+Miragee Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Hi gang! Just sit right back and I'll share a tale, a tale of a fateful trip! . . . Wow! I'm so glad it turned out okay. As Gobolts! can attest because he had to help me with it on our trip up to Lawson 4, I carry a really heavy fanny pack that has in it a flashlight, four extra batteries, food, my camera, and lots of other caching-related necessities (swag, pen, tweezers, Leatherman tool, etc.) However, I don't own a cell phone . . . it would be nice if Santa would get one for me . . . Oh . . . that's right, Santa doesn't exist . . . Quote Link to comment
+Team Adelos Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Oh . . . that's right, Santa doesn't exist . . . WHAT!?!? I dont believe it! Adelos Quote Link to comment
+Team Adelos Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 CUT HERE ... beer root cache had so many homeless people and trash standing/laying around I thought it was a soup kitchen! CUT HERE Sounds like a good opportunity for a CITO. Maybe I can get the kids to do it too. Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Oh . . . that's right, Santa doesn't exist . . . WHAT!?!? I dont believe it! Adelos He does too!!!! I saw him at the mall! Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Over the top? Not if you want to be safe. I guess that is my main point. Earlier this week, I would have scoffed at you! This was basically an easy hike, and within sight of the Poway grade for most of it. How lost can you get? I even looked at my sweatshirt on the front seat and decided to leave it. I had my keys in my pocket, my stick, my gps and a flashlight, with only enough batteries for one of them. Considering the postition I got myself into, I was woefully unprepaired. Still, until I experieced this first-hand, I wouldn't have believed it was possible to get in such a predicament. All I kept thinking was how I made fun of the surveyors that got lost on Palomar the other day! I mean really, how can THAT happen? Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I upped my standards ...Now up yours! I prefer your nonsensical posts about arriving to events in your dirigable to these seemingly hostile posts. I guess since most of the SD crowd don't spend too much time on Rich's site, maybe you didn't expect it to become a public fracas. I only have 401 finds, so I can't speak from too much experience, but I have found your basic lamp post finds just about everywhere I have been caching. Quote Link to comment
+blonds run amuck Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) Just sit right back and I'll share a tale, a tale of a fateful trip! . . . but did you get a coin in the coin quest?? Edited December 2, 2005 by blonds run amuck Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) The nerve of that guy, why I oughta .... you oughta what? We did over 34 urban caches I logged 5 and the beer root cache had so many homeless people and trash standing/laying around I thought it was a soup kitchen! I'll be back in town Dec. 22 visiting friends/family at the USMC base & La Mesa if any SD cachers would like to meet with me (to kick my a**!) or show me some fun well placed caches I'd be happy to do either! I upped my standards ...Now up yours! I loved the Beer Root cache, but apparently the area has changed since I found the cache. It was not in that condition when I was there. The change to that location is not the cache owner's fault . . . Most of my caches involve a hike and take you to some spectacular views, however this one, that has a great view, is closer to town. Take a Lichen to this View This is a fun container: Steele Canyon Park This one takes you to a very creative construction: Hobbit's Gone Wild If you really, really want to have some fun, and see some unbelievably-great creativity, you just have to find the Sandy Creek Cowboy Caches. I don't think there is a series of caches anywhere that could be more fun than those!! There are many more great caches included in my still-to-be completed Bookmarks, although not all of them are "local" caches. I guess I'll have to work on a Bookmark list just for those. Memorable Cahes Caches with a View Edited December 2, 2005 by Miragee Quote Link to comment
+Let's Look Over Thayer Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Oh . . . that's right, Santa doesn't exist . . . What?????? Santa doesn't exist? How can you even think it? Next you'll be telling us that the Cache Fairie doesn't create all these wonderful caches for us... I'm plugging my ears now...la, la, la, la, la, la, la... Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Cache Fairie? . . . And all along I've been giving you credit for that wonderful "cammoed mammal." Quote Link to comment
