+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Or should the rank of FTF be given out by a vote of other players? Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Troll post is trollish. Quote Link to comment
+thedeadpirate Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 FTF I was out reading the forums today and I got an instant notification that this thread had been started. I ran right out and opened the thread. TFTT TNLN Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Anyone can claim FTF. Whether everyone (or anyone ) else agrees with them is open to debate. MrsB Fourth To Filosophize. Quote Link to comment
ad5smith Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 i'm FTF since the last one lol Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Troll post is trollish. Never quite known the definition of a Troll, Care to enlighten me? Do I need to paint my hait green or orange? Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 (edited) a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community Ah...Found it...I guess I'm the middle one?? If I had posted that in the other FTF thred, then might I be the first one?? Edited February 27, 2010 by WRITE SHOP ROBERT Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Or should the rank of FTF be given out by a vote of other players? Perhaps a committee should be formed to determine if a vote is necessary. A poll should be taken to ensure the committee is created properly and someone should be appointed to do that by group consensus.. Quote Link to comment
+geodarts Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 (edited) I have signed a blank log as the original finder a couple hundred times or so but have never used these three initials. It seems self evident if anyone cares. Nothing to claim. Nothing to vote for. Certainly not worth a half dozen smileys and a Wah-hoo in a log. Edited February 27, 2010 by Erickson Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Or should the rank of FTF be given out by a vote of other players? Perhaps a committee should be formed to determine if a vote is necessary. A poll should be taken to ensure the committee is created properly and someone should be appointed to do that by group consensus.. Not to mention holding elections to determine who was the chairman of the committee and assign classes to insure that all members of the committee are familiar with Robert's Rules of Parliamentary Procedure. Quote Link to comment
+WRASTRO Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Or should the rank of FTF be given out by a vote of other players? Perhaps a committee should be formed to determine if a vote is necessary. A poll should be taken to ensure the committee is created properly and someone should be appointed to do that by group consensus.. Not to mention holding elections to determine who was the chairman of the committee and assign classes to insure that all members of the committee are familiar with Robert's Rules of Parliamentary Procedure. Point of order. Robert’s Rules of Order discuss the rules of parliamentary procedure. And I would suggest the publishers of said book would think we are a pack of lunatics for even discussing such banal topics as who is the real FTF. But we enjoy it so carry on! Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 (edited) (oops) Edited February 27, 2010 by Chrysalides Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Or should the rank of FTF be given out by a vote of other players? Perhaps a committee should be formed to determine if a vote is necessary. A poll should be taken to ensure the committee is created properly and someone should be appointed to do that by group consensus.. Not to mention holding elections to determine who was the chairman of the committee and assign classes to insure that all members of the committee are familiar with Robert's Rules of Parliamentary Procedure. Surely every geocacher knows this? Rule 52.6.3(e) : The FTF Approval Committee to be made up of no less than three Platinum members per geographical area (see Appendix XIX for Geographic Regions, Boundaries). If area has less than three Platinum mmbers, no FTFs will be awarded in that area. Any claim must be notarized and submitted in triplicate, together with photographic or video proof, with the required fee (See Appendix LXXIV for Fee Schedule). Fee is non-refundable and is forfeit if the claim is rejected. Quote Link to comment
+geodarts Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I had not heard about rule 52.6.3 and always assumed that the title could only be awarded if the cacher makes a pilgrimage to the Great Frog and signs his/her name in the sacred scroll of the FTF, where it can be permanently recorded beyond all controversy. Very few people have actually returned from that journey so it makes sense to have an alternate method. But I wonder if Keystone can waive the fee or does this power rest only with Jeremy? Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 FTF, can just anyone claim it? A worthy topic. I'm not sure of the answer to this deep question, but I'm am confident that just anyone can refuse to claim it. Quote Link to comment
+flask Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 anyone can claim anything, and they often do. someone once tried to confer a FTF on me, when i clearly hadn't been the firstfinder. it's not a juried award. you're either there first or you're not. having the cache owner declare "honors" on the cache page (crass, if you ask me) won't change reality. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Or should the rank of FTF be given out by a vote of other players? Personally, I'm in favor of a lottery. The way I see it, only a lottery would truely equalize the opportunity. I mean, just because I'm watching my favorite TV show when a cache comes out should not mean that I should lose all chances for that important FTF. Other things can come in play as well... I might be cooking dinner, sitting on the can, clipping my toenails, or just plain maybe not in the mood right now for going after some cache that was just published at a most inopportune time for me. Should I give up all of my rights for FTF just because I wasn't ready or in the mood? OF COURSE NOT!!! The lottery method is the only way to go. Quote Link to comment
+Gitchee-Gummee Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Ahhhh, what the heck. I'll just eat a pasty and not worry 'bout the FTF. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Ahhhh, what the heck. I'll just eat a pasty and not worry 'bout the FTF. I'd pass on an FTF for a pasty any day. (for those of you who are not from the U.P. but may vacation up there some time... that is prounced "paste-tee" (long "a"). Whatever you do, do not prounce it "pass-tee" or the locals will have a good laugh at your expense. Also, be sure to order it with gravy. If you can find a place that offers Mexican pasties or breakfast pasties... so much the better. I know one little secret hole-in-the-wall in Nissula, MI that offers them with fois gras and Italian white truffles. OK... sorry... what was the topic again? Quote Link to comment
