+wavector Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I wonder if anyone else has had a Moderator warn them they are not being respectful of others. In a recent thread I was warned by a Moderator that I wasn't being respectful of the opinions of others. I was wondering if any other posters on that thread received a warning about being disrespectful? The idea that I was offended by was a simple one, a poster suggested that a solution was to take everyone who logs events multiple times and publicly mark all of their logs and their profile with a specific mark with the express purpose of allowing other cachers to identfy them at a glance. Apparently the suggestion that this listing service publicly label a group of cachers for the purposes of easily identifying that they have a different geocaching culture is being respectful of others, but perhaps that poster was warned as well? Another poster commented that maybe the person just thought he was offering a reasonable solution. Apparently dismissing the "reasonable solution" argument without a lot of words was also disrespectful. These two posts were the ones that the moderator linked as disrespectful. I expect warnings, I have publicy stated that I will attack standards that are being proposed that would result in all geocachers being controlled so that they are unable to enjoy this activity in the fashion they wish. Every time I enter into one of these conversations I expect to get flak from people who want their personal standards to be advanced by this listing service and I expect every word I write is scrutinized by people who don't like to see those personal standards dismissed as personal standards. So, have you been warned? Can someone actually find out where their personal warning meter is sitting? Quote Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 My personal warning meter was spiked by Keystone. But, I actually asked for it. Quote Link to comment
Keystone Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 1. If you feel that you've unfairly received a warning, or that the moderators have acted inappropriately, please use the special e-mail address provided just for that purpose: reviewers @ geocaching.com. Messages sent to this address are read directly by the Groundspeak employees who are responsible for supervising the work of the site volunteers. 2. You cannot see your own warning meter (this feature was removed because it caused too much confusion among the overwhelming majority of forum posters who have never received a warning, but asked why they had a warning meter). You can keep track of how many warnings you've received by saving the messages. Your goal should be to NOT expect warnings, because your higher goal is to follow the forum guidelines. 3. Please limit discussion in this thread to warn meters, warnings and how the moderators do their job. Do not use the topic to discuss the substance of the thread which was recently closed. Thanks! Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I have only been formally warned only one time. Yeah I've been talked to, referred to, and chastised many times but only one "Do not do that again." And that was when I simply posted "Troll" I understood the warning, my post wasn't contributing to the conversation. It was inciting - Stirring the pot, as you will. I still do point out trolling behavior and sometimes accomplish what I intended, shutting them down. It is just done without handing out the pitchforks and torches. Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 First, BlueDeuce, I love the goat in your avatar image! Next, yes, I have received two warnings regarding my behavior on these forums, each from a secret sub-agency of the NSA, warning me that I should cease and desist from talking openly and publicly on these forums about their half-human/half-reptoid reptilian agents -- sometimes known as the Men in Black and their visits to my home in the course of their attempts to intimidate me. I have also received warnings from more mundane/everyday earthbound sources that I was not mentioning goats often enough on the forums. That behavioral deficiency has hopefully since been corrected. Quote Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) First, BlueDeuce, I love the goat in your avatar image! Next, yes, I have received two warnings regarding my behavior on these forums, each from a secret sub-agency of the NSA, warning me that I should cease and desist from talking openly and publicly on these forums about their half-human/half-reptoid reptilian agents -- sometimes known as the Men in Black and their visits to my home in the course of their attempts to intimidate me. I have also received warnings from more mundane/everyday earthbound sources that I was not mentioning goats often enough on the forums. That behavioral deficiency has hopefully since been corrected. Just wait until the men in white lab coats (or more on topic, The Man in the white lab coat) come to get you. Edited October 13, 2007 by Ambrosia Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) Goat? What goat? Trust me, that's a whole lotta bull. Edited October 13, 2007 by BlueDeuce Quote Link to comment
