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From a cache description:

 

"Continue a short distance to the signed trailhead where you will begin your search for four small plastic Nalgene bottles (about 2" long) with the familiar green Geocaching label, each filled with a common cooking spice."

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What cache is it? Are the spices to trade, or part of a puzzle?

Personally, I ban all scented items from my caches...

They're part of a puzzle. You have to identify the spice to get the clues for the next stage.

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What cache is it? Are the spices to trade, or part of a puzzle?

Personally, I ban all scented items from my caches...

They're part of a puzzle. You have to identify the spice to get the clues for the next stage.

By smell or just by a visual?

Smell and look

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leatherman

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Wow, I'm canceling all my hiking plans to find that one.... :P

You are? Cool. Do we still let Criminal's north of 49?

I would say that the Canadian laws are pretty slack.

 

The RCMP arrested an American escaped inmate in Hazelton B.C. The inmate had stabbed someone in a bar fight. The Canadian court let him go, and suggested that he turn him self in to the Americans.ShiftyEyes_anim.gif Brilliant!

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I suppose it's food... but is it food in a cache? If anything, the food is the cache. So I suppose the question is this: what is the intent of the general rule that food doesn't go in caches? If it's just to prevent animals from looting the cache, or maybe to prevent food poisoning of anyone who eats a stale trade item :P, then those purposes aren't implicated by this puzzle.

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Mud Puppy

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I suppose it's food... but is it food in a cache? If anything, the food is the cache. So I suppose the question is this: what is the intent of the general rule that food doesn't go in caches? If it's just to prevent animals from looting the cache, or maybe to prevent food poisoning of anyone who eats a stale trade item :P, then those purposes aren't implicated by this puzzle.

It is to prevent animals from destroying the cache.

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TotemLake

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I suppose it's food... but is it food in a cache? If anything, the food is the cache. So I suppose the question is this: what is the intent of the general rule that food doesn't go in caches? If it's just to prevent animals from looting the cache, or maybe to prevent food poisoning of anyone who eats a stale trade item  :P, then those purposes aren't implicated by this puzzle.

It is to prevent animals from destroying the cache.

Keeping animals from destroying the cache is only part of the problem. You don't want to feed wild animals - period. You wreck their ability to fend for themselves and become dependent upon human waste not to mention some of the stuff we eat can be detrimental to the animal's health.

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Wow, I'm canceling all my hiking plans to find that one.... :P

You are? Cool. Do we still let Criminal's north of 49?

I would say that the Canadian laws are pretty slack.

 

The RCMP arrested an American escaped inmate in Hazelton B.C. The inmate had stabbed someone in a bar fight. The Canadian court let him go, and suggested that he turn him self in to the Americans.ShiftyEyes_anim.gif Brilliant!

Why should we spend $50,000/year to keep him in custody? Let him go home, cause some more trouble, and the US penal system (and the US taxpayer!) can find a home for him

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TotemLake

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Wow, I'm canceling all my hiking plans to find that one.... :P

You are? Cool. Do we still let Criminal's north of 49?

I would say that the Canadian laws are pretty slack.

 

The RCMP arrested an American escaped inmate in Hazelton B.C. The inmate had stabbed someone in a bar fight. The Canadian court let him go, and suggested that he turn him self in to the Americans.ShiftyEyes_anim.gif Brilliant!

Why should we spend $50,000/year to keep him in custody? Let him go home, cause some more trouble, and the US penal system (and the US taxpayer!) can find a home for him

...and y'all declare we aren't up for fair trade. B)

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GOT GPS?

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Maybe we can get Famous American Chefs' to try this cache, would be interesting to see a segment on the FOOD Channel on Geocaching done at this Spice Multicache??? OR NOT??

 

Would be interesting to see what Chefs may come up with the right coords, using their noses for this Cache.

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Renegade Knight

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It's only food if an animal eats it or tears apart the cache trying to get at it.

 

Has anyone (or the cache owner) checked it out? Beer is food, my cat likes it. Mint is food my dog likes it. So I don't leave beer and mint in caches.

 

I like the idea of spice as a clue and find that maybe this does straddle the line between food and not food, it's worth a look. Rather than speculation. Plus cache location would make a difference. If animals can't get at it or the kinds of animals that would like it are not in the area to find the cache.

 

These are ideas.

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The RCMP arrested an American escaped inmate in Hazelton B.C. The inmate had stabbed someone in a bar fight. The Canadian court let him go, and suggested that he turn him self in to the Americans.

I've been to Hazelton. Trust me, he'll find his way back to the States PDQ. :P

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I like the idea of spice as a clue and find that maybe this does straddle the line between food and not food, it's worth a look.  Rather than speculation.  Plus cache location would make a difference.  If animals can't get at it or the kinds of animals that would like it are not in the area to find the cache.

 

These are ideas.

I too like the idea, and the creativity behind the idea, but I won't be opening up any containers and taking a whiff any time soon. Even if they do have an official geccaching.com sticker on them.

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leatherman

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Wow, I'm canceling all my hiking plans to find that one.... :P

You are? Cool. Do we still let Criminal's north of 49?

I would say that the Canadian laws are pretty slack.

 

The RCMP arrested an American escaped inmate in Hazelton B.C. The inmate had stabbed someone in a bar fight. The Canadian court let him go, and suggested that he turn him self in to the Americans.ShiftyEyes_anim.gif Brilliant!

Why should we spend $50,000/year to keep him in custody? Let him go home, cause some more trouble, and the US penal system (and the US taxpayer!) can find a home for him

Reason and prudence obviously elude you.