+Jumpin' Jack Cache Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Ahhhh, what the heck. I'll just eat a pasty and not worry 'bout the FTF. I'd pass on an FTF for a pasty any day. (for those of you who are not from the U.P. but may vacation up there some time... that is prounced "paste-tee" (long "a"). Whatever you do, do not prounce it "pass-tee" or the locals will have a good laugh at your expense. Also, be sure to order it with gravy. If you can find a place that offers Mexican pasties or breakfast pasties... so much the better. I know one little secret hole-in-the-wall in Nissula, MI that offers them with fois gras and Italian white truffles. OK... sorry... what was the topic again? Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) OK... sorry... what was the topic again? Something about troll players in parliament vote whether FTF clams in G strings taste better than rank pasties. Edited February 28, 2010 by Chrysalides Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) As the newly appointed U.S. FTF Czar (I'm sure that President Obama will announce my appointment any day now... he assured me in last night's weekly mind-chat that he would make this a personal priority of his Presidency) I am hereby and forthwith requiring an FTF Permit for all geocachers wishing to claim an FTF. FTF claims made under a previously issued Provisional FTF Permit and all FTF claims made without a Provisional FTF Permit are hereby declared null and void. Provisional FTF Permits (only issued to Groundspeak Platinum Members) must be destroyed and replaced with the new FTF Permit before an FTF may be claimed from this date forward. FTF opportunities made available by the termination and cancellation of previous FTF claims will be awarded to the first geocacher claiming FTF on an unclaimed geocache who holds a valid FTF Permit. YOU MUST APPLY VIA EMAIL TO THEALABAMARAMBLER@GMAIL.COM IF: * You are applying for your first FTF Permit or * You are under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued when you were under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was lost, stolen, or damaged or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued more than 15 years ago or * Your name has changed since your Provisional FTF Permit was issued and you are unable to legally document your name change. Before You Start, Please Note: * Special Requirements for All Minors Under Age 46 * Special Requirements for All Minors Ages 12 & 17 * Special Requirements for Lackey, Moderator & Reviewer No-Fee FTF Permits STEPS TO SUBMITTING AN FTF PERMIT APPLICATION VIA EMAIL: Read and understand Steps 1-5. STEP 1: Complete and Submit E-Form GC-11: Application For An FTF Permit Complete Form GC-11: Application for an FTF Permit. To submit Form GC-11, you: * Must apply via email to an FTF Acceptance Facility or FTF Permit Agency * Must include the additional documentation required by Form GC-11 (See Steps 2-5) * Must provide your SSN, DOB and Bank Account Number(s) in accordance with 69 U.S.C. 6039E STEP 2: Submit Evidence of Groundspeak Membership When applying for an FTF Permit evidence of a current Groundspeak Free, Premium or Platinum Membership must be submitted with Form GC-11. A valid active geocaching.com username shall suffice as proof of an account. STEP 3: Present Identification When applying for an FTF Permit acceptable identification must be presented at the time of application. Primary Identification (One of the following): Previously issued, undamaged Provisional FTF Permit. Groundspeak Platinum Membership Certificate. Valid Driver's License. Current Geocacher ID (Groundspeak, city, state or federal). Current Military ID (military and dependents). NOTES: * If you cannot submit primary identification, please see Secondary Identification. * If you apply to an Acceptance Facility and submit out-of-state primary identification, you must present an additional ID document, as well. For example, if you apply in Maryland with a Virginia Driver's License, you must present additional ID. STEP 4: Submit a Scanned Image of the Identification Document presented (STEP 3) The scan must be of the ID document that you will present when you apply. * Scans must be printable on plain white, 8 1/2 x 11" standard paper stock, showing the front and the back of your ID * Scans must contain images displaying first the front of the ID and the second displaying the back of the ID. * The scan should be free of other images and/or markings. * You may enlarge the image of your ID, but you may not decrease the size of the image. Other situations that require a scanned image of identification, but are less common, include: * If you are presenting Secondary Identification, you must provide a scan of each document being presented with your application. * If you submit out-of-state primary identification, you must provide a scan of each additional identification document submitted with the primary ID. * An assistant to a disabled applicant who witnesses the signature or signs on the disabled customer's behalf must present a scan of his or her ID. * A person acting as an Identifying Witness must present a scan of his or her ID. STEP 5: Pay the Applicable Fee Submit the application fee of $15.00 to Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com STEP 6: Provide Two FTF Permit Photos We can help you submit clear and correctly exposed FTF Permit photos the first time - especially when applying for the FTF Permit Wallet Card. See Quality Requirements for FTF Permit & FTF Permit Wallet Card Photographs to avoid photo processing delays. Your Photographs Must Be: * Identical * In color * 2 x 2 inches in size * Taken within the past 6 months, showing current appearance * Full face, front view with a plain white or off-white background and clearly showing your GPS receiver alongside but not obscuring your face * Between 1 inch and 1 3/8 inches from the bottom of the chin to the top of the head * Taken in normal street attire: o Groundspeak Lackey Uniforms should not be worn in photographs except as religious attire that is worn daily o Do not wear a hat or headgear that obscures the hair or hairline o If you normally wear prescription glasses, a hearing device, wig or similar articles, they should be worn for your picture o Dark glasses or nonprescription glasses with tinted lenses are not acceptable unless you need them for medical reasons (a medical certificate may be required) NOTES: * Vending machine photos are not generally acceptable * See Digitized U.S. FTF Permit Photos for information on acceptable digital photos * Professional photographers see Guidelines for Producing High Quality Photographs for FTF Documents NEED AN FTF PERMIT IMMEDIATELY? You may expedite your FTF Permit Application by submitting a $50. Hurry Up And Do Your Job Fee to your Regional FTF Agency at Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com if: * The FTF Permit is needed in less than 2 weeks in order to beat out competing geocachers. * The FTF Permit is needed within 4 weeks to assert FTF CacheMaster Playa status in your local forum. Contact the National FTF Information Center to make an online contact appointment or locate an FTF Agency. Edited February 28, 2010 by TheAlabamaRambler Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 TAR is only in charge of U.S. FTF claims. I'm happy to announce that as FTF Overlord for the rest of the world, the procedure for you guys not in the U.S. is much easier. FTF for each geocache will be auctioned on eBay. To streamline matters, we'll be using my PayPal account to accept payments. Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 G Someone has a LOT of free time on their hands Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Ahhhh, what the heck. I'll just eat a pasty and not worry 'bout the FTF. I'd pass on an FTF for a pasty any day. (for those of you who are not from the U.P. but may vacation up there some time... that is prounced "paste-tee" (long "a"). Whatever you do, do not prounce it "pass-tee" or the locals will have a good laugh at your expense. Also, be sure to order it with gravy. If you can find a place that offers Mexican pasties or breakfast pasties... so much the better. I know one little secret hole-in-the-wall in Nissula, MI that offers them with fois gras and Italian white truffles. OK... sorry... what was the topic again? I love Tom Wait, but had never thought to look for his YouTube videos before... that was great! Thanks. OK... sorry... what was the topic again? Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 G Someone has a LOT of free time on their hands Nope, not free. Cheap, yes; free no. Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 As the newly appointed U.S. FTF Czar (I'm sure that President Obama will announce my appointment any day now... he assured me in last night's weekly mind-chat that he would make this a personal priority of his Presidency) I am hereby and forthwith requiring an FTF Permit for all geocachers wishing to claim an FTF. FTF claims made under a previously issued Provisional FTF Permit and all FTF claims made without a Provisional FTF Permit are hereby declared null and void. Provisional FTF Permits (only issued to Groundspeak Platinum Members) must be destroyed and replaced with the new FTF Permit before an FTF may be claimed from this date forward. FTF opportunities made available by the termination and cancellation of previous FTF claims will be awarded to the first geocacher claiming FTF on an unclaimed geocache who holds a valid FTF Permit. YOU MUST APPLY VIA EMAIL TO THEALABAMARAMBLER@GMAIL.COM IF: * You are applying for your first FTF Permit or * You are under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued when you were under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was lost, stolen, or damaged or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued more than 15 years ago or * Your name has changed since your Provisional FTF Permit was issued and you are unable to legally document your name change. Before You Start, Please Note: * Special Requirements for All Minors Under Age 46 * Special Requirements for All Minors Ages 12 & 17 * Special Requirements for Lackey, Moderator & Reviewer No-Fee FTF Permits STEPS TO SUBMITTING AN FTF PERMIT APPLICATION VIA EMAIL: Read and understand Steps 1-5. STEP 1: Complete and Submit E-Form GC-11: Application For An FTF Permit Complete Form GC-11: Application for an FTF Permit. To submit Form GC-11, you: * Must apply via email to an FTF Acceptance Facility or FTF Permit Agency * Must include the additional documentation required by Form GC-11 (See Steps 2-5) * Must provide your SSN, DOB and Bank Account Number(s) in accordance with 69 U.S.C. 6039E STEP 2: Submit Evidence of Groundspeak Membership When applying for an FTF Permit evidence of a current Groundspeak Free, Premium or Platinum Membership must be submitted with Form GC-11. A valid active geocaching.com username shall suffice as proof of an account. STEP 3: Present Identification When applying for an FTF Permit acceptable identification must be presented at the time of application. Primary Identification (One of the following): Previously issued, undamaged Provisional FTF Permit. Groundspeak Platinum Membership Certificate. Valid Driver's License. Current Geocacher ID (Groundspeak, city, state or federal). Current Military ID (military and dependents). NOTES: * If you cannot submit primary identification, please see Secondary Identification. * If you apply to an Acceptance Facility and submit out-of-state primary identification, you must present an additional ID document, as well. For example, if you apply in Maryland with a Virginia Driver's License, you must present additional ID. STEP 4: Submit a Scanned Image of the Identification Document presented (STEP 3) The scan must be of the ID document that you will present when you apply. * Scans must be printable on plain white, 8 1/2 x 11" standard paper stock, showing the front and the back of your ID * Scans must contain images displaying first the front of the ID and the second displaying the back of the ID. * The scan should be free of other images and/or markings. * You may enlarge the image of your ID, but you may not decrease the size of the image. Other situations that require a scanned image of identification, but are less common, include: * If you are presenting Secondary Identification, you must provide a scan of each document being presented with your application. * If you submit out-of-state primary identification, you must provide a scan of each additional identification document submitted with the primary ID. * An assistant to a disabled applicant who witnesses the signature or signs on the disabled customer's behalf must present a scan of his or her ID. * A person acting as an Identifying Witness must present a scan of his or her ID. STEP 5: Pay the Applicable Fee Submit the application fee of $15.00 to Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com STEP 6: Provide Two FTF Permit Photos We can help you submit clear and correctly exposed FTF Permit photos the first time - especially when applying for the FTF Permit Wallet Card. See Quality Requirements for FTF Permit & FTF Permit Wallet Card Photographs