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Have you ever seen someone log their own cache as a find ??

Have you ever seen someone/both people, log a cache they hid together as a find ?

This is HILARIOUS AND ONE OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS, ABSURD, LAUGHABLE :rolleyes: Geocaching nonsense practices I've seen to date. Gimme a break !

(Edit: I think we'll go log all of our own caches tomorrow and get ourselves 67 more points. Then I'm gonna go play hide and seek by myself. I'll hide myself and then see if I can find me !)

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Have you ever seen someone log their own cache as a find ??

Have you ever seen someone/both people, log a cache they hid together as a find ?

This is HILARIOUS AND ONE OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS, ABSURD, LAUGHABLE :rolleyes: Geocaching nonsense practices I've seen to date. Gimme a break !

(Edit: I think we'll go log all of our own caches tomorrow and get ourselves 67 more points. Then I'm gonna go play hide and seek by myself.)

I am somewhat insulted by your words above, but I forgive you because you are a relative newbie to this sport, having started in only July of 2007. I have logged many dozens, and sometimes hundreds, of finds on each of our 30-odd caches, and particularly on our several archived caches.

 

In fact, I did this ONLY because God and the Archangel Gabriel commanded me to do so. You see, there was a time, way back when, in the Dark Days, when Sue and I would go to events or show up on the forums, and other geocachers would point at us and laugh at us, saying "What? You have been geocaching for 6 months and have fewer than 500 finds? Why, I had 5,000 finds at my 6-month marker!"

 

I finally got tired of hearing these put-downs, and so I consulted with two image consultants, two public relations specialists, three psychotherapists and two certified life coaches, and also Oprah, and finally, Dr. Phil, and they each unilaterally suggested that we increase our find count the easy way, by logging multiple finds on our own caches.

 

However, I resisted this advice, and initially, I did not follow it, because somehow it did not feel right to me.

 

Then, one day, as I grew more and more unhappy and more and more despondent over the obvious fact that the geocaching world had turned into a numbers game, and that Sue and I were objects of ridicule for our low find count.

 

Finally, on one of my darkest days, as I was walking to town, God appeared to me, along with Archangel Gabriel, and God ordered me to start logging dozens of finds on each of our caches in order to improve our find count, and I remember that His final words to me, before he and Gabriel disappeared in a flash of light, were:

"There are no rules in geocaching, nor in life -- do whatever it takes to build your self-esteem! I also order you to log hundreds of finds/attendeds on each event which you attend! Remember, Vinny, there are no rights and wrongs, and there is only moral relativism!"

 

Well, I was quite humbled by this Divine Experience, and so I immediately started logging dozens of finds on each of our caches, and my self-esteem improved, and I stopped kicking the dog, and geocachers began to accept us! Life is great now, we have plenty of geo-friends, we are accepted in the geo world, and best of all, our finds count is up in the stratosphere, thanks to the intervention of God!

 

POSTSCRIPT ADDED VIA LATE EDIT:

I should also add that my old car is an oil-burner, and we need to add a quart of oil to the crankcase every 200 miles. Every time I add a quart of oil to the car engine, or perform other maintenance on the car, I immediately log another find on one of my archived caches, as a way of rewarding myself!

 

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Finally, on one of my darkest days, as I was walking to town, God appeared to me, along with Archangel Gabriel, and God ordered me to start logging dozens of finds on each of our caches in order to improve our find count, and I remember that His final words to me, before he and Gabriel disappeared in a flash of light, were:

"There are no rules in geocaching, nor in life -- do whatever it takes to build your self-esteem! I also order you to log hundreds of finds/attendeds on each event which you attend! Remember, Vinny, there are no rights and wrongs, and there is only moral relativism!"

 

Wow, that happened to you too? :rolleyes:

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This is HILARIOUS AND ONE OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS, ABSURD, LAUGHABLE :rolleyes: Geocaching nonsense practices I've seen to date.

I'd disagree with "one of the most". Not by far. But if they had actually placed it, it is sad.

 

Thanks to Starbrand for pointing out how it can be perfectly normal.

 

I did come across a log once where someone said they are logging a cache after they recently adopted. I'm not sure if they knew where it was before adopting it, but it does seem a little unusual.

