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You might try coord.info.

That kicks me right back to "www.geocaching.com". The blacklist seems to thwart any URL that starts with "www.geocaching.com" (so it's doing it's thing correctly), and even the direct IP address. I guess that some places that have a "back door" are not functioning right, and may get patched at any time. Just a guess.

 

So I wrote to Taco Bell and asked nicely. I didn't even point out to them the best part: Taco Bell is perfect for Geocachers, since I can order, run Pocket Queries, download Pocket Queries, send them to the GPSr, review all the day's caches and plan my route, and put everything away, before they finish making my taco. Cool! I even have time to clean the scum layer off the table so I can set my laptop there.

 

Two articles about free wifi availability:

http://www.techhive.com/article/2065601/how-to-find-free-wi-fi-during-your-holiday-travels.html

http://lifehacker.com/all-the-national-chains-that-offer-free-wi-fi-1646148637

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However, I ran the Geocaching App, and that seems to work fine through their wifi. You don't get everything that would be on a cache page, but the fact that the App works at Taco Bell, could rescue a caching trip.

The Geocaching App uses the API, which is accessed through api.Groundspeak.com, so it makes sense that it would work. Any API-powered software should work, which would include any approved app (the-app-that-shall-not-be-named wouldn't work), GSAK, Project-GC, etc.

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Here's the screen that appears. This is likely at any Taco Bell that has wifi. It's the official Taco Bell Wifi with an agreement screen and everything. I tried a couple of simple things like the direct IP address, but didn't change network settings.

 

If the previous replies are saying there's a way to use Geocaching.com from within Waymarking.com, posting the specific steps would be helpful.

 

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It says right on top that opendns thinks the site is bad, not taco bell. You have non-standard dns settings on your device.

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Easy fix, kind of... If Taco Bell does not block VPN, then just connect to a VPN and your issue is solved.

 

Getting a VPN is different story (google it) but I have a VPN in my home (I bought a router that has a built in VPN server) so when I go to Kuwait I can watch Netflix and other sites that they block over there.

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The problem of blocked websites is easily bypassed by following the instructions here. Make Google your DNS Server

 

I use it at RV parks I stay at that try to throttle my access.

That doesn't work on my Android tablet. Well, at least using the static DNS app I found (the Nexus DNS settings aren't available manually). It makes sense that the blacklist would include the Google DNS Server. It looks like Taco Bell blocks access to that.

 

The App has a handful of DNS Servers, and they all cause the same thing to happen, the OpenDNS fail screen. I can try it soon with my iPad or laptop.

 

Taco Bell does another a sneaky thing. When you pull up to the drive-through speaker, the guy immediately says "Welcome to Taco Bell, place your order whenever you're ready". But check it out, it's a recording! The next thing that heppened tonight was a lady said "Happy Holidays, I'm sorry Taco Bell is closed". And that's a recording, too!. Last night it said, "Welcome to Taco Bell, place your order whenever you're ready", followed immediately by "Our computers are down, we can't take orders at this time". If I ran Taco Bell, I'd have "You can't place and order" instead of "Place your order when ready". But I'm not a big fast-food franchise, so I'm sure they know what they're doing. :anicute:

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Post #42 has the explanation.

 

Log in to Waymarking, call up a waymark, and then click on list for Nearest Cache.

"Nearest Geocaches" sends you right back to www.geocaching.com. That site is blocked by Taco Bell. But if it works that way, some specially saved URL Favorites should also work. And no DNS server changes needed.

 

OK, I'm off to Taco Bell to test the browser again. :anicute:

I'll watch the results with interest, because this approach may be useful in other locations. I was in a shopping center parking lot and if I had a little more time and interest I would have tested it from in the car right outside Taco Bell. (The only way I would have gone inside is at gunpoint! :D )

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For better WIFI *and* better food, go to Whole Foods.

Nah, they are anti-2nd amendment.

The last thing I think about when choosing a store is whether i'm allowed to carry a gun inside. I'll grab and throw a can or box of food in an instant if self-defense is an issue. ;)

 

My point was the good wifi, which can be a factor. No back-door site-access needed there.

