+ThePropers Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 (edited) I have completed the reference guide for setting up geocaching symbols on a Garmin 60 Series. It can be found here. Geocaching Symbols on a 60 Series I have requested that the old thread be closed because new information and updates were being buried deep inside of it. The reference guide will be much easier to compile information in and keep up to date. However, for additional reference, the old thread can be found here. Edited October 6, 2006 by ThePropers Quote Link to comment
+Team Perrito Blanco Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Sweet! Quote Link to comment
+Team Perrito Blanco Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 (edited) I hate double posts! Edited October 6, 2006 by Team Perrito Blanco Quote Link to comment
+DocDiTTo Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Very well done and extremely useful! Thanks for taking the time to put this together!! Quote Link to comment
beautyisgod Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 thank you, i hope i can understand it...i am lost for the GSAK part Quote Link to comment
beautyisgod Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 hey i was wondering for all your picture on your website...how did you take them? did you take a digital camera and take the shot and crop it out using photoshop program? or is there another way to do it? here is what i am talking about Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted October 6, 2006 Author Share Posted October 6, 2006 (edited) hey i was wondering for all your picture on your website...how did you take them? did you take a digital camera and take the shot and crop it out using photoshop program? or is there another way to do it? here is what i am talking about Use the xImage program referenced in the guide, but instead of "Send Images" click the "Get Images" and it will do a screenshot (in .bmp format). From there I just converted it to .jpg format (I used Photoshop, but you could use pretty much anything) Edited October 6, 2006 by ThePropers Quote Link to comment
+dhbaird Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 hey i was wondering for all your picture on your website...how did you take them? did you take a digital camera and take the shot and crop it out using photoshop program? or is there another way to do it? here is what i am talking about Did you include the Microcache icon in your files? Like the person who posted in the other thread, I often like to know which type of cache is close by my route as I often have TB's to share or move along. Quote Link to comment
+Jamie Z Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Looks like a great write-up. Any idea if this will work with the Quest 2 GPS? The Quest currently has the treasure chest open and closed icons (although it lacks the geocaching mode), and I'd like to have real geocaching icons. Jamie Quote Link to comment
+pdxmarathonman Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Wow! Clear, concise and accurate instructions! Thanks for all your effort into making this work (I know you wanted it for yourself), and for taking the time to make it so easy for the rest of the 60C community. Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 Did you include the Microcache icon in your files? Like the person who posted in the other thread, I often like to know which type of cache is close by my route as I often have TB's to share or move along. The micro cache icon is in the "Symbols - Bonus" folder of the zip file. It contains that icon, plus a couple alternative ones for parking and trailheads. I haven't written instructions on using them (which I will soon), but for now just rename them to the symbol you want to replace (they must be called Waypoint Symbol XXX.bmp) and then use xImage to upload it to the GPSr. Depending on the symbol, you may also need to edit the GARMINOTHER.txt to include it. The file is pretty self-explanatory if you open it up in Notepad. Keep in mind that currently you can't use the last 5 symbols (until Garmin fixes this bug) so if you use the micro cache symbol, you'll have to replace one of the other ones. Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 Looks like a great write-up. Any idea if this will work with the Quest 2 GPS? The Quest currently has the treasure chest open and closed icons (although it lacks the geocaching mode), and I'd like to have real geocaching icons. Jamie I am not sure. I'd like to put together a compatibility list, so if you'd like to try it and let me know, that would be great. I think it works on all the 60's, the 76's and someone said it worked on their Legend C. Quote Link to comment