Mushtang Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 My answer is, oh yes, most definitely. Warned, warned, warned, booted for a day, warned, warned, booted for 3 days, warned, booted for a week, warned, and warned some more. I think my last removal from the forums was for a week. Now that you mention it I'm curious where my warn meter stands. It's been a while since I was booted, does that mean that my meter has gone down some? Any mods please let me know. Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 My answer is, oh yes, most definitely. Warned, warned, warned, booted for a day, warned, warned, booted for 3 days, warned, booted for a week, warned, and warned some more. I think my last removal from the forums was for a week. Now that you mention it I'm curious where my warn meter stands. It's been a while since I was booted, does that mean that my meter has gone down some? Any mods please let me know. sob... I wish my sock puppets would behave themselves better... now I am embarrassed... sob... sniffle... this is tragic... Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 So, have you been warned? Yes, I've been warned and I've even been given two brief timeouts during my ~5 years. But that's the truth. If I had a meter, it would be a lot more blue than red these days. Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) My answer is, oh yes, most definitely. Warned, warned, warned, booted for a day, warned, warned, booted for 3 days, warned, booted for a week, warned, and warned some more. I think my last removal from the forums was for a week. Now that you mention it I'm curious where my warn meter stands. It's been a while since I was booted, does that mean that my meter has gone down some? Any mods please let me know. I think we both got it at the same time once.... Edited October 13, 2007 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+Lotho Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Ive been warned, kicked off for a week then kicked off for 2 weeks without warning. Quote Link to comment
Trinity's Crew Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I've had a couple of posts edited by a moderator for inappropriate language. One post contained a word with asterisks in it but the word was moderated out completely. The other was a post about the sofa king. (PM me if you need more explanation than that.) However I have never been officially warned or suspended. I'll keep trying though. Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 . . .I have received two warnings regarding my behavior on these forums, each from a secret sub-agency of the NSA, warning me that I should cease and desist from talking openly and publicly on these forums about their half-human/half-reptoid reptilian agents -- sometimes known as the Men in Black and their visits to my home in the course of their attempts to intimidate me. I have also received warnings from more mundane/everyday earthbound sources that I was not mentioning goats often enough on the forums. That behavioral deficiency has hopefully since been corrected. Oops! In my earlier post, I forgot to mention that in a recent thread (about how one becomes a reviewer) Mtn Man edited one of my posts to remove the wire transfer account number and routing info for my bank account in the Grand Cayman Islands. He and Keystone also sent me real nasty private letters about that incident, advising me that it was not cool for me to solicit bribes (sigh... I call them "fees") on this site, and telling me to shape up or ship out and find a new sport ... sigh! I guess I am just a bad boy... I sent them each a key lime hamster pie from a famous hamster bakery in Johnstown PA (I ordered online) in an attempt to try to patch up things. Quote Link to comment
+ScoutingWV Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I got warned once. I called someone a jerk because they were being one. It seemed to be the prevailing opinion, I just happened to be the person who actually said it in a post. Note to self: don't call someone a jerk who is also tight with a mod. Heck - it's a community. Sometimes goofballs just float to the surface. Quote Link to comment
+cache_test_dummies Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 So, have you been warned? Not a private warning. Quiggle laughed at a picture I posted once, but I don't think that was meant as a warning. A couple of years ago, Jeremy injected a general, but pretty stern, warning which came into the thread a post or two after one of mine. I thought his post was directed at me, and I was mortified. So I PM'd him an apology right away, and he responded with a very polite message letting me know that his comment wasn't directed at me. We still laugh about it when he and I get together on Thursdays over at mtn-man's house for our weekly game of Canasta. Among Vinny's socks, I'm generally considered to be too well mannered. I'm sure the other socks laugh at me behind my back, but it doesn't bother me much anymore. Someone has to be Good Sock when we do the Good Sock / Bad Sock bit. Quote Link to comment
bogleman Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I consider myself a power lurker. I don't remember when I started lurking but it was shortly after I signed up. I've seen many come and go and you can see it coming - some folks just don't know when to walk away. I was thinking about this very same subject the other day, I seem to remember receiving a PM a long time ago, I had no idea who it came from but it served it's point. I have a nasty habit of saving all email that I think is important but this is one that I deleted, sooooo officially I can say I have never been warned, never really tried to push buttons or post anything really stupid or against the guidelines. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Did you know one time Jeremy personally told me he was sorry? It was when he closed a thread of mine. "Sorry, this isn't a geocaching related topic" Quote Link to comment
