New Tb Design

October 5, 2004

I heard some remark about size. I do not know if the picture shown in my browser is in the good ratio but the tag seems to be broader.

Now they are 1 inch plus 1/8 and 2 inch 2/8

Would it be possible to make them according to the metric international-standard, this being an international sport?

They would be then 3 cm x 6 cm.

9.4k · October 5, 2004

It's more square now, but still the same width and height as the older design.

October 5, 2004

Very nice, carry on with the new design, and thanks to ask us for improvements like the bold text.

October 5, 2004

Looks great!

October 6, 2004

Do you think just "Dont Keep Me" will discourage people from grabbing it in the first place?

What if it said something like: "Don't Keep Me, Take Me To Another Cache"

two cents

October 6, 2004

I like the second design!

October 6, 2004

As a side note, we're considering only selling 1 tag instead of a tag and a copy tag.

NOOOO! I really like having my copy tag! I use mine as a keychain so that I always have the TB number handy. And its a great conversation piece when acquaintances ask about geocaching. I do understand cost and stuff, but I'd like to see this feature continued!

Bright side: I really like the new design! Keep up the great work, Jeremy!

9.8k · October 6, 2004

Love the design. Good job!

I second the request to keep producing a copy tag. I keep all mine together and if something happens to the bug/its tag, it's nice to have the copy tag to relaunch it.

October 6, 2004

When can we expect to see these new TB available? I was going to buy some of the current ones but if they are heading to the collectors pile I'd rather wait if it's not too long a wait!

9.4k · October 6, 2004

It will probably be at least 2 months before they'll be available.

4.1k · October 7, 2004

Modified design. Thoughts?

Playing with the new tag machine, eh? Cool!

You need a period at the end of each of those sentences:

"I am a Travel Bug."

"Help me travel from cache to cache."

"... how to help me on my next adventure."

The TB pages have the word goal in bold and caps. Would consistency be good between the tags and the pages? Not in bold and caps, but just in the word that is used, I mean.

I've never understood why the URL is Groundspeak and not gc.com/track.

Edited October 7, 2004 by MissJenn

9.4k · October 7, 2004

We're actually changing the tag to www.travelbugs.com - The plan was (and still is) a way to provide a travel bug link directly on that page and give it more space to explain what it is for visitors who are new to the idea.

October 8, 2004

Very Nice.

My suggestion is change wording under www.Groundspeak.com to:

'to learn my goal and how to help'

that's all I got

October 9, 2004

I would replace www.Groundspeak.com with geocaching.com. Its shorter and more well known.

3.3k · October 17, 2004

You need a period at the end of each of those sentences:
"I am a Travel Bug."

"Help me travel from cache to cache."

"... how to help me on my next adventure."

I was just about to say the same thing. You need punctuation, and it must be pretty cheap to add a full stop to the end of each sentence

7.2k · October 19, 2004

You need a period at the end of each of those sentences:
"I am a Travel Bug."

"Help me travel from cache to cache."

"... how to help me on my next adventure."

Actually, in a situation like this, it would be improper to use full stops. This is coming from over 15 years in the sign industry and a few in the engraving industry. It's my job to know.

Ever so often, I have to go round and round with some know-it-all--the last one was a full-on Political and Judicial Sciences professor from a local college--who insists on their plaque being "grammitically correct" when, in fact, by using the rules for regular writing you make it wrong on a award.

Of course, I could be wrong. But then again, so would all of the trade publications from which I gathered my information, as well.

7.2k · October 19, 2004

The idea for www.travelbugs.com is a good one.

If you could somehow make it so someone could type in www.travelbugs.com/xxxxxx which could be either the TBxxxx number or the secret code, that's go a long way to streamlining things.

Curious though, is this project before or after the PQ request of getting just caches with any change or any log?

Thanks.

3.3k · October 19, 2004

You need a period at the end of each of those sentences:
"I am a Travel Bug."

"Help me travel from cache to cache."

"... how to help me on my next adventure."

