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Jamethiel

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Your welcome. :P

This thread kinda reminds me of that part in the Vagina Monologues where they read off all the names women gave them for genitalia.

The question of inappropriate is so often based on a person's own experiences that for some people, even using medical terms is too shocking.

Wonder how long this thread is open. :)

Y'all have a good weekend.

-Jennifer

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Keystone

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This is a legitimate discussion topic if the Forum Guidelines are followed. You can speak in general terms without trying to test the moderators on what words you can get away with. For example, we recently turned down a cache name that had a play on words that was based on an ethnic slur. It is proper to post here by saying "I don't think slang terms for ethnic groups are appropriate for geocache names." It is not proper to list all of the slang terms.

 

The condom post is off-topic. We are talking about cache names. Don't leave condoms in caches; this is a family sport.

 

I would also note that the language standards for cache names are a bit different than here in the forums. When I have my daughter with me and she asks "what cache is next on the list, Daddy?" I would like to be able to tell her without blushing.

 

I'd be appreciative if you could keep the above guidelines in mind when posting in this topic.

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Renegade Knight

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This is just funny. A valid topic that by nature pushes the limit.

 

Kids would think my cache is funny because they don't understand it. Hell I was clueless about half the cartoons I watched as a kid. Now if I catch one it raises an eyebrow. I don't recall any of the adult humor they have from when I was a kid. But that's the point. Kids won't get it and if they do they are not kids.

 

I'd like to see someone roll that up into a guideline and smoke it.

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9Key

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Sorta back on topic, I try to avoid the use of the word "cache" in the name, at all costs. It's redundant to call a cache "Creek Cache", for example.

Its obviously a "cache", since its listed on a geocaching web site. Not very creative either, but that's neither here nor there.

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Tenniskid

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I like to try and have some signifigance with naming the cache such as where it's at, what's the weather like, the view, the surroundings, who hid it, if im hungry or not, if i have cheetos stains on my mouth and fingers. LOL ok maybe not the last2.

 

Hope it helps

 

~Derek

 

 

"If i were tupperware, where would i hide. Think like tupperware!!!"

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hedberg

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Hey? Does people in the US get upset if I write "f***ing"?

Now I understand why there is so many "biiip" on american tv-shows....

 

And you are talking about people can be able to speak what ever they want in the US? :P Come to Sweden, and hear for example Eminem sing his lyrics without censorship....

 

I have just 10 minutes ago written the word 'f***ing' on a cachepage, and I don't think that anyone will care..

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Divine

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Hey? Does people in the US get upset if I write "f***ing"?

Now I understand why there is so many "biiip" on american tv-shows....

 

I have just 10 minutes ago written the word 'f***ing' on a cachepage, and I don't think that anyone will care..

Think for yourself, hedberg. You seem to have a cute little kid. Do you use that kind of language (in Swedish) in his presence? When he grows older and creates an account in gc.com, do you want him to read (or even write) logs with that kind of language? If not, you may understand why people don't support cursing in gc.com.

 

And you are talking about people can be able to speak what ever they want in the US?  :bad:  Come to Sweden, and hear for example Eminem sing his lyrics without censorship....
Ugh...rather not, thanks. :P

 

I know what you mean, I don't like censorship either, and IMO grown up people should be allowed to freely choose what kind of (legal) entertainment they get without some third party coming and choosing the appropriate parts for them. But gc.com is a family oriented hobby, and while I have no kids and I do curse a lot, I see no reason to try using a bit less cuss words here. :)

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hedberg

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I don't want people to paint obscene objects on the cache box, or put things like condoms, sexmagazine and pornotapes inside the cache.

 

But I can't understand how people can be upset if there is a obscene word in the name of the cache. Often do we play around with the words when we name a cache.

 

If we are not allowed to name a cache with words that might be offensive, like religious words as "God", then it is really stupid.

 

There is a lot of caches in Sweden that are named with religious words; church, God, Closest way to God, Calling God - just to mention a couple of them.

I think that we can find that kind of names on caches in many countries all over the world.

