+tnfishdaddy Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 I am working on a sig card and was going to put my home coordinates on it but don't know how to put the degree symbol on it. Help. Quote Link to comment
+Team Perrito Blanco Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 (edited) Hold down the ALT key and type 0176 on the KEYPAD. ° Edited December 14, 2004 by Team Perrito Blanco Quote Link to comment
DavidSweet Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 There are three quickie ways: 1. Just copy this: ° to you clipboard and paste it in your document 2. Hold down the ALT key and type 0176 on the number pad (assuming you're using windows), the Degree sign should appear in your document. 3. Find the Character Map tool. Mine is in Start\Programs\System Tools. Copy and Paste as in #1 Good Luck. Quote Link to comment
+Jamie Z Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 As a fairly new cacher, you'd do well to read Markwell's Geocaching FAQ where he answers, among many others, the degree symbol question. Heck, even experienced cachers should read it. Jamie Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Huh, I use ALT + 248. I was ripping my hair out recently trying to do it on my laptop though. It does not have the numbers keypad. Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Huh, I use ALT + 248. I was ripping my hair out recently trying to do it on my laptop though. It does not have the numbers keypad. No kidding. on my laptop, it's Fn + numberpad then ALT + 0178 (or 0248) then Fn + numberpad again. Quite a drag Quote Link to comment
+PDOP's Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Huh, I use ALT + 248. Alt+186 works too Quote Link to comment
+Wacka Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 On a Mac- much easier (option+K). Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Huh, I use ALT + 248. I was ripping my hair out recently trying to do it on my laptop though. It does not have the numbers keypad. So, Criminal, did you ever get it to work? We also have a laptop that does not have the keypad. Shirley~ Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Huh, I use ALT + 248. I was ripping my hair out recently trying to do it on my laptop though. It does not have the numbers keypad. So, Criminal, did you ever get it to work? We also have a laptop that does not have the keypad. Shirley~ Yes, I have to hold down the Fn key the Alt key, and press K U and then 8. The numbers pad is on the letters in blue. Always learning... Quote Link to comment
+Birdsong-n-Bud Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Wow...I'm reading all these ways to do the degree sign, and I've always done it differently: Hold down the ALT key and then hit 1447 on the numbers pad (easy for me to remember, as they're all on the left of the numbers pad and the 4 is a double-beef sandwich in the middle). Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Thanks, it works on our laptop also. Quote Link to comment
+Bob Blaylock Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 On a Mac- much easier (option+K). Hmmm… I've been using Shift-Option-8. It's a different character. I wonder which one is correct. Option–K: ? Shift–Option–8: ° Option–K & Shift–Option–8 side-by-side: ?° Quote Link to comment
+Bob Blaylock Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Option–K displayed correctly while I was editing and previewing, but got turned into a question mark when I submitted the post, while Shift–Option–8 posted correctly. Option–K was a smaller circle, positioned higher, than Shift–Option–8. As far as posting to this forum goes, therefore, I have to say that Shift–Option–8 is clearly the one to use. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 OK, how do we get the small trademark TM symbok? Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Huh, I use ALT + 248. Alt+186 works too That's actually not a degree symbol. It's called the masculine ordinal indicator. In most fonts, it's slightly bigger. In some fonts, you may not be able to notice the difference. ° = alt-176 º = alt-186 Quote Link to comment
Spike440 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 With webtv it's just Alt+0. °°°°°° Alt+b gives me ™ Too bad webtv sucks for most everything else. Quote Link to comment
+Hard Oiler Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 OK, how do we get the small trademark TM symbok? ALT 0153 gives you ™ Quote Link to comment
+Team Perrito Blanco Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 In case anyone was wondering: ALT + 0169=© ALT + 0177=± ALT + 0188=¼ ALT + 0189=½ ALT + 0190=¾ ALT + 0241=ñ Quote Link to comment
HWyatt Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Huh, I use ALT + 248. I was ripping my hair out recently trying to do it on my laptop though. It does not have the numbers keypad. No kidding. on my laptop, it's Fn + numberpad then ALT + 0178 (or 0248) then Fn + numberpad again. Quite a drag On a Mac it is: alt, shift, 8 ° Very easy. Yet another reason to go Mac. HWyatt Quote Link to comment
+Latitude 26 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Jeez, I wonder how complicated it is on a PC to type a tilde character over the letter n, as in mañana? LOL... Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 On a Mac- much easier (option+K). Hmmm… I've been using Shift-Option-8. It's a different character. I wonder which one is correct. Option–K: ? Shift–Option–8: ° Option–K & Shift–Option–8 side-by-side: ?° I don't have an "option" key Quote Link to comment
