+FollowMeChaps Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) Wow - I think I like it, especially the speed - 10/10. Great to see the picture thumbnails with the logs. Not sure that those without broadband will be so happy though, can the attached pics can be turned off? At least they don't print with the PDF or 'printer friendly' options. Didn't they do well!!! Edited May 17, 2007 by FollowMeChaps Quote
+Bambography Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Seems great so far! Also note the 'My Friends' at the top of your account page! Shames theres no explaination of what it is and how to use it. Will have to experiment. Quote
Nediam Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Seems great so far! Also note the 'My Friends' at the top of your account page! Shames theres no explaination of what it is and how to use it. Will have to experiment. Check out this post by Jeremy Quote
+SimonC_Here Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Not so sure about having the spoiler photos pop up automatically on the web page. I think I would like to go and have a look for the cache first before being shown where it is. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...9d-983ef22e2db0 Simon Quote
Nediam Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 There is a "New Site Bugs" post in the "Geocaching.com Web Site" topic. It may be an idea to post any problems found in that topic so TPTB can see them all in one place. Quote
+SimonC_Here Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 There is a "New Site Bugs" post in the "Geocaching.com Web Site" topic. It may be an idea to post any problems found in that topic so TPTB can see them all in one place. Hadn't spotted that thread. Looks like it's been reported anyway. Simon Quote
+4 Badgers Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Absolutely LOVE the speed and the little icons at the bottom of each cache page. Having the same trouble seeking finds of other players, but I realise that's been reported. Like the idea of the 'My Friends' list but will wait a while before I try it out. Well done GC.com! Quote
+chizu Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Great updates - I like the new look of the google maps! Quote
+ZoomLens Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Great stuff all around really. It's much, much better. I'm pleased that they have gotten rid of the old maps, as nobody used them. I like the icons at the bottom of the page too - highlights just how unreliable one of my caches is though!!!! Quote
+The Cache Hoppers Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 I like the icons at the bottom of the page too - highlights just how unreliable one of my caches is though!!!! What little icons? Loving the site and the pics on logs Quote
+chizu Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 What little icons? Loving the site and the pics on logs I assume the post is referring to just above the logs where it says how many founds DNFs etc there have been on the cache page. Greasemonkey script users have had that option for a while, but it did require all logs to be loaded too rather than just the last 5, which could slow things down on very popular caches. Quote
+walkergeoff and wife Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 I like the icons at the bottom of the page too - highlights just how unreliable one of my caches is though!!!! I am not sure what the icons are - are these the ones giving the numbers of finds, dnfs etc, with Smiley icons? Quote
+The Cache Hoppers Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Ahhh thanks ... had them already being a Firefox and Greasemonkey convert which is why that didn't look different. Quote
+walkergeoff and wife Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Ahhh thanks ... had them already being a Firefox and Greasemonkey convert which is why that didn't look different. Ditto! Quote
+Haggis Hunter Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Ahhh thanks ... had them already being a Firefox and Greasemonkey convert which is why that didn't look different. Ditto! But it did look different you had 2 sets of them. I have disabled my Greasemonkey for them now. Is there any other of the Greasemonkey scripts that I have to disable now? Quote
+John Stead Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) Ahhh thanks ... had them already being a Firefox and Greasemonkey convert which is why that didn't look different. Ditto! But it did look different you had 2 sets of them. I have disabled my Greasemonkey for them now. Is there any other of the Greasemonkey scripts that I have to disable now? Another Greasemonkey user - and I prefer the Greasemonkey output of the finder stats as you can at a glance see who has been. Now can the script be amended to eliminate the Groundspeak icons? Also I have disabled my Greasemonkey script which shows the OS map, and can't see any difference in the Groundspeak map display unless I click one ot the mapping options on the left. The big plus I have just found is that PQs are coming through much quicker. I have a daily one to check new caches and it came through at 1030 this morning which is about 12 hours earlier than before. Edited May 17, 2007 by John Stead Quote
+Haggis Hunter Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Also I have disabled my Greasemonkey script which shows the OS map, and can't see any difference in the Groundspeak map display unless I click one ot the mapping options on the left. Can you remind me of the name of the OS map script please? Quote