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The problem of blocked websites is easily bypassed by following the instructions here. Make Google your DNS Server

 

I use it at RV parks I stay at that try to throttle my access.

(the Nexus DNS settings aren't available manually).

 

Once you're connected to the TacoBell network go into Settings, Wifi, then long press the TB network, select "modify network", Advanced Options, change it from DHCP to static, leave the same IP address & gateway but change the DNS server addresses to the google ones 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4.

 

I just tried that on my Nexus 7 on my home network and it allows me to get to websites which are otherwise blocked by OpenDNS (which I use on my home network).

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Once you're connected to the TacoBell network go into Settings, Wifi, then long press the TB network, select "modify network", Advanced Options, change it from DHCP to static, leave the same IP address & gateway but change the DNS server addresses to the google ones 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4.

 

I just tried that on my Nexus 7 on my home network and it allows me to get to websites which are otherwise blocked by OpenDNS (which I use on my home network).

Thanks! That's were the setting is. I found it immediately on iPad, but Nexus 7 eluded me. Got it.

 

So I've verified that the Static IP App does what it's supposed to do, automatically change to whatever DNS I like. And Google DNS server is intercepted by Taco Bell's system. That's how it should work if it's a proper site blocker.

 

The Static DNS App includes these DNS providers, which are blocked at Taco Bell:

 

Google Public DNS

Comodo Secure DNS

Norton ConnectSafe DNS

OpenDNS

FreeDNS Array (the App writer's server, and it's down)

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Another thing to try might be to add a local host entry on your maching mapping www.geocaching.com to 63.251.163.200, then it would never need to go to DNS to lookup the geocaching.com addresses, I think you need a rooted Android to do that, no idea about the Apple devices.

I had to do something like that on my PC one time. Maybe future tests should be with my laptop.

 

If I enter the www.geocaching.com IP address directly, it gets blocked.

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Here's the screen that appears. This is likely at any Taco Bell that has wifi. It's the official Taco Bell Wifi with an agreement screen and everything. I tried a couple of simple things like the direct IP address, but didn't change network settings.

 

If the previous replies are saying there's a way to use Geocaching.com from within Waymarking.com, posting the specific steps would be helpful.

 

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It says right on top that opendns thinks the site is bad, not taco bell. You have non-standard dns settings on your device.

 

No, this means the company OpenDNS provides wifi services for Taco bell, and Geocaching.com is one of the websites they block. If a representative of the Frog doesn't think their site should be blocked, they need to contact that company. It was easy to find, I figured it would just be there at opendns.com, and it was.

 

You didn't think I was just going to let this thread drift off to page 2, did you? :laughing:

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OpenDNS provides wifi services for Taco bell, and Geocaching.com is one of the websites they block. If a representative of the Frog doesn't think their site should be blocked, they need to contact that company.

Yes. I read a little about how OpenDNS works. It's designed so any household can block entire categories with ease. https://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/parental-controls/

The Network Administrator logs into the "Dashboard" and adds categories that OpenDNS has compiled (for example, block "games", done).

 

The Admin may also go to a category and add a single domain to "the Never Block list". This may be what Taco Bell could do, but I can't tell if would be something each store must do. Wild guess, a tech company installed all the routers and set them all up the same. If there is one OpenDNS "Taco Bell" account, we're golden.

 

I wrote to ask already. Suppose they say, yeah, we love Geocachers. They get their tech gurus to log into OpenDNS and do a Never Block of "www.geocaching.com", and everybody's happy. Note that their wifi is mostly set up so that you may use their App to place an order. That's right, place an order any time today, and when you arrive, tap "I'm here", and get your order. Anyway, their business model is not even specifically about "wifi access". So if they do go out of their way to unblock Geocaching, that's one amazingly responsive company.

 

You didn't think I was just going to let this thread drift off to page 2, did you? :laughing:

What a relief! We've been very worried about that possibility. :anicute:

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OpenDNS provides wifi services for Taco bell, and Geocaching.com is one of the websites they block. If a representative of the Frog doesn't think their site should be blocked, they need to contact that company.

Yes. I read a little about how OpenDNS works. It's designed so any household can block entire categories with ease. https://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/parental-controls/

The Network Administrator logs into the "Dashboard" and adds categories that OpenDNS has compiled (for example, block "games", done).