+ProsperoDK Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Looks like a great write-up. Any idea if this will work with the Quest 2 GPS? The Quest currently has the treasure chest open and closed icons (although it lacks the geocaching mode), and I'd like to have real geocaching icons. Jamie I am not sure. I'd like to put together a compatibility list, so if you'd like to try it and let me know, that would be great. I think it works on all the 60's, the 76's and someone said it worked on their Legend C. I would think that it should work on any unit that supports custom icons, so take a look when making a waypoint manually and see if theres a custom group under the waypoint icons. The Product Compatibility list for Garmins POI Loader includes the Quest 2. Check here. ProsperoDK/René Quote Link to comment
HokieBird Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Nice write-up! Though slightly off topic, it might be nice to show an example or refer to another writeup that would explain how to put the Hint in the Notes section. Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 (edited) Nice write-up! Though slightly off topic, it might be nice to show an example or refer to another writeup that would explain how to put the Hint in the Notes section. I wanted to avoid getting too much into GSAK stuff since it's such a big program with 100000 different customizations you could make. If you want the hint though, just put %hint into the Waypoint Description Format field. However, keep in mind longer hints will be truncated, not to mention that it will be super-easy to accidentally see the hint when pulling up the waypoint. Unless of course you're one of those people who use the hint before you ever start looking. There is also the "help" feature in GSAK will tell you everything you could put in here to customize it yourself....and there's the GSAK support forums. Edited October 9, 2006 by ThePropers Quote Link to comment
+markp99 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Nice write-up! Though slightly off topic, it might be nice to show an example or refer to another writeup that would explain how to put the Hint in the Notes section. Here's a suggestion based upon what I do. 1. I use the Waypoint methon described here to load ~800 unfound caches in my area. This leaves room for >150 child waypoints for this same data, plus room for waypoints I make while out caching (i.e., myCar, intermediate waypoints, etc.). I use the waypoint info format suggested in ThePropers' instructions. 2. I also like to see caches that I've found before (for reference) as well as hints when I need them. I dump ALL ~2500 caches from my GSAK database as "Custom POI's". I include the HINT in this data using a GSAK macro (holds more "hint" info than regular waypoints). I have modified the std "GarminPOIcsv.txt" macro to suite my taste for format and content. Mark Quote Link to comment
+Jamie Z Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 I am not sure. I'd like to put together a compatibility list, so if you'd like to try it and let me know, that would be great. I think it works on all the 60's, the 76's and someone said it worked on their Legend C. Ok, I'm planning to try it. I did get the custom symbols to work with Custom POIs a while back, but then I never played with it anymore. Your instructions make custom symbols available to any POIs on the GPS, correct? Not just waypoints uploaded with POI Loader... Anyway, I'll go through your instructions with my Quest 2 and try to get back to you as to whether I can get it to work or not. Thanks for the up front legwork. Jamie Quote Link to comment
+Geoffnco Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I'd like to say thanks to ThePropers - sat down last evening, followed the guide and it has worked perfectly for my 60cx. Cheers Geoff Quote Link to comment
+Jamie Z Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 (edited) Propers, I can confirm that the custom symbols work on the Quest 2. Very cool. I was able to follow your instructions almost to the letter. Only two differences. For step 8, select all, I had to choose "Waypoint Symbols" from a dropdown. There was another option called "Splash Screen." Also, I couldn't "Select All." When I did that, the upload didn't work. The Quest 2 shows something like 52 places for custom waypoints, and I guess it got confused that I selected all 52, but was only uploading 24. So, when I selected only waypoints 0-23, the upload worked perfectly. Thank you. I altered GSAK as suggested, uploaded some caches near my home, and they all popped up on my screen, just as they should. One question/suggestion: Any way to make a custom symbol for micro caches? Although not a different type, I'd like to show different symbols for traditional micros and traditional regular caches. Also, I note that the custom waypoints include one for DNFs, but there doesn't seem to be a way to have GSAK assign a separate waypoint for caches which you have DNFed, which is different from caches I simply haven't yet found (meaning I haven't even looked for them yet). Once again, thanks for the work in putting the instructions together. Jamie Edited October 12, 2006 by Jamie Z Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted October 13, 2006 Author Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) Propers, I can confirm that the custom symbols work on the Quest 2. Very cool. I was able to follow your instructions almost to the letter. Only two differences. For