to avoid photo processing delays. Your Photographs Must Be: * Identical * In color * 2 x 2 inches in size * Taken within the past 6 months, showing current appearance * Full face, front view with a plain white or off-white background and clearly showing your GPS receiver alongside but not obscuring your face * Between 1 inch and 1 3/8 inches from the bottom of the chin to the top of the head * Taken in normal street attire: o Groundspeak Lackey Uniforms should not be worn in photographs except as religious attire that is worn daily o Do not wear a hat or headgear that obscures the hair or hairline o If you normally wear prescription glasses, a hearing device, wig or similar articles, they should be worn for your picture o Dark glasses or nonprescription glasses with tinted lenses are not acceptable unless you need them for medical reasons (a medical certificate may be required) NOTES: * Vending machine photos are not generally acceptable * See Digitized U.S. FTF Permit Photos for information on acceptable digital photos * Professional photographers see Guidelines for Producing High Quality Photographs for FTF Documents NEED AN FTF PERMIT IMMEDIATELY? You may expedite your FTF Permit Application by submitting a $50. Hurry Up And Do Your Job Fee to your Regional FTF Agency at Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com if: * The FTF Permit is needed in less than 2 weeks in order to beat out competing geocachers. * The FTF Permit is needed within 4 weeks to assert FTF CacheMaster Playa status in your local forum. Contact the National FTF Information Center to make an online contact appointment or locate an FTF Agency. Awesome! I was going to suggest that the special language dialect of "mumbo jumbo" be used, but I see someone beat me to it.. Quote Link to comment
+Scubasonic Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Or should the rank of FTF be given out by a vote of other players? Give me a break. Scubasonic Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share Posted March 1, 2010 Or should the rank of FTF be given out by a vote of other players? Give me a break. Scubasonic http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=242949 Quote Link to comment
+Simon Mates Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 A slightly different branch on this topic. My most recently published cache was first discovered by muggles that helped themselves to the cash prize contained therein. Though they were thoughtful enough to put the cache back where they found it, I reserve the honor of FTF to the Geocaching Member that located it by design and signed the log. Therefore, I hereby move the name of the honorary award be changed to FTS, First To Sign. Is there a 2nd (to the motion)? Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 12, 2010 Author Share Posted March 12, 2010 A slightly different branch on this topic. My most recently published cache was first discovered by muggles that helped themselves to the cash prize contained therein. Though they were thoughtful enough to put the cache back where they found it, I reserve the honor of FTF to the Geocaching Member that located it by design and signed the log. Therefore, I hereby move the name of the honorary award be changed to FTS, First To Sign. Is there a 2nd (to the motion)? Wow, they didn't even sign the log?? Quote Link to comment
+Matt_B_Good Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community Ah...Found it...I guess I'm the middle one?? If I had posted that in the other FTF thred, then might I be the first one?? So by that definition you cannot be a troll in the initial post that started a thread. Someone posting to insult you can be though so ironically that means the person who accused you of being a troll. Ironic huh? Quote Link to comment
+Matt_B_Good Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Usually it is pretty easy to determine who was the FTF. they may be the only finder of the day. A cache connected with an event is pretty hard though. i had a FTF on at least on such cache hoever by the time I logged it on the site i was like 100 post down. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 12, 2010 Author Share Posted March 12, 2010 a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community Ah...Found it...I guess I'm the middle one?? If I had posted that in the other FTF thred, then might I be the first one?? So by that definition you cannot be a troll in the initial post that started a thread. Someone posting to insult you can be though so ironically that means the person who accused you of being a troll. Ironic huh? extraneous: not forming an essential or vital part Some folks might think the whole topic is extraneous. That would make me a troll. Quote Link to comment
+WHO-DEY Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 every find is a FTF (first time finding)...so yes, anyone can claim it at anytime. Quote Link to comment
Mushtang Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) I reserve the honor of FTF to the Geocaching Member that located it by design and signed the log. However you justify it, or whatever you call it, you're still refusing to accept that the First person To Find the cache was the first person to find the cache. The muggle was FTF. Put that on your cache page, be pleased that the muggle will have as much fun spending the money as a cacher would have, and enjoy the rest of your day. Or, "reserve" some perceived honor by incorrectly saying that the second person to find the cache was actually the first person to find the cache, and enjoy the rest of your day. Edited March 12, 2010 by Mushtang Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) Troll post is trollish. Ironic post is ironic. Back on topic... I don't aknowledge FTF on my caches. They know who they are. I really don't care if you put on your stat page then you FTF'd my cache. It's all a non-issue for me. Edited March 12, 2010 by Castle Mischief Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I like the term "rank of FTF". Sounds distinctly militaristic. Do you get to wear a patch on your shoulder? Quote Link to comment
+Crash Gordon Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 You guys will love this cache: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...85-842fd15e1488 Everyone logs a FTF for it. I've got a log for it too. Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I like the term "rank of FTF". Sounds distinctly militaristic. Do you get to wear a patch on your shoulder? It actually refers to the distinct odor of someone who bolted out the door in a mad panic, dripping with perspiration and excitement.. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 I like the term "rank of FTF". Sounds distinctly militaristic. Do you get to wear a patch on your shoulder? It actually refers to the distinct odor of someone who bolted out the door in a mad panic, dripping with perspiration and excitement.. Yes, the ones who show up for work the next day having forgotten to shower, because they arrived at home at 3 in the morning. Quote Link to comment