 

The Admin may also go to a category and add a single domain to "the Never Block list". This may be what Taco Bell could do, but I can't tell if would be something each store must do. Wild guess, a tech company installed all the routers and set them all up the same. If there is one OpenDNS "Taco Bell" account, we're golden.

 

I wrote to ask already. Suppose they say, yeah, we love Geocachers. They get their tech gurus to log into OpenDNS and do a Never Block of "www.geocaching.com", and everybody's happy. Note that their wifi is mostly set up so that you may use their App to place an order. That's right, place an order any time today, and when you arrive, tap "I'm here", and get your order. Anyway, their business model is not even specifically about "wifi access". So if they do go out of their way to unblock Geocaching, that's one amazingly responsive company.

 

You didn't think I was just going to let this thread drift off to page 2, did you? :laughing:

What a relief! We've been very worried about that possibility. :anicute:

 

Well, let us know how you make out. This thread needed to be bumped. This thread should go on for all of 2105, and go to like 20 pages. Is the OP really going to boycott Taco Bell over this? Not me man. Taco Bell is awesome. Taco Bell could murder Kittens, and I still wouldn't boycott them. :blink:

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OK, about the suggestion a couple of replies ago to change the HOSTS file to geocaching.com and its IP address, so that the computer looks up the DNS, not relying on the Internet DNS Server. A site blocker worth its salt would block that, too, of course. As I already tested, entering the IP address directly in a web browser doesn't work. So changing the HOSTS file to enter the IP address for me, well that seems like exactly the same thing, only much harder to set up. And it was. What a chore. You may edit the HOSTS file if setting up a web domain to test stuff, but otherwise, it's not something for everybody to play around with. Oh well, I had not actually tried that specific thing, so as long as it works, it wasn't a complete waste of time, right? I tried it this evening, and here are the results: It doesn't work.

 

And Taco Bell is out of lettuce. The sacrifices I make for you people. Sheesh. :anicute:

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Here's the screen that appears. This is likely at any Taco Bell that has wifi. It's the official Taco Bell Wifi with an agreement screen and everything. I tried a couple of simple things like the direct IP address, but didn't change network settings.

 

If the previous replies are saying there's a way to use Geocaching.com from within Waymarking.com, posting the specific steps would be helpful.

 

2pyooau.jpg

It says right on top that opendns thinks the site is bad, not taco bell. You have non-standard dns settings on your device.

The next to last line of the message says that TB blocked the site. OpenDNS allows account holders to configure the DNS to suit their needs, which is what TB has done. The user may have changed the default DNS settings on his device but that doesn't make them non-standard.

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Here's the screen that appears. This is likely at any Taco Bell that has wifi. It's the official Taco Bell Wifi with an agreement screen and everything. I tried a couple of simple things like the direct IP address, but didn't change network settings.

 

If the previous replies are saying there's a way to use Geocaching.com from within Waymarking.com, posting the specific steps would be helpful.

 

2pyooau.jpg

It says right on top that opendns thinks the site is bad, not taco bell. You have non-standard dns settings on your device.

The next to last line of the message says that TB blocked the site. OpenDNS allows account holders to configure the DNS to suit their needs, which is what TB has done.

 

A few people have made the assumption that someone at TB is managing the blacklist or accessing OpenDNS. For a company as large as Taco Bell I find it more likely that TB contracted with some internet service provider to make "free wifi" available for their locations, and it's the ISP that is managing the OpenDNS configuration as part of the service they're providing to TB. Someone at TB may have stipulated that they want to restrict access such that patrons can't view porn or play online games, and the ISP is just using a solution (OpenDNS) which allows them to do that.

 

 

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Here's the screen that appears. This is likely at any Taco Bell that has wifi. It's the official Taco Bell Wifi with an agreement screen and everything. I tried a couple of simple things like the direct IP address, but didn't change network settings.

 

If the previous replies are saying there's a way to use Geocaching.com from within Waymarking.com, posting the specific steps would be helpful.

 

2pyooau.jpg

It says right on top that opendns thinks the site is bad, not taco bell. You have non-standard dns settings on your device.

