OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) The site went down today, Wednesday, at approximately 11am 12 noon pacific (-8 GMT) for the regular monthly release. The following issues were resolved. Please open a new thread for unrelated bugs or feature requests. Thanks! Cases marked HOTFIX were updated between releases. Geocaching.com Release Notes 2/24/10 14101: No Map Visible in IE 6 HOTFIX 14743: Geocaching maps failing to render in IE6 HOTFIX: Moved styles conflicting with Google's code to a separate stylesheet 15008: New icons are not appearing when loaded. HOTFIX: Some new geocoin icons had not been properly updated 14744: IE6: Missing nav on seek/log.aspx Fixed missing navigation for IE6 on log detail page 14745: IE6: Nav floats at bottom on seek/default.aspx Fixed navigation in IE6 on search results page 13560: Automatic Twitter notification of site maintenance Tweets will be tweeted to Twitter when taking the sites down for maintenance, and again when they go back up 14514: Add border to cache log quotes Added border to cache log quotes to more easily set off the text from the rest of the log 14677: Geocoin Manufacturer List Added geocoindesign.com to list of manufacturers 14708: "NEW" logo appearing next to no-longer-new features on geocaching.com Removed "new" icon from certain features. No word yet on "old" icon 15191: Caches In Space Clarified cosmic geocaching guidelines 14728: Credit card expiring email sends broken link Period at the end of a sentence was being included as part of the URL 14874: Disable ability to log locationless caches via iPhone Fixed 13471: Invalidated accounts logging through iPhone Blocked ability for invalidated and banned users to log geocaches through iPhone 14123: Banned members logging caches through iPhone app Blocked unvalidated and banned users from posting logs through iPhone 15143: "Your Geocaching Logs (All)" page includes an errant br tag Fixed page title to remove unnecessary HTML 14683: When editing existing additional waypoint, coordinates revert to main cache coordinates Fixed 14567: Refund Policy easier to find Added links to refund and cancellation policy to membership creation flow 15317: Add icons to search page column headers Added north-up and found it icons 14680: Space needed at ../seek/cache_details.aspx Added spacing between log date/username and log content 14682: Space needed at ../mark/details.aspx Added spacing between benchmark logs 14739: cache type page icons stop lining up with their respective descriptions Removed extra padding from the D/T element 14663: Move hints up above the decryption guide Relocated cache description hints 14593: Colored box that indicates you have pending field notes has lost its formatting Pending FN notice on Your Profile now more visible 14701: Log contents overlap Travel Bug images in IE Fixed the overlapping issue and made a few stylesheet changes to make image placement consistent among browsers 14996: Email form alignment off in IE Fixed alignment issues for IE on "send message" page 15013: Google map display issues in print stylesheet Corrected some map display issues in Firefox and Chrome on print friendly cache page 14809: Addition of link to helpful links page Added German language geocaching podcast www.cachetalk.de to links page 14702: Formatting issues on pages for Travel Bug activation Fixed formatting on all three pages of trackable activation 14741: add a link to the KB at footer Added link to the Groundspeak Knowledge Book to page footers 14997: Footer width off on seek/log.aspx The footer width no longer expands past the width of the content on log posting page 15390: Remove link to forums from site offline notice Removed to give the forums a break during down time 14699: Timestamps on field notes getting converted multiple times, leads to incorrect log dates Fixed and now displaying timestamps to user for casual verification Edited February 25, 2010 by OpinioNate Link to comment
+supertbone Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 15191: Caches In Space Clarified cosmic geocaching guidelines I think it is cool that Groundspeak had to have a guideline on this. Link to comment
+psy2orange Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 How long till the annoying red banner goes away? Link to comment
+Ivo-tje Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 lol, it's 2010 and there are bugs in IE6 fixed? OMG! drop IE6 support, it's 10 years old, that's half the existence of the internet! But still no support to embed youtube movies with your cache or trackable Link to comment
+Lil Devil Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 How long till the annoying red banner goes away? Probably after the update that's going to happen at 11am. You did notice that it's currently referring to a different update than it was yesterday, right? Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 lol, it's 2010 and there are bugs in IE6 fixed? OMG! drop IE6 support, it's 10 years old, that's half the existence of the internet! But still no support to embed youtube movies with your cache or trackable IE6 was 8% of our user base last month. That's still a couple hundred thousand geocachers. If you know of a way to allow javascript in cache and trackable descriptions without sacrificing the security of our site and users I'm all ears. We are actually investigating this. BUT, let's not derail this thread any more please. Link to comment