+DavidMac Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 (edited) Option–K displayed correctly while I was editing and previewing, but got turned into a question mark when I submitted the post, while Shift–Option–8 posted correctly. Option–K was a smaller circle, positioned higher, than Shift–Option–8. As far as posting to this forum goes, therefore, I have to say that Shift–Option–8 is clearly the one to use. I'd say option-shift-8 is the correct one on Mac- it coresponds to A1 in hexidecimal, or character #161, while option-K is hexidecimal FB, or #251. If I remember correctly, only characters corresponding to #128 or below are supposed to be standard between operating systems (the letters a-z correspond to decimal #97-122, for example), while anything higher is operating system- or font- specific. As an example, typing option-shift-K gives you the Apple logo, and I don't imagine this symbol would appear in fonts in Windows... However, I think a number of symbols at the lower end of the range of Hex 81-FF are still identical between systems, such as the ° symbol. I'd have to mess around with Windows to say for sure, though, since I only have a mac at my disposal right now. Looking at the characters nearby, Hex A2 and A3 are curreny symbols, which I think would be standard, while FC-FF are special symbols such as "smart quotes", so it is more likely that the symbol that corresponds to option-K is mac-specific and should be avoided on the web. I've always thought that, in Windows, the reason behind typing alt and 0xxx is that you are entering the decimal value for the character (if so, I would guess that typing alt-0048 = the number 1, alt-0097 = a, alt-0098 = b and so on.), while the Mac OS assigns key sequences to them. In older versions of the mac os, the program Key Caps would give you a virtual map of the keyboard, and holding down a modifier key (command, control, shift, etc) would give you a map of what modifier and key combination corresponded to each symbol. Sorry if that was much more technical and confusing than it should have been edit: ha, apparently I had a typo that was censored as a dirty word. Better watch my spelling Edited December 15, 2004 by DavidMac Quote Link to comment
+Bob Blaylock Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Option–K displayed correctly while I was editing and previewing, but got turned into a question mark when I submitted the post, while Shift–Option–8 posted correctly. Option–K was a smaller circle, positioned higher, than Shift–Option–8. As far as posting to this forum goes, therefore, I have to say that Shift–Option–8 is clearly the one to use. I'd say option-shift-8 is the correct one on Mac- it coresponds to A1 in hexidecimal, or character #161, while option-K is hexidecimal FB, or #251. If I remember correctly, only characters corresponding to #128 or below are supposed to be standard between operating systems (the letters a-z correspond to decimal #97-122, for example), while anything higher is operating system- or font- specific. As an example, typing option-shift-K gives you the Apple logo, and I don't imagine this symbol would appear in fonts in Windows... However, I think a number of symbols at the lower end of the range of Hex 81-FF are still identical between systems, such as the ° symbol. I don't think that's true. I'm fairly sure than the Macintosh and classic PC character sets do not have any matching characters above 127. Where we ever get into common ground beyond the basic ASCII standard is Unicode, which is a 16-bit international character set that is now widely-used. Any decent browser will try, on posting a PC- or Mac-specific character, to translate it first to the corresponding Unicode character. When I post a degree symbol from my Macintosh, it is represented on my end as a particular number that corresponds to its placement in the Macintosh character set. But it is sent and stored on Groundspeak's servers in Unicode, and when viewed on a PC, may be translated first back to an entirely different number that represents it in the PC's character set. I've always thought that, in Windows, the reason behind typing alt and 0xxx is that you are entering the decimal value for the character (if so, I would guess that typing alt-0048 = the number 1, alt-0097 = a, alt-0098 = b and so on.)… Close. When you do Alt-nnn, where nnn is a 1-, 2-, or 3-digit number, you're entering the PC character set value, which would be the same as standard ASCII if nnn is <128. When you enter 4 or more digits, you're generating a Unicode character; this only works, of course, under any version of Windows which is new enough to support Unicode. …while the Mac OS assigns key sequences to them. In older versions of the mac os, the program Key Caps would give you a virtual map of the keyboard, and holding down a modifier key (command, control, shift, etc) would give you a map of what modifier and key combination corresponded to each symbol. Key Caps is still here under MacOS X 10.2.8. Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Huh, I use ALT + 248. Alt+186 works too That's actually not a degree symbol. It's called the masculine ordinal indicator. In most fonts, it's slightly bigger. In some fonts, you may not be able to notice the difference. ° = alt-176 º = alt-186 This is true. Not to mention some of these other combinations might be giving different symbols on the other end. What you see with your font on your end might be different in the font the other guy is using. For a PC, I think it's safe to always use ALT-0176 Don't forget the zero in front, some PCs need it. On my machine ALT-176 just gives me an underscore. (I work with lots of fonts every day.) Quote Link to comment
