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16 minutes ago, CAVinoGal said:

 

Update: I just submitted the winery for review, so we'll see if I can use previous tastings to rate my top 2 wines - I explained all that in a private note at submission.  

 

I'm still trying to figure out what other category (categories) it would fit into - the tasting room is a converted wine barrel, so appropriate and very unique.  And it's also the oldest winery in Lodi.  Is there a category for the oldest something?  I also have an idea for the largest of something - where do those kind of things go?

Like 99 said, Superlatives. Oldest, largest, etc.  But I can't find anything for the big barrel now tasting room. I don't think it really makes it as a building.

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1 hour ago, vulture1957 said:

Like 99 said, Superlatives. Oldest, largest, etc.  But I can't find anything for the big barrel now tasting room. I don't think it really makes it as a building.

Okay. Superlatives will work for Oldest, and Largest for another idea I have - but I need to get photos of the Largest.

 

The tasting room doesn't fit the description for a "building" category.  It's unique, as far as I can tell.  I love it - and I'll keep looking through categories and hope to find a place it will fit.  What is Uncategorized?  Just a place where you put stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else?  

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1 hour ago, CAVinoGal said:

What is Uncategorized?  Just a place where you put stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else?  

No no no. Uncategorised is where you can put waymarks that you can't figure out what category they fit in. Once you put it in uncategorised,  anyone can claim it put it in a category and then you both get credit. Avoid it at all costs. Unless you have a very specific plan with someone else. 😁

There are circumstances where it's a helpful feature but most of the time I would suggest avoiding it.  Just my opinion.

 

Here's what each one says: 

This waymark is incomplete. You can assist us by helping to categorize it.
Assign Category to this waymark

 

Under Waymarking FAQ: 

What if my waymark doesn't fit in a category?

To submit an uncategorized waymark click the Post a New Waymark link in the upper right of the home page, and simply leave the category dropdown on the waymark edit form blank. Because the waymark has no category it will live in its own queue with all of the other uncategorized waymarks, waiting to be categorized. Uncategorized waymarks serve as the core ingredients for regular waymarks and can be categorized by other waymarkers when a category is found that meets the location's description. A single uncategorized waymark can be made into any number of regular waymarks, provided each one meets the new category's requirements.

How do I categorize an uncategorized waymark?

First, view the uncategorized waymark's details and click the Assign Category to this waymark link at the top of the page. On the edit page choose the appropriate category from the dropdown menu and press the Select Category button. Assigning the category will insert category-specific questions for you to answer at the bottom of the edit page. Once these are filled in you can submit the new waymark and await Group review.

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Maybe Ginormous Everyday Objects?  A "regular" wine barrel is about 60 gallons, 3 feet tall.  This one is 50,000 gallons, and half the barrel is about 20-25 ft high but much bigger around.  I think it would qualify.

 

Update: Submitted.  We'll see how it goes.

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Anybody more savvy than I am about sculpture?  Freestanding Arches and Citizen Memorials accepted this bronze arch made up of stacked books.  Anywhere else this could go? 

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52 minutes ago, QuarrellaDeVil said:

Anybody more savvy than I am about sculpture?  Freestanding Arches and Citizen Memorials accepted this bronze arch made up of stacked books.  Anywhere else this could go? 

That is so cool! Maybe Realistic Objects category?

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11 minutes ago, Max and 99 said:

That is so cool! Maybe Realistic Objects category?

 

They don't want it.  "It's not an object, it's an arch."

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On 7/27/2020 at 5:43 PM, CAVinoGal said:

Update: I just submitted the winery for review, so we'll see if I can use previous tastings to rate my top 2 wines - I explained all that in a private note at submission.  

 

I'm still trying to figure out what other category (categories) it would fit into - the tasting room is a converted wine barrel, so appropriate and very unique.

Further update: Approved for Winery, Declined for Ginormous Objects, and suggested I try Odd Shaped Buildings.  So I made some adjustments as suggested for Ginormous and re-submitted, and also submitted for Odd-Shaped Buildings.  We'll see....  other ideas?

 

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2 hours ago, CAVinoGal said:

other ideas?

Are you trying for a Lucky 7?

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8 hours ago, Max and 99 said:

Are you trying for a Lucky 7?

I don't think I'll make it to 7; I might get 4.  It was approved for Odd-Shaped Buildings, waiting on Ginormous Objects, and I have to do more research for Oldest Winery.  That's only 4.  But the process of learning categories, requirements, multiple write ups for the same place but with a different take, it's been interesting!