step 8, select all, I had to choose "Waypoint Symbols" from a dropdown. There was another option called "Splash Screen." Also, I couldn't "Select All." When I did that, the upload didn't work. The Quest 2 shows something like 52 places for custom waypoints, and I guess it got confused that I selected all 52, but was only uploading 24. So, when I selected only waypoints 0-23, the upload worked perfectly. Thank you. I altered GSAK as suggested, uploaded some caches near my home, and they all popped up on my screen, just as they should. One question/suggestion: Any way to make a custom symbol for micro caches? Although not a different type, I'd like to show different symbols for traditional micros and traditional regular caches. Also, I note that the custom waypoints include one for DNFs, but there doesn't seem to be a way to have GSAK assign a separate waypoint for caches which you have DNFed, which is different from caches I simply haven't yet found (meaning I haven't even looked for them yet). Once again, thanks for the work in putting the instructions together. Jamie There actually is a micro symbol in the "bonus" folder that's in the .zip file. However, I had to update it tonight because of some display issues, and there's a new file available for download on the site. I've also added a "Bonus Symbol Usage" section to tell you how to use it. The DNF symbol is there more so you can assign it as you're out in the field, assuming you DNF a cache. In GSAK you can set the status of a cache to "DNF" (by right clicking on it) but I don't know if you can assign a symbol based on that status. Maybe a macro or something, but I'm not that familiar with using macros... Oh yeah, I also started a compatibility list, and updated that section with using "select all" in the xImage step. Thanks! Edited October 13, 2006 by ThePropers Quote Link to comment
+bulletproofcj7 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Nice write-up! Though slightly off topic, it might be nice to show an example or refer to another writeup that would explain how to put the Hint in the Notes section. I wanted to avoid getting too much into GSAK stuff since it's such a big program with 100000 different customizations you could make. If you want the hint though, just put %hint into the Waypoint Description Format field. However, keep in mind longer hints will be truncated, not to mention that it will be super-easy to accidentally see the hint when pulling up the waypoint. Unless of course you're one of those people who use the hint before you ever start looking. There is also the "help" feature in GSAK will tell you everything you could put in here to customize it yourself....and there's the GSAK support forums. I tried adding the hint but it diddnt come up on the gpsr. where will i find it now? Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 (edited) I tried adding the hint but it diddnt come up on the gpsr. where will i find it now? It should show up in the Notes field when viewing a waypoint. What does your "Waypoint Description Format" field look like in GSAK? One thought is that perhaps you have other things in front of the %hint that are using up all the available characters on the GPSr. Edited October 19, 2006 by ThePropers Quote Link to comment
+bulletproofcj7 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 (edited) Nice write-up! Though slightly off topic, it might be nice to show an example or refer to another writeup that would explain how to put the Hint in the Notes section. I wanted to avoid getting too much into GSAK stuff since it's such a big program with 100000 different customizations you could make. If you want the hint though, just put %hint into the Waypoint Description Format field. However, keep in mind longer hints will be truncated, not to mention that it will be super-easy to accidentally see the hint when pulling up the waypoint. Unless of course you're one of those people who use the hint before you ever start looking. There is also the "help" feature in GSAK will tell you everything you could put in here to customize it yourself....and there's the GSAK support forums. Ok got that fixed. I was trying to include too much info. However there is still space left in the "note" field and the info is incomplete, i think i remember reading somewhere that you can not fill this space at all for some reason. Thanks Edited October 19, 2006 by bulletproofcj7 Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 The limit is 30 characters in the note field. If you have and "X" model, you can also use custom POIs which allow 88 characters in the note field. Quote Link to comment
+bulletproofcj7 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 The limit is 30 characters in the note field. If you have and "X" model, you can also use custom POIs which allow 88 characters in the note field. I'm listening. How do you do this? I have a map 60csx Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php...=122497&hl= 1) Make any GPX files that you want. The limits is 44 characters for the "name" field and 88 characters for the "notes" field. GSAK works the best as you can customize the data put in each field. 2) Store them in a folder of your choice. 3) Install the Garmin POI loader, http://www.garmin.com/products/poiloader/. 4) Upload the POI file and look for Custom POIs on the unit. They will sort by the filenames of the GPX files. Quote Link to comment
