Which category for this?

[+ScroogieII]

22 hours ago, PISA-caching said:

Thanks to everybody. The waymark was approved in the World War II Memorials / Monuments category.

 

Which is as it should be. On November 29, 1944 WWII raged on.

Keith

[+sernikk]

I've found new courts in my neighborhood for a game called Teqball. As I understand it, it is a variation of table tennis, played with body parts or tennis rackets (depending on the variation). I thought it may be cool to add it on Waymarking, but I knew this one would be hard as this game is not the most popular one.

 

 

I tried to fit this into the Tennis Courts category, cause I thought that's the closest I can get. The waymark got approved and then after few hours declined with the statement that this is not Tennis and the definition of Teqball (as I would not know what I'm adding). Sadly, no other category suggestions. I can understand that this is not tennis, but a similar game based on it in a way. I saw categories where people try to fit stuff that is only close to the main idea, but there is no problem with that. That was my understanding.

 

So the question is, does anybody have an idea in which category could this place be added? I went through many, but I don't see any fitting one, but maybe I skipped something

 

 

 

[+Alfouine]

Try tennis facilities

[vulture1957]

maybe an idea for a new category -- Recreation - Sports Multifarious.

 

In my area, they have started making Pickleball Courts - which would have the same problem. When I was in school, we had a Flickerball Field - think Basketball-ish goal, played with an American football, absolutely NO CONTACT. Played a lot like Soccer, lots of passing, not much running with the ball.

Edited April 2, 2021 by vulture1957

[+sernikk]

52 minutes ago, Alfouine said:

Try tennis facilities

"I tried to fit this into the Tennis Courts category, cause I thought that's the closest I can get. The waymark got approved and then after few hours declined with the statement that this is not Tennis and the definition of Teqball"

 

I meant Tennis Facilities, maybe I was not precise enough. As said, I tried but nope.

 

53 minutes ago, vulture1957 said:

maybe an idea for a new category -- Recreation - Sports Multifarious.

 

In my area, they have started making Pickleball Courts - which would have the same problem. When I was in school, we had a Flickerball Field - think Basketball-ish goal, played with an American football, absolutely NO CONTACT. Played a lot like Soccer, lots of passing, not much running with the ball.

 

I would love to see such category, as there is clearly a gap. Could even help out.

[razalas]

I'm working in a category that would fit this, it started as a table tennis but at the time the draft it has englobe more types of similar items.

I will create a group to show the category.

[+sernikk]

8 minutes ago, razalas said:

I'm working in a category that would fit this, it started as a table tennis but at the time the draft it has englobe more types of similar items.

I will create a group to show the category.

 

Sounds great

[+bluesnote]

I'm the one who originally accepted it. I did contemplate whether it should be accepted or not, but I ended up approving it for several reasons. One, it is classified as table tennis. Another is that there is no other category that it would sit comfortably in. I believe we should accept them. I have no idea why the other officer declined it, but I would object to their decision.

Edited April 3, 2021 by bluesnote

[vulture1957]

46 minutes ago, Max and 99 said:

I haven't seen Pickleball courts, just pickleball being played on tennis courts. It looks like so much fun!! The pickleball store nearby didn't last long-it was turned into a barbershop.

check out Chicken N Pickle or

Greater Okc Pickleball Club

Address: 1312 S Pennsylvania Ave, Oklahoma City, OK 73108

Edited April 3, 2021 by vulture1957

[+sernikk]

6 hours ago, bluesnote said:

I'm the one who originally accepted it. I did contemplate whether it should be accepted or not, but I ended up approving it for several reasons. One, it is classified as table tennis. Another is that there is no other category that it would sit comfortably in. I believe we should accept them. I have no idea why the other officer declined it, but I would object to their decision.

 

Thanks for your comment on that. I understand your reasoning and my was the same. No other category, similar, then why not? I can also see the point of the other officer, but this should result in creating a new category like proposed. A mix of various not covered activites or some smaller categories fitting exact sports. I think Waymarking should cover most, when not all, activities, exactly as it is done in other themed categories - there always is a "multifarious", where you can put your place, when all other seems not right. As said I'm happy that some steps were made and I'm ready to help or wait for the result

[+PISA-caching]

It's not that I was ignoring you. I just don't have an answer, other than "Astain".  I would rather say "Yeah", but would also understand, if an officer of that category said "Nay".

[Becktracker]

I think these footprints are a perfect fit to citizen memorials.