+chizu Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 When I turn off my OS script, I just get the old style vague undetailed GC map of the area - am I missing something? The one I'm turning off is called "Geocaching UK map substituter" in the list when I right click the monkey. Quote
+Bambography Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 I'm on IE here at work (therefore no GM) and still get the rubbish old mapping. Don't think they changed anything there (sadly) Quote
Edgemaster Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Nice features, so far I have only disabled GC true totals as it's pointless now. The Geocaching.com Google Map is very nice, now shows which caches have been found, even for Non-Premium Members Quote
+PopUpPirate Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Also I have disabled my Greasemonkey script which shows the OS map, and can't see any difference in the Groundspeak map display unless I click one ot the mapping options on the left. Can you remind me of the name of the OS map script please? They're all in here somewhere http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=158853 Quote
+Kryten Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 The unconditional display of spoiler thumbnails and the clever idea to omit any associated warning labels shows just how much forethought went into this upgrade. Quote
Edgemaster Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 The unconditional display of spoiler thumbnails and the clever idea to omit any associated warning labels shows just how much forethought went into this upgrade. They needed to fix the thumbnailing though, it was broken in internet explorer 7. The lightbox is nice, but they probably should have left captions on the cache page, allowing people to click to see. Generally, some great updates, we'll just have to wait until the weekend to see if the database server has helped! Quote
+FollowMeChaps Posted May 17, 2007 Author Posted May 17, 2007 As a non-tecccie I'm getting a bit confused (I know; easily done!). On my home PC this morning using Firefox with Greasemonkey scripts I saw all the pictures attached to the listing page at the foot of the listing. Now at work I don't see them, they are still attachments, in both IE and Firefox. What's going on? If we are seeing different things using different settings/applications then we will be confusing each other in this thread. Quote
+RoswellJam Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Great updates - I like the new look of the google maps! I think I have missed something What new look? I hate missing out on stuff! Quote
+Bambography Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) Great updates - I like the new look of the google maps! I think I have missed something What new look? I hate missing out on stuff! Visit any cache page and click on the Geocaching Google Maps link next to the rubbish default map. Theres new icons and bubbles that show if you have found the cache or not. LINK <Edit - Link added> Edited May 17, 2007 by Bambography Quote
+Mr Nibbler Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 I can't see any thumbnails in either IE 7 or Firefox 2.0.0.3 Quote
+Mr'D Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 2 hours ago I saw small photos under each log entry where a photo had been posted. Now it's just a thumbnail? Quote
+Stuey Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 I'm pleased that they have gotten rid of the old maps, as nobody used them. Speak for yourself. The old maps were infinitely better for seeing where the bug had been. Quote
+Stuey Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 2 hours ago I saw small photos under each log entry where a photo had been posted. Now it's just a thumbnail? I'm on IE6 and the log pages are exactly the same. Hmmmmm? Quote
+*mouse* Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) I used to be able to hover my cusor over the little icon next to a photo link and bring up a preview of the photo - that facility has now gone. Also not getting the photos on the cache page like some others have mentioned..... I'm running IE, would that make a difference do you think?? edited to say I just noticed this fault has alredy been posted on the main bugs post.... loving the speed of the site now though - much quicker!! Edited May 17, 2007 by *mouse* Quote
The Birches Head Hunters Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Great updates - I like the new look of the google maps! I think I have missed something What new look? I hate missing out on stuff! Visit any cache page and click on the Geocaching Google Maps link next to the rubbish default map. Theres new icons and bubbles that show if you have found the cache or not. LINK <Edit - Link added> Wow - Thanks. I never even knew these maps existed. Great! Quote
+harrogate hunters Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 I am on IE7 !!! The thumbnail pictures are not automatically displayed... but when I click on them it grays out the geocaching page and a picture pops up... Can I swap to thumbnails ??? Have I got a setting wrong ? Help please Quote
+Dorsetgal & GeoDog Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Bah Humbug! Bring back the old maps please! They're far better at following the trail of TBs with. Quote
+Mr'D Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 I am on IE7 !!! The thumbnail pictures are not automatically displayed... but when I click on them it grays out the geocaching page and a picture pops up... That's what I got now. Using Firefox here, but a few hours ago piccys were automatically displayed under each cache log. Apart from displayiing spolier photos, it looked pretty cool. Quote