+GRNZOOM Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Just sit right back and I'll share a tale, a tale of a fateful trip! [snip] You are lucky C4 and it's great to hear that nothing bad happened to you! Way to go John! Don’t feel bad Dave. Iam sure all of us have done things while caching, but won’t admit it. Mine was climbing over rocks during the summer in a rattlesnake-infested area wearing flip-flops. Thanks for sharing your story. Once is awhile we need a “wake up call” that our sport can be dangerous and we need to be careful out there. John deserves some kind of Geocaching hero award! Nick GrnZoom Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 but did you get a coin in the coin quest?? Yep! Coin #85 Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Wow! Congratulations on the coin! Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Wow! Congratulations on the coin! Thanks! John&Jess are in the final stages of the contest right now. Go to The Quest Page and then click on the leader board link. Right now, they are at #158. (They started way after I did, or I would have been chasing them!) It was a real blast competing in the quest, and if they do another, I highly recommend it! Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I wonder if anyone else will have such an exciting story to tell for a portion of their "Quest?" Quote Link to comment
+smilinglady13 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 The nerve of that guy, why I oughta .... you oughta what? We did over 34 urban caches I logged 5 and the beer root cache had so many homeless people and trash standing/laying around I thought it was a soup kitchen! I'll be back in town Dec. 22 visiting friends/family at the USMC base & La Mesa if any SD cachers would like to meet with me (to kick my a**!) or show me some fun well placed caches I'd be happy to do either! I upped my standards ...Now up yours! We have some absolutley grand caches in Mission Trails Regional Park. I am not sure where you are from but I have traveled a lot and cached in a couple of states and I find our caches some of the best, but I would not go on a public forum and complain about caches as it is hurtful to people. Geocaching to me is a fun, high energy sport where you may or may not find the cache,you meet a lot of interesting people (SC Rowdies who keep telling us we are going to die trying to find Snail Rock) and there is always an adventure associated with each cache. I have learned to look at life as the cup being half full and there is a silver lining behind every cloud then to judge things so sharply. I hope you will come to see us and enjoy the grand and glorious area of San Diego. So in the mean time.....see you when you get to town. The group of us will be happy to show you around....... Quote Link to comment
+smilinglady13 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Wow! Congratulations on the coin! Thanks! John&Jess are in the final stages of the contest right now. Go to The Quest Page and then click on the leader board link. Right now, they are at #158. (They started way after I did, or I would have been chasing them!) It was a real blast competing in the quest, and if they do another, I highly recommend it! Do they post this before it starts? Looks real interesting. Quote Link to comment
+smilinglady13 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Hi gang! Just sit right back and I'll share a tale, a tale of a fateful trip! . . . Wow! I'm so glad it turned out okay. As Gobolts! can attest because he had to help me with it on our trip up to Lawson 4, I carry a really heavy fanny pack that has in it a flashlight, four extra batteries, food, my camera, and lots of other caching-related necessities (swag, pen, tweezers, Leatherman tool, etc.) However, I don't own a cell phone . . . it would be nice if Santa would get one for me . . . Oh . . . that's right, Santa doesn't exist . . . NO SANTA.......HOW CAN THAT BE???? SIGH........I just saw him.......he is taking a letting to the North Pole for me.... Quote Link to comment
+Dr. Boggis Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Alright you lot, be nice to each other while we're back in Blighty, and have a Merry Christmas[*] and Happy New Year! Wonder how many pages of this thread I'll have to catch (or should that be cache?) up on when we get back on Dec 31st?!? Hope to do a few UK caches, but I've had to preload them all so if I go somewhere unexpected I might be without data. CHEERS and see you in 2006!! [*] or similar non-denominational winter celebration Quote Link to comment
+blonds run amuck Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 but did you get a coin in the coin quest?? Yep! Coin #85 Congratulations to you and fotomom...lets all root for John and Jess and bikedog!! Quote Link to comment
+SD Rowdies Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Alright you lot, be nice to each other while we're back in Blighty, and have a Merry Christmas[*] and Happy New Year! Wonder how many pages of this thread I'll have to catch (or should that be cache?) up on when we get back on Dec 31st?!? Hope to do a few UK caches, but I've had to preload them all so if I go somewhere unexpected I might be without data. CHEERS and see you in 2006!! [*] or similar non-denominational winter celebration Righto! ... please give my best to the Royal Family. Quote Link to comment