The next to last line of the message says that TB blocked the site. OpenDNS allows account holders to configure the DNS to suit their needs, which is what TB has done.

 

A few people have made the assumption that someone at TB is managing the blacklist or accessing OpenDNS. For a company as large as Taco Bell I find it more likely that TB contracted with some internet service provider to make "free wifi" available for their locations, and it's the ISP that is managing the OpenDNS configuration as part of the service they're providing to TB. Someone at TB may have stipulated that they want to restrict access such that patrons can't view porn or play online games, and the ISP is just using a solution (OpenDNS) which allows them to do that.

 

I fully agree. By saying TB blocked the the site, I meant their IT dept (internal or contracted) and that it wasn't initiated by OpenDNS, as was suggested in, "opendns thinks the site is bad."

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I think someone should email taco bell headquarters and give them a link to these forums and this thread.

 

I'm sure they have no idea what sites they've blocked, and that they're upsetting a group from a family-friendly game.

 

I don't eat Taco Bell anyway, so I guess I don't care so much.

 

http://www.tacobell.com/feedback

 

You would get more results letting them know how you feel than us. But it's good to let us know so everyone can email them. Best results that way.

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Here's the screen that appears. This is likely at any Taco Bell that has wifi. It's the official Taco Bell Wifi with an agreement screen and everything. I tried a couple of simple things like the direct IP address, but didn't change network settings.

 

If the previous replies are saying there's a way to use Geocaching.com from within Waymarking.com, posting the specific steps would be helpful.

 

2pyooau.jpg

It says right on top that opendns thinks the site is bad, not taco bell. You have non-standard dns settings on your device.

The next to last line of the message says that TB blocked the site. OpenDNS allows account holders to configure the DNS to suit their needs, which is what TB has done.

 

A few people have made the assumption that someone at TB is managing the blacklist or accessing OpenDNS. For a company as large as Taco Bell I find it more likely that TB contracted with some internet service provider to make "free wifi" available for their locations, and it's the ISP that is managing the OpenDNS configuration as part of the service they're providing to TB. Someone at TB may have stipulated that they want to restrict access such that patrons can't view porn or play online games, and the ISP is just using a solution (OpenDNS) which allows them to do that.

 

I fully agree. By saying TB blocked the the site, I meant their IT dept (internal or contracted) and that it wasn't initiated by OpenDNS, as was suggested in, "opendns thinks the site is bad."

 

Okay, I just submitted a comment saying that I want geocaching.com on wifi at all taco bell stores.

 

Don't say I never did nothin' for ya.

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Here's the screen that appears. This is likely at any Taco Bell that has wifi. It's the official Taco Bell Wifi with an agreement screen and everything. I tried a couple of simple things like the direct IP address, but didn't change network settings.

 

If the previous replies are saying there's a way to use Geocaching.com from within Waymarking.com, posting the specific steps would be helpful.

 

2pyooau.jpg

It says right on top that opendns thinks the site is bad, not taco bell. You have non-standard dns settings on your device.

The next to last line of the message says that TB blocked the site. OpenDNS allows account holders to configure the DNS to suit their needs, which is what TB has done.

 

A few people have made the assumption that someone at TB is managing the blacklist or accessing OpenDNS. For a company as large as Taco Bell I find it more likely that TB contracted with some internet service provider to make "free wifi" available for their locations, and it's the ISP that is managing the OpenDNS configuration as part of the service they're providing to TB. Someone at TB may have stipulated that they want to restrict access such that patrons can't view porn or play online games, and the ISP is just using a solution (OpenDNS) which allows them to do that.

 

I fully agree. By saying TB blocked the the site, I meant their IT dept (internal or contracted) and that it wasn't initiated by OpenDNS, as was suggested in, "opendns thinks the site is bad."

 

Okay, I just submitted a comment saying that I want geocaching.com on wifi at all taco bell stores.

 

Don't say I never did nothin' for ya.

 

Good work! We've been talking and you've been working!

 

As far as this "blame it on IT" viewpoint, I say, if Taco Bell likes IT, and IT dislikes Geocaching, then Taco Bell dislikes Geocaching.