 

If I place a cache at a church, I might name if after the church, God or something else that I think goes along with the cache. But will it be offensive to people that don't believe in God?!?

 

I think that the problem with geocaching is that people are looking for rules for everything. It's a sport, it's a global sport. It's all about leaving your home and go out and find caches. What the cache is named, doesn't matter. It is just a name for the cache. If you don't like the name - don't go for that cache!!

 

The same with people that wants to forbid small film canisters, underwater caches, caches near bridges and so on... If you don't like them - don't go hunting them!

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hedberg

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Hey? Does people in the US get upset if I write "f***ing"?

Now I understand why there is so many "biiip" on american tv-shows....

 

I have just 10 minutes ago written the word 'f***ing' on a cachepage, and I don't think that anyone will care..

Think for yourself, hedberg. You seem to have a cute little kid. Do you use that kind of language (in Swedish) in his presence? When he grows older and creates an account in gc.com, do you want him to read (or even write) logs with that kind of language? If not, you may understand why people don't support cursing in gc.com.

 

And you are talking about people can be able to speak what ever they want in the US?  :bad:  Come to Sweden, and hear for example Eminem sing his lyrics without censorship....
Ugh...rather not, thanks. :P

 

I know what you mean, I don't like censorship either, and IMO grown up people should be allowed to freely choose what kind of (legal) entertainment they get without some third party coming and choosing the appropriate parts for them. But gc.com is a family oriented hobby, and while I have no kids and I do curse a lot, I see no reason to try using a bit less cuss words here. :)

Hey? Does people in the US get upset if I write "f***ing"?

Now I understand why there is so many "biiip" on american tv-shows....

 

I have just 10 minutes ago written the word 'f***ing' on a cachepage, and I don't think that anyone will care..

 

Think for yourself, hedberg. You seem to have a cute little kid. Do you use that kind of language (in Swedish) in his presence? When he grows older and creates an account in gc.com, do you want him to read (or even write) logs with that kind of language? If not, you may understand why people don't support cursing in gc.com.

 

The word on the page is written there just because it is in a town (Åmål) that became known in Sweden in a movie called 'f***ing Åmål'. The movie is considered to be the most important movie all times for young Sweds. I haven't written the word there for fun - if you think I did it.

 

Obscene is just what people get it to be. It is not long time ago when showing the foot of a woman was concidered to be porn! Time changes... A couple of hundred years ago was being fat a sign of being rich and healthie!

 

You don't think, when my son is old enough to create his own account here, that he might find obscene things on the internet?!? I heard something that more than 90% of all the content of the internet are porno.

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davwil

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OKay:

 

How about *HOLY OLD JUMPIN UP AND DOWN JEEPERS KREEPERS SON OF A GUN GEE WIZ SON OF A GUN... ouch, that was hot* .... (my Dad actually said that one time when he picked up the wrong end of the soldering iron!!!!)

 

There's no Shore like the North Shore, that's for sure!

 

Dave

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Divine

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The word on the page is written there just because it is in a town (Åmål) that became known in Sweden in a movie called 'f***ing Åmål'. The movie is considered to be the most important movie all times for young Sweds. I haven't written the word there for fun - if you think I did it.
I know that movie. It's directed by Lukas Moodysson, if I remember right, and I appreciate mr. Moodysson's work a lot. Too bad I haven't seen f***ing Åmål yet.

 

Well, now that you mentioned that the f-word on the cache page is from that certain movie, I have no objcetion to it, because now it has a certain context. It will still probably amaze the occational foreign cachers who will find the cache page, but that's a matter of little concern. I just thought that you were cursing in general in a cache page, which I still don't support, because this still is family oriented hobby.

 

Just compare it to if I logged your cache in Swedish and used all the svenska cuss words I know. That wouldn't look nice even if I liked the cache.

