+zcubed Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Looks like somebody singled out some local cachers. M&P Anyone else seen something like this happen? I can't blame them for giving up, but I was hoping to do some of their caches. Link to comment
Stony2008 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 what the heck Ive never seen it. someone really doesn't like em thats for sure (I guess it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out) Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) It looks like it's not just their caches that are going missing. I pulled lists of nearest caches to their cachess and several people's caches are missing. Edited March 16, 2005 by sbell111 Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 What a shame. That's their thanks for making the effort to provide the rest of us with a little fun. Link to comment
+Camo-crazed Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 that would stink to have someone do that to your caches, and there were so many too Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 It looks like it's not just their caches that are going missing. I pulled lists of nearest caches to their cachess and several people's caches are missing. Yeah, looks like an orgainzed effort on the part of one, or several people. Link to comment
Stony2008 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 maybe theres more going on than meets the eye. thread maybe its like a cult or something? Link to comment
+zcubed Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 They were all good caches too. I've heard several times from different people that all their caches were fun to do, clever hides. Too bad. I hope it ends with them. Link to comment
+WARedBear Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I'm affraid I would be staking-out my caches.... Link to comment
Stony2008 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 maybe you should temporarily remove and disable the caches you have hidden until thing settle down a bit. Link to comment
Go-mad-Cow Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I'd set some bear traps....that'll teach em. Link to comment
gridlox Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 (edited) Man this *S*U*X* !!! Big Time!!! The culprit(s) need to found an given a little Take your pick! You really wonder what gets in people's head that makes them want to do stuff like this. Instead of getting enjoyment out of hunting and finding the hides, they put forth all that time and energy to find them and then destroy them. It seems that almost all of them were done in one day, so you know it was a long process of finding all the caches at an earlier time then going back in one fell swoop on one day and doing the deed. Too bad all that time and energy wasn't spent on something more constructive!! Makes you just want to shake your head and wonder some days. D-man Edited March 16, 2005 by gridlox Link to comment
+Marcie/Eric Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I'm affraid I would be staking-out my caches.... You got it buddy. I'd set up one near my house, and guard it. Hope that guy can swim with cement... Link to comment
Stony2008 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 It sure does give a whole new meaning to the term trading down. Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 maybe theres more going on than meets the eye. thread maybe its like a cult or something? Sorry, don't see the connection. M&P are in CO, the OP's thread you linked to is in CA. Link to comment
Stony2008 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I mean maybe theres a whole group of people... like all over the world. Hey my doc does say I have acute paranoia. Link to comment
+WARedBear Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 maybe theres more going on than meets the eye. thread maybe its like a cult or something? Sorry, don't see the connection. M&P are in CO, the OP's thread you linked to is in CA. Go to one of Pa's caches and search for all local caches. I cruised back about 5 pages and there are several on each page that are MIA/Archived. Sounds like those Colorado cachers need to round up the posse and head out....Would that be anther kind of cache hunt? Similar to a witch hunt? TOCT...Took Out Cache Thief Link to comment
+Jeep_Dog Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Reading this is incredibly dissapointing! I pity the type of folks who would do something like this. Something is terribly amiss in their lives. Oh, the angst. It may be judicious to keep an eye on an area's caches. Once a trend develops, it may be time to convert caches to members only caches. At least this way if some malicious folks out there want to destroy caches, they at least have to pay and support the web site to satiate their sick cravings. Link to comment
Trinity's Crew Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 (edited) I assume that this possibility has already been brought up in other threads dealing with vandalism. I know that Jeremy does not want to dissuade the non-paying GC community from hiding and seeking caches, (which is very admirable) but if the practice of trashing caches gets out of hand, it seems that the only logical (and regrettable) solution would be to make this a pay only site. I hope that this does not have to happen. Edit: Spelling Edited March 17, 2005 by Trinity's Crew Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 The cachers in the area should either temporarily pull their caches of low-moderate difficulty or change them to MOs. Hopefully, the scumbags will soon get bored and everyone can go back to playing the game as normal. Link to comment
+dnrdmr Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 The state of Indiana has new DNR regulations that greatly reduce the amount of caches in our state parks and forests. They even now require us to apply for permits. In a case in Charlestown State Park in southern IN. The local ranger has removed all of the caches. This link is to the Midwest forum "A sad day in Charlestown ...". maybe there is new state legislation in your state too. http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=92966 IMHO David DnrDmr Link to comment