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I'm not sure if they knew where it was before adopting it, but it does seem a little unusual.

I also have an adopted one that I have never been to before. Not sure what I will do when I eventually get out there to a spot I have never been and take a look at it. I will have to search.

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Some novice cachers have no idea that this is unusual; the only log type they've ever used is "Found it!" so they use that. They're unaware of "write note" as an option. I watched a couple near me do this on nearly every cache they owned, as they dropped and picked up bugs. Eventually someone must have told them that it's an unusual logging practice.

 

Also, there are no "points", it's just bookkeeping.

 

I've had far tougher hunts on some of my own hides than on many caches where I've logged finds. Logging a Found It! on one of those where they've migrated 60+ feet seems okay to me. Haven't done it, but one of these days I might. It's the literal truth. But I do tend to the literal.

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I'm not sure if they knew where it was before adopting it, but it does seem a little unusual.

I also have an adopted one that I have never been to before. Not sure what I will do when I eventually get out there to a spot I have never been and take a look at it. I will have to search.

That's different ! If you adopt a cache you haven't found yet then of course you should go hunt it and log it. Totally different scenario. :rolleyes:

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I'd like to see caches work like travel bugs. (whodathunkit). You get credit for ownership, owners don't get a find count for logging their own, and others only get one credit regardless of how many times they log.

 

Of course we're supposed to get along (or is it we aren't allowed to disagree?) so I won't say logging your own cache is wrong. :rolleyes:

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I'd like to see caches work like travel bugs. (whodathunkit). You get credit for ownership, owners don't get a find count for logging their own, and others only get one credit regardless of how many times they log.

 

Of course we're supposed to get along (or is it we aren't allowed to disagree?) so I won't say logging your own cache is wrong. :rolleyes:

 

Great idea !

 

I'll say it for you.... "Logging your own cache is WRONG !"

 

There. Snap.

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I wouldn't log my own caches, but there is nothing to stop anyone from doing so. Vinny....you have one heck of an overactive imagination to come up with the stuff you type. I enjoy reading it but wonder where it comes from.

 

*raises a hand* From over here, in Nebraska... but he has to pay me quite a bit for it.

 

To the original OP - here's a hint for you... Vinny is *never* serious.

 

Except when he is.

 

I, on the other hand, am always serious.

 

Except when I'm not.

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Given TSAWSF's track record on this forum, I'd be willing to bet a signature button that someone has logged a find on one of their own caches to compensate for a find which (s)he deleted, a practice which I have seen done and even advised on this forum. This would be his/her, subtle as usual, way of pointing it out publicly.

 

I'm not enough of a "Forum Lizard" :rolleyes: to go tracking it down, though.

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I think we'll go log all of our own caches tomorrow and get ourselves 67 more points.

What are points? I don't see any points anywhere. Do I win something if I have more points? What I see is that the website for some reason posts a count of the number of Found It, Attended, and Webcam Photo Taken logs that a person has posted. I would like to believe that people only uses these log when they found a cache, attended an event, or had their picture taken at a webcam; but I have no way of knowing. Sometimes the cache owners will verify if this is the case. They may even go so far as to check that someone has signed the log book in the cache. They may delete the logs of someone who appears to have posted a Found It, Attended, or Webcam Photo Taken log when they have not found the cache, attended the event, or had their photo taken. You may ask why can people post a Found It log at a cache they own. There are several reasons. As pointed out, because of the ability to adopt a cache you haven't yet found, some people will claim a find when they found a cache they've adopted. There are also some rare grandfathered moving caches. It was generally considered good form to log a find on a moving cache that has been rehidden in a new location from where you had hidden it. Most people also have no problem with people attending events they own or even with claiming a Webcam if they post the required photo. I have also seen cachers who use a team account. They mostly cache together and log their finds together. But sometimes one team member may hide a cache and then allow the other to find it. Rather than creating a sock puppet account for this purpose they simply log the cache with the same account that hid it. This may seem hilarious and absurd but to the team that does it is makes perfect sense. I've also seen cachers going back to do maintenance on their cache. Somebody has not returned the cache exactly as they found. The cache owner has to search for their own cache. They feel that this was as much effort as any other find and log a 'Found It'. It may seem ridiculous and laughable to you, but to the person who had to find their own cache it makes sense. I have no doubt that there are people who log a find on their own cache just because they can and the seen their find count increased by one if they do so. If they really want more points, they should know that nothing is stopping them from claiming 100 finds on each of their caches. In fact they might be able to just keep logging 'Found It' until they show up on the top of one the so-called leader boards. It may be that TPTB would ban such an account before that happens but it seems that they aren't going to be too concerned by an occasional 'Fount It' log on an owned cache.

