Has Anyone Else Had Problems With This Cacher?

[+deetylong]

I just had the following e-mail exchange with. I don't think I've ever had anyone behave like this before. Have other people had problems with her, or am I really that bad?

 

For those of you who don't know, Geocaching.com archived all locationless caches at the turn of the year. My cache only allowed one finder per mosque. I've been cross-checking the big rush of last minute entries for duplicates, and found that hers was one. Below is the exchange . . .

 

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-- Copy of email sent to *** *****--

Hello,

 

I'm DeetyLong, owner of the "World Mosques" locationless cache. Thank

you very much for taking the time to log it.

 

Unfortunately, the mosque you entered was already found on October 06,

2005 on by "Steve Brown", so I'm afraid I'll have to delete your entry.

 

Sorry for the inconvenience,

 

-DeetyLong

 

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--- *********@aol.com wrote:

 

> Oh, Gee, thanks for waiting til they're archived to

> notify me so I can't do

> anything about it.

>

> Thanks!

 

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Hello! you logged it on Dec. 30! I'm sorry I didn't

stay home on New Year's Eve searching through 400+

entries to see if yours matched.

 

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--- **********@aol.com wrote:

 

> No, but you could have searched up to 3 different

> days and still found it in

> time for me to find another one. If you didn' t

> want the responsibility of

> checking the many locationless cache logs that came

> in in the last days you

> should have archived it early and taken the 6 months

> free premium membership

> that gc offered and saved EVERYONE the bother.

>

> Thanks for being a bad cache owner.

 

__________

 

Are you crazy? YOU should be the one looking to see if

someone else has found it already! Is one find really

that important to you?

 

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--- **********@aol.com wrote:

 

> I'm just saying, you could have done this days ago

> and waited till no one

> could do anything about it to make the decision.

>

> I did a word search. I found nothing. I did what I

> could do. I'm sorry it

> wasn't up to your standards. But if your standards

> are so freaking high you

> should be more on the ball about it.

__________

 

If you think requiring no duplicates is "freaking

high" standards, I don't think you're being realistic.

 

__________

 

Whatever. As I said before, I did a search and didn't find one. I guarantee that if whoever someone logged it they didn't identify it properly in their log. I also guarantee that SOMETIME between December 30th and the time that the locationless caches were logged the day before yesterday you had time to look at them, but didn't. My guess is you even saw it but decided to screw people over just for fun. You do that. Have fun. Oops. You did. And you did. Whatever.

Edited January 6, 2006 by deetylong

[+cachew nut]

I don't think it's fair to the other party to post those emails here, my opinion.

[+Airmapper]

Take the names and email address out, and you'll make the mods glad

[+deetylong]

Sorry, didn't think of that - name removed. Guess I can't find out if others have been having problems, though.

Edited January 6, 2006 by deetylong

[+Buddaman]

Oh man what kind of cheese do you want with your whine! get over it and move on. I never really liked locationless caches, Yes I done a couple but to me it takes the fun out of it.three of the ones I found I logged from inside my car.but to each there own I guess.so thas my rant.

 

But I do think you should not have posted a e-mail just to get people to be on your side in a war over caches you can't log no more.

[+Miragee]

Geocaching seems to interest many wonderful, generous, kind, and fun people.

 

However, other types of people are also involved in Geocaching. Since your communication involved a Locationless cache, that person is probably not in your local Geocaching community and for that you can be very thankful . . .

[+BlueDeuce]

After the first response I think I could have figure out that replying would be a waste of time. If people want to be petty, walk away. The whole thing would have ended right there.

[+Sagefox]

The cacher attempting this locationless cache has no valid basis for their complaint. A reasonable person knows that they need to search through the locationless found logs to see if the proposed location has already been logged. (Some locationless caches allowed multiple logging of a specific location but that condition was noted on those cache pages)

 

Finding a locationless target is only half the work - logging it requires verifying that it has not been logged by someone else. And... this cacher knew that 12/31 was the published end date. It is unreasonable to expect that a locationless cache owner would be anywhere near a computer during the new year holiday time. Late finds come with a risk.

 

I think most cachers get po'd at some time or other. It is probably best if we write down our complaints with all the raw emotion included and then just don't press the send button.

[+carleenp]

Cachers should read the page and do the work to be sure that they are not duplicate logging a locationless in my mind. If they do, it is the owner's right to refuse it.

 

With that said, it really isn't worth the worry. I suggest just letting it drop and not worry about it. Don't respond and let it go. Nothing can be done anyway. No reason to dwell on it or get angry.

[+joefrog]

Personally, I see his point. I owned "Dash for Cache," and I'm STILL sorting through 175+ logs for the last two or three days of the cache. I've deleted several, and will be deleting a few more before I'm through, I'd wager. I try to be fair -- and that means treating everyone the same. If was already found, it's found and can't be repeated.

[Keystone]

As a cache reviewer, I was able to look at the deleted log. Everything made perfect sense to me at that point.

 

I would drop it and move on. You acted properly. Thank you for honoring your maintenance obligations as a locationless cache owner.

[+LadeBear68]

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Edited January 6, 2006 by LadeBear68

[4wheelin_fool]

Are the archived caches locked? Perhaps they could still log a find on another mosque.