uperdooper Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 nope! my warning meter is still a virgin as far as i know. Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) Did you know one time Jeremy personally told me he was sorry? It was when he closed a thread of mine. "Sorry, this isn't a geocaching related topic" You too? Oh no! Is this about geocaching? Edited October 13, 2007 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 So, have you been warned? Not a private warning. Quiggle laughed at a picture I posted once, but I don't think that was meant as a warning. A couple of years ago, Jeremy injected a general, but pretty stern, warning which came into the thread a post or two after one of mine. I thought his post was directed at me, and I was mortified. So I PM'd him an apology right away, and he responded with a very polite message letting me know that his comment wasn't directed at me. We still laugh about it when he and I get together on Thursdays over at mtn-man's house for our weekly game of Canasta. Among Vinny's socks, I'm generally considered to be too well mannered. I'm sure the other socks laugh at me behind my back, but it doesn't bother me much anymore. Someone has to be Good Sock when we do the Good Sock / Bad Sock bit. Exactly...! Good sock puppet! Thank you! Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I've spent a few nights in the box. I can't eat no 50 eggs and I don't run no mo. I gots my head right boss! Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I've spent a few nights in the box. I can't eat no 50 eggs and I don't run no mo. I gots my head right boss! "What we have here is a failure to communicate!" I gots my head right now too boss! Quote Link to comment
Mushtang Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I've spent a few nights in the box. I can't eat no 50 eggs and I don't run no mo. I gots my head right boss! That reminds me, I've got to take my car to the car wash soon. Quote Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I've been warned, and moderated several times. "Moderated" for those that don't know, means that a moderator reads your posts before they are posted. Everytime I've been warned or moderated, I deserved what I got. I'm quick tempered, and I type faster than I think at times. Most of the mods I've interreacted with on a personal basis, and I consider them friends. They have a tough job to do, and they do it well. If you don't think so, you should have been in here about 5 years ago. El Diablo Quote Link to comment
+tigeone Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I read these posts and I understand that if someone is being disrespectful or degrading is one thing,but are people being warned for making a post about something that is "outside" of the thread content?Maybe someone has an opinion about the subject matter of the thread (like or dislike) that needs to be said.So do they have to start a new thread subjuect?Wow I thought we lived in AMERICA! Quote Link to comment
ltd0202 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) So, have you been warned? Good Sock / Bad Sock bit. Is that anything like a Happy Sock? Edited October 14, 2007 by ltd0202 Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I read these posts and I understand that if someone is being disrespectful or degrading is one thing,but are people being warned for making a post about something that is "outside" of the thread content?Maybe someone has an opinion about the subject matter of the thread (like or dislike) that needs to be said.So do they have to start a new thread subjuect?Wow I thought we lived in AMERICA! This forum is not a Democracy. Play by the gc.com rules. Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) I read these posts and I understand that if someone is being disrespectful or degrading is one thing,but are people being warned for making a post about something that is "outside" of the thread content?Maybe someone has an opinion about the subject matter of the thread (like or dislike) that needs to be said.So do they have to start a new thread subjuect?Wow I thought we lived in AMERICA! Okay. Those words won't get you a night in the box, but now the OP deserves a paddlin' for incitement to angst. Edited October 14, 2007 by Snoogans Quote Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I read these posts and I understand that if someone is being disrespectful or degrading is one thing,but are people being warned for making a post about something that is "outside" of the thread content?Maybe someone has an opinion about the subject matter of the thread (like or dislike) that needs to be said.So do they have to start a new thread subjuect?Wow I thought we lived in AMERICA! What does America have to do with these fourms? You are here at the pleasure of GC.com. Posting a reply outside of the subject of the thread is considered bad fourm. El Diablo Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I read these posts and I understand that if someone is being disrespectful or degrading is one thing,but are people being warned for making a post about something that is "outside" of the thread content?Maybe someone has an opinion about the subject matter of the thread (like or dislike) that needs to be said.So do they have to start a new thread subjuect?Wow I thought we lived in AMERICA! Actually not all of us do. Look at where people come from. This is an international forum. Quote Link to comment