 

What I find ridiculous, absurd, hilarious, and laughable are the people who actually find caches and then don't log them online. What is wrong with these people. They are entitle to claim points and they don't. Why the object of every game is to get the most points (except for golf - for some reason you're suppose to get the least points in golf- I can't understand that), so what are these people playing. Certainly not the same geocaching game as I am. :rolleyes:

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Given TSAWSF's track record on this forum, I'd be willing to bet a signature button that someone has logged a find on one of their own caches to compensate for a find which (s)he deleted, a practice which I have seen done and even advised on this forum. This would be his/her, subtle as usual, way of pointing it out publicly.

 

I'm not enough of a "Forum Lizard" :rolleyes: to go tracking it down, though.

 

Guess what ? You'd be wrong. Today someone logged 10 caches they hid with someone else. They both went out to do maintenance on one and the other one LOGGED ALL OF THEM AS FINDS and said, "I'm taking the smiley on this...I"m taking the smiley on this.....I'm taking the smiley on this.....I'm taking the smiley on this..... Get it ?

 

PS: There's nothing "subtle," about me. I don't beat around the bush. If I deleted someone's log and they logged a find on their own cache page to make up for it, I COULDN'T CARE LESS and I wouldn't make up some thread to pull the wool over your eyes like I"ve seen other people do. You wouldn't believe how many people log our caches yet their names aren't on the actual paper log. Why not respond to the thread instead of trying to stir up some old pot. Again, gimme a break. That all you got ??

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Guess what ? You'd be wrong. Today someone logged 10 caches they hid with someone else. They both went out to do maintenance on one and the other one LOGGED ALL OF THEM AS FINDS and said, "I'm taking the smiley on this...I"m taking the smiley on this.....I'm taking the smiley on this.....I'm taking the smiley on this..... Get it ?

 

PS: There's nothing "subtle," about me. I don't beat around the bush. If I deleted someone's log and they logged a find on their own cache page, I COULDN'T CARE LESS and I wouldn't make up some thread to pull the wool over your eyes like I"ve seen other people do.

 

Well, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. The world's still spinning on it's axis, the last I checked. :rolleyes:

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Given TSAWSF's track record on this forum, I'd be willing to bet a signature button that someone has logged a find on one of their own caches to compensate for a find which (s)he deleted, a practice which I have seen done and even advised on this forum. This would be his/her, subtle as usual, way of pointing it out publicly.

 

I'm not enough of a "Forum Lizard" :rolleyes: to go tracking it down, though.

 

Guess what ? You'd be wrong. Today someone logged 10 caches they hid with someone else. They both went out to do maintenance on one and the other one LOGGED ALL OF THEM AS FINDS and said, "I'm taking the smiley on this...I"m taking the smiley on this.....I'm taking the smiley on this.....I'm taking the smiley on this..... Get it ?

 

Guess I owe you a button.

 

PS: There's nothing "subtle," about me. <snip>

 

I've noticed.

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Have you ever seen someone log their own cache as a find ??

Have you ever seen someone/both people, log a cache they hid together as a find ?

This is HILARIOUS AND ONE OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS, ABSURD, LAUGHABLE :rolleyes: Geocaching nonsense practices I've seen to date. Gimme a break !

(Edit: I think we'll go log all of our own caches tomorrow and get ourselves 67 more points. Then I'm gonna go play hide and seek by myself. I'll hide myself and then see if I can find me !)

 

Clearly you missed out on all the previous number padding schemes.

 

Pocket caches are back!

