+Rogue_monkey Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 I was just wondering how many people out there decode hints before they start the hunt, and how many decode as a last resort. Quote Link to comment
FisherBear Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 We usually look at the hint if there isn't a lot in the cache description. Quote Link to comment
+Robespierre Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 If the hint is huge, I might decode it first, but the idea is to do without. Quote Link to comment
+radioscout Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Because many european cachers don't know that information should be given as encrypted hint and use it for necessary information like opening hours from a park there a cache is hidden I decode the hint then I first look at a cache description. If the "hint" contains necessary information I print it with the hint decrypted. If the hint is very long I decrypt it before printing, put some transparent adhesive tape over the text and paint it black using a whiteboard marker so I can wipe it away if I need the hint. Quote Link to comment
+The Puzzler Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 I admit it. I almost always decrypt the hint. Quote Link to comment
+Team Perks Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 I use Cachemate--it decrypts the hints but puts them in a separate menu item so I don't see them automatically. I always skim the hints beforehand in case there are any crucial things I need to know (how to get there, any times of the day you can't access the cache, any special equipment you might need). By the time I actually arrive at the cache, I've long since forgotten the hint, so it doesn't spoil the fun for me. Quote Link to comment
+RichardMoore Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 I will decode the hint before I go out if: *The hint is longer than a few words. I don't want to be out there decoding a whole paragraph. *The cache description says that the cache is hidden in a small park with a lot of muggles and you need to be very discrete. I'll want to get in, get the cache, and get out as quickly as possible. Otherwise, I will look for the cache for about 30 to 45 minutes before decoding the hint. Quote Link to comment
+Wheelygood Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Most of the time I do not decode the hint, if I am traveling very far or there will not be phone service then I'll print the hints encrypted and play the decode game trail side as a last resort. I have from time to time phoned in to someone to check the listing and hint at the hint. Often times the hints are to helpful. Quote Link to comment
+CompuCash Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I decode the hint when I print the page with 5 logs - use it all as necessary when looking for the cache - Quote Link to comment
+Team Snoopy Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I always decode. I let my son read it and see if he can find the cache using the hint. Quote Link to comment
+Shop99er Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I always decode the hint when I print the sheet. I also go through the logs, and print anything that might be helpful. I will use whatever I need to. Quote Link to comment
+BadAndy Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I use GPXsonar, so the hint is decoded, but hidden from view. When I've spent an appropriate amt of time searching and I feel like a hint, I'll pull out the pocket pc and read it. Quote Link to comment
+YuccaPatrol Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Not until I log my DNF Quote Link to comment
+Divine Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I usually don't decode the hint or read the earlier logs before leaving for the hunt. If it seems I can't find the cache on the spot, I'll start decrypting. On some occations, like others have described, e.g. when I know I won't have much time on the cache site, or if the hint is very long, I've decrypted the hint before leaving. Quote Link to comment
+robert Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I use GPXsonar, so the hint is decoded, but hidden from view. When I've spent an appropriate amt of time searching and I feel like a hint, I'll pull out the pocket pc and read it. Same here. I usually wait until I feel I've exhausted all possibilities then highlight the hint area. Quote Link to comment
+robert Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Not until I log my DNF Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 If its more than 2-3 sentences, I'll decrypt ahead of time and fold the page over so I don't see it. Otherwise I wait until I get to the site and can't find it before decrypting. I'll usually give myself 15-30 minutes before doing so. Quote Link to comment
+BigHank Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Somedays I feel like 'caching, somedays I don't....same thing goes for decoding hints. When I do decode them, I really dislike the ones that say "no hint needed." Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 I always decode them before printing off the cache info. But my GPX application can print the hint upside-down, so I can't accidently read it before I might need it. Quote Link to comment
+Konnarock Kid & Marge Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 We use a pda. When the ol GPSr is within a few feet of the cache, we read the hint page in CacheMate. Quote Link to comment
