Turkey

[+Fernwirkkopf]

Until recently my finds in Turkey were listed under Asia, now Turkey is considered Europe according to the Groundspeak statistics. Why has this been changed? Turkey is 97% Asia.

[+Otis.Gore]

Well, all I know is that the turkish government wanted to get into the EU for years...maybe they've taken the first step?

 

I suppose those caches were not found in Istanbul, were they?

[+Lil Devil]

When I look at your stats, Turkey is shown as being in Asia. Not sure what page you're looking at.

[+Fernwirkkopf]

When I look at your stats, Turkey is shown as being in Asia. Not sure what page you're looking at.

 

My public user profile shows a map named "Funde in Europa" with the finds in Turkey.

Not sure what page You are looking at, Lil Devil.

[+Lil Devil]

I clicked on your name here in the forums. This opens you profile page.

Then I click on the "Statistics" tab.

Then I click on the "maps" tab.

Scroll down and under "Caches Found by Fernwirkkopf in Asia" I see Turkey listed.

 

Conversely, Turkey is NOT listed under "Caches Found by Fernwirkkopf in Europe"

[+t4e]

technically is Eurasian , GC needs a whole new designation

Edited November 6, 2011 by t4e

[+Fernwirkkopf]

I clicked on your name here in the forums. This opens you profile page.

Then I click on the "Statistics" tab.

Then I click on the "maps" tab.

Scroll down and under "Caches Found by Fernwirkkopf in Asia" I see Turkey listed.

 

Conversely, Turkey is NOT listed under "Caches Found by Fernwirkkopf in Europe"

 

You are right, Lil Devil, the Groundspeak stats are correct. I create my stats with GC Statistic

and they consider Turkey as Europe.

Thanx for clearing this for me!

[+Fernwirkkopf]

Well, all I know is that the turkish government wanted to get into the EU for years...maybe they've taken the first step?

 

I suppose those caches were not found in Istanbul, were they?

 

No, all in the Asian part of Turkey. But You are right, they still want to get into the EU. Don't ask me why. They're better off without it.

[AZcachemeister]

I don't understand how it matters.

I found a cache in Turkey=COOL!

Political boundaries are going to swirl around.

Do I really care what continent some bureaucrat thinks it's on?

[+dfx]

Political boundaries are going to swirl around.

Do I really care what continent some bureaucrat thinks it's on?

In this case, it's not a matter of political boundaries, but rather of geographical boundaries. The political boundaries of Turkey are well defined, but unfortunately they don't match the geographical boundaries of the continents. Specifically, the boundary between Europe and Asia has historically been a matter of debate.

Edited November 7, 2011 by dfx

[Neath Worthies]

It's generally accepted that the area to the west of the Bosphorus is Europe and to the east is Asia.

[+NYPaddleCacher]

I don't understand how it matters.

I found a cache in Turkey=COOL!

Political boundaries are going to swirl around.

Do I really care what continent some bureaucrat thinks it's on?

 

You might not care but some might like to count the number of continents where they've found a geocache. If the stats include Turkey as part of the Asian continent and someone hasn't found caches in any other European country they'd only get "credit" for one continent. If someone is already found a cache in a European country and another Asian country it really wouldn't matter though. I've found caches in several European countries and in China but I'd still like to find one in Turkey.

 

I did a bit of research prior to going to Costa Rica to see if I could add a new continent but from what I could tell Costa Rica is either part of North America or not part of one of the seven continents at all.

[+Otis.Gore]

Well, all I know is that the turkish government wanted to get into the EU for years...maybe they've taken the first step?

 

I suppose those caches were not found in Istanbul, were they?

 

No, all in the Asian part of Turkey. But You are right, they still want to get into the EU. Don't ask me why. They're better off without it.

 

Probably....and on the other hand, it's not Europe, so no EU Membership

Edited November 7, 2011 by Otis.Gore

[Neath Worthies]

Probably....and on the other hand, it's not Europe, so no EU Membership

Mind you, they do get to enter the Eurovision song contest!

[+dfx]

It's generally accepted that the area to the west of the Bosphorus is Europe and to the east is Asia.