 

The New Numbers Game I hate to admit it: Jeremy was right (20 pages of debate)

 

Rediculious Event: Number Game???? Is this an abuse or valid (7 pages of debate)

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Guess what ? You'd be wrong. Today someone logged 10 caches they hid with someone else. They both went out to do maintenance on one and the other one LOGGED ALL OF THEM AS FINDS

 

Well, golly...I dunno. If I went to all those caches with my pal, I might ask him/her to let me claim a find on them too. Otherwise, I'd have to be selfish and tell her I couldn't go with her to do the maintenance because I hadn't found his/her caches yet. I mean, it's not like I'd have a good time going back there to find them after I saw where they were.

 

I guess I could ask them to actually let me hunt them as we went. It always feels odd hunting a cache with someone who knows right where they are supposed to be, though. And it eats up a lot of time we could be using to hunt caches neither of us has any claim to already.

 

Ya know, after thinking about this, in the greater scheme of things, this one rates waaaay down there on my list of things to care about.

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Who gives a hoot...Unless you have some need to have mire "Points" than the next guy. Note that this question comes from a player who will delete the "Points" of other players out of a personal grudge(stemming from they're own lack of understanding of the game). They're not "Points", They are merely a record of your activities. If someone put my Cache somewhere else that isn't where I hid it, then I will have to go "Find" it.

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Have you ever seen someone log their own cache as a find ??

Have you ever seen someone/both people, log a cache they hid together as a find ?

This is HILARIOUS AND ONE OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS, ABSURD, LAUGHABLE :) Geocaching nonsense practices I've seen to date. Gimme a break !

(Edit: I think we'll go log all of our own caches tomorrow and get ourselves 67 more points. Then I'm gonna go play hide and seek by myself. I'll hide myself and then see if I can find me !)

If you go hide yourself, I doubt anyone else will try finding you, so Have at it.

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I'm not sure if they knew where it was before adopting it, but it does seem a little unusual.

I also have an adopted one that I have never been to before. Not sure what I will do when I eventually get out there to a spot I have never been and take a look at it. I will have to search.

That's different ! If you adopt a cache you haven't found yet then of course you should go hunt it and log it. Totally different scenario. :)

So, if I found a Cache, then adopted it, shall I delete my find? Get over it, nobody else in the world cares how many "Points" you think you have. Coming in the forums to cry about how else logs their "Points" will certainly lose you "Points" in the respect and credibility realm. If you'can't tell from the replies you get in here, you are quickly gaining a long list of people who will pay no mind to your opinion.

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Have you ever seen someone log their own cache as a find ??

Have you ever seen someone/both people, log a cache they hid together as a find ?

This is HILARIOUS AND ONE OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS, ABSURD, LAUGHABLE :) Geocaching nonsense practices I've seen to date. Gimme a break !

(Edit: I think we'll go log all of our own caches tomorrow and get ourselves 67 more points. Then I'm gonna go play hide and seek by myself. I'll hide myself and then see if I can find me !)

 

I did once. And why is really none of your business ( :D ) but I will tell you anyway. It was a very VERY difficult hide. Someone found it, but decided that it wasn't in a safe place so they moved it about 20 feet away. Note that this was a very well cammouflaged micro. Several people DNF'd it after that, so I went to check up on it. I spent a good hour looking for it that day, and about 1/2 another day. In jest, I claimed a DNF on my own cache. On the 3rd trip, I finally found it, and tethered it with a wire fishing leader to a nearby shrub this time! Since I had spent all that time AND claimed a DNF (in jest) I decided that I would also claim a Find (also in jest). So... gasp! that bit of humor and drama accounts for about 1/3000 of my finds, so I'm not too worried about it. It was, and still is, fun.

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Ya know, after thinking about this, in the greater scheme of things, this one rates waaaay down there on my list of things to care about.

Yup. Some folks are so desperate to be offended at something, that they'll let little things blossom into big things. :):D

For me, this practice rates just about 3 degrees below "Meh". :D

 

It was, and still is, fun.

