+karbrooks Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 (edited) Because for some of us the journey is the goal. Edited February 21, 2008 by briansnat Quote Link to comment
+intolerable Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 If the cache was placed at that first great spot, you would have missed seeing the next 10 great spots! Quote Link to comment
Dinoprophet Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 For me, it's because the spot I want to hide the cache is that far. Besides, I like a long hike. I wish more around me were longer hikes. Consider those spots you passed available and hide them! Quote Link to comment
+mvigor Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Yep, just hide a few of your own on your way in or out. Quote Link to comment
+PyrateWench Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Life and Happiness is a journey, not a destination most would agree with caches too. Some of the park & grabs are fun, but especially out on nature trails or pretty views - it's nice to have the long walk to enjoy the find all that much more. Quote Link to comment
+tozainamboku Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Hide some caches along the way. Be glad you don't live where BWidget does. His rule is "When hiding a cache on a new trail, always put it at the absolute end of the trail." This way, new cache hides won't cause you to walk the entire trail a second time. Quote Link to comment
+team moxiepup Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Sometimes a short walk is good, sometimes a long walk is good. I like variety. If I'm caching all day, I don't want to do all of one or the other, but like to mix it up. Moxie likes the longer walks. She gets more sniffing accomplished! Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Geocaching is what you make of it. I would enjoy a beautiful walk just for the sake of the walk. I don't need a cache every 528.5 feet. Some do and I respect that as well but I like the walk myself. Quote Link to comment
+Mule Ears Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 A whole mile? That's inhuman! Quote Link to comment
+karbrooks Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... That makes sense! Quote Link to comment
+Team_CSG Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 (edited) I wouuld recommend the book 'OPEN YOUR HEART WITH GEOCACHING' as to why the cache was placed where it was. Edited February 21, 2008 by arthurat Quote Link to comment
+karbrooks Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 A whole mile? That's inhuman! Ha Ha... you are funny! Quote Link to comment
+Machuco Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 (edited) Personally I prefer the caches that you can grab without even getting out of the car, of which I have found a couple, but far too few IMHO. Edited February 21, 2008 by dadfish Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 ... I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... Your caching muse makes it's own demands. When you place a cache your muse will guide you. Right past a buch of good spots to "The one" that is calling you. Sometimes it's not any one spot, but an area, then you have to pick a spot out of the many there. You never know exactly. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Personally I prefer the caches that you can grab without even getting out of the car, of which I have found a couple, but far too few IMHO. Thost are hard to find. Quote Link to comment
+Zolgar Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 A whole mile? That's inhuman! Why, when I was your age. If I wanted to find me a geocache, I had to walk 20 miles. In the snow. Up hill, BOTH WAYS! then I didn't have me none of them newfangled Jee Pee Ess thingies. I had to navigate by the starts. And it was cloudy! And when I finally found my way to Ground Zero, I hate to fight a pack of Velociraptors just to be able to sign the log. And I had to sign it in my own blood, because we didn't have ink pens yet. And by god. I was happy! .. Young punks complaining about a mile.. ... Sorry, had to be said. I personally like hikes. Though for me I prefer a fairly short hike that requires me to climb over boulders and such. But, if you're not fond of longer hikes. look at the google map. You'll get a good idea of how far the cache is from the trailhead that way. Quote Link to comment
+Dragonfire870 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Personally, I like park and grabs every now and then, but I do like the caches that take you on a trip and require you to walk on a trail. Not only is it good exercise, but as others have said the journey is why we do it. Quote Link to comment
bogleman Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Every cache I have hidden was placed in a location I wanted you to see. Plus many of the spots hold special interest to me, so I am sharing MY spot with you Quote Link to comment
+karbrooks Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 A whole mile? That's inhuman! Why, when I was your age. If I wanted to find me a geocache, I had to walk 20 miles. In the snow. Up hill, BOTH WAYS! then I didn't have me none of them newfangled Jee Pee Ess thingies. I had to navigate by the starts. And it was cloudy! And when I finally found my way to Ground Zero, I hate to fight a pack of Velociraptors just to be able to sign the log. And I had to sign it in my own blood, because we didn't have ink pens yet. And by god. I was happy! .. Young punks complaining about a mile.. ... Sorry, had to be said. I personally like hikes. Though for me I prefer a fairly short hike that requires me to climb over boulders and such. But, if you're not fond of longer hikes. look at the google map. You'll get a good idea of how far the cache is from the trailhead that way. Actually... NOT young and certainly not PUNK complaining... just curious Quote Link to comment