 

Yeah I know, and further up you have the Caucasus and then the Urals. But those are really quite arbitrary definitions and were subject to change over the centuries. The Bosporus was pretty much the only part of the boundary that never changed.

[+Otis.Gore]

Probably....and on the other hand, it's not Europe, so no EU Membership

Mind you, they do get to enter the Eurovision song contest!

 

Yeah, but so does Aizerbaidschan (or however they spell that)

Next time: Baku

[+hzoi]

It's both in Europe and Asia. Sort of like how Shimmer is both a floor wax and a dessert topping.

[+Viajero Perdido]

Next up:

1. Is Mexico part of North America?
2. Is Taiwan part of China?
3. Is Quebec part of Canada?
4. Have I forgotten my meds?

[AZcachemeister]

Next up:

1. Is Mexico part of North America?
2. Is Taiwan part of China?
3. Is Quebec part of Canada?
4. Have I forgotten my meds?

 

1. Yes

2. Yes (like an appendix)

3. Not so much

4. Most likely

 

[+Coldgears]

I hate derailing this thread, but am I the only one who thought this was about caching in/around thanksgiving?

[+dfx]

2. Yes (like an appendix)

 

I thought that was Florida.

[+Otis.Gore]

I hate derailing this thread, but am I the only one who thought this was about caching in/around thanksgiving?

 

Good one!

[+TheLoneGrangers]

I hate derailing this thread, but am I the only one who thought this was about caching in/around thanksgiving?

 

I almost spit up my drink just now

[+releasethedogs]

Next up:

1. Is Mexico part of North America?
2. Is Taiwan part of China?
3. Is Quebec part of Canada?
4. Have I forgotten my meds?

 

1. Yes

2. Yes (like an appendix)

3. Not so much

4. Most likely

 

 

more like...

 

2. Yes (but not part of the PRC)

[+Kaluki]

I also wonder why Groundspeak cannot assign the continent correctly. We were caching in Istanbul, some caches were in Europe and some in Asia, the statistics do not distinguish. Why not? It cannot be difficult to set a continent assignment for the reviewer that publishs a cache. We use caching equipment that shows us every spot on the world with a precision of 3 m but the continents are shown wrong in the statistics. Crazy.

[+DragonsWest]

I also wonder why Groundspeak cannot assign the continent correctly. We were caching in Istanbul, some caches were in Europe and some in Asia, the statistics do not distinguish. Why not? It cannot be difficult to set a continent assignment for the reviewer that publishs a cache. We use caching equipment that shows us every spot on the world with a precision of 3 m but the continents are shown wrong in the statistics. Crazy.

 

Ever wonder how someone correctly attributes a find to a county in the USA, considering how many of them and what weird, wiggly borders they have?

 

Ist nicht fur verstehen. Relaxen und watchen das blinken satellichten.

[Trinity's Crew]

<homer>

Mmmmm.... Turkey... Ahhhhhh....

</homer>

Edited March 23, 2012 by Trinity's Crew

[+Glenn]

I also wonder why Groundspeak cannot assign the continent correctly. We were caching in Istanbul, some caches were in Europe and some in Asia, the statistics do not distinguish. Why not? It cannot be difficult to set a continent assignment for the reviewer that publishs a cache. We use caching equipment that shows us every spot on the world with a precision of 3 m but the continents are shown wrong in the statistics. Crazy.

I wish you luck in getting it straightened out quickly. It took us years to get the Northeast forum renamed to the Mid-Atlantic forum. For years Groundspeak keep referring to the Mid-Atlantic region as the Northeast for some reason.

[+The Blorenges]

Once you've all run out of steam talking Turkey, you can drop in here for a similar simmering topic.

 

MrsB

[+Andromeda321]

Hey, I'm actually going there for Easter break! Just Istanbul (not Constantinople), though I'll be sure to hit up both sides of the Bosporus so I can say I've made it to Asia this year.

 

The only reason IMO that it's annoying that they count Turkey as part of Asia is that the Asian map in statistics is AWFUL, it's jut your world map with the Asia countries filled in.