+harrogate hunters Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Just found another new feature.... when you log a find onto a cache it then tells you what type of cache you have found !! MMMmmmm maybe not so useful Quote
+wigglesworth Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 I love the summary icons for number of visits; DNFs etc. Will wait to see how the pictures finally work out - it is different now from what it was first thing this morning. All in all - great job! Peter Quote
Alan White Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 I feel a bit like the little boy looking at the emperor's new clothes I can see only three changes. The log summary: pretty, and possibly even useful, but hardly earth-shattering. The "friends" feature which, like the rest of the changes, haven't been explained by Groundspeak. Possibly useful, but if I want to see other people's caching stats I can just go to their profile. I think this is probably a precursor to the much-discussed hiding of other people's stats, unless you're a "friend". Worst of all, the change to the way images are displayed, which is awful. The previous way of being able to see the image by hovering the mouse over the icon was much quicker and useful. A side-effect of this last change is that the image caption now appears with a line break between it and the image, making it appear as though the caption belongs to the following image. It's too early to comment on the promised speed improvements but I can't say I've noticed anything obvious. Quote
Alan White Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Two more things: When logging a cache there's now a - completely unnecessary - description of the cache type. At home this is merely a visual distraction but on a low-speed or charged connection (GPRS, WiFi etc, on holiday) this could be time-consuming and costly. The feature of remembering the date between logs is broken. It seems entirely random whether it does or doesn't remember. Quote
+Happy Humphrey Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 I feel a bit like the little boy looking at the emperor's new clothes I can see only three changes. The log summary: pretty, and possibly even useful, but hardly earth-shattering. The "friends" feature which, like the rest of the changes, haven't been explained by Groundspeak. Possibly useful, but if I want to see other people's caching stats I can just go to their profile. I think this is probably a precursor to the much-discussed hiding of other people's stats, unless you're a "friend". Worst of all, the change to the way images are displayed, which is awful. The previous way of being able to see the image by hovering the mouse over the icon was much quicker and useful. A side-effect of this last change is that the image caption now appears with a line break between it and the image, making it appear as though the caption belongs to the following image. It's too early to comment on the promised speed improvements but I can't say I've noticed anything obvious. Two more things: When logging a cache there's now a - completely unnecessary - description of the cache type. At home this is merely a visual distraction but on a low-speed or charged connection (GPRS, WiFi etc, on holiday) this could be time-consuming and costly. The feature of remembering the date between logs is broken. It seems entirely random whether it does or doesn't remember. You're posting to the wrong thread - I don't think that Groundspeak will notice your criticism tucked away in the UK section! I guess you're in a bad mood so perhaps I shouldn't reply : but as far as I recall the promise was for an upgrade to improve the web site response rather than a promise of a host of earth-shattering features. I'm surprised that there are as amny as three changes. The "friends" feature is something I've always wanted, and has nothing to do with hiding of other people's stats (see the explanation here). I like the log summary, I agree it's useful and not earth shattering (but so what?). I don't understand your complaint about the image caption so I can't comment. I agree about the description of the cache type which seems rather pointless. I must say that the speed improvement was pretty obvious to me. HH Quote
+Alibags Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Just when I was enjoying the log image thumbnails, they have been removed again. Weird! The cache description in the log page doesn't worry me, but I did think it was a bit strange... "Yes I know, I have just found it, that's why I am logging it!!" I like the finds/dnfs others summary, that's very interesting. The whole thing seems faster... lets put that to the test when I try to do my logging on Sunday! Quote
+walkergeoff and wife Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 I really miss the images displaying when hovering over the icon, and think the current replacement to be a bit clunky and time consuming - you have to wait for it to load, and then close in manually. Hovering was much more suitable for a quick glance, leaving it optional to open the picture if one wanted to. Quote