+Zolgar Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Actually... NOT young and certainly not PUNK complaining... just curious If you actually took what I said as serious, I apologize. I's just being a smartass. No offense was intended, and I didn't think you were really complaining. As for the age comment, I'm actually in the younger bracket on here. Quote Link to comment
+ChileHead Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Funny ... I always think "now why did they hide the cache here so close to the trailhead, when there are bound to be dozens of great spots a mile or so down the trail?" Quote Link to comment
+ChiefWings Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... Chapel Hill has lots of P&Gs if you'd prefer those. I take it you didn't find the cache after the walk. Quote Link to comment
+uminski Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 No Matter where you go there you are! Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Because for some of us the journey is the goal. Exactly! One of my favorite caching shirts says "The journey is the destination." Quote Link to comment
+KBI Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... I'm just curious: Why do you participate in this hobby? Quote Link to comment
+karbrooks Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 Actually... NOT young and certainly not PUNK complaining... just curious If you actually took what I said as serious, I apologize. I's just being a smartass. No offense was intended, and I didn't think you were really complaining. As for the age comment, I'm actually in the younger bracket on here. No problem... I was really just curious since I'm very new to geocachin'! Quote Link to comment
+karbrooks Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... I'm just curious: Why do you participate in this hobby? Because it is fun... and I was JUST asking a simple question... was really just curious because I am new to this and wondering why people place caches where they do... answer your question? Quote Link to comment
+karbrooks Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... Chapel Hill has lots of P&Gs if you'd prefer those. I take it you didn't find the cache after the walk. No, actually I didn't and wow! it was JUST a simple question, since I'm new and curious why people place them where they do. Quote Link to comment
+KBI Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... I'm just curious: Why do you participate in this hobby? Because it is fun... and I was JUST asking a simple question... was really just curious because I am new to this and wondering why people place caches where they do... answer your question? People hide and/or seek geocaches for many reasons. If a cache you found was placed by its hider a bit farther from parking or a greater distance down the trail than you would have hidden it yourself, that only indicates a difference in personal preference between you and the cache owner. I hope your question has already been answered to your satisfaction. Some of my favorite answers so far: Because for some of us the journey is the goal. If the cache was placed at that first great spot, you would have missed seeing the next 10 great spots! For me, it's because the spot I want to hide the cache is that far. Besides, I like a long hike. I wish more around me were longer hikes. Some of the park & grabs are fun, but especially out on nature trails or pretty views - it's nice to have the long walk to enjoy the find all that much more. I like variety. I do like the caches that take you on a trip and require you to walk on a trail. Not only is it good exercise, but as others have said the journey is why we do it. Funny ... I always think "now why did they hide the cache here so close to the trailhead, when there are bound to be dozens of great spots a mile or so down the trail?" The fact that these types of answers were not already self-evident to you – the fact that you felt the need to ask – led me to wonder whether maybe your reason for participating has more to do with racking up your find score than enjoying the hunt for each individual cache. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a numbers hound or having a preference for easy hides. The good news is that there is a wide variety of fun to be found in this hobby. Once you acquire a little familiarity with the game and with the functions of the website you should be able to easily narrow down your target list and, if you like, only go after the types of hides you are more likely to enjoy while avoiding the types you’d rather ignore. Does that help? By the way, I notice that although you have been registered as a cacher for four months you have no cache finds logged under your account. Have you attempted to find any yet? Quote Link to comment
+Peconic Bay Sailors Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... Kind of like speedboats vs. sailboats... In a speedboat, it's all about the the destination... In a sailboat, it's all about the trip getting there... Quote Link to comment