[+Lil Devil]

Yes they were all locked.

[+Team GPSaxophone]

Are the archived caches locked? Perhaps they could still log a find on another mosque.

6 months of warning that all locationless were being archived wasn't enough time? Sorry, you snooze you lose.

[+Doc-Dean]

DeetyLong - Let it go. Get on with your life and don't let nonsense like this slow you down.

[+JohnnyVegas]

The guy is an idiot, forget about it and just fo caching

[+AuntieWeasel]

Thanks for posting it, anyhow. Nothing brightens my morning like following a crabby email exchange.

 

Seriously. I love to watch people misbehave.

[+Vinny & Sue Team]

Cachers should read the page and do the work to be sure that they are not duplicate logging a locationless in my mind. If they do, it is the owner's right to refuse it.

 

With that said, it really isn't worth the worry. I suggest just letting it drop and not worry about it. Don't respond and let it go. Nothing can be done anyway. No reason to dwell on it or get angry.

Yes, well put. If I had been the owner, after taking one look at the "finder's" first e-mail reply, I would have ignored her -- she was obviusly trying to bait the cache owner and start a hissy fight. Some people like that kind of stuff. I do not.

[+Thrak]

The address had @aol.com in it. Since that is the case I would discount it completely anyway.

[bogleman]

The biggest problem was reading the email that was sent and then replying to it. I have vented before and quickly let it go. ERAGE similar to road rage but you don't even have to see the other person. Take a deep breath and move along.

[+Renegade Knight]

They did a good job not taking responsiblity for following the logging rules and putting the blame on you as an owner.

 

I've had issues like that before and I stick to my guns. Why belittle the work other caches did following your rules by letting someone else skip them? Since the cache is archived it won't be an issue any longer.

 

A handy tip: If you want them to shut the heck up and leave you alone, let them have the last word. It works like a charm most of the time. If they really did want a responce it also puts them in the position of rethinking what they are saying to you since they now want a responce and their last effort didn't work.

[+edscott]

If you get a nasty email let it ferment for 24 hours. By then you will realize there is an idiot at the other end and you can just ignore it.

[Jeremy]

One of the built-in features for waymarks is that it alerts you as the waymark category manager and the waymark submitter to a nearby listing. It's just one of many reasons why locationless caches didn't work so well on the geocaching site. Better than that, the next finder can still post a log entry for the item even if they weren't the first to mark it.

[+Pablo Mac]

If you want them to shut the heck up and leave you alone, let them have the last word.  It works like a  charm most of the time.  If they really did want a responce it also puts them in the position of rethinking what they are saying to you since they now want a responce and their last effort didn't work.

There is a concept full of wisdom and maturity.

[+woodsters]

Was a find on your locationless worth the hassle? lol... I would of deleted it, let them vent and moved on...ok, no i wouldn't but I guess it would be the best thing to do!

[+Bill & Tammy]

deetylong:

 

Your thread was titled "Has Anyone Else Had Problems With This Cacher?" As it happens I do know the cacher to whom you are referring. And in my experience and to my mind she is a top-notch cacher and a wonderful individual who has unselfishly contributed much to geocaching in my area. Although I don't know you I am sure you are also a good cacher who has in turn given of yourself to further the sport/hobby as evident by the time you took in overseeing your locationless.

 

I hope you can put this far behind you and move on. The funny thing is I'd bet you'd get along quite well if you ever happen to meet each other on the caching trail.

 

Bill of B&T

[+Miragee]

Uh . . . Okay.

 

Did you read what she said? All that drama for one little smilie?

--- *********@aol.com wrote:

 

> Oh, Gee, thanks for waiting til they're archived to

> notify me so I can't do 

> anything about it.

> 

> Thanks!

 

--- **********@aol.com wrote:

 

> No, but you could have searched up to 3 different

> days and still found it  in

> time for me to find another one.  If you didn' t

> want the responsibility  of

> checking the many locationless cache logs that came

> in in the last days you 

> should have archived it early and taken the 6 months

> free premium membership 

> that gc offered and saved EVERYONE the bother.

> 

> Thanks for being a bad cache owner.

 

__--- **********@aol.com wrote:

 

> I'm just saying, you could have done this days ago

> and waited till no one 

> could do anything about it to make the decision.

> 

> I did a word search.  I found nothing.  I did what I

> could  do.  I'm sorry it

> wasn't up to your standards.  But if your standards

> are so freaking high you

> should be more on the ball about it. 

__________

 

Whatever.  As I said before, I did a search and didn't find one.  I guarantee that if whoever someone logged it they didn't identify it properly in their log.  I also guarantee that SOMETIME between December 30th and the time that the locationless caches were logged the day before yesterday you had time to look at them, but didn't.  My guess is you even saw it but decided to screw people over just for fun.  You do that.  Have fun.  Oops.  You did.  And you did.  Whatever.

[gridlox]

Are the archived caches locked? Perhaps they could still log a find on another mosque.

6 months of warning that all locationless were being archived wasn't enough time? Sorry, you snooze you lose.

Locationless have been archived!?!

 

Since when?

 

 

 

 

 

D-man