 

Well, we're destined for a third page. As was said on page 1, "crazy, just crazy!" :D

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The Delaware-sized methane cloud over New Mexico has become an increasing cause for concern and a point of contention among environmentalists and energy companies.

I see that there are several Taco Bells near Albuquerque.

 

I'm not saying these facts are related - and I ain't saying they're not related. :laughing:

 

And I don't know the Internet policies in the Albuquerque stores.

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The web page gave no reason for the block. I think that they just have their heads where the sun don't shine.

Either way they don't have my business any more.

 

I'm not sure why you'd pay them to get runny stools anyway, unless you really just needed to clean out the ol' insides. :P

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Maybe Taco Bell are fed up with LPC's in their parking lots. :anitongue:

That's shortsighted for business. Once people are in the parking lot a % will come in and buy. (I'm not in that %, as you may already have figured out! :D )

 

We have 1 Taco Bell in my town and there is (or at least was) a LPC cache in the parking lot. However, that parking lot serves other businesses as well, including a Five Guys. When I found that LPC I parked closer to the Taco Bell but my business went to Five Guys.

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Coincidentally ... I'm hanging out in a Taco Bell this morning doing some work (Brighton, MI). They have an Internet filter in place, but it's configured differently. I can access geocaching.com just fine (just logged my daily find) as well as the forums. But I can't access a lot of other sites --- games, streaming radio, streaming video (though YouTube is okay), and so on.

 

Of course, they're using a different filtering service: FortiGuard.

 

So I doubt this is a national Taco Bell policy; probably more of a question for one's local establishment. :)

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So I doubt this is a national Taco Bell policy; probably more of a question for one's local establishment. :)

I hope it doesn't require asking at each store. The employees at the local Taco Bell can't even figure out how make what I order. Maybe that's not their strong suit. Yeah, I'm confident they have a gift for Internet portal programming.

 

At least two people have contacted Taco Bell using the official web site, and when I filled it out, I specified the store (it's selectable). So, assuming Taco Bell isn't the typical faceless corporation who never responds to a guy asking for a feature (are there such corporations! :ph34r:), at least one store may have GC available for a while. The fact that I've received no reply isn't encouraging. But if the web filter is quietly removed at some point, I'll post the joyful news. We will all be glad when the OP can return to feast on that delicious Taco Bell fare once again.

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So I doubt this is a national Taco Bell policy; probably more of a question for one's local establishment. :)

 

Given how much time people have been researching this issue I'm surprised that nobody has found this:

 

Taco Bell and indoorDIRECT to Bring the Restaurant Entertainment Network to all 5,600 Taco Bell Restaurants

 

"Taco Bell Corp. and Indoor Direct, Inc., owner of The Restaurant Entertainment Network, have reached a long-term agreement to be the first to install in-store television network and free Wi-Fi solutions in all 5,600 Taco Bell locations throughout the United States."

 

The link for the indoordirect.com gives a web page not found error.

 

 

 

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Maybe Taco Bell are fed up with LPC's in their parking lots. :anitongue:

That would explain the one we found last week in a Taco Bell parking lot. The hint said it was not a LPC, and the skirt was not moveable. The cache was in a tree next to the lamp post. :laughing:

 

I'll feel vindicated at this mentioning.

 

So it was not an actual LPC, but perhaps a case of a happy yew near. :ph34r:

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So I doubt this is a national Taco Bell policy; probably more of a question for one's local establishment. :)

 

Given how much time people have been researching this issue I'm surprised that nobody has found this:

 

Taco Bell and indoorDIRECT to Bring the Restaurant Entertainment Network to all 5,600 Taco Bell Restaurants

 

"Taco Bell Corp. and Indoor Direct, Inc., owner of The Restaurant Entertainment Network, have reached a long-term agreement to be the first to install in-store television network and free Wi-Fi solutions in all 5,600 Taco Bell locations throughout the United States."

 

The link for the indoordirect.com gives a web page not found error.

 

If you do a WHOIS lookup at who.is, it tells you the website indoordirect.com is "inactive". There are also tools there, and you get a 100% packet loss when you attempt to ping their ip.