+Rogue_monkey Posted October 6, 2004 Author Share Posted October 6, 2004 ok I guess I should state when I decode since I started the thread. Personally I wait till i've searched for a good while, usually longer than a half hour. I like to use it as a last resort. Seems there is a large group that does both, before and after. Kind of neat to see different peoples hunting styles. Quote Link to comment
Deego Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 OK I admit it ....... I am a hint reader. But caching has always been about the walk in different places more than the hunt. Quote Link to comment
Major Catastrophe Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 We use GPXSonar, so the hints are always available. There are decoding programs for just about any PDA. Danged if I'd ever go out with paper and have to spend time decoding one letter at a time, that's what computers are for. If I were using paper cache pages, I'd decode 'em before printing and try not to look until I had to... Quote Link to comment
+vree Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 I've started decrypting the hints ahead of time. It seems like the use of hints by different cache owners really varies. Some use clever clues that don't quite make sense until you're out at or near the cache site. I love those! Others give it away in the clue. It's hard to know when to decrypt it. I am grateful for owners who let you know that they give it away in the hint so you know not to decrypt it right away. I was really annoyed by one owner who put an encrypted hint on the page. I was stumped, so I decrypted it trailside... it said "you shouldn't need a hint, silly" or something to that effect. If I didn't think I needed a hint, I wouldn't have bothered to decrypt it. I think it's nice to have hints in case a cacher really can't find it. Quote Link to comment
+Divine Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 I was really annoyed by one owner who put an encrypted hint on the page. I was stumped, so I decrypted it trailside... it said "you shouldn't need a hint, silly" or something to that effect. If I didn't think I needed a hint, I wouldn't have bothered to decrypt it. I think it's nice to have hints in case a cacher really can't find it. Here's five pages of similar cases. Quote Link to comment
+Tread-n-Lightly Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 I use GPXsonar, so the hint is decoded, but hidden from view. When I've spent an appropriate amt of time searching and I feel like a hint, I'll pull out the pocket pc and read it. Same here. I usually wait until I feel I've exhausted all possibilities then highlight the hint area. Yep, ditto for me too... TNL Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 I generally don't decrypt until I need the hint (the timing depends alot on how the old brain is working at the time). I use Cachemate, which will decrypt at any time. I have it set to keep the hints encrypted - that way I can check to see if there is a hint without reading it (it eases the mind knowing I have a fallback postion). I also have Hint Decoder 1.1 (available on the GC.com Link page) - I use it when the hint is multi-part or long (I'll take a line at a time). Just be careful to copy text, not over-write - I did that once and had to return home to get the hint again. Quote Link to comment
+SherwoodForest Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 By the time I actually arrive at the cache, I've long since forgotten the hint, so it doesn't spoil the fun for me. exactly! and, for me the joy is in discovering the location where the cache is, not spending 20-60 minutes searching through every tree root or fallen log... now, deceptive micro hides where the hide is the object... i never see hints given for these, which is perfectly fine by me... if you can't find it and need a more blatant hint, that's when you email the cache owner for more info. so, yes, i always read the hints before hand, and don't worry about having 'cheated'. The goal is to have a good time, and find the cache, and that's what I do. Quote Link to comment
+JustBastet Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 When we first started, we decoded right away. We found that it made it too easy a lot of times and took some fun out of it for us so now we wait until we need the help. Usually one of us will start decoding and reading off the words while the other keeps looking. Most of the time we end up finding it before we decode the whole thing. I must admit, I do like having clues as a backup! Quote Link to comment
+JustBastet Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 I was really annoyed by one owner who put an encrypted hint on the page. I was stumped, so I decrypted it trailside... it said "you shouldn't need a hint, silly" or something to that effect. If I didn't think I needed a hint, I wouldn't have bothered to decrypt it. I think it's nice to have hints in case a cacher really can't find it. Here's five pages of similar cases. After reading this - I changed the hint on mine so thanks. Really, it should be pretty obvious when your there, even for a first time cacher. But, it's a good point that if you're decoding hint, you might need one. Quote Link to comment
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