zulutime Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 As the newly appointed U.S. FTF Czar (I'm sure that President Obama will announce my appointment any day now... he assured me in last night's weekly mind-chat that he would make this a personal priority of his Presidency) I am hereby and forthwith requiring an FTF Permit for all geocachers wishing to claim an FTF. FTF claims made under a previously issued Provisional FTF Permit and all FTF claims made without a Provisional FTF Permit are hereby declared null and void. Provisional FTF Permits (only issued to Groundspeak Platinum Members) must be destroyed and replaced with the new FTF Permit before an FTF may be claimed from this date forward. FTF opportunities made available by the termination and cancellation of previous FTF claims will be awarded to the first geocacher claiming FTF on an unclaimed geocache who holds a valid FTF Permit. YOU MUST APPLY VIA EMAIL TO THEALABAMARAMBLER@GMAIL.COM IF: * You are applying for your first FTF Permit or * You are under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued when you were under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was lost, stolen, or damaged or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued more than 15 years ago or * Your name has changed since your Provisional FTF Permit was issued and you are unable to legally document your name change. Before You Start, Please Note: * Special Requirements for All Minors Under Age 46 * Special Requirements for All Minors Ages 12 & 17 * Special Requirements for Lackey, Moderator & Reviewer No-Fee FTF Permits STEPS TO SUBMITTING AN FTF PERMIT APPLICATION VIA EMAIL: Read and understand Steps 1-5. STEP 1: Complete and Submit E-Form GC-11: Application For An FTF Permit Complete Form GC-11: Application for an FTF Permit. To submit Form GC-11, you: * Must apply via email to an FTF Acceptance Facility or FTF Permit Agency * Must include the additional documentation required by Form GC-11 (See Steps 2-5) * Must provide your SSN, DOB and Bank Account Number(s) in accordance with 69 U.S.C. 6039E STEP 2: Submit Evidence of Groundspeak Membership When applying for an FTF Permit evidence of a current Groundspeak Free, Premium or Platinum Membership must be submitted with Form GC-11. A valid active geocaching.com username shall suffice as proof of an account. STEP 3: Present Identification When applying for an FTF Permit acceptable identification must be presented at the time of application. Primary Identification (One of the following): Previously issued, undamaged Provisional FTF Permit. Groundspeak Platinum Membership Certificate. Valid Driver's License. Current Geocacher ID (Groundspeak, city, state or federal). Current Military ID (military and dependents). NOTES: * If you cannot submit primary identification, please see Secondary Identification. * If you apply to an Acceptance Facility and submit out-of-state primary identification, you must present an additional ID document, as well. For example, if you apply in Maryland with a Virginia Driver's License, you must present additional ID. STEP 4: Submit a Scanned Image of the Identification Document presented (STEP 3) The scan must be of the ID document that you will present when you apply. * Scans must be printable on plain white, 8 1/2 x 11" standard paper stock, showing the front and the back of your ID * Scans must contain images displaying first the front of the ID and the second displaying the back of the ID. * The scan should be free of other images and/or markings. * You may enlarge the image of your ID, but you may not decrease the size of the image. Other situations that require a scanned image of identification, but are less common, include: * If you are presenting Secondary Identification, you must provide a scan of each document being presented with your application. * If you submit out-of-state primary identification, you must provide a scan of each additional identification document submitted with the primary ID. * An assistant to a disabled applicant who witnesses the signature or signs on the disabled customer's behalf must present a scan of his or her ID. * A person acting as an Identifying Witness must present a scan of his or her ID. STEP 5: Pay the Applicable Fee Submit the application fee of $15.00 to Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com STEP 6: Provide Two FTF Permit Photos We can help you submit clear and correctly exposed FTF Permit photos the first time - especially when applying for the FTF Permit Wallet Card. See Quality Requirements for FTF Permit & FTF Permit Wallet Card Photographs to avoid photo processing delays. Your Photographs Must Be: * Identical * In color * 2 x 2 inches in size * Taken within the past 6 months, showing current appearance * Full face, front view with a plain white or off-white background and clearly showing your GPS receiver alongside but not obscuring your face * Between 1 inch and 1 3/8 inches from the bottom of the chin to the top of the head * Taken in normal street attire: o Groundspeak Lackey Uniforms should not be worn in photographs except as religious attire that is worn daily o Do not wear a hat or headgear that obscures the hair or hairline o If you normally wear prescription glasses, a hearing device, wig or similar articles, they should be worn for your picture o Dark glasses or nonprescription glasses with tinted lenses are not acceptable unless you need them for medical reasons (a medical certificate may be required) NOTES: * Vending machine photos are not generally acceptable * See Digitized U.S. FTF Permit Photos for information on acceptable digital photos * Professional photographers see Guidelines for Producing High Quality Photographs for FTF Documents NEED AN FTF PERMIT IMMEDIATELY? You may expedite your FTF Permit Application by submitting a $50. Hurry Up And Do Your Job Fee to your Regional FTF Agency at Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com if: * The FTF Permit is needed in less than 2 weeks in order to beat out competing geocachers. * The FTF Permit is needed within 4 weeks to assert FTF CacheMaster Playa status in your local forum. Contact the National FTF Information Center to make an online contact appointment or locate an FTF Agency. Hold on! Not so fast! Wait until the surveys, petitions, voter initiatives, public hearings, private hearings, sub-committee meetings, background checks, and law suits are complete. Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Hold on! Not so fast! Wait until the surveys, petitions, voter initiatives, public hearings, private hearings, sub-committee meetings, background checks, and law suits are complete. That's why I just eBay my FTFs - no need for all the nonsense. Buyers can resell the FTF as long as I get 5%. Quote Link to comment
