+superfastcacher Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 I am hiding a geocache in a regular 18oz peanut butter jar would this be considered a regular cache or a small cache. Quote
+nekom Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 I would probably go with small, as it is smaller than most ammo cans. Of course it's kind of subjective, but that's my opinion. Quote
+Isonzo Karst Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Probably depends on the opening size. When I think about cache size, I try to think about cachers carrying travel bugs. What will fit in the cache? If a typical beanie baby stuffed critter with TB tag won't go through the opening, call it a small. Quote
+sbell111 Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 My vision of 'small' is a sandwich-sized container. Larger containers are 'regular'. Quote
+flask Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 round containers of mediusm size bug me; round may be the most efficient geometrically, but a lot of my cache swag fits better in a rectangular container. Quote
+markp99 Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 FYI, I have never found a cache in a peanut butter jar that has not been wet and stinky... Maybe it's my northern climat, but they are not so waterproof. Quote
knowschad Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 FYI, I have never found a cache in a peanut butter jar that has not been wet and stinky... Maybe it's my northern climat, but they are not so waterproof. I've found plenty of peanut butter jar caches that were in fine shape even after a couple of years. Not sure how the smell was cleaned out well enough to keep animals away, though. As for the OP's question, around here, they are generally rated as small. Quote
+flask Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 FYI, I have never found a cache in a peanut butter jar that has not been wet and stinky... Maybe it's my northern climat, but they are not so waterproof. I've found plenty of peanut butter jar caches that were in fine shape even after a couple of years. Not sure how the smell was cleaned out well enough to keep animals away, though. As for the OP's question, around here, they are generally rated as small. i didn't want to address the issues of the peanut butter jar itself, which have been discussed very thoroughly and dramatically elsewhere. Quote
+markp99 Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 (edited) Sorry to go off-topic. Not to beat a dead horse, and YMMV, I'm thinking it may be that PB Jars sometimes use a waxed cardboard liner inside the lid. This may be the element that is failing with time. I have used a small Nalgene bottle for a geocache. Definitely small, but a convenient form-factor for stuffing into the perfect location. Not much room for swag, but fully waterproof. Edited August 28, 2007 by markp99 Quote
+StarBrand Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 18 oz. I'd go with regular for that. Agreed - I would go with regular. But it does get confusing when some cachers out there are now rating altoid tins as a small......... Quote
+Kit Fox Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 I agree on your cache being "regular sized." You might mention on your cache page narrative that the cache container is an old PB jar, that way you don't have to worry about the "Peanut Allergy Crowd." Peanut Butter Jar Thread Quote
+logonwheeler Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 I would tend to agree with the others and call it as a regular as well. However I think when your container is close to being one size or another the surrounding area and hide location should be considered. For example: If you are not quite sure whether an 18 oz PB jar should be a small or regular, hiding in a large forested area away from much civilization would probably tend itself to being a small. OTOH if you were to place it in a more urban setting where hiding places need to be a little more discreet, regular might be more appropriate. All that to say you could use these guidelines as just a reference when the size is very close to being one or the other. Quote
+IceCreamMan Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!! (IceCreamMan screaming like a little girl) Quote
Dinoprophet Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 18oz would exclude a whole lot of common swag. I'd say "small". Quote
+the hermit crabs Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 18oz would exclude a whole lot of common swag. I'd say "small". I agree: small. We've got a big boxful of what I consider "regular-sized" swag that lately doesn't fit into the small containers that people are starting to list as "regular". Quote
+the hermit crabs Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 I don't have an 18-oz PB jar handy, but I have a bunch of 16-oz ones; I would think that they'd have the same size classification. Here is a picture of a 16-oz PB jar with a bunch of stuff from our "regular-sized swag" box. None of them would fit into the jar: Definitely small. Quote
Mr.Yuck Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 I thought this might be going somewhere else! Never mind then, but do put me in with the "small" people. Quote
+J-Way Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Since there appears to be a difference of opinion (and it's actually on topic!!), I'll vote "small". If you can't accurately picture an 18oz PB jar, buy a 20oz bottle of soda (pop, Coke, Pepsi, etc.). The PB jar will be fatter with a larger opening but much shorter and with less space inside. I see no way to consider this as a "regular" when the definition of "regular" according to the guidelines is something about the size of a .30cal (7.62mm) ammo can. Quote
+Mudfrog Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 I would go with small as well. It would be hard to go wrong with that as there won't be too many people who come along and complain that the cache was bigger than they expected... Quote
+team lagonda Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 that thar depends on what yer definitioin of ''is'' ''is''....small is a very relative term..just ask any lady..if,n she likes ya she,ll morin likely say its purdy big,,if,n she dont she,ll likely say purdy small outta spite.. Quote
+WalruZ Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Around here, "small" is something that holds a cup or two. Anything bigger is regular, but it's subjective. AFA PBJs go, I've always considered them to be a great container, but that's climate dependent. In CA we don't get enough rain to ruin them. Quote
+Kabuthunk Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) If it's in a "grey" area, I'd always want to tend to indicate it as the smaller option. That way, you get people who are extra happy that they found a somewhat larger container than they expected, rather than people who are annoyed about finding a smaller container that won't fit the TB/whatever they hoped to place. My general theory is that if it would be capable of fitting a softball with room to spare, it's a regular. Edited August 31, 2007 by Kabuthunk Quote
+TeamFROG Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 small and I like the idea of posting a note on the cache page that says it's a PB jar! <FROG ducks and runs> Quote
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