 

The inmate should have been charged with First degree assault, or the equivalent statute. He should have served his time for the assault.

Even transporting him to the U.S. would have been prudent. We may very well have tacked his Canadian sentence on to his American time.

 

Releasing him and suggesting he turn himself in?! Does the Socialist Canadian Government care that little for it's citizens?

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Riddlers

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Wow, I'm canceling all my hiking plans to find that one.... :P

You are? Cool. Do we still let Criminal's north of 49?

I would say that the Canadian laws are pretty slack.

 

The RCMP arrested an American escaped inmate in Hazelton B.C. The inmate had stabbed someone in a bar fight. The Canadian court let him go, and suggested that he turn him self in to the Americans.ShiftyEyes_anim.gif Brilliant!

Why should we spend $50,000/year to keep him in custody? Let him go home, cause some more trouble, and the US penal system (and the US taxpayer!) can find a home for him

Are you suggesting that you want to keep Criminal?

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Dagg

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Wow, I'm canceling all my hiking plans to find that one.... :P

You are? Cool. Do we still let Criminal's north of 49?

I would say that the Canadian laws are pretty slack.

 

The RCMP arrested an American escaped inmate in Hazelton B.C. The inmate had stabbed someone in a bar fight. The Canadian court let him go, and suggested that he turn him self in to the Americans.ShiftyEyes_anim.gif Brilliant!

Why should we spend $50,000/year to keep him in custody? Let him go home, cause some more trouble, and the US penal system (and the US taxpayer!) can find a home for him

yup!

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LeatherKnight

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TotemLake wrote:

Keeping animals from destroying the cache is only part of the problem. You don't want to feed wild animals - period. You wreck their ability to fend for themselves and become dependent upon human waste not to mention some of the stuff we eat can be detrimental to the animal's health.

 

You're right, TotemLake. Plus, animals never leave anything in trade, and don't sign the log. Still, I don't think that an animal who finds one food-filled cache will decide to give up catching his own food and rely on his geocaching abilities to sustain him. Then again, it could happen. A friend of mine once found a 50 dollar bill folded up and full of cocaine. He called me at 2 A.M that morning, blitzed on coke and told me he was going to make his living finding things. The next day he found $1.27 and a plastic hair barrette. The day after that he found 16 cents and a stick of bubblegum. Eventually, he starved to death.

 

So, I guess if a human is silly enough to let one stroke of serendipity ruin his life then an animal might do it too.

 

BTW, this cache sounds like good fun! Maybe Renegade Knight's dog can find the mint scented cache. As he said, mint is food. However, shoes are not food, but my dog likes them. Tinsel is not food, but my cat likes to eat it, with severely negative intestinal side effects that actually look pretty good hanging on the tree.

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Snoogans

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I suppose it's food... but is it food in a cache? If anything, the food is the cache. So I suppose the question is this: what is the intent of the general rule that food doesn't go in caches? If it's just to prevent animals from looting the cache, or maybe to prevent food poisoning of anyone who eats a stale trade item B), then those purposes aren't implicated by this puzzle.

Oh brother.... ^_^ The cache got approved didn't it?

 

I think it's a cool and ORIGINAL idea. Who gives a flip if it's food or not. It's NOT a trade item. It's a clue.

 

Sn :P:P gans

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Oh brother.... ^_^  The cache got approved didn't it?

 

I think it's a cool and ORIGINAL idea. Who gives a flip if it's food or not. It's NOT a trade item. It's a clue.

 

Sn :P  B) gans

Lots of caches get approved. :P

 

As to who "gives a flip"? Well, I do or I wouldn't have asked. Apparently you do too or you wouldn't have posted your opinion. And no, I'm not going to bother explaining to you why I posed the initial question.

 

It is possible to scroll by those topics that you don't care about.

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ju66l3r

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Just wanted to point out that some spices actually repel animals (mint is definitely not one of them...I don't know how there is a mint plant left for cavemen to find after watching every cat in the world tear up my grandmother's flower boxes every year). Some spices are even more repellent when they are dried because of the increase in potency by removing the water from the protein/chemical that makes it aggrevating to the animals.

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AAAAAUUURRRGGHGHGHG Against all my principals, and having screamed NO FOOD IN CACHES for two years now, I am biting my tongue as I say this. I like it. But I don't expect it will last too long, if it's already had an insect infestation (see the logs). But, I like to cook, and I think I'd get the anwers. Time will tell. Guess we'll just have to watch it and see what happens.

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Well, I'm the owner of this cache, and have to throw in my two cents worth...

 

The insect problems noted in the cache logs were at the final ammo box location -- far away from the spice containers -- and there is no food in the final cache, so the insects (aphids, I suspect) just happened to be in the area around the cache.

 

The spices I selected, while all having fairly strong odours, are not the sort that would attract animals -- no animal would be interested in gnawing through a thick, well-sealed plastic container to get at any of the four spices I placed in the micros, as I'm sure they would all be quite unpalatable to a critter. Time will tell....

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Well, I'm the owner of this cache, and have to throw in my two cents worth...

 

The insect problems noted in the cache logs were at the final ammo box location -- far away from the spice containers -- and there is no food in the final cache, so the insects (aphids, I suspect) just happened to be in the area around the cache.

 

The spices I selected, while all having fairly strong odours, are not the sort that would attract animals -- no animal would be interested in gnawing through a thick, well-sealed plastic container to get at any of the four spices I placed in the micros, as I'm sure they would all be quite unpalatable to a critter. Time will tell....

that's the way i read the post. the bugs were in the cache, not the spices. i think it's a cool idea.

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