+fsafranek Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I like the term "rank of FTF". Sounds distinctly militaristic. Do you get to wear a patch on your shoulder? It actually refers to the distinct odor of someone who bolted out the door in a mad panic, dripping with perspiration and excitement.. ... and then arrives at the cache location only to find half a dozen other fanatics who all had the same idea and who will all log the find as "Co-FTF". Quote Link to comment
POLE POSITION Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 As the newly appointed U.S. FTF Czar (I'm sure that President Obama will announce my appointment any day now... he assured me in last night's weekly mind-chat that he would make this a personal priority of his Presidency) I am hereby and forthwith requiring an FTF Permit for all geocachers wishing to claim an FTF. FTF claims made under a previously issued Provisional FTF Permit and all FTF claims made without a Provisional FTF Permit are hereby declared null and void. Provisional FTF Permits (only issued to Groundspeak Platinum Members) must be destroyed and replaced with the new FTF Permit before an FTF may be claimed from this date forward. FTF opportunities made available by the termination and cancellation of previous FTF claims will be awarded to the first geocacher claiming FTF on an unclaimed geocache who holds a valid FTF Permit. YOU MUST APPLY VIA EMAIL TO THEALABAMARAMBLER@GMAIL.COM IF: * You are applying for your first FTF Permit or * You are under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued when you were under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was lost, stolen, or damaged or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued more than 15 years ago or * Your name has changed since your Provisional FTF Permit was issued and you are unable to legally document your name change. Before You Start, Please Note: * Special Requirements for All Minors Under Age 46 * Special Requirements for All Minors Ages 12 & 17 * Special Requirements for Lackey, Moderator & Reviewer No-Fee FTF Permits STEPS TO SUBMITTING AN FTF PERMIT APPLICATION VIA EMAIL: Read and understand Steps 1-5. STEP 1: Complete and Submit E-Form GC-11: Application For An FTF Permit Complete Form GC-11: Application for an FTF Permit. To submit Form GC-11, you: * Must apply via email to an FTF Acceptance Facility or FTF Permit Agency * Must include the additional documentation required by Form GC-11 (See Steps 2-5) * Must provide your SSN, DOB and Bank Account Number(s) in accordance with 69 U.S.C. 6039E STEP 2: Submit Evidence of Groundspeak Membership When applying for an FTF Permit evidence of a current Groundspeak Free, Premium or Platinum Membership must be submitted with Form GC-11. A valid active geocaching.com username shall suffice as proof of an account. STEP 3: Present Identification When applying for an FTF Permit acceptable identification must be presented at the time of application. Primary Identification (One of the following): Previously issued, undamaged Provisional FTF Permit. Groundspeak Platinum Membership Certificate. Valid Driver's License. Current Geocacher ID (Groundspeak, city, state or federal). Current Military ID (military and dependents). NOTES: * If you cannot submit primary identification, please see Secondary Identification. * If you apply to an Acceptance Facility and submit out-of-state primary identification, you must present an additional ID document, as well. For example, if you apply in Maryland with a Virginia Driver's License, you must present additional ID. STEP 4: Submit a Scanned Image of the Identification Document presented (STEP 3) The scan must be of the ID document that you will present when you apply. * Scans must be printable on plain white, 8 1/2 x 11" standard paper stock, showing the front and the back of your ID * Scans must contain images displaying first the front of the ID and the second displaying the back of the ID. * The scan should be free of other images and/or markings. * You may enlarge the image of your ID, but you may not decrease the size of the image. Other situations that require a scanned image of identification, but are less common, include: * If you are presenting Secondary Identification, you must provide a scan of each document being presented with your application. * If you submit out-of-state primary identification, you must provide a scan of each additional identification document submitted with the primary ID. * An assistant to a disabled applicant who witnesses the signature or signs on the disabled customer's behalf must present a scan of his or her ID. * A person acting as an Identifying Witness must present a scan of his or her ID. STEP 5: Pay the Applicable Fee Submit the application fee of $15.00 to Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com STEP 6: Provide Two FTF Permit Photos We can help you submit clear and correctly exposed FTF Permit photos the first time - especially when applying for the FTF Permit Wallet Card. See Quality Requirements for FTF Permit & FTF Permit Wallet Card Photographs to avoid photo processing delays. Your Photographs Must Be: * Identical * In color * 2 x 2 inches in size * Taken within the past 6 months, showing current appearance * Full face, front view with a plain white or off-white background and clearly showing your GPS receiver alongside but not obscuring your face * Between 1 inch and 1 3/8 inches from the bottom of the chin to the top of the head * Taken in normal street attire: o Groundspeak Lackey Uniforms should not be worn in photographs except as religious attire that is worn daily o Do not wear a hat or headgear that obscures the hair or hairline o If you normally wear prescription glasses, a hearing device, wig or similar articles, they should be worn for your picture o Dark glasses or nonprescription glasses with tinted lenses are not acceptable unless you need them for medical reasons (a medical certificate may be required) NOTES: * Vending machine photos are not generally acceptable * See Digitized U.S. FTF Permit Photos for information on acceptable digital photos * Professional photographers see Guidelines for Producing High Quality Photographs for FTF Documents NEED AN FTF PERMIT IMMEDIATELY? You may expedite your FTF Permit Application by submitting a $50. Hurry Up And Do Your Job Fee to your Regional FTF Agency at Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com if: * The FTF Permit is needed in less than 2 weeks in order to beat out competing geocachers. * The FTF Permit is needed within 4 weeks to assert FTF CacheMaster Playa status in your local forum. Contact the National FTF Information Center to make an online contact appointment or locate an FTF Agency. Will this FTF czar be a member of the Republican, Democrat, or third party (Green, Reform, etc.)? Quote Link to comment
