+Vinny & Sue Team Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) Folks, I have, over the past few days, witnessed something that I have seen on the forums a few times in the past, and the latest occurrence really kinda made my skin crawl, it was so creepy, in terms of the whininess and sense of self-entitlement displayed by the requesters. Here goes with a brief rendering of my tale, and I wonder how many other folks get a creepy feeling from it: My Psycho Urban Cache #13 - Impossible! Give Up Now! was recently chosen for inclusion in a documentary show on extreme geocaching for a major TV network. The producers wished to film a team tackling the cache (it is usually anywhere from a nine hour job to a 4 day job), and so I started a thread about the whole matter in the Mid-Atlantic section of the forum, in order to find a team willing and able to tackle the cache while being filmed. So far, so good, and, in short order, a team that had already been planning on tackling the cache expressed willingness to do it, and that team is currently coalescing for the effort. No problems there; it all went easy. However.... However, as the forum thread progressed, something else happened that kinda amazed me and some of the other participants in the thread. Namely, three or four geocachers, each of them regular, non-paying members, sent posts to the thread, asking/stating things such as (examples follow): Is there a chance that the Psycho Urban caches could be opened up for public viewing? At the moment the #13 cache, and a bunch of the others too, are members only listing. cool.gif Agreed, us lowly non-members cannot view these caches. If its only $30 bux then you can buy me a Gift Membership wink.gif J/K - I really dont want one. Purpose of my post was to indicate that if you want to get interest in the cache and make the documentary a success you may want to open it up to all members. Are you looking to promote the sport of geocaching or just premium membership sales? Frankly, I was floored and shocked by these responses, and my first reaction was to contact the posters privately to see if Sioneva or flask (both of them known agents provocateur) had perhaps paid them $50 to send those posts just to irritate me, but no, each of the posters really meant what they posted, and they believed that they were "right". Personally, I am amazed that these folks are asking/suggesting that the listing be removed from Premium member-only status so that they might view the listing page free of charge. The price of a monthly membership at Groundspeak is less than the price of mug of cheap beer, and about the price of one gallon of gasoline, for God's sake! And, from another perspective, we can look at the whole matter in any of the two ways, as well: let's consider how much it costs the owners of Groundspeak to run the site, in terms of salaries, bandwidth, servers, programmers, etc. the Otter Box container and associated cache-site hardware used for PUC #13 cost me about $28. the FTF and 2TF prizes for PUC #13 cost me over $270, and the FTF prize alone included $160 in cash. let us consider the fact that each of my two chartered helicopter flights to emplace the cache cost me about $160 apiece (the actual list price was somewhat higher, but I was given a sizeable discount because I am a pilot, and the owner of the helicopter charter facility was also a geocacher.) My subsequent maintenance visits also each cost me about $160 apiece for helicopter charter. For me to be able to emplace the cache, the helicopter needed to hover well below the "dead mans curve" just feet above the top of the 80 foot tall pier, and just 90 feet above a cold raging river. In other words, the procedure was rather dangerous, and only about one out of 100 helicopter pilots will even consider tackling the job, due to the dangers involved. I have taken these sizeable risks several times in order to emplace the cache and to do maintenance visits. the switchable electromagnet-on-a-cable device that I built in my lab shop in order to allow retrieval and replacement of the cache from the air cost (including the numerous D-cell alkaline batteries) over $130. It is obvious that I invested a lot of time and money and effort to place the cache in question. It is also obvious that it costs Groundspeak a lot of money to run this listing website. And yet.... some non-paying members, who are already enjoying a tremendous number of benefits at the site totally for free, have the gall to ask me to drop the PMO status of this cache, and of my other Psycho caches, just so that they can view the cache listing pages FOR FREE???? I am shocked, irritated and dismayed. In fact, since reading those requests, I have been continually looking to the western horizon for some sign of the approach of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, because if humanity has really degenerated to this point, then this must indeed be the beginning of the End of Days. So, then, to be fair, I decided that maybe these folks were right, and maybe I was wrong. So, I proceeded to contact the following businesses and ask them if they would start giving me their products and services entirely for free, rather than asking me to pay for their products and services: my Internet service provider, to which I pay $40 per month for DSL service. They said no. my phone company, to which I pay about $40 per month. Amazingly, they said no. my local gas station, where I fuel my car once per week. Amazingly, they said no. my favorite Vietnamese restaurant; I asked if they would give me all my favorite dishes for free from now on. Amazingly, they said no. my propane gas supply company, from which I purchase over $1,000 of gas per year for heating purposes. Amazingly, they said no. My electric company. Amazingly, they said no. I then contacted my old graduate school, and asked them if I could return in order to pursue a PhD degree for free; normal cost would be about $90,000 over five years. Amazingly, they said no. I then contacted each of the major US airlines, and explained that I often fly around the USA on research field trips, and I asked them if they would, from now on, give me free flights to any destinations of my choice. Amazingly, they said no. my car is getting a bit old, and has become a bit of an oil burner now that it has over 140,000 miles on it, and so I visited each of 11 different car dealers in my area, asking each of them if they would give me a new car for free. Amazingly, they said no. ...sigh....! I guess the biggest thing that I wonder is what causes people to display such egregious levels of sense of self-entitlement. Or, are they perhaps a different species than I? Why do I find their behavior so foreign and so distasteful? Do these people TOTALLY lack gratitude and appreciation? In fact, this kind of behavior is INFANTILE. . Edited March 22, 2009 by Vinny & Sue Team Quote Link to comment
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