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13 minutes ago, CAVinoGal said:

I don't think I'll make it to 7; I might get 4.  It was approved for Odd-Shaped Buildings, waiting on Ginormous Objects, and I have to do more research for Oldest Winery.  That's only 4.  But the process of learning categories, requirements, multiple write ups for the same place but with a different take, it's been interesting!

Fair enough. But those are categories, not departments, which is what matters for a Lucky 7.

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15 minutes ago, Max and 99 said:

But those are categories, not departments, which is what matters for a Lucky 7.

Ahhh, that means there's even less of a chance I'll find 7 different places to waymark it.  Ginormous and Superlatives are both Oddities...

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5 minutes ago, CAVinoGal said:

Ahhh, that means there's even less of a chance I'll find 7 different places to waymark it.  Ginormous and Superlatives are both Oddities...

Sorry. But don't forget it doesn't have to be just one thing, like the winery. Any other close waymarks you have could potentially help. 

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18 minutes ago, Max and 99 said:

Sorry. But don't forget it doesn't have to be just one thing, like the winery. Any other close waymarks you have could potentially help. 

yes. look for Signs, do they have wi-fi (technology), history, recreation or parks, historical markers

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15 minutes ago, vulture1957 said:
35 minutes ago, Max and 99 said:

Sorry. But don't forget it doesn't have to be just one thing, like the winery. Any other close waymarks you have could potentially help. 

yes. look for Signs, do they have wi-fi (technology), history, recreation or parks, historical markers

 

It will require another trip to gather the needed info, if it's even in the realm of possibility.  That particular winery/area is an hour drive, usually on the way to someplace else!  We pass by to pick up wine for wherever we are headed.

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Commercial Commemorations

people = pioneer engineers 

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There is no category for this, a very old ads can be posted in Ghost sign

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57 minutes ago, Ariberna said:

This publicity tower can be in one cathegory?

It probably won't help you, but I've been able to post billboards like this in news articles and roadside attractions. But I do not know anything about the one in your photo. 

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On 7/31/2020 at 8:28 PM, CAVinoGal said:

Further update on my WIne Barrel tasting room: Approved for Winery, Declined for Ginormous Objects, and suggested I try Odd Shaped Buildings.  So I made some adjustments as suggested for Ginormous and re-submitted, and also submitted for Odd-Shaped Buildings.  We'll see.... 

 

Approved in Odd-Shaped buildings, declined a second time for Ginormous with the following comments: So it's published in two categories, and I need more documentation for Superlatives if it actally would work there.  It doesn't seem that it's going to work in Ginormous.

 

[nay] A barrel with a roof is not an object, it's a house.

[nay] Again, it's just not ginormous enough in my opinion.

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11 hours ago, CAVinoGal said:

 

Approved in Odd-Shaped buildings, declined a second time for Ginormous with the following comments: So it's published in two categories, and I need more documentation for Superlatives if it actally would work there.  It doesn't seem that it's going to work in Ginormous.

 

[nay] A barrel with a roof is not an object, it's a house.

[nay] Again, it's just not ginormous enough in my opinion.

the category descriptions says it should be measured in stories. I took that as meaning more than 1 story high, to be ginormous. It looks to me to be only about 1 story high. And, it is a big barrel, but it was built as a big barrel. So barrels ARE built that big.

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On 8/1/2020 at 2:26 PM, T0SHEA said:

Interesting plaque. Ideas?

 

 

 

 

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That's a citizen's memorial if ever I saw one.

Keith

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Ever have your nice walk totally deflated?  I'd read about her disappearance and discovery so many years later, but this memorial at the University of Texas really drove it home.  Doesn't look like it's a go for Citizen Memorials or any of the sculpture categories, so if there's interest somewhere, holler.  I won't say "enjoy," but rather, "appreciate."

 

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When we visited Belgrade, Serbia I noticed this interesting bench, that was made to remember an old tree that is no longer there:

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It has yet to be accepted in the Artistic Seating category. The trunk is a copy of the original trunk of the tree, but in bronze. They used the wood of the original tree too to create this bench.

Now is that also a Realistic Object Sculpture? In this case the trunk is the object, but I would rather have your opinion before trying it.

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Artistic seating is the right category, if it was only a trunk you could submit it in realistic object scultpure.