crawil Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 14708: "NEW" logo appearing next to no-longer-new features on geocaching.comRemoved "new" icon from certain features. No word yet on "old" icon I laughed out loud! Thanks for the chuckle! Link to comment
+t4e Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 lol, it's 2010 and there are bugs in IE6 fixed? my thoughts exactly, seems such a waste to spend time on that instead of using it to implement new things some good fixes in that list though Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Glad to see some issues I'm concerned about on the list (fieldnotes date and cache page formatting stuff). Waiting for the update to go live Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 14683: When editing existing additional waypoint, coordinates revert to main cache coordinates Fixed I kind of unintentionally buried this one but I think it deserves some explanation. Last release we introduced a feature that would auto-fill cache coordinates as a starting point when adding additional waypoints to a cache. Unfortunately, this "fix" also replaced the coordinates of add'l waypoints when you tried to edit them. If you weren't paying attention you would overwrite your add'l waypoint coords. This is what you call "failing quietly". Since a full release was necessary to fix the problem, we opted for a hotfix back then that would cause it to fail more loudly and annoyingly. Hence, empty coordinate fields on waypoint edit. Sorry, it was for your own good! But that is all behind us now. Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Trivial question, but where is this? 5191: Caches In SpaceClarified cosmic geocaching guidelines I've checked the guidelines twice today. Am I just missing it? Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) Trivial question, but where is this? 5191: Caches In SpaceClarified cosmic geocaching guidelines I've checked the guidelines twice today. Am I just missing it? The update has not happened yet. Edited February 24, 2010 by OpinioNate Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Trivial question, but where is this? 5191: Caches In SpaceClarified cosmic geocaching guidelines I've checked the guidelines twice today. Am I just missing it? The update has not happened yet. oops! The site will be going down today, Wednesday, Here, I thought it said "today, Tuesday"!! I guess that's why people are asking for the day to be displayed on the banner, and why the banner is still up today! Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Here, I thought it said "today, Tuesday"!! I guess that's why people are asking for the day to be displayed on the banner, and why the banner is still up today! Banner text - time, date, reason - is different. Link to comment
+Jake39 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 14683: When editing existing additional waypoint, coordinates revert to main cache coordinates Fixed I would still like see you add the "Additional Waypoint" box to Waymarking. These could be used for parking, entrances or places where the actual listed co-ordinates are not the the place being waymarked or some distance from the a Waymark. Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 We like you all so much we're giving you an extra hour to do whatever it is you need to do. Current estimate is for the site to go down around noon. Link to comment
+eagsc7 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 15191: Caches In Space Clarified cosmic geocaching guidelines I think it is cool that Groundspeak had to have a guideline on this. I Just re-read the Cache Listing requirements/Guidelines, and Where is it written... The Steaks Link to comment
+Bear and Ragged Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 15191: Caches In Space Clarified cosmic geocaching guidelines I think it is cool that Groundspeak had to have a guideline on this. I Just re-read the Cache Listing requirements/Guidelines, and Where is it written... The Steaks Post 12. Up there! Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 lol, it's 2010 and there are bugs in IE6 fixed? OMG! drop IE6 support, it's 10 years old, that's half the existence of the internet! But still no support to embed youtube movies with your cache or trackable Please don't embed video in cache or bug pages. If you want to show us something link to it. Link to comment
+dakboy Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 lol, it's 2010 and there are bugs in IE6 fixed? OMG! drop IE6 support, it's 10 years old, that's half the existence of the internet! IE6 was 8% of our user base last month. That's still a couple hundred thousand geocachers. Google is ceasing support for IE6 in a couple weeks. I'd wager more than 8% of their users are still using IE6. Note: they aren't closing the door to IE6, they're just not going to go out of their way anymore to make sure IE6 works. It's not worth the time, money & effort to do it. I guess the counter-argument is that those IE6 users are probably bringing in a disproportionately large amount of ad revenue, given that they won't be running the ad blockers that users of most other browsers use. Link to comment