[+ScroogieII]

On 4/13/2021 at 9:00 PM, Max and 99 said:

Yeah or Nay for Petrosomatoglyphs?

 

The category mentions "shoemark imprints on concrete" as acceptable, so it should be a Yea...

The imprints were true imprints from the shoes in question. Though they were done in bronze, then set into the concrete, that method is not specifically prohibited.

[+PISA-caching]

19 hours ago, ScroogieII said:

 

The category mentions "shoemark imprints on concrete" as acceptable, so it should be a Yea...

The imprints were true imprints from the shoes in question. Though they were done in bronze, then set into the concrete, that method is not specifically prohibited.

 

That's why my answer would also rather be Yes, but on the other hand they were done with a bronze copy of the shoes by somebody else. That's why I would understand, if an officer said Nay. I would just try it and accept, whatever the decision is.

[+ScroogieII]

On 4/19/2021 at 6:46 AM, PISA-caching said:

 

That's why my answer would also rather be Yes, but on the other hand they were done with a bronze copy of the shoes by somebody else. That's why I would understand, if an officer said Nay. I would just try it and accept, whatever the decision is.

 

Be that as it may Andreas, she submitted it and I approved it. Couldn't see any reason not to.

Keith

[+sernikk]

Could someone help me out. Where can I fit Tram cars?

 

The closest I can get is "Static Train Cars" or "Permanent Car Displays", but neither of those seems to fit trams exactly. Is this a category gap?

 

Examples:

1) Serves currently as a tourist shop, but it is also a memorial that 100 years ago there were trams in this city (there is a plaque not far away)

 

 

2) Permanent display of a small, private collection of tram cars. Really cool by the way.

 

Edited June 10, 2021 by sernikk

[+fi67]

I am not an officer, but you can find several examples of trams in Static Train Cars.

[+jonathanatpsu]

I found something that I think is quite interesting, but I'm not sure if it will fit into any categories.  It's a cornerstone from an old Episcopal church which no longer exists.  The cornerstone is sitting in a gardern next to another Episcopal church.  I've done some research and found out that the church of the old cornerstone was originally about 10 blocks away from where it currently sits. 

 

I thought about the Dated Buildings and Cornerstones category, but in the description it says, "* Orphan Cornerstones: Sometimes an old cornerstone exists separate from a building, eg if the original building has been demolished. A waymark for such a cornerstone will be accepted if: It's publicly accessible; It's in the location of the original building; You can demonstrate (eg a photo of a plaque or a web link) that the cornerstone is original."  

 

So, the problem with this one is that it is not in the location of the original building.  Therefore, I assume it would be denied.  

 

Does anyone have any other ideas for categories where this might fit?  Thanks in advance!

[vulture1957]

I'd try Dated Architectural Structures Multifarious

 

[+ScroogieII]

5 hours ago, vulture1957 said:

I'd try Dated Architectural Structures Multifarious

 

 

And unfortunately I'd have to decline it. The cornerstone is simply a cut and dressed stone. In no way could I accept it as a "Structure". Sorry.

Keith

[+PISA-caching]

What about Preserved Architectural Remnants and Ruins?

 

"The Remnant or Ruin (or a part of it) should be on display outdoors. It may be part of a new building, mounted, or freestanding. The remnant or ruin does not have to be in its original location."

Edited July 2, 2021 by PISA-caching

[+jonathanatpsu]

Thank you for the feedback on this.  I looked at the Preserved Architectural Remnants and Ruins category, but noticed that it said:  "The Remnant or Ruin should be a preserved part of a man-made structure. It must provide an impression of part of the original building's architecture; a decoration, cornerstone, plaque, or small chunk of concrete is insufficient. If the Remnant does NOT provide some hint of the architecture, the waymark will be declined. If you have a cornerstone remnant, check this category. Your cornerstone might qualify there."  

 

The category they reference is the Dated Buildings and Cornerstones category.   So, despite the examples of cornerstones in this category provided above, it seems that according to the category description a conerstone alone won't work. 

 

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by jonathanatpsu

[+PISA-caching]

Too bad.

[+PISA-caching]

Lately I took photos of this plaque:

 

 

It's attached to a building that was once known as the "Ober-St. Veiter Casino". In 1893 the "Deutschmeistermarsch" of Wilhelm Jurek was publically performed here for the very first time. In 1953 (60 years later) this plaque was made. It's a very nice Relief. So that category would fit. First of its Kind also comes to mind. Any better idea?