+zcubed Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 The state of Indiana has new DNR regulations that greatly reduce the amount of caches in our state parks and forests. They even now require us to apply for permits. That wouldn't cover these caches. These were hidden all over the central/south Denver area, by bike paths, city parks, etc. The only restictions that I know of is in Jeffco open space areas and they only require a permit for the cache. I think there are some jerks that are trying to ruin everyones fun. Link to comment
Stony2008 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 why dont we just place in the cache then there will be no more vandalism at all. I t will take care of the current ones and scare the other ones away. Link to comment
+Eagles61 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 It is really unfortunate that this is happening. In doing a search of the nearest caches, 28 out of 100 caches are either temporarily disabled or archived. I made a trip to the Denver area in October and was lucky enough to do a few of M&P's caches and they were excellent caches. One can hope that eventually whoever is doing the muggling will get tired and move on. Link to comment
Dr123d Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 I feel very fortunate to be one of the last to do a M&P cache. I always enjoyed the hides. They were always creative and when a new one poped up I would leave the house extra early to give myself alot of extra time to hunt. None of them were quick drive up and grabs even though you could park almost on top of some and not even know it. When I saw what happened I didn't now weather to or Link to comment
+GeoTeam Maggi Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Makes you mad!!! Some people just can't handle others having fun. Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Could this be a symptom of the fact that anyone can view cache pages without even registering? Should one be required to register before viewing cache pages? Could it be a new cacher that doesn't get the concept, and thinks they are supposed to take the whole thing? My moneys on the first one. Link to comment
+cachew nut Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Could this be a symptom of the fact that anyone can view cache pages without even registering? You aren't the first one to figure this out but don't expect the policy to change anytime soon. Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 (edited) I found my first cache before I registered, I wanted to see what it was all about before handing over any info. Edited March 17, 2005 by WRITE SHOP ROBERT Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 One can hope that eventually whoever is doing the muggling will get tired and move on. Only if they are ignored. Threads like this one and notes on the cache pages decrying their actions only encourage them. Link to comment
+Team Wampus Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 This is a sad situation, indeed. Obviously, the culprit(s) is someone who owns a GPSr and knows how to use it...possibly a disgruntled local cacher? Maybe the local cachers who have been vandalized will pool together and get 1 of those game tracker cameras, the kind that you mount in a tree and are motion activated. If they can get a picture of the scumbag, maybe they can post it and pass it around and see if anyone recognizes him/her/they. Link to comment
+AtoZ Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 This isn't new, I am in the Denver area, thought it is the first time anything like this has happen in the Denver area. Since I started geocaching last May I have ready many threads of this nature and all's I could think is "Thank God that isn't happening in my area." Well no it is the same weekend M&P to hit we found two other cache remains with the same MO of destruction in close proximity. They were hard caches to do to boot. There is another cache as well that has gone missing at the end of a long hike. So it happens I guess, it is sad M&P are nice folks and they put a lot of work into there caches. But they are okay and moving on. So we will wait and let this go by us as the folks doing it get bored and find some other amusement. cheers Link to comment
+Camo-crazed Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Man this *S*U*X* !!! Big Time!!! The culprit(s) need to found an given a little Take your pick! Alternatively, put the cache in here. Link to comment
+WARedBear Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Way to much free time on your hands and too many smiley faces at your disposal. Good job!! Link to comment
+fly46 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 I'm taking your graphic and using it, fyi. I think it's cool. (Now if I only understood how to make an image map) Anyway, Renegade Knight has been having the same problems for some time now. Link to comment
+Evil Chicken Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Unfortunately, it happens everywhere. We had all three (at that time) of our caches muggled just after we helped form a local geocaching group. (After we had totally re-stocked them, too) One container was left with dirt and rocks in it, the other two were gone. We decided not to let it get us down though. Instead, we changed the caches to log-only micros and let it ride. At some point, we may go back and put bigger caches back in those areas, since none of our caches have been bothered since. Link to comment
+Team Perks Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 all your smiley needs Sweet! They even have a whole series of three-eyed smilies! Link to comment
+Naturesprite Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 all your smiley needs Sweet! They even have a whole series of three-eyed smilies! How many 3-eyed cats do you own anyway? Link to comment
+zcubed Posted March 18, 2005 Author Share Posted March 18, 2005 I am going to close this one. Others have stated that maybe the culprits are coming here to bask in their "glory". I hope karma or what ever gets these jerks in the end. Link to comment
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