+Gill & Tony Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Have the requirements for the week 2 souvenir been announced yet? Any info would be appreciated Thanks Tony 1 Quote Link to comment
+redsox_mark Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I've not seen it. Nothing on the blog. I expect it will be revealed soon. Quote Link to comment
+SeattleWayne Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I'm assuming we get the souvenir for this week after July 23rd? Asking for a friend. Quote Link to comment
+van der Decken Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 According to the FAQ, each week's souvenir will be awarded on the following Wednesday. So this week's souvenir will be awarded on July 26. 1 Quote Link to comment
Lebbetter Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 9 hours ago, Gill & Tony said: Have the requirements for the week 2 souvenir been announced yet? Any info would be appreciated Thanks Tony We will announce the requirements early on Monday next week! They will also be available on the Friend League page once it refreshes on the 24th at noon UTC. Quote Link to comment
+hawk-dive Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Week two requirements are out now. Quote Link to comment
+speakers-corner Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 This it what was posted by an Event I visited. Week 2: July 24-30, 2017 Find and log a geocache* = 5 gold coins. Find and log a geocache with 10 or more Favorite points = 7 gold coins. Attend and log an event cache = 7 gold coins. Retrieve a trackable from a cache = 5 gold coins. Drop a trackable into a cache = 10 gold coins. *Excludes lab caches and web cam Caches. Quote Link to comment
+noncentric Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 For the 2nd week's souvenir, a cacher needs to get 10 points individually. Seems like it will be an easy week. Quote Link to comment
+SeattleWayne Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, noncentric said: For the 2nd week's souvenir, a cacher needs to get 10 points individually. Seems like it will be an easy week. Very, very easy week. Quote Link to comment
+Gill & Tony Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 So, if I do some maintenance on one of my caches, drop my personal trackable into it and then immediately retrieve it, I get 10 points? Some folk will get this souvenir without leaving home! Quote Link to comment
+TheVoytekBear Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 4 hours ago, speakers-corner said: This it what was posted by an Event I visited. Week 2: July 24-30, 2017 Find and log a geocache* = 5 gold coins. Find and log a geocache with 10 or more Favorite points = 7 gold coins. Attend and log an event cache = 7 gold coins. Retrieve a trackable from a cache = 5 gold coins. Drop a trackable into a cache = 10 gold coins. *Excludes lab caches and web cam Caches. But what's the total requirement? From the previous week my total "league" points was 1285/30 and I assume it will increase before Wednesday... Quote Link to comment
+noncentric Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 minute ago, TheVoytekBear said: But what's the total requirement? From the previous week my total "league" points was 1285/30 and I assume it will increase before Wednesday... For the 2nd week's souvenir, a cacher needs to get 10 points individually. Quote Link to comment
+TheVoytekBear Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 In the first week it was 5 ponts individual + 30 "league". Did they just drop this to finding 2 caches for the entire week? Quote Link to comment
+HHL Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 https://www.geocaching.com/blog/2017/07/faqs-the-lost-treasure-of-mary-hyde/#unique-identifier7 Hans Quote Link to comment
+TheVoytekBear Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 OK, that puts it straight. Now I have to figure out what to do with the rest of the day after I finish my 15 minute souvenir hunt for this week Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Gill & Tony said: So, if I do some maintenance on one of my caches, drop my personal trackable into it and then immediately retrieve it, I get 10 points? Some folk will get this souvenir without leaving home! Yes, some folks will look for any loophole that can be exploited if if means more finds or more souvenirs. Quote Link to comment
+redsox_mark Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Gill & Tony said: So, if I do some maintenance on one of my caches, drop my personal trackable into it and then immediately retrieve it, I get 10 points? Some folk will get this souvenir without leaving home! If you drop and retrieve you will get 15. Quote Link to comment
+thebruce0 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I'm wondering how they're determining the minimum requirement. I mean, with all this in the system, surely they can tell the average, median, and various other stats, and decide what level would be 'easy', 'hard', and 'challenging'. Really, 10 points? In a week? I can't imagine anybody unable to achieve that. I can understand making it accessible for everybody, but that seems... strange. I surely in perhaps the last week they'll provide a few tiers - keep an 'easy' that everyone can qualify for, but provide different levels to actually make a challenge for people who are 'earning' thousands of times more coins than required. There's no fun or point, really, in this unless all you care about is a digital souvenir that everyone gets. It's like a participation trophy. =/ IF they want to make a game out of it, then make it a game with actual goals to set out to achieve (knowing that the spectrum of ability is quite far and wide). But it really has more value if it's not something that everyone gets. Otherwise, don't do it all, since it'd be encouraging competition (not in a vs-way, but in a bragging-rights way; and moreso than say earning souvenirs for finding caches in certain countries) Quote Link to comment