You don't think, when my son is old enough to create his own account here, that he might find obscene things on the internet?!? I heard something that more than 90% of all the content of the internet are porno.
The fact that he would be able to look up for porn in internet is by no means a reason to start using foul language here, is it?
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Insp Gadget

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This is a legitimate discussion topic if the Forum Guidelines are followed. You can speak in general terms without trying to test the moderators on what words you can get away with. For example, we recently turned down a cache name that had a play on words that was based on an ethnic slur. It is proper to post here by saying "I don't think slang terms for ethnic groups are appropriate for geocache names." It is not proper to list all of the slang terms.

 

The condom post is off-topic. We are talking about cache names. Don't leave condoms in caches; this is a family sport.

 

I would also note that the language standards for cache names are a bit different than here in the forums. When I have my daughter with me and she asks "what cache is next on the list, Daddy?" I would like to be able to tell her without blushing.

 

I'd be appreciative if you could keep the above guidelines in mind when posting in this topic.

I think we are getting off topic here. I heard this "expression" from a good friend of mine when he hit his finger with a hammer. I thought it was hilarious and wanted to share it with others.

 

I guess the question I was trying to ask is: are medical terms off limit? Foreskin is a legitimate medical word, not slang. Would someone be offended by seeing it on the web site? Personally I'd give $5 to someone who could offend me, but I understand there are others who are more sensitive to this sort of thing, which is fine. To each his or her own.

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OzGuff

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Personally I'd give $5 to someone who could offend me

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Uh oh! I sense some warning meters warming up... Was this an actual offer? Did you throw down the gauntlet? Because if you did, there are people here who thrive on offending folks!

 

Of course, it could make for an interesting, though short-lived, thread!

 

OzGuff

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Sparky-Watts

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If we are not allowed to name a cache with words that might be offensive, like religious words as "God", then it is really stupid.

 

There is a lot of caches in Sweden that are named with religious words; church, God, Closest way to God, Calling God - just to mention a couple of them.

I think that we can find that kind of names on caches in many countries all over the world.

 

If I place a cache at a church, I might name if after the church, God or something else that I think goes along with the cache. But will it be offensive to people that don't believe in God?!?

 

Ah, but here in the good ol' US of A, a country founded on Christianity, we are even having that censored. I know, that's off-topic and isn't at all a can of worms I want to open. Hed, I'm afraid you share the same view of America that many from other countries share, that America is a place where you can do and say what you want.....but alas, we have the ACLU here, and that isn't the case.

 

But, otherwise, you HAVE made some very good points, and I applaud you for those. I think what a lot of people, myself included, don't or didn't realize, is the number of cachers we have in the forums from other countries. That was plain ignorance on my part, and I apologize. This website, I believe, is based in the US (correct me if I'm wrong) and in general, I think TPTB tend to see things from that point of view. What may be a good thing in one county could get you whacked in another country, and we all need to be aware of that (myself included).

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Sparky-Watts

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hedberg said:
Obscene is just what people get it to be. It is not long time ago when showing the foot of a woman was concidered to be porn! Time changes... A couple of hundred years ago was being fat a sign of being rich and healthie!

Perception is reality. Indeed it is.

Off topic but not by far: There is still a law on the books in Kansas that states if an adult male (over age 18) is found with a barefoot female passenger in his car under age of 16, then it is statutory rape. Doesn't get used much, but it's there. Perception is in the eye of the perceiver.

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Planet

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And you are talking about people can be able to speak what ever they want in the US? :P Come to Sweden, and hear for example Eminem sing his lyrics without censorship....

 

I wouldn't walk across the street to hear eminem "singing" (it's not music)!!! not in one million years. Not if you paid me for one million years a million dollars a day!!! But let me tell you how I really feel. I don't give a rat's behind who flames me for this statement either!

 

You shouldn't say anything that George Carlin ever said, add Richard Pryor in there too. And nothing ever mouthed by Andrew Dice Clay. Keep it clean, there are children present.

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Sparky-Watts

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You shouldn't say anything that George Carlin ever said, add Richard Pryor in there too. And nothing ever mouthed by Andrew Dice Clay. Keep it clean, there are children present.

What my mammy and pappy always said to me, and I say to my kids: don't ever say anything in public that you wouldn't feel comfortable saying in front of the church congregation.