+popop Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Just went through the setup on my 60C - worked as described, thanks a great deal to VERY well written instructions. Very nice to have these symbols on the GPSr screen. Saves me looking at the PDA one time anyway. I take it that the 60C does NOT have the ability to load custom poi's then? Hmmmm, the justification for buying an new X model is growing! Thanks for the great procedural write-up Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 (edited) http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php...=122497&hl= 1) Make any GPX files that you want. The limits is 44 characters for the "name" field and 88 characters for the "notes" field. GSAK works the best as you can customize the data put in each field. 2) Store them in a folder of your choice. 3) Install the Garmin POI loader, http://www.garmin.com/products/poiloader/. 4) Upload the POI file and look for Custom POIs on the unit. They will sort by the filenames of the GPX files. I have a macro around here somewhere that will work with POIs and the custom symbols. It was written by another cacher (ProsperoDK) and sent to me. I can't remember exactly, but I found too many drawbacks with trying to cache with POIs, which is why I've stuck to the waypoints rather than the POIs. Off the top of my head, the symbols didn't work quite right with the POIs. I believe the symbols didn't display on the list to tell you what type the cache was at a glance, but the deal breaker was that after zooming out more than 800 feet on the map screen, POIs do not display. I tend to use that screen a lot when looking around my current position to try to find groups of caches, and being forced to be zoomed into 800 feet or less was useless to me. I still use POIs to store my friends/family addresses and I have a POI loaded with all of my "already found" caches, but for general geocaching I've stuck with the waypoints. Both systems have their pluses and minuses, but for me, the waypoint system won out, despite having less characters available in the name and notes fields. The system in my FAQ above also won out over the unit's built-in Geocaching mode, which I also found less-than-stellar. I'll try to find that macro though if you're interested. I'm sure it's buried in my email somewhere... Edited October 19, 2006 by ThePropers Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 You can use both. With GPX files, it only takes a seconf to update the files. I put caches in as waypoints with container size, type, difficulty, etc... in the note. I then make a second copy of them all as POIs. These hold all the hints. There are no downsides to having multiple copies of the same points on the unit. I also keep a copy of all found caches and a few other things in the POIs. You can also save POIs to waypoints in the unit, so a POI can quickly beocme a "Geocache" and have the Geocache features. Quote Link to comment
+dhbaird Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 (edited) Off the top of my head, the symbols didn't work quite right with the POIs. I believe the symbols didn't display on the list to tell you what type the cache was at a glance, but the deal breaker was that after zooming out more than 800 feet on the map screen, POIs do not display. I tend to use that screen a lot when looking around my current position to try to find groups of caches, and being forced to be zoomed into 800 feet or less was useless to me. I'll try to find that macro though if you're interested. I'm sure it's buried in my email somewhere... I thought that there is a setting that changes when the POI's display and that you can change that setting for your own preferences. I'd be interested in the macro for GSAK though. I use 3 Custom POI's right now and that sounds like the way to go for my needs. Edited October 19, 2006 by dhbaird Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 You can use both. With GPX files, it only takes a seconf to update the files. I put caches in as waypoints with container size, type, difficulty, etc... in the note. I then make a second copy of them all as POIs. These hold all the hints. There are no downsides to having multiple copies of the same points on the unit. After I posted that I went outside to mow the grass and realized I should probably do something similar. I wasn't before because I have the hint in cachemate, but that requires digging out my palm. If I had the hint in a POI that I could bring up, it would save me digging my palm. Uhmm...not that I ever need the hint of course. I already keep my found caches and others in POIs. Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 You can use both. With GPX files, it only takes a seconf to update the files. I put caches in as waypoints with container size, type, difficulty, etc... in the note. I then make a second copy of them all as POIs. These hold all the hints. There are no downsides to having multiple copies of the same points on the unit. I also keep a copy of all found caches and a few other things in the POIs. You can also save POIs to waypoints in the unit, so a POI can quickly beocme a "Geocache" and have the Geocache features. I do the same. Since the cache's coordinates are attached to the hint POI, the hint I'm looking for always sorts to the top when I bring up the list. Of course, this may not be true for Puzzles. Quote Link to comment