+coast2coast2coast Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Ok... Its 1330 now.... the site seems to be working now but the red banner is still there. Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Ok... Its 1330 now.... the site seems to be working now but the red banner is still there. Sorry, we're running late. I'll update the thread when it's time. Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Sorry, we're running late. I'll update the thread when it's time. I guess you really like us Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) Sorry, we're running late. I'll update the thread when it's time. I guess you really like us We always hurt the ones we love the most. Edit: Site is now down for the update. BBIAB Edited February 24, 2010 by OpinioNate Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 While you're waiting, may I suggest checking out the new Groundspeak.com. Link to comment
+wigoweb Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 How long till the annoying red banner goes away? Probably after the update that's going to happen at 11am. You did notice that it's currently referring to a different update than it was yesterday, right? I find it hard to complain about a notice regarding updates when we have been surprised by unannounced updates so often. This banner is something that everyone should notice and we should all appreciate it. Link to comment
+Delta68 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Miffed about: 14874 I logged two completely meeting the original cache setters' requirements and the reviewers deleted them after a a few weeks NOT FAIR!! Especially as Groundspeak claim to be 'only a cache listing site' and not get involved with removing or reinstating logs Mark Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Miffed about: 14874 I logged two completely meeting the original cache setters' requirements and the reviewers deleted them after a a few weeks NOT FAIR!! Especially as Groundspeak claim to be 'only a cache listing site' and not get involved with removing or reinstating logs Mark Trying to think of a reason you should get special treatment for exploiting a backdoor... Failing. Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 While you're waiting, may I suggest checking out the new Groundspeak.com. I don't think the little orange hand-held thing is going to protect him from the Death Star! Link to comment
+Delta68 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Trying to think of a reason you should get special treatment for exploiting a backdoor... Failing. Only about a dozen cachers worldwide had logged them... wouldn't have done any harm to let the logs remain It would have been nice for us 'later comers' to have the chance of getting a full set of icons... Link to comment
+Markwell Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Google is ceasing support for IE6 in a couple weeks...they're just not going to go out of their way anymore to make sure IE6 works. It's not worth the time, money & effort to do it. Wow, you must have missed some of the uproar when IE6 maps weren't displaying correctly. The January update caused the problem - look at that thread. Then look at this typical thread for some of the other posts. I've moved to Firefox... Link to comment
+Markwell Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Only about a dozen cachers worldwide had logged them... wouldn't have done any harm to let the logs remain...It would have been nice for us 'later comers' to have the chance of getting a full set of icons... Let's unarchive all of the APE caches and let people log them. Link to comment
+Delta68 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Let's unarchive all of the APE caches and let people log them. That's not quite the same! There are still two active and I kind of hoped to go and find one one day... Mark Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 OK let's get back on topic. Site is up! Please let us know of any bugs you find with this release. Thanks! Link to comment
+Delta68 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 OK let's get back on topic. Site is up! Please let us know of any bugs you find with this release. Thanks! Super! Shall I try and log Locationless caches again - in the interests of testing for bugs of course! Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 OK let's get back on topic. Site is up! Please let us know of any bugs you find with this release. Thanks! Super! Shall I try and log Locationless caches again - in the interests of testing for bugs of course! Yes please! Link to comment
+Delta68 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 OK let's get back on topic. Site is up! Please let us know of any bugs you find with this release. Thanks! Super! Shall I try and log Locationless caches again - in the interests of testing for bugs of course! Yes please! I haven't, but someone just did! Trying to think of a reason for saying who it was... Failing. Now the whole world knows about it as well! Link to comment