 

Oh, and DITTO on the eminem thing!

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Johnnie Stalkers

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We have a cache named 'CatTail Cache'. Looks like I broke several rules when naming this. Using the word cache, oops. Plus using the words cat tail, hmmm could be interpreted poorly I assume. Whatever.

 

People will find a reason to be offended if they choose to offended. If the person naming the cache does so with the intention to offend then it can and should be considered offensive. George Carlin talks about this. It isn't the word itself, but the meaning the person saying it intends it to have. I happen to agree.

 

Keystone- something about not allowing condoms in caches based on 'family activity' strikes me as funny. By not allowing condoms are we encouraging families? :P

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Johnnie Stalkers

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Well of course it is in a marsh. A rather lovely area I might add. Also happens to be a FAMILY ORIENTED cache. We cache alot with our 4 year old and wanted to place the type of cache we like to take him on. So far it has been well received.

 

Would the 'condom cache' be such a bad thing? It's 'safe', water proof and responsible :P . hmmm I'm gonna go see if anyone else has done this one yet.

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Keystone

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Based on prior debates (just do a search), the community consensus is that condoms are inappropriate trade items. Therefore, a condom-themed cache would be equally inappropriate. If you wish to debate cache contents further, start another thread. Before doing so, please read Jeremy's summary of the issue Way Way Back Here. We now return you to our regularly scheduled discussion of cache names.

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Sparky-Watts

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People will find a reason to be offended if they choose to offended. If the person naming the cache does so with the intention to offend then it can and should be considered offensive. George Carlin talks about this. It isn't the word itself, but the meaning the person saying it intends it to have. I happen to agree.

 

True, offensive words are usually up to debate, but I still just can't see any debate about a family oriented cache with the name Snappin' Foreskins. It is distasteful and in my opinion, nothing even remotely connected to Geocaching could make it tasteful. I mean, seriously, what other meaning could be inferred by this term? George Carlin refers to words in our language that have double meanings, and as I'm still hovering on 10% on the warn meter, I won't list any examples here. This word has one meaning, and one meaning only, regardless if it's a medical term, it's still not acceptible for a cache name.

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Jomarac5

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Keystone Approver wrote:

Therefore, a condom-themed cache would be equally inappropriate.

Darn! I guess that rules out a condom exchange cache. :P

 

This thread reminds me of a line from a 1950's Disney cartoon where Mickey Mouse and Goofy are chasing a guy with a kitten in a cardboard container -- Mickey says "Quick Goofy, snatch that pussy and put it in the box" -- some of those cartoon writers were likely laughing pretty good about getting that one past the censors.

 

Seriously, this is a family based activity and anything blatantly offensive should be avoided. I would say that the cache title suggested by the topic starter would be crossing the line. Having said this, however, I really don't have a problem with a cache title that incorporates a double-entendre so long as it's obvious that it will go over the heads of the little ones.

 

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Team GPSaxophone

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People will find a reason to be offended if they choose to offended.  If the person naming the cache does so with the intention to offend then it can and should be considered offensive.  George Carlin talks about this.  It isn't the word itself, but the meaning the person saying it intends it to have.  I happen to agree.

 

True, offensive words are usually up to debate, but I still just can't see any debate about a family oriented cache with the name Snappin' Foreskins. It is distasteful and in my opinion, nothing even remotely connected to Geocaching could make it tasteful. I mean, seriously, what other meaning could be inferred by this term? George Carlin refers to words in our language that have double meanings, and as I'm still hovering on 10% on the warn meter, I won't list any examples here. This word has one meaning, and one meaning only, regardless if it's a medical term, it's still not acceptible for a cache name.

Snappin' could refer to quite a few things

Fore is a term used in golf and it also means in front

skins could be sports terms like 'skins game' 'shirts and skins' or hunting as in pelts (an animal's skin or fur)

 

Don't presume that YOUR definition is the only one people will think of when they see those words (although I agree that it is an inappropriate name for a cache if there is no explanation to offer for using it)

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