[+Alfouine]

Community commemoration

[+PISA-caching]

3 hours ago, Alfouine said:

Community commemoration

 

You mean Commercial Commemorations, right?

[+Alfouine]

I do not understand German, but if it's commercial, yes

[+PISA-caching]

The text says: "On March 19, 1893, the Deutschmeister March by Wilhelm Jurek was played for the first time in the Ober-St. Veiter Casino."

 

Community Commemorations is - as far as I know - for anniversaries of cities, counties, etc.

And Commericial Commemorations is - more or less - for everything else. At least it says "this category will accept all anniversary markers and monuments that are not about a country, city, state, or other place.". So, I will try this category. Thanks for the hint.

 

I won't try Reliefs or First of its Kind though.

[+jonathanatpsu]

I recently came across a nice looking statue of a horse and am trying to figure out if it will fit in any categories.  I've included a couple of photos below.  My first thought was the Equestrian Statues category, but the description states that it must include a famous or historic person on a horse.  This statue is really focused on the famous horse, not the rider.   I then thought that perhaps the Fiberglass Horses category might accept it, even though it's not made of fiberglass.  But, the category description states, "Obvious bronze statues will not be accepted."  So, I'm wondering if this would fit in any other categories.  I appreciate everyone's help!  

[+PISA-caching]

"Animal Memorials" would be my first guess.

[+jonathanatpsu]

I was not even aware of the Animal Memorials category.  That looks like it will definitely work.  Thank you!

[+Alfouine]

Figurative public sculpture

[+ScroogieII]

On 7/6/2021 at 1:06 AM, PISA-caching said:

The text says: "On March 19, 1893, the Deutschmeister March by Wilhelm Jurek was played for the first time in the Ober-St. Veiter Casino."

 

Community Commemorations is - as far as I know - for anniversaries of cities, counties, etc.

And Commericial Commemorations is - more or less - for everything else. At least it says "this category will accept all anniversary markers and monuments that are not about a country, city, state, or other place.". So, I will try this category. Thanks for the hint.

 

I won't try Reliefs or First of its Kind though.

 

First Of Its Kind, Andreas.

For the most part, that category only needs the word "FIRST" (or an equivalent in another language) in the text of a plaque. Now the title - First Playing of the Deutschmeister March should do it. Of course, this is assuming that the plaque in question is AT the Ober-St. Veiter Casino. You indicate that IT IS, so go for it!!

 

One of three types of firsts accepted is this category:

"First Item or Event - as in "First Diesel Locomotive" or "First Hanging in the USA"

 

You should definitely be good to go with that category.

Keith

Edited July 29, 2021 by ScroogieII

[razalas]

14 minutes ago, T0SHEA said:

This monument is about the loss of life in a overturned pontoon boat. 

Not quite a ship wreak. I know about Citizen Memorial. What about the accident? Is there a category for this?

 

 

 

May 14, 1942
This monument is dedicated to the memory of the United States
 soldiers lost with the sinking of a US Corp of Engineers Pontoon Barge
 on  May 14, 1942 at Charlie Lake, British Columbia, Canada
 

 

 

Maybe in the "Disaster memorials" category?

[+iconions]

7 hours ago, T0SHEA said:

This monument is about the loss of life in a overturned pontoon boat. 

Not quite a ship wreak. I know about Citizen Memorial. What about the accident? Is there a category for this?

 

 

 

May 14, 1942
This monument is dedicated to the memory of the United States
 soldiers lost with the sinking of a US Corp of Engineers Pontoon Barge
 on  May 14, 1942 at Charlie Lake, British Columbia, Canada
 

 

I would also post  this under World War II Memorials.  This was part of the U.S. Army's efforts to build the Trans Alaska Highway during that war and this incident was the largest single loss of life that occurred.  It cannot go under Non Specific Veterans because only one war was involved.  Specific Veterans is out because multiple units were involved. This involved active duty Army personnel so the Citizen Memorial category would be out.  Hope this helps.

[+iconions]

19 hours ago, T0SHEA said:

 

Thank you for the suggestion. Charlie Lake Memorial

You are welcome.

[razalas]

On 8/1/2021 at 1:03 PM, T0SHEA said:

Thanks.

 

 

 

Glad I could help 

[+FamilieFrohne]

People named places comes to mind after your description. At least, if the plaque is at the mountain in question ...