Alan White Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 You're posting to the wrong threadUh? This thread is entitled "New site Upgrade. Wow!". It seems a very appropriate place to comment. I guess you're in a bad mood Not at all (well, no more than usual ). I just wanted to counter the general euphoria by pointing out that actually the emperor may not be as well clothed as everyone else seems to think he is . The "friends" feature is something I've always wanted, and has nothing to do with hiding of other people's statsYet... Jeremy has long expressed his distaste for the statistics side of the game. He's already said that the find count on people's logs will be removed at some point. And many people have expressed a wish to hide their stats from others by not showing them on their profile page. I see the friends feature as providing the groundwork to enable the stats to be shown only to those who've been approved as a friend. Of course, I could be wrong. Time will tell. I like the log summary, I agree it's usefulIt would be even more useful if it were correct. This cache has just been archived and the archived log appears in the summary. With a count of zero... And the summary includes deleted logs. This cache has only one note but the summary says two. The extra note is one I put on to drop a TB, which I immediately deleted (the note, not the TB ) I don't understand your complaint about the image caption so I can't comment.Have a look at this cache. Each caption refers to the image above it but the caption is closer to the image below it. I must say that the speed improvement was pretty obvious to me.The test of planned performance improvements is when the system is running at full load. Sunday afternoon will be a better indication, but even at the moment I don't see much gain. Some of today's PQs have arrived already, which is unusual for a Friday, but I don't know if that's specifically a result of the upgrade. Quote
+scottpa100 Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Groundspeak said in their in their actual website update log that it is just a minor code update and the main thing is to get the website on to a different hardware platform. Maybe we're just expecting too many thing from this 'minor code' update? Quote
+Simply Paul Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Just when I was enjoying the log image thumbnails, they have been removed again. Weird! No Ali, they were a bad idea. Instant spoiler photos can't be a good thing. Losing the 'hover and popup' feature (which only ever half-worked in my IE7 anyway) is a shame though. Generally I like the changes -especially to the geocache icons on google maps- but there's nothing to get too excited about. I'm not getting the Wow factor, but it might arrive if I can log my finds on Sunday evening without fighting GCs servers every inch of the way. Quote
Deceangi Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Just to explain about Deleted logs being included in the log count. Logs are not actually deleted from the system but Archived. And are still visible to Groundspeak staff and Reviewers. So when the system counts each type of log it will include Archived logs as they are still attached to the Cache. The next time you have reason to delete a log from a cache, have a look at the top right of the page after the action has been completed by the system in in red you will see the word Archived. Quote
+Happy Humphrey Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Uh? This thread is entitled "New site Upgrade. Wow!". It seems a very appropriate place to comment. I suppose it's as good a place as any if you just want to grumble generally about the upgrade but not actually let Groundspeak know what it is you don't like. I just wanted to counter the general euphoria by pointing out that actually the emperor may not be as well clothed as everyone else seems to think he is . Well, the emperor was supposed to be riding a bike rather than walking (contriving to keep the metaphor going): the upgrade was meant to improve the site performance. So his clothing is not so important! It would be even more useful if it were correct. There seem to be several bugs: the Geocaching Web Site forum is the place to look The test of planned performance improvements is when the system is running at full load. Sunday afternoon will be a better indication, but even at the moment I don't see much gain. Some of today's PQs have arrived already, which is unusual for a Friday, but I don't know if that's specifically a result of the upgrade. I noticed that web pages appeared faster than previously, and there were none of the server timeouts which have been the main problem recently (even when the server shouldn't have been at full load). But I agree that Sunday will be the real test. Quote
+careygang Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 I'm pleased that they have gotten rid of the old maps, as nobody used them. Speak for yourself. The old maps were infinitely better for seeing where the bug had been. Agreed. The 'new' maps are not nearly as good as the old one for a representation of where a TB has been... Quote
Alan White Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 Just to explain about Deleted logs being included in the log count. Logs are not actually deleted from the system but Archived. And are still visible to Groundspeak staff and Reviewers. So when the system counts each type of log it will include Archived logs as they are still attached to the Cache. The next time you have reason to delete a log from a cache, have a look at the top right of the page after the action has been completed by the system in in red you will see the word Archived. I know that, but counting such logs in a summary is at least misleading and at worst wrong. If the detail can't be seen then the summary shouldn't include it. Seems common sense to me. Quote
Alan White Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 let Groundspeak know what it is you don't like. There isn't really a lot of point in doing that. I mention the things I've found so that others here will know about them and so be able to, where possible, ignore, avoid or work round them. Quote
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