+CacheDrone Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) 14683: When editing existing additional waypoint, coordinates revert to main cache coordinates Fixed I would still like see you add the "Additional Waypoint" box to Waymarking. These could be used for parking, entrances or places where the actual listed co-ordinates are not the the place being waymarked or some distance from the a Waymark. Jake... Waymarking does not need this feature as every category leader can add a variable for additional waypoints if they want them. Waymarking is also not restricted to only 6 different types, we can make additional waypoints for whatever we can dream up. "Best Viewing Position" for example, compared to marking the actual location of the item which would be required. BQ Sorry... for some reason I am logged in as my reviewer account, which I never use in this browser. Edited February 24, 2010 by CacheDrone Link to comment
Skippermark Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I can confirm that the backdoor for logging a locationless cache is NOT fixed. I posted a test log to see if it would work and was going to delete the log afterward. Unfortunately, since they are locked, logs cannot be deleted. Uh-oh. Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) OK let's get back on topic. Site is up! Please let us know of any bugs you find with this release. Thanks! Super! Shall I try and log Locationless caches again - in the interests of testing for bugs of course! Yes please! I haven't, but someone just did! Trying to think of a reason for saying who it was... Failing. Now the whole world knows about it as well! ok ok you got me. Sit tight. Edit: The deploy for this fix lagged a little behind the main site. That hole is plugged now. Thanks guys <3 Edited February 24, 2010 by OpinioNate Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) 14699: Timestamps on field notes getting converted multiple times, leads to incorrect log datesFixed and now displaying timestamps to user for casual verification Looks like this one is fixed to "as described". For testing, I used a file I created, with found time = 2010-02-24T00:01Z through 2010-02-24T23:01Z in 1 hour intervals. My time zone is PST. After uploading, on Field Notes, I see the 1st 8 geocaches listed as Found on 2010-02-23, and the remaining 16 as found on 2010-02-24. This is correct for my time zone setting. Next, I tried changing my time zone, AFTER uploading the field notes. The dates displayed on Field Notes changed accordingly. For example, if I change it to Beijing, the first 16 shows as 2010-02-24, and the remaining 8 shows as 2010-02-25. It is important to note, however, that this is only the displayed date. When you click on "Compose Log", the date filled in is the original GMT date. So in my example, all of the logs (if unchanged) will have the dates 2010-02-24. This is consistent with how moun10bike described it should work after the January update. Hopefully the next step would be to change the date in the log screen to local date. Edited February 24, 2010 by Chrysalides Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Thank you Chrysalides. That was a nice breakdown. Link to comment
+metal-bijou Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 lol, it's 2010 and there are bugs in IE6 fixed? my thoughts exactly, seems such a waste to spend time on that instead of using it to implement new things some good fixes in that list though how selfish. Some of us can only use the web browser provided by company IT. I know I'm not the only one in that position. Thank you for keeping this hobby open to all. Link to comment
+Lil Devil Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 how selfish. Some of us can only use the web browser provided by company IT. How selfish. Using company time and resources to play a game Link to comment
+not tom Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 14975: Update Magellan Send to GPS Updated Magellan StGPS plugin to latest version I'm I too early trying this or? Link to comment
OpinioNate Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 14975: Update Magellan Send to GPS Updated Magellan StGPS plugin to latest version I'm I too early trying this or? Sorry, I should not have included this release note. That was code prop'd to our internal staging site and then stripped before going live. This isn't done baking yet. Link to comment
+prunie Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 My motto ...? Why fix it when it ain't broke ! Link to comment
+dakboy Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Google is ceasing support for IE6 in a couple weeks...they're just not going to go out of their way anymore to make sure IE6 works. It's not worth the time, money & effort to do it. Wow, you must have missed some of the uproar when IE6 maps weren't displaying correctly. The January update caused the problem - look at that thread. No, I saw it, I just have a hard time caring. IE6 is dead. Take it off life-support. Link to comment
+dakboy Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 how selfish. Some of us can only use the web browser provided by company IT. I know I'm not the only one in that position. Supply your own. No installation needed, just drop it in any directory you have access to (like My Documents). Fly under the radar. http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable Link to comment
+Old Death Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Great. They fixed the space problem, but still they don't have the slightest idea how to provide a page in Unicode. Great. Link to comment
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