SirBizzle Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 So, after a year I have completed a documentary about Geocaching. It's called Geocache (oddly enough) and I am hoping to get it seen nationally. The show is about 30 minutes and it is being received pretty well. I am hoping to get it into festivals and perhaps PBS. We'll see. For more info, go to www.geofilm.net. Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Hey! Lookee there! They made a movie and I'm in it! Ya gotta look quick though! Half-way through I started to get the feeling that it was the best 'reasons to not allow geocaching' movie I had ever seen, but by the end it carried a great message and fairly represented all sides. Great work, I hope you get it published. Quote Link to comment
+Zartimus Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I just saw the screener(thanks for that), I liked it a lot. It was great to see the lady with the 16,000 finds (now it all makes sense). The points made by the park rangers were valid, as were the points made by the cachers. Excellent of you to show both sides like that. I was fun to see some names I've encountered in the forums and on ClayJar's chats on the small screen. Ditto for the original can-o-beans! Loved the police stories! Quote Link to comment
SirBizzle Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 Glad you liked the film. And it is doing pretty well. Right now I am awaiting responses from about 25 film festivals to see if it will be accepted. Also, I just found out it is going to be aired on PBS in not too long. I am pretty pleased about this, but loads of paperwork for no money. Basically I am self distributing since it is near impossible to sell a stand alone program. So do spread the word. David www.geofilm.net Quote Link to comment
BlazerMan Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 I just received the DVD in the mail, and wanted to say that I'm quite impressed by the video quality especially in the nature scenes. It was cool to see all those cachers that I know through GeoWoodstock 4. I thought it might be useful to list the chapter titles: Opening Think Like the Hider Addictive Big Numbers Selective Availability Origins GeoWoodstock 4 One Degree of Separation Community and Family Geocoins and Travelbugs Micro and Cache Run Stay On the Trail Natural Parks Run-in With the Law Screen Identity A Healthy Pursuit End Credits I'm also listing all of the geocachers I've been able to identify in the film. Some of these people are interviewed, some just show up in the background. Bikely & Wifely Binrat BlazerMan CCCooperAgency Clan Mroczko Dark Star Dave Ulmer DLiming fluffy&itchy GeoPirat GeoWorms Greasepot grey_wolf & momcat H2Nut HoustonControl IceCreamMan Jeremy JOYROSE AND HUBBY BULL jtee kimbest KingJR klce Leapin' Lee McDLT Moun10Bike Mtn-Man Nate Irish NetworkCacher paintfiction R.O.B. Roland_oso sardogmisty shirconn Snoogans Tahosa and Sons Team Shydog Team U-turn Team360 Tennessee Jed TheAlabamaRambler Travis Rollins TX Diva txfiredog Zartimus ZSandmann Persied88 is mentioned and the film shows a few of his caches. Quote Link to comment
+team moxiepup Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Sounds great! Please let us know when it is going to be aired on PBS. We'll be sure to tune in. Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Already been done before: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0818650/ Quote Link to comment
+fluffy&itchy Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Already been done before: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0818650/ I must respectfully dissagree with your statement above. I saw the "Adventures in Geocaching" documentary at the screening on Friday night before GW5. While I did enjoy it, in my opinion, it was a bit negative on the sport and made us look like a bunch of OCD buffoons. It was entertaining though and I sure wouldn't have wanted to be Ventura Kids at the after party David Liban's "Geocaching" documentary, while not totally positive, was not totally negative either. It was a bit misleading when the County Mountie was talking about geocachers causing wilderness distruction by making geotrails. Then it cut to the cache run at the reservoir and had R.O.B. saying "we can cut across the field and take a short cut, or go on the road, but that will take a little longer". I was on that run and the place we were at (Benbrook, just outside Dallas somewhere) was a completely open place where we could basically go wherever we wanted to get to the caches. Geotrails were not an issue at all. Since I was there when it was filmed, I knew the difference, but for anyone else who wasn't, it looked like we had made the point of the Officer for him. But in the end, the NWRA guy ended up saying geocaching was good because it got people into the back country and help teach them about geography. I thought his statement about that was kind of funny since he had spent the rest of the film talking about why geocaching was bad for the backcountry In the end, I was just glad they got a record of me on film for the day we went to Benbrook on "Rob's Run". Since I nearly died of heat stroke near the end of that run, (we walked for 8 hours in 104 degree heat), having something on film at least would have proved I was there before I went 10 toes up. BTW, I did buy David's DVD. Couldn't pass it up since I knew there was a distinct possibilty he might have made me and itchy/Jed movie stars Little did I know, I would be in such exhaulted company After seeing what the camera did to my obviously non-exhistant girlish figure, I now wish I had hidden behind the bushes and kept my mouth shut. Yeah, that's me... the BIG blue blob. But, hey, I was in the early stages of dellirium brought on by the fast approching heat stroke. Man, did I have a great time (at least what I can remember of it) Quote Link to comment