+Team Hugs Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 So, my question about Week 2 is this: ... um, what's the point in having activities that are worth 7 points, if the goal is to earn 10 points? If a player does something to earn 7 points, they still have to complete a second activity to pass the 10 point threshold. Those 7 point activities could just as easily be 5 point activities with zero effect on the game. Quote Link to comment
+cowgirl68 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 My question is this: The Mary Hyde FAQ states, "You can access last week’s Friend League through a link on the current page." However, I have not been able to find the link. Also, it's not clear what page they mean by "current page." Any help would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, cowgirl68 said: My question is this: The Mary Hyde FAQ states, "You can access last week’s Friend League through a link on the current page." However, I have not been able to find the link. Also, it's not clear what page they mean by "current page." Any help would be greatly appreciated. "Current page" Hit on 'Week of' upper left on the scroll, and you can select which week to look at. 1 Quote Link to comment
+cowgirl68 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Thanks a million @Harry Dolphin for your kind assistance! I completely missed that little "week of" function. Quote Link to comment
+amber1997 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Has anyone received their second souvenir yet please? Quote Link to comment
+cowgirl68 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I haven't. It's 3:00 p.m. Mountain Time. Quote Link to comment
+van der Decken Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 It is coming, believe it or not. I just checked my profile and the first map piece souvenir is there. Quote Link to comment
+cowgirl68 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Got it! I spoke too soon earlier -- it came 22 minutes after my last post. Quote Link to comment
+SeattleWayne Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 On 7/24/2017 at 7:06 AM, thebruce0 said: I'm wondering how they're determining the minimum requirement. I mean, with all this in the system, surely they can tell the average, median, and various other stats, and decide what level would be 'easy', 'hard', and 'challenging'. Really, 10 points? In a week? I can't imagine anybody unable to achieve that. I can understand making it accessible for everybody, but that seems... strange. I surely in perhaps the last week they'll provide a few tiers - keep an 'easy' that everyone can qualify for, but provide different levels to actually make a challenge for people who are 'earning' thousands of times more coins than required. There's no fun or point, really, in this unless all you care about is a digital souvenir that everyone gets. It's like a participation trophy. =/ IF they want to make a game out of it, then make it a game with actual goals to set out to achieve (knowing that the spectrum of ability is quite far and wide). But it really has more value if it's not something that everyone gets. Otherwise, don't do it all, since it'd be encouraging competition (not in a vs-way, but in a bragging-rights way; and moreso than say earning souvenirs for finding caches in certain countries) I think it's perfectly okay and appropriate for Groundspeak to make collecting these souvenirs easy enough for anyone to get. It is a game, and making souvenirs less hard to get doesn't make it any less of a game. 2 Quote Link to comment
+thebruce0 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, SeattleWayne said: I think it's perfectly okay and appropriate for Groundspeak to make collecting these souvenirs easy enough for anyone to get. It is a game, and making souvenirs less hard to get doesn't make it any less of a game. As do I. That's why I like the idea of tiers... I'm not so much a fan of everybody gets [every] trophy. The 10 point souvenir could be the 'participation medal', sure. But why not provide, since 'it's a game', actual challenges for tasks so you can earn something better? If that's the route they're going, then that would be more in line than just giving everybody a souvenir for doing absolute minimum geocaching activities, and that's all there is to it Give us a challenge. And sure, give something that everyone can earn as well. Quote Link to comment
+SeattleWayne Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 2 hours ago, thebruce0 said: As do I. That's why I like the idea of tiers... I'm not so much a fan of everybody gets [every] trophy. The 10 point souvenir could be the 'participation medal', sure. But why not provide, since 'it's a game', actual challenges for tasks so you can earn something better? If that's the route they're going, then that would be more in line than just giving everybody a souvenir for doing absolute minimum geocaching activities, and that's all there is to it Give us a challenge. And sure, give something that everyone can earn as well. Did you forget about Geocaching Roadtrip of 2015? Quote Link to comment