+karbrooks Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... I'm just curious: Why do you participate in this hobby? Because it is fun... and I was JUST asking a simple question... was really just curious because I am new to this and wondering why people place caches where they do... answer your question? People hide and/or seek geocaches for many reasons. If a cache you found was placed by its hider a bit farther from parking or a greater distance down the trail than you would have hidden it yourself, that only indicates a difference in personal preference between you and the cache owner. I hope your question has already been answered to your satisfaction. Some of my favorite answers so far: Because for some of us the journey is the goal. If the cache was placed at that first great spot, you would have missed seeing the next 10 great spots! For me, it's because the spot I want to hide the cache is that far. Besides, I like a long hike. I wish more around me were longer hikes. Some of the park & grabs are fun, but especially out on nature trails or pretty views - it's nice to have the long walk to enjoy the find all that much more. I like variety. I do like the caches that take you on a trip and require you to walk on a trail. Not only is it good exercise, but as others have said the journey is why we do it. Funny ... I always think "now why did they hide the cache here so close to the trailhead, when there are bound to be dozens of great spots a mile or so down the trail?" The fact that these types of answers were not already self-evident to you – the fact that you felt the need to ask – led me to wonder whether maybe your reason for participating has more to do with racking up your find score than enjoying the hunt for each individual cache. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a numbers hound or having a preference for easy hides. The good news is that there is a wide variety of fun to be found in this hobby. Once you acquire a little familiarity with the game and with the functions of the website you should be able to easily narrow down your target list and, if you like, only go after the types of hides you are more likely to enjoy while avoiding the types you’d rather ignore. Does that help? By the way, I notice that although you have been registered as a cacher for four months you have no cache finds logged under your account. Have you attempted to find any yet? Your answer does not deserve a reply from me... it was just a question that you got off your high horse to answer... get back on. Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 it was JUST a simple question, since I'm new and curious why people place them where they do. As seven or thirteen other people said: Because that is the spot that I want to show you. (Well, on most of my caches, anyway.) My QC department did not approve of 'those other spots on the way in." They were boring. Hike the mile or two in, and see what I want to show you! Not to say that I don't have some really great cache and dashes too... Quote Link to comment
+KBI Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Your answer does not deserve a reply from me... it was just a question that you got off your high horse to answer... get back on. Hmm. If it looks like a sock puppet, and it quacks like a sock puppet, and it smells like a sock puppet ... Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... Three years ago almost every cache that was hidden required a hike to get to. There is an entire new world out there if you leave your car and walk about a mile or more. But most cachers it seems just want to do drive ups. I have had a lot of fun hiking to caches. I have one cache that can take over an hour to get to while hiking up a steep fire road and trail. I placed after finding three other caches in the same area. I must have done over 5 hours of hikking in the hills that day, but I had a good time doing it. One time a carried a bowling/travel bug up a very steep hill for my 1000th find That was also fun. Edited February 23, 2008 by JohnnyVegas Quote Link to comment
+WRASTRO Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... Three years ago almost every cache that was hidden required a hike to get to. There is an entire new world out there if you leave your car and walk about a mile or more. But most cachers it seems just want to do drive ups. I have had a lot of fun hiking to caches. I have one cache that can take over an hour to get to while hiking up a steep fire road and trail. I placed after finding three other caches in the same area. I must have done over 5 hours of hikking in the hills that day, but I had a good time doing it. One time a carried a bowling/travel bug up a very steep hill for my 1000th find That was also fun. As with most "the way it used to be" comments this one is ridiculous. We started caching in late 2003 and most of the caches we found then, and now, require very little walking/hiking, etc., although we do enjoy the ones that take a bit more effort. In fact, we try to find hide locations in our urban area that do require cachers to expend a bit of energy. Of course we live in the Redmond area of Washington which could well be the micro/nano capital of the World. It seems that if you live in an urban area most of the caches in your area will likely require minimal walking to find. If you live in a less developed area your experience may be different. The variety is one of the best parts of the game. Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... Three years ago almost every cache that was hidden required a hike to get to. There is an entire new world out there if you leave your car and walk about a mile or more. But most cachers it seems just want to do drive ups. I have had a lot of fun hiking to caches. I have one cache that can take over an hour to get to while hiking up a steep fire road and trail. I placed after finding three other caches in the same area. I must have done over 5 hours of hikking in the hills that day, but I had a good time doing it. One time a carried a bowling/travel bug up a very steep hill for my 1000th find That was also fun. As with most "the way it used to be" comments this one is ridiculous. We started caching in late 2003 and most of the caches we found then, and now, require very little walking/hiking, etc., although we do enjoy the ones that take a bit more effort. In fact, we try to find hide locations in our urban area that do require cachers to expend a bit of energy. Of course we live in the Redmond area of Washington which could well be the micro/nano capital of the World. It seems that if you live in an urban area most of the caches in your area will likely require minimal walking to find. If you live in a less developed area your experience may be different. The variety is one of the best parts of the game. Well it may have been 4 years ago, I Moved almost 3 years ago, but my statement is not ridiculous- As I recall you were not with me when I found any caches so how is that you know anything about the area that I was caching in then. I use to have to drive at least 30 minutes just to get to an area with a cache. Now days it take less then 5 minutes to find an area to with a cache in it. Edit to add: In the area I was living at the time, for the dates covering 1/18/2000 throught 1/18/04 there were 47 caches (these are still there today) For the dates 1/18/04 through 1/18/08 another 481 caches have been placed, all this in a radius 6 miles. As I said, years ago if you wanted to grab some cache, you were going to have to go hiking. There were very few drive up caches Edited February 23, 2008 by JohnnyVegas Quote Link to comment
+WRASTRO Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... Three years ago almost every cache that was hidden required a hike to get to. There is an entire new world out there if you leave your car and walk about a mile or more. But most cachers it seems just want to do drive ups. I have had a lot of fun hiking to caches. I have one cache that can take over an hour to get to while hiking up a steep fire road and trail. I placed after finding three other caches in the same area. I must have done over 5 hours of hikking in the hills that day, but I had a good time doing it. One time a carried a bowling/travel bug up a very steep hill for my 1000th find That was also fun. As with most "the way it used to be" comments this one is ridiculous. We started caching in late 2003 and most of the caches we found then, and now, require very little walking/hiking, etc., although we do enjoy the ones that take a bit more effort. In fact, we try to find hide locations in our urban area that do require cachers to expend a bit of energy. Of course we live in the Redmond area of Washington which could well be the micro/nano capital of the World. It seems that if you live in an urban area most of the caches in your area will likely require minimal walking to find. If you live in a less developed area your experience may be different. The variety is one of the best parts of the game. Well it may have been 4 years ago, I Moved almost 3 years ago, but my statement is not ridiculous- As I recall you were not with me when I found any caches so how is that you know anything about the area that I was caching in then. I use to have to drive at least 30 minutes just to get to an area with a cache. Now days it take less then 5 minutes to find an area to with a cache in it. Edit to add: In the area I was living at the time, for the dates covering 1/18/2000 throught 1/18/04 there were 47 caches (these are still there today) For the dates 1/18/04 through 1/18/08 another 481 caches have been placed, all this in a radius 6 miles. As I said, years ago if you wanted to grab some cache, you were going to have to go hiking. There were very few drive up caches Perhaps if you qualified your statement and said that almost every cache you found, or that was hidden in your area, years ago required a hike then I would go for that since I have never cached with you and I don't know what your area is or was like. Your blanket statement is still ridiculous. Have you ever cached with me? What do you know about my area or anywhere I have cached? In the 4+ years that we have been caching we have not seen any real change in the distances rquired to get to the majority of caches in our area. What we HAVE seen is a trend toward better hides in the urban area we inhabit. Maybe that is due to the high density of caches here which means fewer cachers are inclined to toss out a film canister and call it a cache. Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good sopts on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... At first your question struck me as rather bizarre and illogical, as in "why wouldn't you want to hike a mile in the woods to find a cache?", and then I realized what is going on for you... ...I realized what you were really trying to tell us, and what you were really asking. And so, here is my answer to your REAL, if implicit, question: I suggest that you become a Premium member if you are not already a Premium member, and that you then start using Pocket Queries (PQs) to select only caches with a Difficulty rating of 1 and a Terrain rating of 1, and hunt only those caches. If you will conscientiously stick to this guideline, I can promise you that you will not encounter such perplexing and annoying problems in the future as that which you have framed in your first post. You may also wish to say a brief prayer each nite as you go to bed, along the lines of "Thank you God for park-and-grab lamppost micros and guardrail micros, for they are my bread and butter and my whole joy." Quote Link to comment