+Rockin Roddy Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Yes, an international forums where some might get offended by insinuations which may seem trivial to others. And NOPE! (well, yep....but not recently). Quote Link to comment
+webscouter. Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I'm not sure if I was warned or not but I have had a post disappear when I made some slightly scathing comments about the ... that made a paper copy of a geocoin of mine and sent it out while keeping my nice shiny coin. The post was even on topic but I guess it doesn't look good to have a scouter making disparaging remarks even if a person wasn't named. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Never in any formal fashion. Just as part of a group warning in the thread that we were straying a bit too much - a couple of times. Quote Link to comment
+Corp Of Discovery Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 I've only had 1 'official' warning. I don't think I deserved it- especially after I had already received an 'unofficial' warning for the same thing just a short time before. I have had a couple of those 'unofficial' types over the years. I've had exactly one post edited and I didn't think that it was warranted. In every case I had communications with the mods involved. We had a good discussion and aired our opinions on the subject. The exchanges were always polite and the issues resolved without further incident. Quote Link to comment
+ReadyOrNot Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 (edited) So, have you been warned? Oh my.. I just had to chuckle when I read this question. I just got off a 1 month suspension because of my inability to control what comes out of my mouth I am now currently on the "misspell a word, you're gone" plan I believe that if you show good behavior and show the moderators that you are interested in changing your behavior, the warning level will eventually get lowered. BTW - Can anyone beat a month? Edited October 20, 2007 by ReadyOrNot Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 So, have you been warned? . . .BTW - Can anyone beat a month? Yes, I can! Back in the year 1104, when geocaching was still in its infancy, and we were totally dependent upon the satellite signals from the satellites employed by the alien greens from Tau Ceta, I really mouthed off in then-still-small international geocaching forums. Four days later, on September 22, 1104, after the close of a convocation of moderators who met in Lyons, France to discuss my case, I was notified via private email that I was banned from the geo forums for 150 years, yes, one hundred and fifty years! Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 (edited) So, have you been warned? . . .BTW - Can anyone beat a month? Yes, I can! Back in the year 1104, when geocaching was still in its infancy, and we were totally dependent upon the satellite signals from the satellites employed by the alien greens from Tau Ceta, I really mouthed off in then-still-small international geocaching forums. Four days later, on September 22, 1104, after the close of a convocation of moderators who met in Lyons, France to discuss my case, I was notified via private email that I was banned from the geo forums for 150 years, yes, one hundred and fifty years! I remember hearing about that Vinny! I was sitting at at comedy show in Vieux Lyon at the annual Renaissance festival. I was watching two comedians, who were eating carrots and reciting long passages with a profusion of alliterations with the letter p. This caused thousands of tiny carrot chew projectiles to fly out of their mouths on to the front rows of the audience. It was very funny to watch. Anyhow, during the show they told us about your preposterous and puzzling predicament! Edited October 20, 2007 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
nobby.nobbs Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 I think they feel sorry for me and have never had the heart to admonish me in any form Quote Link to comment
Archangel_UK Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 You`ve just got to ignore the fruitloops , they`re in every forum . if you don`t respond they`ll go and annoy someone else ,,, chillllllll out dudes Quote Link to comment
+ReadyOrNot Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 You`ve just got to ignore the fruitloops , they`re in every forum . if you don`t respond they`ll go and annoy someone else ,,, chillllllll out dudes I haven't left yet Quote Link to comment
+Jeep_Dog Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 So, have you been warned? Can someone actually find out where their personal warning meter is sitting? Nope. Not one warning. Is this something to which I am supposed to aspire? Quote Link to comment