+ProsperoDK Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 (edited) I have a macro around here somewhere that will work with POIs and the custom symbols. It was written by another cacher (ProsperoDK) and sent to me. [edited] I'll try to find that macro though if you're interested. I'm sure it's buried in my email somewhere... Seeing ThePropers reference to the macro I had written and had mailed a copy of to him, gave me the push to publish it to the GSAK forum for macro's. It can be found here. ProsperoDK/René Edited October 20, 2006 by ProsperoDK Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Two things: Got this reply from Garmin today regarding those custom symbols. I'll just hold my breath until they fix it. 1) Thank you for contacting Garmin. Yes, I've confirmed that waypoint symbol issue with my GPSmap 60CSX unit and I've reported this error to our software designers. I expect to see a software updated correcting this issue soon. Unfortunately I don't have any additional information on the status of this update at this time. Feel free to contact us again by phone(M-F 8am-5pm CST) or e-mail for any further assistance. I've had several questions regarding using these symbols with geocaching mode. Although it does make it a pain, it is possible in a limited capacity, so I'll be updating my guide with that when I get back from vacation in a couple of weeks, but for now, here's a bit of information. Go to your geocaching setup on your GPSr. Assign the Traditional/Green Box icon to unfound caches and the found/smilie icon to found caches, rather than the open/closed treasure boxes that it defaults to. Now when you use geocaching mode, traditionals will show up, and it functions normally. However, it only works for traditional caches (not multis, mysteries, child waypoints...etc). If you then want to do a multi, you can go back into geocaching mode and assing the unfound icon to the multi symbol, and it will now work for multi caches. Admittedly, it's a pain if you are doing a wide variety of cache types, but it's there if you want it, or if you're in an area where there are all traditionals, it could be handy. One of the pluses of doing this is when you "find" a cache in geocaching mode, it does add an entry to your calendar, if you are interested in that. Personally I'm not that into any of the added functionality of geocaching mode, but I may use it if I plan out a trip where I'm only hitting up traditional caches, which is actually quite often. Quote Link to comment
+BHTM Big Head Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Great stuff Propers! I just switched from a Magellan to a Garmin 60CSx and this makes me love my new one even more!! Quote Link to comment
+mr007s Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 [*] I've had several questions regarding using these symbols with geocaching mode. Although it does make it a pain, it is possible in a limited capacity, so I'll be updating my guide with that when I get back from vacation in a couple of weeks, but for now, here's a bit of information. Go to your geocaching setup on your GPSr. Assign the Traditional/Green Box icon to unfound caches and the found/smilie icon to found caches, rather than the open/closed treasure boxes that it defaults to. Now when you use geocaching mode, traditionals will show up, and it functions normally. However, it only works for traditional caches (not multis, mysteries, child waypoints...etc). If you then want to do a multi, you can go back into geocaching mode and assing the unfound icon to the multi symbol, and it will now work for multi caches. Admittedly, it's a pain if you are doing a wide variety of cache types, but it's there if you want it, or if you're in an area where there are all traditionals, it could be handy. One of the pluses of doing this is when you "find" a cache in geocaching mode, it does add an entry to your calendar, if you are interested in that. Personally I'm not that into any of the added functionality of geocaching mode, but I may use it if I plan out a trip where I'm only hitting up traditional caches, which is actually quite often. I set mine up as stated. If a cache is found that requires a different icon I do this: Find waypoint, enter: or select symbol, enter. After the find I call the cache back up and manually change the icon to the smillie or, if DNF, a frownie. This only takes a few seconds after you do it a few times and get use to it. On a different note. All the symbols work in my Mapsource except the mystery blue ? mark. I have MetroGuide with the latest upgrade. Could be I have done something simply wrong or is anyone else experiencing this. All I get for mystery is a black box. When I look to change it manually the icon isn't in my mapsource symbols even thou it is in the mapsource symbol folder. I can't figure it out. Thanks, I've had a lot of fun using this. Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 I set mine up as stated. If a cache is found that requires a different icon I do this: Find waypoint, enter: or select symbol, enter. After the find I call the cache back up and manually change the icon to the smillie or, if DNF, a frownie. This only takes a few seconds after you do it a few times and get use to it. On a different note. All the symbols work in my Mapsource except the mystery blue ? mark. I have MetroGuide with the latest upgrade. Could be I have done something simply wrong or is anyone else experiencing this. All I get for mystery is a black box. When I look to change it manually the icon isn't in my mapsource symbols even thou it is in the mapsource symbol folder. I can't figure it out. Thanks, I've had a lot of fun using this. That's pretty much what I do. I found that even setting it up that way, you don't have to find nearest "geocaches" as any "waypoints" with the traditional symbol actually use the geocaching mode. I don't really like the geocaching mode though, so I don't really use it. As for mapsource, I will check that out when I get home next week and post my findings here. I don't have my normal computer with me right now, so it will have to wait until Monday or so. Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) I added a few things last night. Someone informed me that the Vista series required a different naming convention, so I added another folder for the Vista. I added in a short waypoints vs. POI discussion I added in the limited geocaching mode setup section. I have also received a macro from Cache U Nuts that should automate GSAK so you don't have to set up the custom waypoint mapping by hand. I have put it into the file, but am still testing it. I was having a bit of trouble with the child waypoints while using the macro, but it may have been error on my part. I'll have to look at it when I get back home tonight. Edited December 20, 2006 by ThePropers Quote Link to comment
+purdue1014 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 WOW! Thanks for the great symbols! I have 2 questions. My first question is on step 2, but continues with the rest, through step 4. Rename what file? is the uploading to the GPS through the "my Gamin" folder?What is meant by "depending on the symbol you are using?" I guess that was a multitude of questions, but I have one other question, in the "notes" section, how do you get the cache info displayed? THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR HELP! Purdue P S This is for a 60CSX Advanced Symbol Usage Using the Bonus Symbols included in the file: The .zip file contains a Symbols - Bonus folder which currently contains a symbol for micros and some alternative symbols to the normal ones. To use these symbols: Copy the symbol to the appropriate folder (either Symbols - GPSr or Symbols - Mapsource) Rename the file to the position you want it to display in, using the format for the other files. For example, to use it in position #4 on the GPSr, it must be named "Waypoint Symbol 004.bmp". Upload it to the GPSr as noted above. Depending on the symbol you are using, you may need to edit the GARMINOTHER.txt file. To do this, simply open it in Notepad, and edit the appropriate position with a description of the symbol. For example, if you are changing position #4 to be the micro symbol, change this line: "Custom 4 ; Parking" to "Custom 4 ; Micro" b] Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted December 29, 2006 Author Share Posted December 29, 2006 (edited) WOW! Thanks for the great symbols! I have 2 questions. My first question is on step 2, but continues with the rest, through step 4. Rename what file? is the uploading to the GPS through the "my Gamin" folder?What is meant by "depending on the symbol you are using?" I guess that was a multitude of questions, but I have one other question, in the "notes" section, how do you get the cache info displayed? THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR HELP! Purdue P S This is for a 60CSX Advanced Symbol Usage Using the Bonus Symbols included in the file: The .zip file contains a Symbols - Bonus folder which currently contains a symbol for micros and some alternative symbols to the normal ones. To use these symbols: Copy the symbol to the appropriate folder (either Symbols - GPSr or Symbols - Mapsource) Rename the file to the position you want it to display in, using the format for the other files. For example, to use it in position #4 on the GPSr, it must be named "Waypoint Symbol 004.bmp". Upload it to the GPSr as noted above. Depending on the symbol you are using, you may need to edit the GARMINOTHER.txt file. To do this, simply open it in Notepad, and edit the appropriate