+Dan-oh Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) <snip> I'll be back in town Dec. 22 visiting friends/family at the USMC base & La Mesa if any SD cachers would like to meet with me (to kick my a**!) or show me some fun well placed caches I'd be happy to do either! So whatcha say San Diegans, how bout we take him up on it? No, no! Not that! Put together your best list in bookmark form and we'll take the good Doctor caching, San Diego style. And if Dr Haz would let us know his prefered flavor of caches, we'll taylor the list to a T. Is it mega-hike, 4WD, ultra-camo, bizzare placement, themed story of mind bending multi? We got 'em all! Oh, and how far do you want to travel from the La Mesa area? Edited December 2, 2005 by Dan-oh Quote Link to comment
+SD Rowdies Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) So whatcha say San Diegan, how bout we take him up on it?No, no! Not that! Put together your best list in bookmark form and we'll take the good Doctor caching, San Diego style. And if Dr Haz would let us know his prefered flavor of caches, we'll taylor the list to a T. Is it mega-hike, 4WD, ultra-camo, bizzare placement, themed story of mind bending multi? We got 'em all! Oh, and how far do you want to travel from the La Mesa area? Take him to CHUD twice and bring him back once. Might be good to introduce him to the concept of Pocket Queries so's he can tailor his own list and eliminate all of our crappie San Diego caches. Ain't it fun to be judged? Edited December 2, 2005 by SD Rowdies Quote Link to comment
+HaZzMaTt... Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I'm sorry San Diego Geo cachers I've seem to have offended you! (open moth insert foot) Please forgive My wife just read my post over at SCGC and said I was a Jerk and should try harder to get along with others...! my bad.. (can I still get a key to the city?) hazz... Quote Link to comment
+FlagMan Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) I'm sorry San Diego Geo cachers I've seem to have offended you! (open moth insert foot) Please forgive My wife just read my post over at SCGC and said I was a Jerk and should try harder to get along with others...! my bad.. (can I still get a key to the city?) hazz... Penance: Place another cache like the last two! They ROCK! Oh, and when are you gunna bag the Yukon? Edited December 2, 2005 by FlagMan Quote Link to comment
+smilinglady13 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I'm sorry San Diego Geo cachers I've seem to have offended you! (open moth insert foot) Please forgive My wife just read my post over at SCGC and said I was a Jerk and should try harder to get along with others...! my bad.. (can I still get a key to the city?) hazz... I Like your wife........smart lady. Quote Link to comment
+rayjimmy Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (can I still get a key to the city?) It will be in a cache; happy caching. Quote Link to comment
+SD Rowdies Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) I'm sorry San Diego Geo cachers I've seem to have offended you! (open moth insert foot) Please forgive My wife just read my post over at SCGC and said I was a Jerk and should try harder to get along with others...! my bad.. (can I still get a key to the city?) hazz... Hazz, Personally I have enjoyed the stimulating exchange. For my part I was just "funnin'" with you like an ol' cowboy is want to do now and then. When I write "Why I oughta ..." just think of Gabby Hayes of western movie fame. Truth is he actually just said "Why I ...." Lively debate about Geocaching is a good thing. To some degree I once felt the same as you about the explosion of urban micros; however, going after them has taken me to some of the nicest places in our county. Besides, I can't help myself. For my part I hope to meet you one day, shake your hand, and have a laugh together about this crazy recreation of ours. My best to you and yours for a wonderful holiday season. Hmm, can I say "Holiday season?" Is that o.k.? Harmon Edited December 2, 2005 by SD Rowdies Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) I'm sorry San Diego Geo cachers I've seem to have offended you! (open moth insert foot) Please forgive My wife just read my post over at SCGC and said I was a Jerk and should try harder to get along with others...! my bad.. (can I still get a key to the city?) hazz... Try some of these SD caches out too! Bitmap's Favorites Chuy's Favorites Dan-oh's Favorites EMC's Favorites Flagman's Favorites LLOT's Favorites Miragee's Favorites Passing Wind's Favorites QDMan's Favorites RLCSpeaker's Favorites Trailgator's Favorites Hopefully someday GC will be able to create a consolidated favorites list! Edited December 2, 2005 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+Let's Look Over Thayer Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Just sit right back and