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Maybe Taco Bell are fed up with LPC's in their parking lots. :anitongue:

That would explain the one we found last week in a Taco Bell parking lot. The hint said it was not a LPC, and the skirt was not moveable. The cache was in a tree next to the lamp post. :laughing:

 

I'll feel vindicated at this mentioning.

 

So it was not an actual LPC, but perhaps a case of a happy yew near. :ph34r:

 

Well, it was a micro with a very damp log that was full with not very good coordinates in a holly tree with stickers. I would have missed it if not for the hint. The best part of the experience was the pleasent workers and the food was good. B)

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So I doubt this is a national Taco Bell policy; probably more of a question for one's local establishment. :)

 

Given how much time people have been researching this issue I'm surprised that nobody has found this:

 

Taco Bell and indoorDIRECT to Bring the Restaurant Entertainment Network to all 5,600 Taco Bell Restaurants

 

"Taco Bell Corp. and Indoor Direct, Inc., owner of The Restaurant Entertainment Network, have reached a long-term agreement to be the first to install in-store television network and free Wi-Fi solutions in all 5,600 Taco Bell locations throughout the United States."

 

The link for the indoordirect.com gives a web page not found error.

 

If you do a WHOIS lookup at who.is, it tells you the website indoordirect.com is "inactive". There are also tools there, and you get a 100% packet loss when you attempt to ping their ip.

Right, so there's wifi. Many public wifi networks have limitations. Isn't that the issue?

 

By the way, how close are we to yet another page for this facinating topic? ;)

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By the way, how close are we to yet another page for this facinating topic? ;)

 

I reckon only another 6 to go.

 

Another way to bypass this might be to use a proxy or vpn, but if they're serious about blocking/filtering content they'll have those covered too.

 

BTW I've never even seen a Taco Bell (I'm in the UK), I wonder what I'm missing?

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BTW I've never even seen a Taco Bell (I'm in the UK), I wonder what I'm missing?

Not much. Even this thread is more interesting than the food at Taco Bell.

 

Just contributing to towards getting this thread to three pages. :P

 

--Larry

 

Don't think we've ever made it to Taco Bell but we did visit a KFC in Florida once looking for an evening snack and for some reason I'd expected it to be superior to those in the UK but it turned out to be such a dive that we turned around and walked out again.

 

I guess we should familiarise ourselves TB's cuisine though - given that

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My apologies if this is not *directly* on point, however, the scope of the thread seems to have broadened:

 

A Michigan chiropractor has been saving a Taco bell chicken taco and McDonald's cheeseburger with fries for years, and none of the items have appeared to rot.

 

Dr. Jaqueline Vaughn purchased the meals two years ago and put them on display in her office, Vaughn Chiropractic, in Waterford, Michigan.

 

No word on whether the doctor's office has WIFI that can access geocaching but *not* access Taco Bell! :D

 

More on point, I'm waiting to hear whether the Taco Bell corporate office responds to the letter about their Internet limits. However, their response will probably take weeks or months - not a high priority for them, I'm sure.

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BTW I've never even seen a Taco Bell (I'm in the UK), I wonder what I'm missing?

Not much. Even this thread is more interesting than the food at Taco Bell.

 

Just contributing to towards getting this thread to three pages. :P

 

--Larry

"Tex-Mex" (Texas-Mexican) fast food. Not authentic, according to the food gurus.

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Good grief, people! Do you really believe that Taco Bell actually hired somebody to go through the internet and create an entire list of Evil Empires to block from their WiFi? Would it not be MUCH more likely that some geeky innocent simply installed some generic blacklist (or whitelist) of sights that include a great many other sites that said geek had never heard of? Very likely it is a list that came with the WiFi router, for that matter. This is not the Evil Empire. False alarm. Please watch out for the Real Evil Empire.

 

Yes. Yes, I believe they did. But Pineda Tacos and Tavial Grill are much better anyway. And I have no idea if they have WiFi. Snarf.

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I went to Taco Bell today (the chicken wing place was too crowded), and now can connect to Geocaching.com just fine. Groundspeak.com, too. And I made some API calls. It worked so well, there just may be a new cache nearby soon. :anicute:

 

Anyway, this goes to show you the power of the people, when we work together to contact companies to get the job done. Or it shows what happens when we wait until Taco Bell buys a new router. One or the other. B)

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