SirBizzle Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Thanks for the posting and glad you liked the movie. Also happy you posted the chapters so people can get an idea about the topics covered in the film. Quote Link to comment
SirBizzle Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Fluffy, Thanks for your feedback about my film. Although I have not seen Adventures in Geocaching I'd like to believe my film attempts to explore the topic without an agenda. I didn't want to suggest negative or positive but to let the viewer decide. As I understand it, that is the goal of a documentary, to document it without editorializing on the topic. That said, it is impossible to do so. The simple process of editing content you have to choose material to clarify the points you are trying to explore. Also when someone knows they are on camera, they behave differently, thus not entirely themselves. I concur with your point about the point where Rob is giving options about going off trail. But in order to make a documentary, you have to show things at times that may or may not be entirely factual. To defend my decision, from my point of view, we started out on trail, and all of a sudden everyone started walking through the prairie where there was no trail. There were no signs saying not to, but the fact is, everyone went off trail. That was the decision made by the group. Also because it was completely open, does not mean people should leave the trails. I don't know the rules of that park we were in, but I needed to show something that would make clear the point of Ranger being interviewed. But, I did try to be fair to both sides in my presentation. BTW, I really do appreciate both your involvment in the film and your feedback. Really good commets. Also, right now I am working on the subtitles for the DVD and also on the closed captioning in preparation for the PBS airing. David Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 (edited) I just received the DVD in the mail, and wanted to say that I'm quite impressed by the video quality especially in the nature scenes. It was cool to see all those cachers that I know through GeoWoodstock 4. I thought it might be useful to list the chapter titles: Opening Think Like the Hider Addictive Big Numbers Selective Availability Origins GeoWoodstock 4 One Degree of Separation Community and Family Geocoins and Travelbugs Micro and Cache Run Stay On the Trail Natural Parks Run-in With the Law Screen Identity A Healthy Pursuit End Credits I'm also listing all of the geocachers I've been able to identify in the film. Some of these people are interviewed, some just show up in the background. Bikely & Wifely Binrat BlazerMan CCCooperAgency Clan Mroczko Dark Star Dave Ulmer DLiming fluffy&itchy GeoPirat GeoWorms Greasepot grey_wolf & momcat H2Nut HoustonControl IceCreamMan Jeremy JOYROSE AND HUBBY BULL jtee kimbest KingJR klce Leapin' Lee McDLT Moun10Bike Mtn-Man Nate Irish NetworkCacher paintfiction R.O.B. Roland_oso sardogmisty shirconn Snoogans Tahosa and Sons Team Shydog Team U-turn Team360 Tennessee Jed TheAlabamaRambler Travis Rollins TX Diva txfiredog Zartimus ZSandmann Persied88 is mentioned and the film shows a few of his caches. After viewing the finished product twice, I can only clap and wish I'd had time to help David out more. I turned down an on camera interview in favor of being shot in a natural setting. I'm a little shy of video cameras in my face, (I've actually been trained by my company to avoid them) but I felt he did us all proud. I cheered to see my friend Ranboze in the documentary at GW5, but honestly, David's video was better in most ways. It should be showed off at GW6 since some of it was shot at GW4. I actually thought the scheduled documentary at GW5 was THIS one, or I would have offered up my copy to be shown with the others. Edited June 15, 2007 by Snoogans Quote Link to comment
+Ranger Boy Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I saw this documentary on my PBS station in Milwaukee, Wisconsin this week. Nicely done, hadn't considered the OCD angle before. Quote Link to comment