I'll share a tale, a tale of a fateful trip! I was out hiking on my lunch break today (to a cache, of course!) and pondering C4's adventures. It occurred to me that while there's been a lot of discussion about being prepared (and valuable discussion it is), there is another aspect that also deserves mention. This other aspect is goal-itus. This is when achieving a goal trumps wisdom of turning around and trying again on another day. It can afflict even the most well prepared individual. Being well-prepared might (or might not) make the difference between surviving and not surviving an un-wise decision, but it doesn't prevent the decision in the first place. We have all, probably, been afflicted by it at one time or another. (I regret to say that I've made some poor decisions in this regard.) It's most likely to occur when we have an investment (financial, emotional, whatever) in achieving a goal. Goal-itus is a significant contributor to a large number of mountain climbing fatalities. It also figures in a high number of general aviation accidents. Let me end with this thought. When a peak is so close that you can almost touch it, it is very very difficult to turn around and give up all that hard won altitude -- even in the face of severe lightning storms. But when faced with this decision, keep in mind the following: you can descend and reclimb that mountain many times in your life. Continuing on in the face of adverse weather and/or darkness may be something that you only get to do once! (Now, if only I can remember to think about this when I'm the one making the decision to turn around... ) Quote Link to comment
+PassingWind Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Looking for a mystery/puzzle cache but cannot remember. It uses "sudoku". Any remember which cache that is? PW Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) Looking for a mystery/puzzle cache but cannot remember. It uses "sudoku". Any remember which cache that is?PW I have one! Edited December 2, 2005 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Just sit right back and I'll share a tale, a tale of a fateful trip! I was out hiking on my lunch break today (to a cache, of course!) and pondering C4's adventures. It occurred to me that while there's been a lot of discussion about being prepared (and valuable discussion it is), there is another aspect that also deserves mention. This other aspect is goal-itus. This is when achieving a goal trumps wisdom of turning around and trying again on another day. It can afflict even the most well prepared individual. Being well-prepared might (or might not) make the difference between surviving and not surviving an un-wise decision, but it doesn't prevent the decision in the first place. We have all, probably, been afflicted by it at one time or another. (I regret to say that I've made some poor decisions in this regard.) It's most likely to occur when we have an investment (financial, emotional, whatever) in achieving a goal. Goal-itus is a significant contributor to a large number of mountain climbing fatalities. It also figures in a high number of general aviation accidents. Let me end with this thought. When a peak is so close that you can almost touch it, it is very very difficult to turn around and give up all that hard won altitude -- even in the face of severe lightning storms. But when faced with this decision, keep in mind the following: you can descend and reclimb that mountain many times in your life. Continuing on in the face of adverse weather and/or darkness may be something that you only get to do once! (Now, if only I can remember to think about this when I'm the one making the decision to turn around... ) Excellent post! On my first attempt at Lawson 4, prudence did prevail, but not before I ended up at the end of the arrow in this picture. (Which, incidentally, is almost the exact same place my GPSr fell from the other day.) As it was, I got back to my car at dark, without the help of a flashlight. That two-mile descent was treacherous and scary, especially when I reminded myself it was mountain lion territory as evidenced by ahimsa's picture. It is very hard to turn back when that little arrow is pointing the way and the distance keeps decreasing with each step . . . Knowing the malady, goal-itis, has a name is the beginning of possibly conquering it . . . Quote Link to comment
+Let's Look Over Thayer Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Looking for a mystery/puzzle cache but cannot remember. It uses "sudoku". Any remember which cache that is?PW Digit Location GCNZVZ -- but it is disabled at the moment. (We were LTF... ) Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Ah . . . I remember that one. P.T. and I looked for it for a long time. I wonder if we were first to DNF . . . Quote Link to comment