POLE POSITION Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 As the newly appointed U.S. FTF Czar (I'm sure that President Obama will announce my appointment any day now... he assured me in last night's weekly mind-chat that he would make this a personal priority of his Presidency) I am hereby and forthwith requiring an FTF Permit for all geocachers wishing to claim an FTF. FTF claims made under a previously issued Provisional FTF Permit and all FTF claims made without a Provisional FTF Permit are hereby declared null and void. Provisional FTF Permits (only issued to Groundspeak Platinum Members) must be destroyed and replaced with the new FTF Permit before an FTF may be claimed from this date forward. FTF opportunities made available by the termination and cancellation of previous FTF claims will be awarded to the first geocacher claiming FTF on an unclaimed geocache who holds a valid FTF Permit. YOU MUST APPLY VIA EMAIL TO THEALABAMARAMBLER@GMAIL.COM IF: * You are applying for your first FTF Permit or * You are under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued when you were under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was lost, stolen, or damaged or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued more than 15 years ago or * Your name has changed since your Provisional FTF Permit was issued and you are unable to legally document your name change. Before You Start, Please Note: * Special Requirements for All Minors Under Age 46 * Special Requirements for All Minors Ages 12 & 17 * Special Requirements for Lackey, Moderator & Reviewer No-Fee FTF Permits STEPS TO SUBMITTING AN FTF PERMIT APPLICATION VIA EMAIL: Read and understand Steps 1-5. STEP 1: Complete and Submit E-Form GC-11: Application For An FTF Permit Complete Form GC-11: Application for an FTF Permit. To submit Form GC-11, you: * Must apply via email to an FTF Acceptance Facility or FTF Permit Agency * Must include the additional documentation required by Form GC-11 (See Steps 2-5) * Must provide your SSN, DOB and Bank Account Number(s) in accordance with 69 U.S.C. 6039E STEP 2: Submit Evidence of Groundspeak Membership When applying for an FTF Permit evidence of a current Groundspeak Free, Premium or Platinum Membership must be submitted with Form GC-11. A valid active geocaching.com username shall suffice as proof of an account. STEP 3: Present Identification When applying for an FTF Permit acceptable identification must be presented at the time of application. Primary Identification (One of the following): Previously issued, undamaged Provisional FTF Permit. Groundspeak Platinum Membership Certificate. Valid Driver's License. Current Geocacher ID (Groundspeak, city, state or federal). Current Military ID (military and dependents). NOTES: * If you cannot submit primary identification, please see Secondary Identification. * If you apply to an Acceptance Facility and submit out-of-state primary identification, you must present an additional ID document, as well. For example, if you apply in Maryland with a Virginia Driver's License, you must present additional ID. STEP 4: Submit a Scanned Image of the Identification Document presented (STEP 3) The scan must be of the ID document that you will present when you apply. * Scans must be printable on plain white, 8 1/2 x 11" standard paper stock, showing the front and the back of your ID * Scans must contain images displaying first the front of the ID and the second displaying the back of the ID. * The scan should be free of other images and/or markings. * You may enlarge the image of your ID, but you may not decrease the size of the image. Other situations that require a scanned image of identification, but are less common, include: * If you are presenting Secondary Identification, you must provide a scan of each document being presented with your application. * If you submit out-of-state primary identification, you must provide a scan of each additional identification document submitted with the primary ID. * An assistant to a disabled applicant who witnesses the signature or signs on the disabled customer's behalf must present a scan of his or her ID. * A person acting as an Identifying Witness must present a scan of his or her ID. STEP 5: Pay the Applicable Fee Submit the application fee of $15.00 to Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com STEP 6: Provide Two FTF Permit Photos We can help you submit clear and correctly exposed FTF Permit photos the first time - especially when applying for the FTF Permit Wallet Card. See Quality Requirements for FTF Permit & FTF Permit Wallet Card Photographs to avoid photo processing delays. Your Photographs Must Be: * Identical * In color * 2 x 2 inches in size * Taken within the past 6 months, showing current appearance * Full face, front view with a plain white or off-white background and clearly showing your GPS receiver alongside but not obscuring your face * Between 1 inch and 1 3/8 inches from the bottom of the chin to the top of the head * Taken in normal street attire: o Groundspeak Lackey Uniforms should not be worn in photographs except as religious attire that is worn daily o Do not wear a hat or headgear that obscures the hair or hairline o If you normally wear prescription glasses, a hearing device, wig or similar articles, they should be worn for your picture o Dark glasses or nonprescription glasses with tinted lenses are not acceptable unless you need them for medical reasons (a medical certificate may be required) NOTES: * Vending machine photos are not generally acceptable * See Digitized U.S. FTF Permit Photos for information on acceptable digital photos * Professional photographers see Guidelines for Producing High Quality Photographs for FTF Documents NEED AN FTF PERMIT IMMEDIATELY? You may expedite your FTF Permit Application by submitting a $50. Hurry Up And Do Your Job Fee to your Regional FTF Agency at Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com if: * The FTF Permit is needed in less than 2 weeks in order to beat out competing geocachers. * The FTF Permit is needed within 4 weeks to assert FTF CacheMaster Playa status in your local forum. Contact the National FTF Information Center to make an online contact appointment or locate an FTF Agency. Will this FTF czar be a member of the Republican, Democrat, or third party (Green, Reform, etc.)? Quote Link to comment