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It was declined in Artistic Seating, because "This isn't artistic enough for this category. Sorry." :( This is one of the decisions that I don't understand (especially when I look at some other "artistic" seatings in that category), but accept.

 

Now, if it isn't artistic enough for the Artistic Seating category and will not fit in the Realistic Object Sculptures category, which category should I try next?

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On 9/27/2020 at 11:33 PM, PISA-caching said:

The trunk is a copy of the original trunk of the tree, but in bronze. They used the wood of the original tree too to create this bench.

 

"Exact Replicas"

 

 
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In our daily travels we often see exact replicas of known art, buildings and other structures, sometimes in full size, sometimes in miniature. The replica may be thousands of miles away from the original but sometimes, seeing an exact copy can be almost as good as the real thing.


A place to log locations of exact replicas of known or famous statues, sculptures, paintings, landmarks and structures, etc. If the items are not as well known, but are specific to or "famous" in your region, please include them as well. The replica should be permanent to its location or part of a permanent installation. The replica can be full size or a miniature version of the original. This category can include replicas of items that are located in, or are part of, a museum collection. It will not include any object that can be purchased in a store. The proper definition of replica is a copy made by the person who made the original although it is now commonly used to refer to any copy. In this case any copy will suffice as long as it is an exact copy of the original.

 

 

https://www.Waymarking.com/cat/details.aspx?f=1&guid=f59a7a20-2c6d-4b2b-8144-55c380702733&exp=True

 

 

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49 minutes ago, Bear and Ragged said:

"Exact Replicas"

What kind of documentation would be required for this exact replica bench? 

My waymark was declined even though it had a plaque that stated it was an exact replica. I didn't see any documentation in the post but maybe it's on site, near the bench. 

I think it's a very cool artistic seating! 

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I also thought about Exact Replicas, but it is the replica of a tree stump and they are looking for "replicas of known art, buildings and other structures". Additionally, the "Instructions for Posting a Exact Replicas Waymark" says:

 

1. Only exact replicas of "known" or "famous" items will be accepted. The originals must be man-made and need to have some kind of history behind them.

 

So, since the tree was natural, I doubt that they will accept it there.

 

BTW, at least the infoboard of the tree was accepted: https://www.Waymarking.com/waymarks/WM136C5 and it's my first waymark in that category. Hooray!

 

PS: Yes, Max, a very cool artistic seating, but not "artistic enough for this category". :unsure:

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Andreas, I take it that you haven't submitted it to Realistic Object Sculptures as yet. I would at least give that a shot before giving up. What's the worst that can happen?

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On ‎10‎/‎4‎/‎2020 at 9:37 AM, ScroogieII said:

Andreas, I take it that you haven't submitted it to Realistic Object Sculptures as yet. I would at least give that a shot before giving up. What's the worst that can happen?

 

Well, there is an example in the description of that category, that says: If the object (in my case the tree stomp) is part of a bigger sculpture (in my case the bench), it will not be accepted. I totally understand that, because it is hard to make a limit then. The only 100 % option I now see is the Wikipedia category, because there is a Wikipedia entry for the bench.

 

Edited to add: If Alfouine (who is one of the officers of the Realistic Object Sculptures category) says, that it doesn't fit in their category, I won't make him the trouble of denying it.

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1 hour ago, PISA-caching said:

 

Well, there is an example in the description of that category, that says: If the object (in my case the tree stomp) is part of a bigger sculpture (in my case the bench), it will not be accepted. I totally understand that, because it is hard to make a limit then.

 

Yes that's the problem, and the other problem is that is a real artistic bench, sometimes you can ask officer to call for a vote if you disagree his opinion.

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15 hours ago, Alfouine said:

 

Yes that's the problem, and the other problem is that is a real artistic bench, sometimes you can ask officer to call for a vote if you disagree his opinion.

 

You mean, I could resubmit it to the Artistic Seating category and ask for a call for a vote? Well, I would get one "No" for sure and there aren't that many officers in that category. So chances are slim and I don't think that I want to waste their and my time. Besides, the bench was already accepted in the Wiki category.

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Another category just came to my mind: "Superlatives". Because this bench is the first (if not only) monument (in Serbia), that is commemorating a plant.

 

And what about "Dedicated Benches"? The description says "The bench must have a plaque that honors someone or something in order to qualify for this category." There is a (separate) plaque and it honors something (the old tree). I wonder what the officers think.