Actually, in a situation like this, it would be improper to use full stops. This is coming from over 15 years in the sign industry and a few in the engraving industry. It's my job to know.

Maybe, but these aren't signs. Without punctuation, what about the way the second half of a sentence looks like a separate line. The only thing splitting it up is the capitalisation. It looks better with punctuation in my opinion, but what would I know.... I'm English :laughing:

7.2k · October 19, 2004

Punctuation are pauses. Here, line breaks serve as the pauses. So do the grouping of the lines. Whoever did the layout on these tags understands these concepts.

BTW, no need to point out the mistakes in the layouts on the TB instructions tags I sell. No one has complained and I've been too lazy to fix it.

3.3k · October 19, 2004

Punctuation are pauses. Here, line breaks serve as the pauses. So do the grouping of the lines. Whoever did the layout on these tags understands these concepts.

BTW, no need to point out the mistakes in the layouts on the TB instructions tags I sell. No one has complained and I've been too lazy to fix it.

No one will have complained becuse they look pretty good......

. They have punctuation.

Line breaks as pauses? Then the new travel bug tag wording has too many pauses and doesn't flow properly at all. The current tags have punctuation, and so should the new ones.

7.2k · October 20, 2004

Jeeze, what ever, dude.

Look at the other tag and you'll see only half of the lines end with a fullstop.

But, that's okay. I've been doing it all wrong for well over a decade. That's not to mention the experts and giants in the field are all wrong. We appologize for our mistake.

October 21, 2004

Actually the older ones will be collectibles

Im afraid that this will cause the existing TS's to stop circulation.

October 22, 2004

I like the new design but it made me wonder and as I could not find an answer I'll ask it now.... how many, total travel bugs are out there?

October 26, 2004

I think the new design is great. I cannot wait to get a few and send them on their way.

October 29, 2004

looks good to me where are you up to ....... just started and want to place a TB in a new cache in Wales... :mad:

October 30, 2004

I made mine micro cache compatible.......

Would be good to be able to purchase micro-cache compatible versions regularly in the future.

I engraved text on front and back detailing to only move from micro to micro.

Thanks for letting us give input.

- cartwrig :rolleyes:

November 1, 2004

somewhere[/url], it would be nice if the Tag had both the TBXXXX and the 6 digit, or now 6 character access code on it. This might just prevent the unknowing from posting the access code in the logs.

I considered this, but it may actually cause more confusion since some folks won't know which code to put in there.

As a side note, we're considering only selling 1 tag instead of a tag and a copy tag. Since we will be able to print on demand we can always print a new tag number if the first one goes missing. This will also reduce the cost since we only need to manufacture one of them.

Of course, you can still have a second tag if you wish, but it will be by request (and cost more). I know folks use the copy tags as keychains and such.

I have no use for a copy tag. If you can save on manufacturing, I hope you pass it along to us consumers.

November 2, 2004

The new TBs look fine to me ... As long as they are flat enough to glue to their host, as I have found that to be a great alternative to chains and such. :lol:

November 2, 2004

Would be good to be able to purchase micro-cache compatible versions regularly in the future.

I agree. I'm creating two miniature racing TB's and trying to figure out how to make tags that are small enough for micros and are durable.

Of course then you'd have two sizes to deal with; Regular and Micro. With twice the inventory and manufacturing and ordering issues, etc.

But I still want it... :lol:

Okay, I'll just make my own.

November 2, 2004

I have looked at the original design and found it too "cluttered" with text. I do like the newer version with the BOLD text and rewording. I'm still partial to having a large picture like the Geocache logo, a minimum of text on one side and a full explaination of the travel bug purpose on the other side. Perhaps we can use the other tag, former COPY tag, to be used as a "Instruction to Cacher" tag.

Any chance the logo can be done in color?? thanks.

LJK.

November 6, 2004

Change just for the sake of change, is not necessarily good. However, when you can make something more functional, or better explain the purpose of something as elusive as a travel bug, then it most certainly is a good idea. Bravo. :unsure:

November 8, 2004

A new design is fine but the important thing is to keep the bugs looking as plain and uninteresting as possible. This will help keep people from wanting to KEEP them!