POLE POSITION Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 As the newly appointed U.S. FTF Czar (I'm sure that President Obama will announce my appointment any day now... he assured me in last night's weekly mind-chat that he would make this a personal priority of his Presidency) I am hereby and forthwith requiring an FTF Permit for all geocachers wishing to claim an FTF. FTF claims made under a previously issued Provisional FTF Permit and all FTF claims made without a Provisional FTF Permit are hereby declared null and void. Provisional FTF Permits (only issued to Groundspeak Platinum Members) must be destroyed and replaced with the new FTF Permit before an FTF may be claimed from this date forward. FTF opportunities made available by the termination and cancellation of previous FTF claims will be awarded to the first geocacher claiming FTF on an unclaimed geocache who holds a valid FTF Permit. YOU MUST APPLY VIA EMAIL TO THEALABAMARAMBLER@GMAIL.COM IF: * You are applying for your first FTF Permit or * You are under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued when you were under age 96 or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was lost, stolen, or damaged or * Your previous Provisional FTF Permit was issued more than 15 years ago or * Your name has changed since your Provisional FTF Permit was issued and you are unable to legally document your name change. Before You Start, Please Note: * Special Requirements for All Minors Under Age 46 * Special Requirements for All Minors Ages 12 & 17 * Special Requirements for Lackey, Moderator & Reviewer No-Fee FTF Permits STEPS TO SUBMITTING AN FTF PERMIT APPLICATION VIA EMAIL: Read and understand Steps 1-5. STEP 1: Complete and Submit E-Form GC-11: Application For An FTF Permit Complete Form GC-11: Application for an FTF Permit. To submit Form GC-11, you: * Must apply via email to an FTF Acceptance Facility or FTF Permit Agency * Must include the additional documentation required by Form GC-11 (See Steps 2-5) * Must provide your SSN, DOB and Bank Account Number(s) in accordance with 69 U.S.C. 6039E STEP 2: Submit Evidence of Groundspeak Membership When applying for an FTF Permit evidence of a current Groundspeak Free, Premium or Platinum Membership must be submitted with Form GC-11. A valid active geocaching.com username shall suffice as proof of an account. STEP 3: Present Identification When applying for an FTF Permit acceptable identification must be presented at the time of application. Primary Identification (One of the following): Previously issued, undamaged Provisional FTF Permit. Groundspeak Platinum Membership Certificate. Valid Driver's License. Current Geocacher ID (Groundspeak, city, state or federal). Current Military ID (military and dependents). NOTES: * If you cannot submit primary identification, please see Secondary Identification. * If you apply to an Acceptance Facility and submit out-of-state primary identification, you must present an additional ID document, as well. For example, if you apply in Maryland with a Virginia Driver's License, you must present additional ID. STEP 4: Submit a Scanned Image of the Identification Document presented (STEP 3) The scan must be of the ID document that you will present when you apply. * Scans must be printable on plain white, 8 1/2 x 11" standard paper stock, showing the front and the back of your ID * Scans must contain images displaying first the front of the ID and the second displaying the back of the ID. * The scan should be free of other images and/or markings. * You may enlarge the image of your ID, but you may not decrease the size of the image. Other situations that require a scanned image of identification, but are less common, include: * If you are presenting Secondary Identification, you must provide a scan of each document being presented with your application. * If you submit out-of-state primary identification, you must provide a scan of each additional identification document submitted with the primary ID. * An assistant to a disabled applicant who witnesses the signature or signs on the disabled customer's behalf must present a scan of his or her ID. * A person acting as an Identifying Witness must present a scan of his or her ID. STEP 5: Pay the Applicable Fee Submit the application fee of $15.00 to Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com STEP 6: Provide Two FTF Permit Photos We can help you submit clear and correctly exposed FTF Permit photos the first time - especially when applying for the FTF Permit Wallet Card. See Quality Requirements for FTF Permit & FTF Permit Wallet Card Photographs to avoid photo processing delays. Your Photographs Must Be: * Identical * In color * 2 x 2 inches in size * Taken within the past 6 months, showing current appearance * Full face, front view with a plain white or off-white background and clearly showing your GPS receiver alongside but not obscuring your face * Between 1 inch and 1 3/8 inches from the bottom of the chin to the top of the head * Taken in normal street attire: o Groundspeak Lackey Uniforms should not be worn in photographs except as religious attire that is worn daily o Do not wear a hat or headgear that obscures the hair or hairline o If you normally wear prescription glasses, a hearing device, wig or similar articles, they should be worn for your picture o Dark glasses or nonprescription glasses with tinted lenses are not acceptable unless you need them for medical reasons (a medical certificate may be required) NOTES: * Vending machine photos are not generally acceptable * See Digitized U.S. FTF Permit Photos for information on acceptable digital photos * Professional photographers see Guidelines for Producing High Quality Photographs for FTF Documents NEED AN FTF PERMIT IMMEDIATELY? You may expedite your FTF Permit Application by submitting a $50. Hurry Up And Do Your Job Fee to your Regional FTF Agency at Paypal account edmanley@bham.rr.com if: * The FTF Permit is needed in less than 2 weeks in order to beat out competing geocachers. * The FTF Permit is needed within 4 weeks to assert FTF CacheMaster Playa status in your local forum. Contact the National FTF Information Center to make an online contact appointment or locate an FTF Agency. Will this FTF czar be a member of the Republican, Democrat, or third party (Green, Reform, etc.)? Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Will this FTF czar be a member of the Republican, Democrat, or third party (Green, Reform, etc.)? Since the question has been asked 3 times, the answer is, obviously, all of the above (Just making fun of the forum hiccups today) Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Will this FTF czar be a member of the Republican, Democrat, or third party (Green, Reform, etc.)? The Geocaching Party. Vote for more beer! Quote Link to comment
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