+Optimist on the run Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, SeattleWayne said: Did you forget about Geocaching Roadtrip of 2015? I can't remember the exact details of the 2015 roadtrip, but I seem to recall that in most previous years, at least as long as I've been caching, the challenges have encouraged users to try something different. In 2014, for example. I attended my first event, having previously avoided them as I was worried (incorrectly) that they would be too cliquey and I wouldn't be welcome. Other souvenirs have probably got people to try a mystery or multi for the first time. The idea of this year's challenge appears to be about increasing your friend list, which is why I can't see the point of this week's souvenir at all. Anyway, I've set myself a personal challenge. Last week I got 95 "coins" - if I don't get 100 this week I'll hide the souvenir when I get it. Quote Link to comment
+redsox_mark Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Optimist on the run said: I can't remember the exact details of the 2015 roadtrip, but I seem to recall that in most previous years, at least as long as I've been caching, the challenges have encouraged users to try something different. In 2014, for example. I attended my first event, having previously avoided them as I was worried (incorrectly) that they would be too cliquey and I wouldn't be welcome. Other souvenirs have probably got people to try a mystery or multi for the first time. The idea of this year's challenge appears to be about increasing your friend list, which is why I can't see the point of this week's souvenir at all. Anyway, I've set myself a personal challenge. Last week I got 95 "coins" - if I don't get 100 this week I'll hide the souvenir when I get it. I agree this week's seems odd. The task doesn't need to be difficult, but generally it is more specific than just "find 2 caches". Perhaps the comment about 2015 relates to one of those you needed a D5 or T5 cache. As others have speculated, it is almost like something didn't go to plan. Perhaps the idea for this week was to promote trackables, and the original idea was the only way to get goins was to move trackables? Then someone decided they couldn't do that, so they added "or find 2 caches"? Quote Link to comment
+SeattleWayne Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 4 hours ago, redsox_mark said: I agree this week's seems odd. The task doesn't need to be difficult, but generally it is more specific than just "find 2 caches". Perhaps the comment about 2015 relates to one of those you needed a D5 or T5 cache. As others have speculated, it is almost like something didn't go to plan. Perhaps the idea for this week was to promote trackables, and the original idea was the only way to get goins was to move trackables? Then someone decided they couldn't do that, so they added "or find 2 caches"? Maybe. And that's perfectly fine. Not everyone is going to be able to find a TB to move it along. It's obvious that some view souvenirs as an accomplish. I view them as a fun addition to geocaching to help spark interest. And yes, I was referring to the D5/T5 task. Quote Link to comment
+SeattleWayne Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Optimist on the run said: - if I don't get 100 this week I'll hide the souvenir when I get it. Whatever floats your boat. Quote Link to comment
+_dxd_ Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 7 hours ago, redsox_mark said: Perhaps the idea for this week was to promote trackables, and the original idea was the only way to get goins was to move trackables? Then someone decided they couldn't do that, so they added "or find 2 caches"? Maybe they realized there are very few trackables still out there in the wild, at least in some areas. I did a search for caches near home, then looked at the pages of caches showing trackables. I went through around 30 pages before I gave up. There were few caches that showed anything in inventory, and almost all of those trackables hadn't been seen in 2 years or more. I'm considering releasing a "homemade" travel bug for one of mine that has gone missing years ago. If it doesn't move because players don't recognize it, o well. If it disappears... no, when it disappears, no worse off then it is now. Quote Link to comment
+SeattleWayne Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, dixiedawn said: Maybe they realized there are very few trackables still out there in the wild, at least in some areas. I did a search for caches near home, then looked at the pages of caches showing trackables. I went through around 30 pages before I gave up. There were few caches that showed anything in inventory, and almost all of those trackables hadn't been seen in 2 years or more. I'm considering releasing a "homemade" travel bug for one of mine that has gone missing years ago. If it doesn't move because players don't recognize it, o well. If it disappears... no, when it disappears, no worse off then it is now. I think they would have made this realization long before they started publishing the blog for the Mary Hyde adventure. The overall goal is to recognize TB's this week, and knowing full well that there are very limited TBs left, it might also be a promotion for some to go out and buy TBs. In addition to all of this, finding two caches might be given as an alternative. Quote Link to comment
seba28 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I logged to late my found in week one? Any chance to got the souvenir later? Quote Link to comment
+AutisticMajor Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I haven't got the week 2 souvenir yet, and I had at least double the required 30 gold. Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, AutisticMajor said: I haven't got the week 2 souvenir yet, and I had at least double the required 30 gold. They're planning to release it tomorrow: "Wednesday at noon UTC" Quote Link to comment
+AutisticMajor Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 hours ago, niraD said: They're planning to release it tomorrow: "Wednesday at noon UTC" Thanks. I was worried. Quote Link to comment
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