weston5 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) I was flipping channels around 10:20pm on 12/26/07 and came upon a Bob Newhart profile on the local PBS station, Pittsburgh - WQED. Wondering how long the profile was since I like Bob Newhart, I checked the on-screen guide...only 10 minutes left. But, guess what show was next? Yep. I quickly set the recorder so the kids could watch since they were already sleeping. Thought the show was better than OK, but not great. Although a relative newbie (only caching for less than 6 months and not obsessing over it...yet), I'm glad I had some experience to fall back on to relate to the show. I'm not sure I would get what geocaching was all about if I had never heard of it before. I enjoyed it more when I watched it again with the kids last night. The flames from Ranger Rick(s) didn't seem as negative the second time around. That all being said, the show did get us excited for our next cache run. Edited December 28, 2007 by weston5 Quote Link to comment
+Mopar Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Thought the show was better than OK, but not great. Although a relative newbie (only caching for less than 6 months and not obsessing over it...yet), I'm glad I had some experience to fall back on to relate to the show. I'm not sure I would get what geocaching was all about if I had never heard of it before. As new as you are, you are way more experienced then the guy who made the show. As seems to usually be the case, the OP found a few caches, got all excited about it and made a film where he found a few more. After it came out and he got paid he lost all interest and hasn't logged onto the site since. Quote Link to comment
+Rattlebars Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Can someone please post the actual name of the show so I can search for it on our program guide. I know it was shown here recently because I heard about it. Is it named "GEOCACHE"?? If so, I can't find it in the program guide so maybe they won't rerun it. THX Quote Link to comment
weston5 Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Yes, it is just called "Geocache". Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Yes, it is just called "Geocache". I have a copy. Here is the website if you want one. Quote Link to comment
+joranda Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 To bad the trailer wasn't longer. Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 To bad the trailer wasn't longer. I played it on the big screen at my most recently hosted event and everyone agreed that it was well balanced between the positive and negative aspects. Several of the folks that were in it were also AT that event as well. Quote Link to comment
+Illinois Bill Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 To bad the trailer wasn't longer. How long like 30 or 45 minutes...hehehehehehe Quote Link to comment
+gh patriot Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I saw the second half of the video and I thought that it was very well done. Quote Link to comment
+KJcachers Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 time to order a copy. Quote Link to comment
SirBizzle Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 Actually, I did not get paid to make this film. I make my bread and butter teaching production. I only made the film because I was interested in it. And though I am not a geocacher, I felt I needed to do it a few times so I could get a sense of what the activity was like. I was really focusing on the sport and the people who play it. As a documentarian, I must research a topic, and in making a film, I learn about the topic. I do sell the DVD various places, but believe me the few dollars I get from the sale of the DVD's does not come close to the investment I made in making the film. But I do appreciate your enthusiasm and love the sport. David! Quote Link to comment
SirBizzle Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 Oh, and one more thing. The people I met at GeoWoodstock and other Cachers around Colorado were some of the nicest and generous folks I've encountered. I truly enjoyed meeting them and seeing them at play! Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Oh, and one more thing. The people I met at GeoWoodstock and other Cachers around Colorado were some of the nicest and generous folks I've encountered. I truly enjoyed meeting them and seeing them at play! I thought it was a cool thing to do - done accurately and fairly and at great effort. Check your PMs for an invite to publish a story on how all this came about in The Online Geocacher, I am sure there's an interesting tale that should be told! Quote Link to comment
+svladcjelli Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 you should have a free streaming copy of the film, it can only help your cause Quote Link to comment