+Confucius' Cat Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Nope. Not one warning. Is this something to which I am supposed to aspire? Sure! Why not? sometimes ya gotta test the waters. Answering the OP: A few that i can remember: Warned for "kicking hornets nests". (And I spent HOURS making up that avatar, too!) Got the "it's a big sandbox- play nice" a few times. Most recently, warned privately and banned from one thread after "ignoring" a public warning for taking exception to persons wanting to boycott a certain restaurant chain whose name we are not permitted to mention in the forums even though the public warning appeared to have been directed at Sbell judging from its specific reference, timing and placement in the thread. Quote Link to comment
+ArtieD Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) I have been warned a few times and suspended a few times...usually one to three days. I got a week-long suspension once for something I *know* I broke no rules over...but oh well...live and learn, I guess. Edited October 23, 2007 by Arthur & Trillian Quote Link to comment
+ReadyOrNot Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Every time I enter into one of these conversations I expect to get flak from people who want their personal standards to be advanced by this listing service and I expect every word I write is scrutinized by people who don't like to see those personal standards dismissed as personal standards. Right below your avatar it says "1GC####=1 FIND"... I agree with you 100%, but doesn't that violate what I just quoted you saying above? Quote Link to comment
+Team GeoBlast Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) 1. If you feel that you've unfairly received a warning, or that the moderators have acted inappropriately, please use the special e-mail address provided just for that purpose: reviewers @ geocaching.com. Messages sent to this address are read directly by the Groundspeak employees who are responsible for supervising the work of the site volunteers. 2. You cannot see your own warning meter (this feature was removed because it caused too much confusion among the overwhelming majority of forum posters who have never received a warning, but asked why they had a warning meter). You can keep track of how many warnings you've received by saving the messages. Your goal should be to NOT expect warnings, because your higher goal is to follow the forum guidelines. 3. Please limit discussion in this thread to warn meters, warnings and how the moderators do their job. Do not use the topic to discuss the substance of the thread which was recently closed. Thanks! I actually had a blast once getting warned. I was a fairly new poster and through my inexperience allowed myself to get sucked into one of the many epic struggles of the LPC that have made these forums infamous. It lasted for months and expanded to well over 20 pages of threads. When things were getting out of hand and uncomfortably personal, Keystone stepped in and turned the thread into a game of Survivor, daring the contestants (posters) to continue the thread without crossing the line. I started out as the odds on favorite to win when I was given the immunity torch and then rightfully lost it due to my own big mouth. In the end, I was one of the last Survivors, but eventually was booted off the island with parting gifts. I have to say that was some of the most fun that I've had posting here. Edited October 23, 2007 by Team GeoBlast Quote Link to comment
+hydnsek Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Nope, never. I'm more of a professional lurker. But I do have this nice picture of goats that I thought Vinny might like. Saw them on Vancouver Island, BC, last weekend. Quote Link to comment
+simpjkee Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I've been warned about 5 times since April. Yesterday I just got done with a 30 day ban for my most recent warning. Here's the succesion of my most recent warning: stunod's warning: I removed the image of the dog from your post in the animated GIF thread.Please keep your posted material more on the "family-friendly" side if you wish to continue posting. Thank you for understanding. mtn-man's continuation of warning: Giving you 14 days disabled posting for the image noted in Stunod's warning. Further violations will result in longer time-outs or removal from posting entirely. mtn-man's contnuation of the continuation of the warning: After consultation with Groundspeak moderators and upper level admins, it has been decided that we should increase your time to 30 days. You have many repeated offenses over a very short period of time. It seems that the point we are trying to make isn't sinking in. Geocaching is a game for all people of all ages, young and old. We try to cater to the widest possible audience possible. I am at my parents house taking care of my sick father, and I had to scroll quickly past the image because I knew my father would ask what kind of trashy web site I was looking at. You need to think before you post in the future. You are going down the road to being banned from posting in the forums. No reply needed. It's good to be back Quote Link to comment
+Rockin Roddy Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Hey Simp...good to see you back around! I must have missed the picture... Quote Link to comment
+simpjkee Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Hey Simp...good to see you back around! I must have missed the picture... it was hilarious. and it showed nothing more than what kids and families with dogs see everyday. oh well thats the past now. Quote Link to comment
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