Now we're talking about what really matters. :laughing:

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Today someone logged 10 caches they hid with someone else. They both went out to do maintenance on one and the other one LOGGED ALL OF THEM AS FINDS and said, "I'm taking the smiley on this...I"m taking the smiley on this.....I'm taking the smiley on this.....I'm taking the smiley on this..... Get it ?
So?

 

At most, a 'find' is an agreement between the cache owner and cache logger. If a cache owner agrees to allow a 'find' to stand, it's all good. Even if a cache owner were to log his own cache 50,000 times, it would not raise to the level that would cause it to be placed on my 'Things I care about' list. (50,001 would put it way down at the bottom of the list below 'Why does my Roomba sometimes not go back to it's charger?'

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Your original reply to my post in the post above, which you craftily and sneakily edited last nite, was one which I found very insulting, because in it, you implied that you were a righteous millionaire, and that I was a non-righteous millionaire. This inference so insulted me that it caused my ever-so-important self-esteem to plummet, and so I took five minutes after dinner last night to visit the listing pages of three of my archived caches and to log an additional thirty finds on each of them, for a total of 90 new finds. That proactive act drastically improved my self-esteem and restored it to the levels at which it was before your horrible insulting post.

 

I am so glad for moral relativism, for it means that there are no rights or wrongs, and that all actions are merely relative, and, in the case of myself and my ever-so-important self-esteem, it means that it is fine for me to do ANYTHING that will help to improve my fragile self-esteem, including the simple and gracious act of logging over 50,000 finds on my own caches. Gosh, I love moral relativism! It is so much neater and cleaner and less-messy than all that silly old stuff of right and wrong that characterized the old-line religions, and that the nuns useta cram down our throats (while beating our knuckles with metal-edged rulers) when I attended Catholic elementary school in the old days! Long live moral relativism, for it increases my find count and my self-esteem!

 

Oh, and I forgive you (that is, the OP) for the horrid insults in your post, the text of which you removed on a later edit. Really. My self-esteem is fine now. That is the only important thing.

 

Excuse me now... I gotta go into my shop and make up the rest of the 400 pocket caches that I am bringing to the local geo-event this coming weekend, where we will all be able to log them as event caches.

 

Life is wonderful.

 

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I recently co-hid a cache. The other cacher "owns" the cache as it was hid under his account. I know where it is, I was there when we both placed it. I have not claimed a "fount it".

 

Yet.

 

I haven't given my kids the full details of the hide. It is significantly challanging that them just knowing the general area is not a spoiler. As soon as they find it I will post the find it (we all cache under the same account, currently) and give them credit.

 

GC1MEE9

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A lot of people play differently. have you ever played a card game at a friends house and you have to play by their "house rules". Everybody has their own little set of rules and I don't criticize other cachers for how they play. I just ask that when they play in my "house" they play by my rules.

I personally don't long finds on my caches but that is how I play.

If GC didn't want people to log finds on their own caches they would make it so you can't.

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For what it's worth, the "Read First!" FAQ in the Getting Started section says this:

 

Can I log a find on my own cache when I go back to visit?

 

It is considered "bad form" to log a find on your own cache when you go for a maintenance check. The same is true if you re-visit another traditional cache, for example, to place or retrieve a travel bug. Use the "post a note" log option to record your visit in these circumstances.

 

In either case, you're not "finding" a cache because you already know where it is! Save the smiley face for use when you've truly discovered a hidden cache.

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For what it's worth, the "Read First!" FAQ in the Getting Started section says this:

 

Can I log a find on my own cache when I go back to visit?

 

It is considered "bad form" to log a find on your own cache when you go for a maintenance check. The same is true if you re-visit another traditional cache, for example, to place or retrieve a travel bug. Use the "post a note" log option to record your visit in these circumstances.

 

In either case, you're not "finding" a cache because you already know where it is! Save the smiley face for use when you've truly discovered a hidden cache.

 

So why doesn't GC just block it so you can't log your own cache or log one twice? (not that I really care if people do that anyways just curious) Why do they allow it and then suggest that you don't do it?

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Other than caches I've later adopted, I only log events I've hosted and so far that has only been one CITO. Usually when I see folks logging their own caches, it's noobs who don't realize that it's uncommon. If you point out that it's considered "bad form" they usually appreciate the info -- but it's just a game and I don't lose any sleep over it either way.