+KeeperOfTheMist Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 definately agreed. after dishing out for everything elses there is nothing left to get a copy of this. and i dont trust trailers (not by big corp or small barely funded producers) so unless by rare chance i get to see it on local PBS (ha ha on that) i guess im just gonna miss out unless its streamed. also others would rather watch before they buy (mpaa and ria disagree, but they are greedy).. would love to see after others reviews but hey we all cant have money lined pockets Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 definately agreed. after dishing out for everything elses there is nothing left to get a copy of this. and i dont trust trailers (not by big corp or small barely funded producers) so unless by rare chance i get to see it on local PBS (ha ha on that) i guess im just gonna miss out unless its streamed. also others would rather watch before they buy (mpaa and ria disagree, but they are greedy).. would love to see after others reviews but hey we all cant have money lined pockets Oh good grief. The "I can't save/budget for non-essential product X so you should give it to me for free" argument. Quote Link to comment
+KeeperOfTheMist Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) definately agreed. after dishing out for everything elses there is nothing left to get a copy of this. and i dont trust trailers (not by big corp or small barely funded producers) so unless by rare chance i get to see it on local PBS (ha ha on that) i guess im just gonna miss out unless its streamed. also others would rather watch before they buy (mpaa and ria disagree, but they are greedy).. would love to see after others reviews but hey we all cant have money lined pockets Oh good grief. The "I can't save/budget for non-essential product X so you should give it to me for free" argument. oh good grief another person having to make a useless comment about my useless comment that no one will listen to.. thank you for wasting time.. and btw food is more important right now, i mean you can't geocache dead now can you.. and i never said GIVE it to us. i said i agree that a streaming version (even if not complete, ever watch a real screener, not all the movie is there) would be nice and may help with sales. also i am one of those that buy it when i can actually afford it so nyaa. back on topic.. maybe a better trailer then a 1 minute that covers really nothing but the opinion cachers are geeks (don't disagree buuut still). Edited February 11, 2010 by KeeperOfTheMist Quote Link to comment
SirBizzle Posted February 12, 2010 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 I do appreciate that you want to see the film and perhaps cannot afford the DVD. Also, you should know that PBS pays me nothing to air it, and they can air it whenever the please. So perhaps do contact your PBS station and request it. The only way I've been able to see a way for recouping my losses was through DVD sales, and essentially, PBS is my advertisement for the show. I am not adverse to 'donating' a DVD here and there, especially to the people who participate on this forum, but if it goes on YouTube or something like that, the likelihood is that it would damage potential income. I did start to make a digital download available, but Amazon was charging $1.99. I cleared .40. - Also, know after a few years, I'll post it on Vimeo myself. Thanks for your understanding, David Quote Link to comment
+KeeperOfTheMist Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 awsome guy you are definately.. can't wait till it hits public via you or i have the income again to afford it.. im sure this will be an outstanding conversation piece to have with me and my laptop when out travelling (another when i can afford to). i was thinking more of streaming on the sales site (no way to youtube definately). hope my local pbs will show it. will try and get in touch though if i dont get a main person any messages seem to get lost around these parts XD ). Quote Link to comment
+burgessfour Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Here is one that just aired last week, filmed in Oregon http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/segments/view/1737 Quote Link to comment
+NeecesandNephews Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) About the last posted Oregon film... Ok I am not film critic but puhhhleaaase. The guy used the word "treasure" at least five times, told the world there are coins to be found, and even showed the tracking number of one long enough to write it down!!!! I realize anyone in the world can get online and find out the coins are out there, but when this happens you are informing everyone they can go find hidden treasure!!! I mean every thief in the world is smart enough to know a bank has cash, but this is like advertising they are going to have a big shipment on Friday!! I gotta appreciate the film in certain aspects though!!! They pointed out the integrity part!!! I'm sure that is the message that stuck! Overall??? Thumbs down on this one. Just my opinion!! edit to add comment Edited February 12, 2010 by NeecesandNephews Quote Link to comment
+brodiebunch Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 The trailer looked good. I will wait until it comes on NetFlix to watch it Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I attended a few 10 Years! events this weekend and was told by several cachers there that they had seen me on TV.I was perplexed until they mentioned this Documentary. Apparently it was on either or both? Discovery Channel and Travel Channel this past weekend. Quote Link to comment
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