[+QuesterMark]

There's a pedestrian bridge recently installed in Fort Worth, created by an artist and paid for by the City of Fort Worth Public Art Program.

https://fwpublicart.org/drift/

That picture is NOT mine, though I have my own to do the waymark with.

 

What category would this go in? It doesn't seem like a Hiking Path Footbridge, because it crosses a creek between two sidewalks in the middle of a residential section of town.

 

Any suggestions?

[+bluesnote]

2 hours ago, QuesterMark said:

There's a pedestrian bridge recently installed in Fort Worth, created by an artist and paid for by the City of Fort Worth Public Art Program.

https://fwpublicart.org/drift/

That picture is NOT mine, though I have my own to do the waymark with.

 

What category would this go in? It doesn't seem like a Hiking Path Footbridge, because it crosses a creek between two sidewalks in the middle of a residential section of town.

 

Any suggestions?

Abstract art or news story locations (if there is an article) off the top of my head.

[401Photos]

Because St. Joseph Cemetery Chapel  ( https://stjosephashtonri.org/st-joseph-cemetery ) includes spaces for 250 cremations in marble wall niches, it doesn't fit the requirements for "Cemetery Chapels" since the category states "no remains". It belongs to a Catholic parish half a mile north. Suggested categories? The cemetery itself has already been Waymarked in "Worldwide Cemeteries". "Religious Buildings Multifarious" appears to want places that host regularly scheduled worship services. Nice building, but I'm feeling stuck. Thanks!

[+iconions]

1 hour ago, 401Photos said:

Because St. Joseph Cemetery Chapel  ( https://stjosephashtonri.org/st-joseph-cemetery ) includes spaces for 250 cremations in marble wall niches, it doesn't fit the requirements for "Cemetery Chapels" since the category states "no remains". It belongs to a Catholic parish half a mile north. Suggested categories? The cemetery itself has already been Waymarked in "Worldwide Cemeteries". "Religious Buildings Multifarious" appears to want places that host regularly scheduled worship services. Nice building, but I'm feeling stuck. Thanks!

Since the building allows remains, this makes the building a mausoleum.  This is why, when I wrote the category description, I had to state that no remains could be in the chapel - mausoleums were already accepted.
 

[401Photos]

Ah-ha. Thank you.

 

Sometimes my vision and brain get scrambled trying to filter through the list of categories and remember what is what! I completely missed seeing that category. I'll give it a shot.

[401Photos]

3 hours ago, T0SHEA said:

 

Do you mean the Historic St. Joseph Church?

Yep -- that's the one! I haven't been inside yet.

Edited August 25, 2021 by 401Photos

[+Outspoken1]

OK, I have had this Cenotaph for a couple of years. It is in Denver, Colorado. Where does a cenotaph go? NOTE: I saw the category for Canadian Cenotaphs - but that won't work.)

 

 

[+Outspoken1]

IOOF Memorial - again what category. Does not go in IOOF because it is not a lodge. It does not commemorate an anniversary, so it does not go in Commercial Commemorations. Arrgghh!

 

[+PISA-caching]

The category description of "Odd Fellow Lodges" says: "The goal is to find and photograph Odd Fellows lodges, as well as any homes, encampments, grave yards, or other affiliated locations."

 

Edited September 6, 2021 by PISA-caching

[+PISA-caching]

On 9/4/2021 at 9:21 PM, Outspoken1 said:

OK, I have had this Cenotaph for a couple of years. It is in Denver, Colorado. Where does a cenotaph go? NOTE: I saw the category for Canadian Cenotaphs - but that won't work.)

 

 

There is no general answer for that. I guess it depends on which group of persons the cenotaph is for. One possible category would be Citizen Memorials of course. Or one of the War categories in the Monuments department. Further details would be helpful.

[Becktracker]

In front of the city hall of Bergen of Zoom I found a cool plaque with the inscription: D'historie/van deez'plaats/mag Bergen leren:/laat eigen vrijheid/nooit/in 't Tegendeel/verkeren (From the history of this place Bergen may learn; let liberty never become the opposite). The plaque has been placed at the location of the Liberty tree, which has been erected of the occasion of the French revolution in 1795. It has been placed by the Tafelronde, the Dutch branch of The International Order of the Round Table. Enough cool elements but what is the best fit for this waymark?

[+bluesnote]

You can try the Smithsonian inventory if it's listed there. When all else fails, try the relief art sculpture category. At least it'll go somewhere. IOOF should accept these as they have in the past. You might also want to try the citizen memorials category. If this is not a grave, I will approve it there.