position with a description of the symbol. For example, if you are changing position #4 to be the micro symbol, change this line: "Custom 4 ; Parking" to "Custom 4 ; Micro" b] If I am understanding you correctly, you are attempting to use one of the custom symbols. I've named them, for instance, Parking (Alternate 1).bmp which is basically a blue version of the normal (green) parking symbol that's in the file. If you want to use that one rather than the current green parking symbol that's in the file, you will need to rename it from Parking (Alternate 1).bmp to Waypoint Symbol 004.bmp. Waypoint Symbol 004.bmp is the name of the current green parking symbol, so you have to rename the blue one to take it's place. It has to be called that because the unit will not accept a name like Parking (Alternate 1).bmp The GarminOther.txt file is what GSAK uses to display a description of the symbols so they show up and can be assigned correctly. Thus if you open it up, you will see that symbol 004 is described as "Parking". For just using the alternate parking symbol, you won't need to change the GarminOther.txt file because symbol 004 is still parking. However, if you are trying to use the Micro symbol, you will have to replace one of the other symbols. So you might decide to replace the "archived" symbol with the one for micro. In this case, you would want to rename the micro symbol to Waypoint Symbol 018.bmp (the current archived symbol) and then open the GarminOther.txt and change the line that references that symbol from "Archived" to "Micro" so the changes are reflected over in GSAK and it doesn't refer to that symbol as "Archived" anymore. Keep in mind that if you are doing things such as this, the GSAK macro will not assign the micro correctly, so you will want to do the manual setup that's in the writeup (you only need to do this one time of course). I suppose if you are good with macros, you could edit the one that's included rather than doing the manual setup. I hope that helps. Edited December 29, 2006 by ThePropers Quote Link to comment
+purdue1014 Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 WOW! Thanks for the great symbols! I have 2 questions. My first question is on step 2, but continues with the rest, through step 4. Rename what file? is the uploading to the GPS through the "my Gamin" folder?What is meant by "depending on the symbol you are using?" I guess that was a multitude of questions, but I have one other question, in the "notes" section, how do you get the cache info displayed? THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR HELP! Purdue P S This is for a 60CSX Advanced Symbol Usage Using the Bonus Symbols included in the file: The .zip file contains a Symbols - Bonus folder which currently contains a symbol for micros and some alternative symbols to the normal ones. To use these symbols: Copy the symbol to the appropriate folder (either Symbols - GPSr or Symbols - Mapsource) Rename the file to the position you want it to display in, using the format for the other files. For example, to use it in position #4 on the GPSr, it must be named "Waypoint Symbol 004.bmp". Upload it to the GPSr as noted above. Depending on the symbol you are using, you may need to edit the GARMINOTHER.txt file. To do this, simply open it in Notepad, and edit the appropriate position with a description of the symbol. For example, if you are changing position #4 to be the micro symbol, change this line: "Custom 4 ; Parking" to "Custom 4 ; Micro" b] If I am understanding you correctly, you are attempting to use one of the custom symbols. I've named them, for instance, Parking (Alternate 1).bmp which is basically a blue version of the normal (green) parking symbol that's in the file. If you want to use that one rather than the current green parking symbol that's in the file, you will need to rename it from Parking (Alternate 1).bmp to Waypoint Symbol 004.bmp. Waypoint Symbol 004.bmp is the name of the current green parking symbol, so you have to rename the blue one to take it's place. It has to be called that because the unit will not accept a name like Parking (Alternate 1).bmp The GarminOther.txt file is what GSAK uses to display a description of the symbols so they show up and can be assigned correctly. Thus if you open it up, you will see that symbol 004 is described as "Parking". For just using the alternate parking symbol, you won't need to change the GarminOther.txt file because symbol 004 is still parking. However, if you are trying to use the Micro symbol, you will have to replace one of the other symbols. So you might decide to replace the "archived" symbol with the one for micro. In this case, you would want to rename the micro symbol to Waypoint Symbol 018.bmp (the current archived symbol) and then open the GarminOther.txt and change the line that references that symbol from "Archived" to "Micro" so the changes are reflected over in GSAK and it doesn't refer to that symbol as "Archived" anymore. Keep in mind that if you are doing things such as this, the GSAK macro will not assign the micro correctly, so you will want to do the manual setup that's in the writeup. I hope that helps. I think that I got that, thanks! One other question, how do you get the cache info into the "notes" section? Thanks a lot, Purdue Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted December 29, 2006 Author Share Posted December 29, 2006 I think that I got that, thanks! One other question, how do you get the cache info into the "notes" section? Thanks a lot, Purdue Did you read this? That's how I have it set up anyways... If you asking just how to get that screen, just go to Find -> Waypoints and select any waypoint. Quote Link to comment