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For what it's worth, the "Read First!" FAQ in the Getting Started section says this:

 

Can I log a find on my own cache when I go back to visit?

 

It is considered "bad form" to log a find on your own cache when you go for a maintenance check. The same is true if you re-visit another traditional cache, for example, to place or retrieve a travel bug. Use the "post a note" log option to record your visit in these circumstances.

 

In either case, you're not "finding" a cache because you already know where it is! Save the smiley face for use when you've truly discovered a hidden cache.

So why doesn't GC just block it so you can't log your own cache or log one twice? (not that I really care if people do that anyways just curious) Why do they allow it and then suggest that you don't do it?
Because they don't really care if people do it, either.
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For what it's worth, the "Read First!" FAQ in the Getting Started section says this:

 

Can I log a find on my own cache when I go back to visit?

 

It is considered "bad form" to log a find on your own cache when you go for a maintenance check. The same is true if you re-visit another traditional cache, for example, to place or retrieve a travel bug. Use the "post a note" log option to record your visit in these circumstances.

 

In either case, you're not "finding" a cache because you already know where it is! Save the smiley face for use when you've truly discovered a hidden cache.

So why doesn't GC just block it so you can't log your own cache or log one twice? (not that I really care if people do that anyways just curious) Why do they allow it and then suggest that you don't do it?
Because they don't really care if people do it, either.

 

Hmmm, no I don't think that's quite true. If it's abused it's likely to be shut down. Anything under that line is usually left to the community which means we're allowed to give input for or against.

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For what it's worth, the "Read First!" FAQ in the Getting Started section says this:

 

Can I log a find on my own cache when I go back to visit?

 

It is considered "bad form" to log a find on your own cache when you go for a maintenance check. The same is true if you re-visit another traditional cache, for example, to place or retrieve a travel bug. Use the "post a note" log option to record your visit in these circumstances.

 

In either case, you're not "finding" a cache because you already know where it is! Save the smiley face for use when you've truly discovered a hidden cache.

So why doesn't GC just block it so you can't log your own cache or log one twice? (not that I really care if people do that anyways just curious) Why do they allow it and then suggest that you don't do it?
Because they don't really care if people do it, either.

 

Hmmm, no I don't think that's quite true. If it's abused it's likely to be shut down. Anything under that line is usually left to the community which means we're allowed to give input for or against.

I suspect that TPTB use a much different definition of abuse than many posters do.

 

Perhaps if they logged hundreds of finds without any real reason TPTB would step in. I kind of doubt it though.

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Because they don't really care if people do it, either.

 

Hmmm, no I don't think that's quite true. If it's abused it's likely to be shut down. Anything under that line is usually left to the community which means we're allowed to give input for or against.

I suspect that TPTB use a much different definition of abuse than many posters do.

 

Perhaps if they logged hundreds of finds without any real reason TPTB would step in. I kind of doubt it though.

 

That is correct, which is why I understand why they haven't - 'blocked it so you can't log your own cache or log one twice' and why I don't agree with your 'Because they don't really care if people do it, either.' statement.

 

As far as I'm concerned you can log every cache you own, have at it sunshine.

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Because they don't really care if people do it, either.

 

Hmmm, no I don't think that's quite true. If it's abused it's likely to be shut down. Anything under that line is usually left to the community which means we're allowed to give input for or against.

I suspect that TPTB use a much different definition of abuse than many posters do.

 

Perhaps if they logged hundreds of finds without any real reason TPTB would step in. I kind of doubt it though.

 

That is correct, which is why I understand why they haven't - 'blocked it so you can't log your own cache or log one twice' and why I don't agree with your 'Because they don't really care if people do it, either.' statement.

 

As far as I'm concerned you can log every cache you own, have at it sunshine.

It's kinda funny. Several people earlier in the thread gave reasons why one might want to log a 'Found It' log with the same account that owns the cache. There are similar reasons why one might want to log multiple 'Found It' logs from one account on a given cache. While these reasons may be rare and in some cases may not meet a puritan's standard for logging a find, they nevertheless exist and TPTB would like to keep this option open for those cases. Rather than hard coding a limit on when you can log 'Found It', they leave it to cache finders and cache owners to work what is a legitimate use of the 'Found It' log and police this themselves.

