha la la la la la la la la

Sha la la la la la la

Sha la la la I'm in love with a Long Island girl

You know she thrills me with all her charms

When I'm wrapped up in my baby's arms

My little girl gives me everything

I know that some day she'll wear my ring

So don't bother me man I ain't got no time

I'm on my way to see that girl of mine

`Cause nothing matters in this whole wide world

When you're in love with a Long Island girl

Sha la la la...

I see you on the street and you look so tired

I know that job you got leaves you so uninspired

When I come by to take you out to eat

You're lyin' all dressed up on the bed baby fast asleep

Go in the bathroom and put your makeup on

We're gonna take that little brat of yours and drop her off at your mom's

I know a place where the dancing's free

Now baby won't you come with me

`Cause out the Hamptons everything's all right

You and your baby on a Saturday night

Nothing matters in this whole wide world

When you're in love with a Long Island girl

Doesn't quite work, does it?

Edited March 29, 2005 by briansnat

8.1k · March 29, 2005

Ladies and Gentlemen

Boys and Girls

WELCOME TO THE MAIN EVENT!!!!

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!

In the red corner representing 8,638 million people: NUUUUUUWWW JOISEY!!!

And In the blue corner representing 2.65 million people: Laaawwwwwwnnnnn Iland!!!

Now for the cointoss... Heads NNJ wins, Tails LI loses...

And it's Heads...

NNJ wins!!! And elects to stay in New Jersey...

Kickoff is midnight on Thursday... April Fools day.

To Labor Day is good.

8.1k · March 29, 2005

The rules mention that the terrain rating for the cache the bugs are placed in must be less than 4 star, what about the difficulty rating?

Same. 4/4 max.

Yeah cause a 5/5 always seems to involve rowing.

I guess the game can last for 4 quarters - 1 month for each quarter so a total of 4 months... Then we start over with LI vs NJ II!

Labor day is almost 6 months --- you think the flags will last THAT long!!!

(all sewers lead to the ocean right?)

March 29, 2005

Thursday night at midnight. I got it. I remember a mention of specific caches as well as a jab at Manhattan. Which and where will they be?

38.2k · March 29, 2005

CTF-NJ will be released in appropriate cache in NJ. One that will be a bit of a challange to the LI flatlanders, but within the terrain paramaters.

March 29, 2005

Baby this Iland rips the bones off your back

Its a Death Trap

Its a suicide rap

We gotta get out while we're young

Cause Tramps like us

baby we were born to RUN!

Spoken by countless millions of motorists as they sit in the Parking lot known as the LIE

March 29, 2005

As Tom Waits almost wrote:

I got no time for the corner boys

Down in the street making all that noise...

blahblahblah...Long Island side...

shalalalala...Long Island girl...

shalalablahblahblah...Long Island girl...

etcetera, etcetera

Following that theme, I tried it on the following lyric penned by some obscure guitar plucker from Asbury Park:

My tires were slashed and I almost crashed but the Lord had mercy

My machine she's a dud, I'm stuck in the mud somewhere in the swamps of Long Island.

You're right. It just doesn't sound right.

March 30, 2005

Do you guys have a way to tell what state the cachers are from? On my website (www.geocities.com/funksb2002) there is a guestmap. You can place a pin there telling your location if you are a geocacher. It may be of help to you, use it if you would like.

3.9k · March 30, 2005

CTF-NJ will be released in appropriate cache in NJ. One that will be a bit of a challange to the LI flatlanders, but within the terrain paramaters.

Likewise, CTF-LI will be hidden in a cache that is moderately challenging. However, to get to you will have to make all left hand turns thus confusing anyone from NJ.

March 30, 2005

and as Billy Joel almost wrote:

"They sent a carrier out from Norfolk-

And picked the Mets fans up for free.

They said that Queens could stay,

They blew the Bronx away-

and sank Manhattan out at sea"

8.1k · March 30, 2005

Someone has raised a question about the 10 mile rule (a cacher can only move a flag less than 10 miles)...

Do we want to keep this rule or discard it?

It was meant to be so the first people don't grab the flags and take them to Montauk and Cape May.

March 30, 2005

I think the rule should be discarded. Someone in the New England forum brought this up according to their own game. Imagine if someone has found all the caches within ten miles of the area where the flag was found. A 50 mile radius might be better.

3k · March 30, 2005

I think the rule should be discarded. Someone in the New England forum brought this up according to their own game. Imagine if someone has found all the caches within ten miles of the area where the flag was found. A 50 mile radius might be better.

Yes - we're trying to figure out how to adopt this game for New England, and we aren't sure how the mileage restriction should work, or even if there should be one.

I think we are going to end up have much more territory to cover up here, but I also think we're going to end up using more than 2 bugs - perhaps as many as 10.

We won't get anything going as soon as your game, so we'll have a chance to see how your game is going, and then make adjustments accordingly. :laughing:

1.2k · March 30, 2005

I already see an inherent unfairness in this game. I can see why Long Islanders would want to come to NJ to see our wonderful state and bag our excellent caches. But why would anyone from NJ want to go to Long Island, other than to visit in-laws

Seriously.

March 30, 2005

CTF-NJ will be released in appropriate cache in NJ. One that will be a bit of a challange to the LI flatlanders, but within the terrain paramaters.

Likewise, CTF-LI will be hidden in a cache that is moderately challenging. However, to get to you will have to make all left hand turns thus confusing anyone from NJ.

LMFAO!! That was a good one.

38.2k · March 30, 2005

Someone has raised a question about the 10 mile rule (a cacher can only move a flag less than 10 miles)...

Do we want to keep this rule or discard it?

It was meant to be so the first people don't grab the flags and take them to Montauk and Cape May.

Don't make me have to change the laminated card :laughing: .

Maybe 20 miles?

3.9k · March 30, 2005

Why don't we just split the diff and make it 15.

10 miles it is.

Edited March 30, 2005 by JMBella

March 30, 2005

Why don't we just split the diff and make it 15.

10 miles it is.

So much for my airplane idea! I know im jumping in kinda late but has the mountain vs no mountains issue been brought up?How about some altitude restrictions?

1.7k · March 30, 2005

I think they said not more than 1805 feet above sea level.

March 30, 2005

I have two questions...

Can the bugs be placed in members only caches?

With the 10 mile limit (just making sure I understand) if a bug is, say, 80 miles from the border, it must take a route through at least 8 caches before it can even get near the other side? Meaning if the LI bug is 80 miles beoynd the border in NJ, it'll take at least 8 drops in caches before it can get back home again? And the same person cannot touch that flag more than once in a 24 hour period?

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