No having 6 different colors:

"We'll have to steal. . . er... collect all 6!"

No gold plating or different shapes:

"I'll just keep the 1st one that I find and move the others along!"

This is the problem with the geocoins. Everyone wants to keep them, so no one is buying them to place in caches as TB's! They know that the geocoin is going to be a goner real soon. Of course, since less geocoins are purchased, they are harder to find in caches and this makes people want to keep them even more. It's kind of a vicious circle.

People aren't as interested in keeping the TB's because they don't LOOK as cool as the geocoins and because the regular TB is far more common

Keep the TB's plain looking.

Oh, yeah, and don't make a special "micro cache" TB. That will only encourage more microcaches. :anibad:

1.6k · November 8, 2004

Great design, looking forward to buying some in the future. I also agree with GrnXnham about not making special editions - I can't really see the point in them.

MarcB

November 9, 2004

Look's good.

November 10, 2004

Designs look great, and somebody suggested different colours which would be nice, not so much for a purpose but variety... but what extra this would cost I have no idea...

I also like the new travelbug adress

Keep up the good work....

Tomcatuk (in the uk of course...)

November 11, 2004

The idea sounds great :lol: ,also what about differnt colours :unsure: ,can it be done.they would look great

November 13, 2004

:blink: :blink: Love the new design, keep up the good work.

Fred and JoAnne , Stratham, NH

1.9k · November 13, 2004

what is the eta on new bugs? as soon as the old ones run out? just wondering, not really trying to pin down a date... they look great by the way.

November 13, 2004

Great new design. Looks awesome , clean and to the point.

I'll add an excellent to this, love the new tags.

November 14, 2004

New ag design is very fine! I'll look forward to hiding my first travel bug, with the new tags. (full stop )

Keep up the good work Jeremy!

Rioexxo

Edited November 14, 2004 by Rioexxo

November 19, 2004

New design looks good! I think the www.travelbugs.com link is good, but still would like to see a reference to Geocaching.com :blink:

November 20, 2004

Looking great thnxx..

Edited November 20, 2004 by Gimmeneertiekie

1.2k · November 23, 2004

Modified design. Thoughts?

How about adding a time limit, like "Do not keep me longer than 2 weeks". Some could argue that holding a travel bug for 6 months is not "keeping" it, because they do plan on moving it...some day.

Edited November 23, 2004 by The Navigatorz

2.6k · November 23, 2004

How about adding a time limit, like "Do not keep me longer than 2 weeks". Some could argue that holding a travel bug for 6 months is not "keeping" it, because they do plan on moving it...some day.

Rather than printing a certain time limit, I'd phrase it more like Please pass me on quickly or something.

1.2k · November 23, 2004

Rather than printing a certain time limit, I'd phrase it more like Please pass me on quickly or something.

Two weeks is the amount of time you get until you receive notification on your cache page under the inventory list of TBs you are holding.

2.6k · November 23, 2004

I know. Of course it's better the sooner you fulfill the TB's goal and pass it on. The two week limit isn't just always so realistic, so I thought 'ASAP' would put it better. I'm quite fine with 'two weeks' too.

9.4k · November 23, 2004

..but still would like to see a reference to Geocaching.com

Well the logo at the top has geocaching.com underneath it.

The design is pretty much locked in at this point. I have placed the order but it will take a while before we have the new tags to stamp.

November 23, 2004

Will they still say www.Groundspeak.com or the new www.travelbugs.com?

Just curious about travelbugs.com :yikes:

9.4k · November 23, 2004

It will say travelbugs.com

November 27, 2004

Just an opinion, and we've all got them. TB tags are confusing enough, it seems. I think colored ones would be more confusing, implying different meanings/values. The hitchhiker should be the "variety" not colored tags. I do like the idea of micro tags.

Now a question. Will the old style remain active indefinately or will they be phased out? Should I order tags or wait?

Edited November 27, 2004 by wv-yen

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