+DavidMac Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 (edited) I don't think that's true. I'm fairly sure than the Macintosh and classic PC character sets do not have any matching characters above 127. Where we ever get into common ground beyond the basic ASCII standard is Unicode, which is a 16-bit international character set that is now widely-used. Any decent browser will try, on posting a PC- or Mac-specific character, to translate it first to the corresponding Unicode character. When I post a degree symbol from my Macintosh, it is represented on my end as a particular number that corresponds to its placement in the Macintosh character set. But it is sent and stored on Groundspeak's servers in Unicode, and when viewed on a PC, may be translated first back to an entirely different number that represents it in the PC's character set. I've always thought that, in Windows, the reason behind typing alt and 0xxx is that you are entering the decimal value for the character (if so, I would guess that typing alt-0048 = the number 1, alt-0097 = a, alt-0098 = b and so on.)… Close. When you do Alt-nnn, where nnn is a 1-, 2-, or 3-digit number, you're entering the PC character set value, which would be the same as standard ASCII if nnn is <128. When you enter 4 or more digits, you're generating a Unicode character; this only works, of course, under any version of Windows which is new enough to support Unicode. You got me there. I guess I was going on some old information- I forgot to consider unicode and was only considering the old 8- bit ASCII. Can't always rely on the accuracy of my posts after 12:30 AM Key Caps is still here under MacOS X 10.2.8. True, but it disappeared in Panther, or has moved to some obscure location. Edited December 15, 2004 by DavidMac Quote Link to comment
+Bob Blaylock Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Key Caps is still here under MacOS X 10.2.8. True, but it disappeared in Panther, or has moved to some obscure location. Try looking under /Applications/Utilities/ That's where it is under Jaguar (MacOS X 10.2.x). If it's not there under Panther (MacOS X 10.3.x) then it's gotta be there somewhere else. Try doing a search on your hard drive for “Key Caps”. I can't imagine that they'd do away with it at this point. I think it's been a part of MacOS from the very beginning. Quote Link to comment
+Alan2 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 I think it's amazing that there's been 27 posts already to this rather simple topic question. Winter must have arrived; caching must be getting backburnered. Quote Link to comment
+Latitude 26 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Panther Keyboard Viewer: Click International Pref Pane in System Preferences. Click Input Menu tab. Click Checkbox next to Keyboard Viewer to activate - also click Show Input Menu in Menu Bar at bottom of pane. Quit System Preferences. You should see a "US Flag" on the right hand side of the menu bar. Click this menu. Select Show Keyboard Viewer. Select font. That's all... "Bassmedic" Quote Link to comment
+sTeamTraen Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 If you're on Windows, use Google to find the neat freeware "AllChars", which lets you build almost "any" character using a combination of keys. Eg: º = . and o ß = s and s é = e and ' It works in every application and after a very short while it becomes intuitive - no need to remember reams of ALT-numbers. It's not spyware or anything stupid like that. We use it on 1000+ PCs at my place of work (where we need to type a lot of accents, etc, with QWERTY keyboards). Nick Quote Link to comment
+Kai Team Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 On a Mac it is: alt, shift, 8 °Very easy. Yet another reason to go Mac. HWyatt Yeah, the posts about whether it's "option K" or "option 8", about not having an option key, etc. make it clear how much easier the Mac is to use. I guess Mac users have to brag about something, since they don't have any compatible software to run! Quote Link to comment
+wolves shepherd Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I visited this topic solely becaues it was getting so much activity. I thought maybe you all had discovered something marvelous in this pursuit! So anyway, as long as we're on this topic, how do I do the º on my Palm running OS5? It's not on the virtual keyboards and yet James Eli's Coordinate Conversion Program has it displayed in the data fields, so I know it's in there somewhere! Quote Link to comment
+Bob Blaylock Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 So anyway, as long as we're on this topic, how do I do the º on my Palm running OS5? It's not on the virtual keyboards and yet James Eli's Coordinate Conversion Program has it displayed in the data fields, so I know it's in there somewhere! I understand that Grafitti has changed from PalmOS 4.x to 5.x, but under 4.x and under 3.x, you get a degree symbol by doing the “extended shift” stroke (a diagonal from upper left to lower right), followed by a clockwise circle starting at the bottom. Quote Link to comment
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