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PISA-Caching... Artistic Seating looked to me as a long shot. The idea is cool, but I see no art there. I understand both, your attempt and the officer's declination. I believe there is a shady area in Waymarking where nobody is right or wrong, and this is a good example of it :-)

 

This said, the category in which I am officer, "Best Kept Secrets", would work for that, considering its description:

 

"Do you know of some place in your town or neighborhood that is unknown to most of the locals and that you would like to share with the Waymarking community? A place with a great view, an interesting artifact, or the location of some event that is of interest to the general public. We want the visitors to exclaim, "Wow! I didn't know this was here."

 

"A Best Kept Secret is a waymark that shows off a place that most people don't know about but has enough general interest for most people to want to visit and find out more about it. These are the places we think made the very best virtual geocaches. And like virtual geocaches, visitors are expected to provide verification of their visit – usually by finding answers to question that can only be answered by visiting the site."

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5 hours ago, Torgut said:

PISA-Caching... Artistic Seating looked to me as a long shot. The idea is cool, but I see no art there. I understand both, your attempt and the officer's declination. I believe there is a shady area in Waymarking where nobody is right or wrong, and this is a good example of it :-)

 

This said, the category in which I am officer, "Best Kept Secrets", would work for that, considering its description:

 

"Do you know of some place in your town or neighborhood that is unknown to most of the locals and that you would like to share with the Waymarking community? A place with a great view, an interesting artifact, or the location of some event that is of interest to the general public. We want the visitors to exclaim, "Wow! I didn't know this was here."

 

"A Best Kept Secret is a waymark that shows off a place that most people don't know about but has enough general interest for most people to want to visit and find out more about it. These are the places we think made the very best virtual geocaches. And like virtual geocaches, visitors are expected to provide verification of their visit – usually by finding answers to question that can only be answered by visiting the site."

 

Great idea.

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11 hours ago, Torgut said:

PISA-Caching... Artistic Seating looked to me as a long shot. The idea is cool, but I see no art there. I understand both, your attempt and the officer's declination. I believe there is a shady area in Waymarking where nobody is right or wrong, and this is a good example of it :-)

 

This said, the category in which I am officer, "Best Kept Secrets", would work for that, considering its description:

 

"Do you know of some place in your town or neighborhood that is unknown to most of the locals and that you would like to share with the Waymarking community? A place with a great view, an interesting artifact, or the location of some event that is of interest to the general public. We want the visitors to exclaim, "Wow! I didn't know this was here."

 

"A Best Kept Secret is a waymark that shows off a place that most people don't know about but has enough general interest for most people to want to visit and find out more about it. These are the places we think made the very best virtual geocaches. And like virtual geocaches, visitors are expected to provide verification of their visit – usually by finding answers to question that can only be answered by visiting the site."

 

Well, the art is, that somebody has the idea to recreate the tree stomp out of bronze metal and transform it to a bench using the rest of the wood that is still usable. Then you need someone who is able to do it. You need someone who is able to dig out the tree stomp, make a form, create a big bronze tree stomp, make it look like wood and create a bench from the rest of the wood. This is by far more art then to take a regular bench, paint 2 birds and 3 clouds on it and call it an artistic seating. Even I could do that, but I wouldn't have the idea or the know-how to create that bronze bench. And if they asked an artistic sculptor to make a monument to commemorate this old tree, who am I to say it is not art. Anyway, enough of it.

 

Your idea is great, but I'm not a local, so I am not sure, if the bench is really a secret (remember, it even has its own Wikipedia page), but we'll see. Thanks for the idea. I will think about it.

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45 minutes ago, PISA-caching said:

 

Well, the art is, that somebody has the idea to recreate the tree stomp out of bronze metal and transform it to a bench using the rest of the wood that is still usable. Then you need someone who is able to do it. You need someone who is able to dig out the tree stomp, make a form, create a big bronze tree stomp, make it look like wood and create a bench from the rest of the wood. This is by far more art then to take a regular bench, paint 2 birds and 3 clouds on it and call it an artistic seating. Even I could do that, but I wouldn't have the idea or the know-how to create that bronze bench. And if they asked an artistic sculptor to make a monument to commemorate this old tree, who am I to say it is not art. Anyway, enough of it.

 

Your idea is great, but I'm not a local, so I am not sure, if the bench is really a secret (remember, it even has its own Wikipedia page), but we'll see. Thanks for the idea. I will think about it.

I really like your reasoning here. Makes a strong argument to be in some kind of art category.

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