+KBI Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I suggest that you become a Premium member if you are not already a Premium member, and that you then start using Pocket Queries (PQs) to select only caches with a Difficulty rating of 1 and a Terrain rating of 1, and hunt only those caches. If you will conscientiously stick to this guideline, I can promise you that you will not encounter such perplexing and annoying problems in the future as that which you have framed in your first post. Careful. I gave an honest response myself, one which was very similar to your answer, and was rewarded by being told that my post wasn't worth a reply and that my horse was too tall. I suspect there is some other secret agenda going on here, one that I'm sure the OP will reveal to us in his own time. Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) I'm just curious WHY people hide caches a long distance from the starting point when you pass many good spots on the way? I started a cache last week that was almost one mile down a trail, and I passed MANY good places along the way! Just curious.... Well, if the cache was hidden at the first good spot along the trail, then you would have turned around and missed out seeing all the other good spots now, wouldn't you? Going to a new park and finding 3 caches close to the parking area is rather unsatisfying. I am always curious to what the rest of the park is like. Finding just one cache located in the most furtherest spots is more enjoyable. (in my opinion) Edited February 23, 2008 by 4wheelin_fool Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 If it looks like a sock puppet, and it quacks like a sock puppet, and it smells like a sock puppet ... It is a premium member account which appears to belong to a child whose parent is most likely posting. Quote Link to comment
+nekom Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 A lot of cachers are in it in part for the exercise and the fun of a good solid hike. I have read many logs in this area where people actually take `creative' ways to a cache that makes it even longer and more difficult than it would have been from the suggested parking area. I've even done this myself on occasion. Some folks just love a challenge. Quote Link to comment
+MountainMudbug Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 .... because, some people like to walk. We "walk" 8-10 miles in the mountains each weekend for no other "reason" than we like it. Maybe you could invest in some rollerblades or a bike if you don't like walking, or stick to parking lot caches. There is certainly no shortage of those. Quote Link to comment
+Zop Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) Personally I prefer the caches that you can grab without even getting out of the car, of which I have found a couple, but far too few IMHO. Yea! THAT explains our 40 mile plus hike for ONE smliey! Edited February 23, 2008 by Zop Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Personally I prefer the caches that you can grab without even getting out of the car, of which I have found a couple, but far too few IMHO. Yea! THAT explains our 40 mile plus hike for ONE smliey! I think he use one of these Quote Link to comment
+WRASTRO Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Those look like they would be loads of fun. The only problem would be if you run out of fuel... Quote Link to comment
+tozainamboku Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 If it looks like a sock puppet, and it quacks like a sock puppet, and it smells like a sock puppet ... It is a premium member account which appears to belong to a child whose parent is most likely posting. This may explain it then. A parent who goes caching with their child and the child gets too tired to walk all the way to the cache. They are looking for hike that a small child can do without getting tired. They probably also don't want to do just park and grabs since the child likes to find a regular sized cache and trade. So the question is "How do you find child friendly regular sized caches?" Perhaps now people can give some useful suggestions. Quote Link to comment
+intolerable Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Those look like they would be loads of fun. The only problem would be if you run out of fuel... One would probably be ok in regards to fuel if they stuck to caches that didn't require traveling far Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Your answer does not deserve a reply from me... it was just a question that you got off your high horse to answer... get back on. Hmm. If it looks like a sock puppet, and it quacks like a sock puppet, and it smells like a sock puppet ... Quote Link to comment
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