 

I once argued in a thread like this that TPTB would never prevent duplicate logs because that would be tantamount to admitting that the points do matter. I got a response asking why then does Waymarking only allows you to visit a given Waymark one time. That surprised me as when Waymarking was first put out in beta release there were comments that you visited waymarks instead of finding them just to avoid this kind of angst. But sure enough on Waymarking you can only visit a waymark once. Even though Jeremy, in another thread, agreed with me that this was a silly limitation, it still remains in Waymarking. Therefore I have learned to never say never. If TPTB ever get tired with all of these threads that don't find the reasons for logging 'Found It' on one's own cache sufficient and insist that the cheating must be stopped, they could very well change the site to prevent these logs.

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Because they don't really care if people do it, either.

 

Hmmm, no I don't think that's quite true. If it's abused it's likely to be shut down. Anything under that line is usually left to the community which means we're allowed to give input for or against.

I suspect that TPTB use a much different definition of abuse than many posters do.

 

Perhaps if they logged hundreds of finds without any real reason TPTB would step in. I kind of doubt it though.

 

That is correct, which is why I understand why they haven't - 'blocked it so you can't log your own cache or log one twice' and why I don't agree with your 'Because they don't really care if people do it, either.' statement.

 

As far as I'm concerned you can log every cache you own, have at it sunshine.

It's kinda funny. Several people earlier in the thread gave reasons why one might want to log a 'Found It' log with the same account that owns the cache. There are similar reasons why one might want to log multiple 'Found It' logs from one account on a given cache. While these reasons may be rare and in some cases may not meet a puritan's standard for logging a find, they nevertheless exist and TPTB would like to keep this option open for those cases. Rather than hard coding a limit on when you can log 'Found It', they leave it to cache finders and cache owners to work what is a legitimate use of the 'Found It' log and police this themselves.

 

I once argued in a thread like this that TPTB would never prevent duplicate logs because that would be tantamount to admitting that the points do matter. I got a response asking why then does Waymarking only allows you to visit a given Waymark one time. That surprised me as when Waymarking was first put out in beta release there were comments that you visited waymarks instead of finding them just to avoid this kind of angst. But sure enough on Waymarking you can only visit a waymark once. Even though Jeremy, in another thread, agreed with me that this was a silly limitation, it still remains in Waymarking. Therefore I have learned to never say never. If TPTB ever get tired with all of these threads that don't find the reasons for logging 'Found It' on one's own cache sufficient and insist that the cheating must be stopped, they could very well change the site to prevent these logs.

Or else Jeremy totally forgot about making the change to the Waymarking site or it simply hasn't bubbled up to the top of the 'Things to do' list.

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Logging a find on your own cache(s) isn't the worst thing. I've come close to logging a DNF on my own cache(s) during maintenance visits. That'd be worse.

Logging a find on your own cache obviously isn't," the worst thing," but it is totally lame, sad, hilarious and pathetic.

 

I would like to know more about this DNF potential log posting during maintenance of your own cache ?? Are you saying your cache was moved so far from where you left it you couldn't find it ?

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I recently co-hid a cache. The other cacher "owns" the cache as it was hid under his account. I know where it is, I was there when we both placed it. I have not claimed a "fount it".

 

Yet.

 

I haven't given my kids the full details of the hide. It is significantly challanging that them just knowing the general area is not a spoiler. As soon as they find it I will post the find it (we all cache under the same account, currently) and give them credit.

 

GC1MEE9

 

Ugghh. I have never in my life witnessed so many twisted tales about making a wrong a right ! It's truly amazing what people come up with. Slice it. Dice it. Chop it up. Spin in this direction. Spin it in that direction. Twist it. Turn it. Chew it up and spit it out but it still comes out the same....LOGGING YOUR OWN CACHES IS WRONG !

 

I haven't told my grandmother where my caches are hidden but maybe I'll log all 75 of them as finds and say she found them and sign her name to the logs.....TeamSeekAndWeShallFind's Grandma !! We share the same account.

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