+Chuy! Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Looking for a mystery/puzzle cache but cannot remember. It uses "sudoku". Any remember which cache that is?PW Digit Location GCNZVZ -- but it is disabled at the moment. (We were LTF... ) Also, this one in Daley Ranch. Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Totally off the caching topic, but here goes anyway... I had placed a bid earlier this week for tickets to tonights Jingle Ball Concert at the Sports Arena. I didn't win, since the bids were beyond my means. Anyway, the station just called me, and they have 12 front-row seats still available for tonights show. The price is steep at $250 per seat, but it should be a great show, and all proceeds benefit Becky's house, which is a shelter for abused women. The station number is 866-570-1941. The acts are: Switchfoot B52s Alannis Morrisette Train Hootie and the Blowfish Los Lonely Boys Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Back on topic! Goal-itus is a significant contributor to a large number of mountain climbing fatalities. Excellent point. Just about every single bad choice I made last night had to do with goal-itis! And I couldn't point to any single choice I made that was worse than the others, it's just that they all piled on each other! Words of wisdom to be sure! BTW- Chuy, did Snake call you to say he made it back out of the sewers today? Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 . . . The price is steep at $250 per seat. . . That's almost as much as a spare Garmin Vista C . . . which I almost needed after the mishap on Lawson Peak. Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) . . . The price is steep at $250 per seat. . . That's almost as much as a spare Garmin Vista C . . . which I almost needed after the mishap on Lawson Peak. icksnay on the oncertcay! C4 should get one of these! Then you can set your goals high! Edited December 3, 2005 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) But make sure that if you recharge it when you're behind a bush to hold high it above the bush so people don't wonder what the heck you are doing! Edited December 3, 2005 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+PassingWind Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 SwitchfootB52s Alannis Morrisette Train Hootie and the Blowfish Los Lonely Boys Los Lonely Boys Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 But make sure that if you recharge it when your behind a bush to hold high it above the bush so people don't wonder what the heck you are doing! Quote Link to comment
+HaZzMaTt... Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Penance: Place another cache like the last two! mmmmmmmmmm OK Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Alright you lot, be nice to each other while we're back in Blighty, and have a Merry Christmas[*] and Happy New Year! Wonder how many pages of this thread I'll have to catch (or should that be cache?) up on when we get back on Dec 31st?!? Hope to do a few UK caches, but I've had to preload them all so if I go somewhere unexpected I might be without data. CHEERS and see you in 2006!! [*] or similar non-denominational winter celebration Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Quote Link to comment
+TFTC Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 C4 should get one of these! That's not a bad idea! Quote Link to comment
+kawikaturn Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Try some of these SD caches out too! Bitmap's Favorites Chuy's Favorites Dan-oh's Favorites EMC's Favorites Flagman's Favorites LLOT's Favorites Miragee's Favorites Passing Wind's Favorites QDMan's Favorites RLCSpeaker's Favorites Trailgator's Favorites Hopefully someday GC will be able to create a consolidated favorites list! Thanks for giving me the inspiration to make my favorite list: kawikaturn's Favorites Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) Try some of these SD caches out too! Bitmap's Favorites Chuy's Favorites Dan-oh's Favorites EMC's Favorites Flagman's Favorites LLOT's Favorites Miragee's Favorites Passing Wind's Favorites QDMan's Favorites RLCSpeaker's Favorites Trailgator's Favorites Hopefully someday GC will be able to create a consolidated favorites list! Thanks for giving me the inspiration to make my favorite list: kawikaturn's Favorites Great list Dave! I see that I have some more Dak Girls caches that I need to visit. Those seem to be on everybody's list and I haven't done that many of theirs! But the Forbidden Forest was very cool! Edited December 3, 2005 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+PassingWind Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Try some of these SD caches out too! Bitmap's Favorites Chuy's Favorites Dan-oh's Favorites EMC's Favorites Flagman's Favorites LLOT's Favorites Miragee's Favorites Passing Wind's Favorites QDMan's Favorites RLCSpeaker's Favorites Trailgator's Favorites kawikaturn's Favorites Hey guys, we've started compiling a list of San Diego cacher favorites/themes bookmarks list over at this thread: Must Do San Diego Caches, Compiling a List PW Quote Link to comment
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