+purdue1014 Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I think that I got that, thanks! One other question, how do you get the cache info into the "notes" section? Thanks a lot, Purdue Did you read this? That's how I have it set up anyways... If you asking just how to get that screen, just go to Find -> Waypoints and select any waypoint. Yes I did. It appears that for some Caches, the info is there, but for others, it is not. It seems that the ones that do not have the info in the "notes" section have the name there, and some of the names are truncated. Would I be correct in saying that there is no way to fix this as that is part of the official cache name? Thanks, Purdue Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 Finally. It appears the new firmware fixes the problem with the last 5 waypoints. I haven't tested it yet, but will shortly. I'll probably be adding a few more symbols then to the zip file in the next couple of days. Quote Link to comment
+Kayak Kouple Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I have completed the reference guide for setting up geocaching symbols on a Garmin 60 Series. It can be found here. Geocaching Symbols on a 60 Series I have requested that the old thread be closed because new information and updates were being buried deep inside of it. The reference guide will be much easier to compile information in and keep up to date. However, for additional reference, the old thread can be found here. Hi Propers i believe you helped me about a year ago to put custom icons in my GPS & Mapsource THANKS...I have a problem now ....I went to the garmin website & upgraded my city select V7 ...I did nothing else & I still have my custom icons in my documents / my garmin / custom waypoints...in the custom waypoints all my icons are in bmp as 001.bmp ....but since my upgrade i have lost my custom icons ....now when i download from GSAK to mapsource all i get are black boxes & no geocaching icons????? what am I doing wrong Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hi Propers i believe you helped me about a year ago to put custom icons in my GPS & Mapsource THANKS...I have a problem now ....I went to the garmin website & upgraded my city select V7 ...I did nothing else & I still have my custom icons in my documents / my garmin / custom waypoints...in the custom waypoints all my icons are in bmp as 001.bmp ....but since my upgrade i have lost my custom icons ....now when i download from GSAK to mapsource all i get are black boxes & no geocaching icons????? what am I doing wrong I think we were talking about that in another thread. Maybe the new City Select broke something. Honestly, I don't know why that is happening. I see there's a new Mapsource Beta available...maybe you could try downloading that and see if it helps. Sorry that's not much help, but since I don't have City Select, I can't really take a look at it. Maybe someone else can help out. Quote Link to comment
+Allanon Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Cache U Nuts, or any others with more GSAK macro experience/knowledge than I have...now that Garmin has supposedly fixed the issue with the other spots for custom icons, I'd like to be able to use two different icons for the Unknown Type of cache. One icon for caches that have not been 'solved' and one for those with corrected coordinates. I'm pretty sure the syntax would be something like: If $d_CacheType = "U" .and. XXX But I'm not seeing anywhere in Help what the command is for corrected coordinates or how to check for the value. Can anyone suggest a solution or point me in the right direction? Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) Have a look under "Database variables" in the GSAK help. $d_HasCorrected Boolean Waypoint has corrected coordinates $d_LatOriginal String Original Latitude (before change by corrected coordinates) $d_Latitude String Latitude in decimal degrees format Edited March 14, 2007 by Red90 Quote Link to comment
+Allanon Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I'm pretty sure I looked there...but I guess I didn't see. Thank you Red90. Quote Link to comment
+GPSlug Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Yes, I have this in my macro to change the '?' to a traditional box when it has corrected coordinates. # if the mystery was solved, make it traditional If $d_CacheType = "U" .and. $d_HasCorrected $_Symbol = "Custom 1" # Solved mystery EndIf Quote Link to comment
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